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From YouTube: CHAOSS Asia-Pacific Community Meeting 6/1/22
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A
Hi,
everyone
welcome
to
june
1st
edition
of
the
asia
pacific
community
call
I'm
elizabeth,
I'm
the
community
manager
here
at
chaos
and
not
usually
the
one
that
facilitates
these,
but
I
get
that
honor
today.
So
yay
me.
Well,
let
me
just
change
my
name
here.
So
everybody
knows
who
I
am
welcome.
Welcome
welcome.
The
minutes
are
in
the
chat.
So
if
you
want
to
add
your
name
to
the
list
of
attendees,
that
would
be
great
and
I
will
share
so
we
can
kind
of
just
go
through
this
agenda.
A
A
B
B
A
I
think
that
those
things
are
extremely
fascinating.
My
degree
is
in
organizational
behavior,
so
I
think
that's
really
super
interesting
stuff
is
when
you
bring
people
together,
how
they
interact
and
how
they
produce
work
and
collaborate
and
all
of
those
things,
because
it's
kind
of
complex-
and
I
think
that's
really
neat,
so
welcome
really
glad
to
have
you
here.
A
C
That's
actually
from
me,
so
I
was
sorry.
I
was
well
it's
okay.
I
was
talking
with
some
of
the
folks
at
grimore
lab
and
I
know
that
some
gremore
lab
hooks
have
been
built
in
for
giddy
and
we
were
just
wondering
if
these
this
repository
is-
or
this
is
still
being
used
this
this
openmetrics
code,
org.
C
Does
anyone
know
nobody
knows
kitty
republic
yeah?
Well,
my
understanding
is
that
what
what's
going
on
here
is
that
there's
getty
versions
of
some
of
the
gremore
lab
tools
that
have
been
developed-
and
I
think
yahui
may
have
been
involved
in
this
or
maybe
not,
but
somewhere
along
the
line
these
got
built
and
we
are
looking
for
an
understanding
of
their
state
of
utility
or
use
right
now,
and
if
nobody
on
this
call
knows
we
can
just
bring
this
up
next
time.
C
D
Yes
and
this
and
this
tool
is
being
used
now,
we
have
developed
some
developed
it
from
grimmer
lab
and
we
use
it
on
git
here
and
we
have
a
tutorial
in
the
repository
agreement
lab
in
this
organization.
C
Okay,
I
so
one
one
thought
that
daniel-
and
I
had
when
we
were
talking,
is
if
this
is
so,
we
created
these.
These
were
created
because
grimoire
lab
didn't
wanna
and
still
probably
doesn't
wanna
own
the
technical
debt
of
maintaining
something
that
was
created
one
time
that
might
not
be
used
again,
but
if
it's
still
being
used.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
some
of
the
utility
forget
you
was
added
through
a
pull
request
back
into
grimoire
lab,
either
as
like
a
plug-in
so
or
as
a
separate
repository
under
chaos.
C
If
it
needs
to
be
separate,
not
knowing
what
all
code
is
in
there,
if
it's
like
a
full
copy
of
percival
plus
the
giddy
stuff-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
would
know
shinkui,
but
if,
if
it
is
just
that,
maybe
the
part
that
is
giddy
can
be
added
back
in
somehow
as
a
plug-in
in
the
chaos
repo
that
was
kind
of
the
hope
or
thought.
C
Thank
you
very
much
that
that's
like
that's
the
end
of
the
question
and
thank
you
elizabeth.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
navigating
us
through
that
from
a
test
text
message.
A
All
right,
okay!
So
the
next
item
is
the
google
summer
of
code
metrics
models.
We
did
want
to
just
welcome
all
of
our
google
summer
of
code
and
outreachy
and
google
season
of
docs.
We
have
three
mentorship
programs
that
are
all
starting
at
the
same
time,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
students
participating
right
now,
which
is
awesome
so
here
is
who
we
have.
A
I
think
eleven
like
have
that
right,
one:
two:
three:
four:
five:
six:
seven:
eight:
nine
ten,
eleven
yeah
eleven
students
working
on
various
parts
of
chaos
and
with
the
various
programs.
So
congratulations
to
all
of
them.
We
also
have
I
I
don't
remember
this
happening
in
the
past,
but
maybe
it
has
we.
A
We
seem
to
have
a
fairly,
I
won't
say
large,
but
we
have
a
quite
a
few
students
who
had
applied
and
did
not
get
into
the
program
but
would
like
to
still
continue
to
contribute,
which
is
amazing,
I
think
so
good
job
for
all
of
them
as
well.
A
Thank
you
yahui
for
putting
that
list
in.
I
was.
A
Will
give
you
the
credit
instead
so
yeah?
As
you
can
see,
we
have
a
few
that
are
working
on
some
metrics
models
stuff
a
lot
of
documentation,
work
as
well.
So
congratulations
anything
to
add
on
that.
Yoy.
F
A
It
yes,
so
he's
working
with
taiwai
who
is
working
on
the
conversion
rate
metric,
as
you
can
see,
that
and
mabel
is
also
working
on
the
conversion
rate
metric
model
as
well.
A
Okay
awesome
thank
you,
yahoy
for
also
giving
support
to
mabel
as
well.
I
know
I
think
you
have
a
few
mentors
on
that
project
right,
hopefully,.
A
How
to
get
started
with
the
other
mentors?
That's
a
great
question
I
feel,
like
maybe
slack
is
a
good
is
a
good
place
to
start
coordinating
with
the
mentors
that
are
on
your
specific
project,
and
then
you
can
figure.
You
know
you
can
decide.
However,
you
want
to
coordinate
with
each
other
if
it
if
it's
asynchronously
through
you
know
just
a
private
messages
on
slack.
If
it
is
in,
you
know
real
time.
A
If
you
do
need
the
chaos
zoom
channel,
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
block
time
off
so
that
nobody,
you
know,
interrupts
you
whatever
you
need
to
support.
It
might
be.
Maybe
it's
even
email,
so
whatever
it
works.
The
best
for
your
team,
I
think
is,
is
is
a
great
way
to
go.
G
Glad
to
see
you,
everybody
goes
wild,
he
keeps
safe,
he's
safe
and
if
he
helps
I'm
glad
to
see
you
again,
yeah.
G
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
I'm
late
for
today's
meeting
and
because
I
just
from
another
meeting
and
travel
to
travel
to
my
hotel
and
access
the
meeting
a
little
bit
late.
A
Okay!
So
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
talking
about
metrics
models.
We
have
a
template
here.
Does
someone
want
to
talk
about
this?
A
little
more.
C
But
I
think
this
is
refined
following
several
discussions,
and
the
idea
is
that
the
bet
you're
basically
listing
the-
why
it
matters
and
user
stories
at
the
top.
And
then
the
metrics
in
the
model
is
an
enumeration
of
the
chaos
metrics
that
are
going
to
be
used
right
and
the
data
insights
are
kind
of
a
specification
that
are
going
to
be
of
of
what
we're
going
to
build
in
the
implementation.
So
it's
specifying
what
kinds
of
insights
we
expect.
C
But
I
don't
know
if
we've
used
this,
I
don't
think
we've
actually
used
this
template
fully
in
a
metrics
model.
Yet,
although
the
the
one
there
might
be
that
one
that
yehui
and
shank
we
built,
I
believe
where
they
came
up
with
the
three
directory
structure.
C
E
A
G
E
G
C
Yeah,
if
we
don't
have
them,
then
we're
we're
kind
of
making
it
confusing
about
what
should
be
in
an
implementation
and
what
should
be
in
a
metrics
model
and
from
my
perspective
and
I'm
curious,
what
others
think
is
it
seems
like.
Maybe
we
would
want
the
metrics
model
itself
to
serve
as
kind
of
a
guide
or
a
specification
with
a
lowercase
s
for
the
implementation
sample.
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
how
other
people
see
it.
So
I'm
curious
to
hear.
I
B
C
I
think
this
one
wouldn't
be
implemented
in
jupiter,
because
it's
not
derived
from
trace
data.
Instead,
it's
derived
from
surveys
that
different
projects
will
conduct.
Well,
I
get
I
take
that
back
for
the
event
badging.
It's
actually
just
derived
from
peer
review
from
a
peer
review
process.
A
I
would
agree
with
that.
Sorry,
my
dogs
are
still
barking.
There's
things
happening
outside
sorry,
but
I
would
agree
with
that.
Sean.
C
A
Okay,
well
I'll
work
on
adding
those
sections
in
just
as
a
first
draft,
so
we
can
have
something
to
go
on
and
we'll
go
from
there.
I
see
if
we
posted
something
in
oh
perfect.
Okay,
awesome!
A
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
this
or
shanky
young?
Any
of
you.
F
Oh
okay
match
model
reboot
structure
proposal,
so
we
could.
F
F
F
F
So
so
this
this
is
about
how
to
categorize
our
magic
module
and,
like
we
discussed
it's.
F
And
so
this
is
the
folks
error
and
fox
error.
It
means.
F
So
focus
on
errors,
it
means
how
to
select
a
magical
model
from,
and
we
also
have
our
metric
audio
on
lips
through
left
to
build
a
different
arrow.
So
we
could
have
our
own
ecosystem
magic
model
category
and
such
as
we
can
have
our
own
oex
system.
We
separate
separated
our
ecosystem
magic
model
to
three
parts
and
the
first
is
the
productivity
and
second,
is
the
robustness
and
the
last
one
is
niche.
So
we
we
can
have
our
own
ecosystem
category
category
and
you
can
have
your
own
category.
F
F
B
F
Yeah
and
in
this
three
parts
and
the
way
we
also
can
have
our
each
category,
we
can
also
have
a
software
artifactor
and.
F
Such
as,
if
we
have
productivity-
and
so
we
we
have-
we
have
our
social
and
software,
but
in
robert
nisto
we
also
have
software
artifact
and
social.
F
This
is
the
the
electrical
module
labs
only
for
category
your
virtual
module
and
the
next
part.
It
means
how
to
implement.
F
It
belongs
to,
it's
belong
to
productivity
and
we
can
add
it
in
productivity
and
for
this
simple
for
this
simple
metric
module
and
we
could
have
explain
how
to
define
it,
and
we
also
give
how
to
implement
implementation
and
implement
implementing
it.
F
So
we
can
show
a
linux
distraction
how
to
implement,
and
we
also
have
another
another
way
to
impleme
implement
it.
This
is-
and
this
is
used
about
jupiter
or
other
tool.
C
No,
I
was
just
going
to
ask
if
the
focus
areas
are
examples
or
if
they're
intended
to
be
kind
of
the
broad
umbrellas
that
we
use
going
forward.
F
This
this
is
kind
of
like
and
you
you
and
you
can
help
your
own
folks,
folks,
errors.
F
C
C
Do
we
intend
the
focus
area
so
as
a
practical
matter
are
the
focus
areas,
an
organizational
scheme
for
creating
metric
models,
the
metric
model,
libs
the
models
themselves
or
I'm
trying
to
fit
this
into
my
understanding
of
how
chaos
is
already
using
focus
areas
and
implementations
and
metrics
models?
And
yes,
it's
confusing,
but
it's
not
confusing
because
of
what
you
did
it's
confusing
because
of
all
the
things
we
have
done.
F
And
that
for
bad
budding
company
or
some
other
some
other
organization,
they
want
to
use
the
folks
error
eyes
to
know
how
how
to
use
it.
Not
so
not
just
people
or
some
other.
F
J
J
Aspect
to
restructure
our
matrix
model
because,
as
as
you
can
see
in
the
right
parts,
we
have
matrix
model
libraries
of
because
we
can
call
it
leaps
all
the
matrix
would
label
here
could
store
here
and
the
structure
is
showing
with
the
community
activity.
We
have
definition
and
definition
is
exactly
the
same
as
a
matrix
model
template
you
just
showed
earlier,
and
we
have
implementation
and
implementation.
We
have
multiple
possible
ways
to
implement.
J
For
example,
we
have
linux
distributions
from
using
that
real
real
world
railway
data,
and
also
we
may
provide
some
other
real
world
community
data,
so
they
can
have
multiple
implementation
proposals.
J
So,
in
the
left
part,
we
can
pick
up
some
of
these
some
of
this
matrix
model
into
this
categories
from
differently,
for
example,
from
from
the
ecosystem
point
of
view,
we
can
pick
up
some
matrix
model
into
this
ecosystem
and
if
we
have
some
other
way
to
define
the
whole
structures,
we
can
pick
up
the
matrix
model
from
the
sleeps
okay.
So
you
can
you?
Can
you
can
see
that
the
picture
are
shown
here
below
so
for
the
two
two
different
focus
areas
they
may
share?
J
The
same
metric
model,
that's
what
I
see
yeah
and
if
you
click
the
next
slide,
you
would
find
that
how
to
a
how
to
show
that
next
next
next
slide
space
yeah
yeah
here.
J
This
is
how
to
define
the
this
echo
system
with
a
markdown
file,
as
you
can
see
that
and,
for
example,
in
robustness,
we
have
several
several
matrix
models
here
and
we
just
linked
with
github
links
from
the
matrix
model,
dips
and.
G
C
I
think
I
think
we
will
have
to
take
some
time
in
the
community
meeting
to
explain
this
to
the
community
or
perhaps
in
the
at
least,
explain
it
to
kevin,
because
kevin's
been
charging
down
the
road
of
trying
to
clarify
what
we
mean
by
focus
areas.
So
why
don't
you
just
put
an
action
item
for
me
elizabeth
to
talk
to
kevin
about
this
and
help
him
understand
where
the
group
is
coming
from.
J
C
C
J
Yeah,
we
have
discussed
a
lot
with
with
trenji
jing
and
leon
last
week
and
we
we
hope
to
give
us
a
proposal
to
to
structure
the
whole
matrix
model.
A
A
So
the
next
item
it
looks
like
new
models
in
development.
C
Yeah
we
can
jump.
We
can
I'm
not
aware
of
any
new
models
that
are
in
development.
Are
there
that
other
than
the
ones
we've
already
discussed?
J
No
not
not
today,
maybe
we
do
have
some
matrix
model,
different
implementation,
but.
J
Made
it
ready
yet
actually,
because
we
already
have-
we
already
have
defined
a
lot
of
matrix
model
in
our
google
docs.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
that
we,
I
we
try
to
add
more
implementations,
for
this
existed
matrix
models
like
we've
already
done,
for
funding
for
community
activities
and
for
the
for
the
project
safety.
We
we
try.
We
are
trying
to
to
add
all
the
implementations
for
those
metrics
models.
Actually.
C
Yeah,
so
all
I'm
all
I
wanted
to
do
is
provide
an
update
that
I've
gone
through
and
figured
out
how
to
convert
the
community,
welcoming
this
metrics
model
into
the
format
that
we've
agreed
to
with
data
focus.
I
guess
I
guess
go
to
implementations
in
here.
Elizabeth
okay,.
C
No,
no,
this
is
good
and
then
click
community
welcoming
this.
So
I've
created
the
the
data
folder
and
I
need
to
create
again
the
algorithms
folder
and
the
insights
folder.
C
J
A
C
Be
so
I'm
the
template,
I
go
if
you
look
and
go
back
to
implementations
and
click
community
activity,
so
community
activity
has
effectively
implemented
the
the
templated
structure,
with
three
folders
for
three
distinct
things.
I
don't
know.
If
you
go
back
to
implementations,
I
think
that
readme
maybe
gives
us
scroll
down
yeah,
so
this
kind
of
explains
it
yeah.
This
explains
it
pretty
well
actually,.
C
A
Yeah,
okay,
like
where
is
the
template
for
that
model?
Go
I.
J
Think
I
think
a2
should
be
the
definition
part
when
we
define
this
matrix
model
and
they
may
be
a
start
with
this
matrix
model
template.
But
if
we
define
this
matrix
model
there
yeah.
A
C
Okay,
yes,
I
see
so
then
the
revised
structure
yahui.
Would
I
now
I'm
following
even
better
on.
C
A
All
right,
okay,
things
make
sense
to
me
now:
okay,
it
all
comes
together.
All
right
did
you
want
to
talk
anymore
about
that
sean?
No.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
10
minutes
left
and
matt
has
one
final
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
a
branding
question.
Do
we
want
to
brand?
I
I'm
assuming.
This
is
what
this
means
do
we
want
to
have
a
specific
brand
around
chaos,
asia,
pacific
as
its
community,
because
we're
kind
of
starting
to
see
pockets
of
community
growth,
and
so
you
know
you,
you
all
have
your
own
tools
that
you're
using
your
own.
You
know
podcast.
All
of
that.
A
J
Yeah,
I
think
I
think,
that's
a
good
question
because
I'm
thinking
of
the,
for
example,
ubuntu-
that's
a
big
big
linux
distribution
community
and
they
start
from
the
like
20
years
ago
and
with
its
growth.
Many
many
people
from
different
countries,
and
they
would
like
to
make
this
ubuntu
like
a
localization,
more
friendly.
E
J
J
We
would
like
to
get
more
connections
with
the
people
in
china
and
in
some
other
countries
like
india,
friends,
friends
from
india
and
japan,
so
so
give
us
a
little
bit
time
and
we're
trying
to
cut
out
everything,
because
in
in
after
after,
like
june
july
or
august,
we're
gonna
have
our
chaos
summit
in
china
this
year.
So
I
I
think,
that's
a
good
chance
to
talk,
talk
this
topic
with
more
people
to
to
to
get
more
thinkings
and
ideas
from
those
guys
and
also
many
times.
G
G
A
Yeah
yeah
I'm
happy
to
take
whatever
information
and
spread
that
spread
the
word
for
sure.
Do
we
have
a
link
yet
or
any
kind
of
event
registration.
Any
of
that
is
set
up
yet.
G
We
can
we
can
talk
about
the
cities,
the
location
and
some
topic,
for
example,
if
you
research
and
share
and
the
tranquil
spirit
and
the
match,
if
you
want
to
share,
you,
can
make
a
video
and
we
can
broadcast
it
on
the
on
the
summit
first
and
the
yeah
and
the
jung
jr.
A
So
yeah,
whenever
you're
ready
to
have
us
share
details
out
just
let
me
know
not
a
problem
at
all
happy
to
do
that.
G
You
know
the
first
meet
up,
we
hold
held
in
shanghai
and
second,
we
held
it
in
beijing
and
you
know
the
shanghai
is
knocked
down
now,
but
I
think
it's
reopened
very
soon
and
maybe
the
third
time
we
can
hold
it
in.
G
E
E
F
We
and
we
opened
skills
china
weekly
meeting
last
year,
but
but
this
year,
why?
We
don't
have
why
we
don't
have
a
weekly
meeting
in
china.
J
Because
we
have
a
lot
of
friends
who
supports
who
support
this
weekly
meeting
is
in
shanghai.
All
those
guys
are
locked
down
in
this
city
yeah,
it's
too
long
time
for
for
these
friends
to
to
continue
this
work
during
the
you
know,
such
situation,
but
I
hope,
after
shanghai
recovered
from
coverage,
everything
will
be
soon
covered
and
recovered
and,
like
this
weekly
meeting,
we
can
hold
it
later.
A
Our
other,
so
is
shanghai.
Sorry,
I
should
know
this,
but
I
don't
is:
is
shanghai's
the
the
only
one,
that's
locked
down
right
now
or
are
there
other
cities
that
are
still.
J
Yeah,
actually,
today
it's
a
fourth
day
shanghai
is
reopened
after
70
days.
Oh.
J
So
so
shanghai
people
offerings
in
shanghai
still
need
some
time
to
recover
for
this
long
long,
long
long
time,
lockdown.
A
H
G
Yeah,
you
know
the
jungkook
is
in
chengdu
and
kenji
is
in
beijing
yeah.
So
we
have
a
diversity
people
in
china,
and
so
we
can
play
it
and
we
can
repair
it
more
easily.
G
Then
that's
the
two
times.
That's
the
two
times
the
meet
up
yeah
because,
for
example,
first
time
we
start,
we
start
our
meetup
in
shanghai.
Because
of
the
xiaoya
is
in
shanghai.
She
can
she
can
help
prepare
the
meetup
yeah.
So
we
we
are
now
have
more
and
more
people
in
different
locations,
different
city
in
china.
I
think
it's
more
easier
than
before.
Yeah.
C
Yeah,
it's
yeah.
G
F
C
E
J
C
C
A
So
maybe
if
there
is
participation
from
speakers
outside
of
china,
it
will
be
virtual
yeah.
A
Pre-Recorded
something
like
that,
but
we
can
sort
all
of
that
out
because
we're
out
of
time
no
thanks,
everybody
for.