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From YouTube: CHAOSS Common Working Group September 1, 2022
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B
B
B
Okay,
so,
let's
run
through,
let's
run
through
the
agenda,
looks
like
somebody
added
the
the
meeting.
Attendee
count
as
a
new
metric
in
the
metrics
model
group
that.
C
Was
me
cool,
and
that
was
on
the
agenda
from
last
time
too
I
think,
and
it's
also
come
up
at
the
metrics
models
group
as
it
says.
So,
if
we
want
to
take
time
to
look
through
it
awesome,
if
not
that's
cool
too
okay.
B
Let's,
let's
come
back
to
that,
because
I
think
some
of
these
others
we
have
PRS
and
those
should
be
really
pretty
easy
to
close
out.
So,
let's,
let's
close
out
on
a
couple
of
them
that
we
can
and
then
and
then
come
back
to
it.
That's
all
right!
B
Okay
prior
conversation,
so
so,
when
you,
when
you
did
this,
did
you
just
look
at
what
was
different
and
then
make
those
changes?
I'm
just
curious,
like
the
process
you
used,
I.
B
Okay,
cool,
okay;
let's
just
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
just
go
ahead
and
merge
that
one.
A
B
A
B
Yeah,
okay
types
of
contributions,
I
think
that
might
have
been
the
other.
No
those
clones.
That
was
the
other
other
pull
requests.
It
was
who
was
working
on,
but.
D
Not
me
no
types
of
contributions
is
me
clones
and
Technical
forces
for
that.
D
I
took
a
peek
in
GitHub,
there
are
no
new
names.
The
we
were
waiting
on
the
finalizing
the
con
contributors
list
here
so
that
there
were
no
no
names
on
the
in
GitHub.
That.
D
So
it
was
actually
it
was
just
me
there
and
Riddick.
Was
there
as
well,
but
Riddick
wasn't
I.
Think
ridic
was
there
because
of
the
the
GitHub
kind
of
file,
folder
structure
thing
we
did
a
year
or
so
ago,
so
I
don't
think
he
actually
contributed
on
the
the
metric.
Okay,
so
I
didn't
add
him
so
I
suppose
we
could
ask.
We
could
ask
on
the
slack
Channel
if
anyone
wants
to
be
added
or
removed,
but
I
don't
know,
I
mean
I.
D
B
Yeah
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
want
to
ask
on
slack
and
see
if
anybody
steps
up
before
you
issue
the
pr.
That's
that's
cool.
If
you
want
to
just
issue
the
pr
and
then
anybody
who
wants
to
add
themselves
later,
we
can,
we
can
add
them.
B
Cool,
so
the
organizational
diversity
one
is
almost
ready
to
go
Sean.
Do
you
have
any
organizational
diversity
visualizations
from
auger
that
you
want
to
provide.
F
Yeah
I
I
saw
that
request
and
the
short,
the
short
answer
is
what
we
don't
have
is
really
good
data
on
on
organizational
membership,
because
we
don't
have
that.
You
know
we
I
don't
have
a
good
reference
absent
a
company
who
is
maintaining
that
data,
okay
and
I
I,
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
what
you
all
do
for
maintaining
it
like
I
know,
there's
that
cncf
email
list,
but
my
impression
is
that
most
companies
actually
spend
some
effort.
Maintaining
that
data
themselves
am
I,
am
I
right
about
that
Don
or.
B
Yeah
yeah,
it's
it's
a
pain.
B
B
Did
have
it,
but
that's
not!
Oh
here,
here's
the
visualization
that
was
a
link
to
a
live
dashboard.
F
Oh,
that's
the
I
mean
we
I
mean.
Does
this?
Do
you
know
if
they're
so
I,
I'm
kind
of
anal
retentive
about
data?
Do
you
know
if
they're
just
skipping
people
who
don't
affiliate
or
have
they
actually
Affiliated
every
one
of
that
repo,
be
your
guests.
F
F
D
Does
Drupal
do
a
visualization
that
would
show
that
I
know
they
I
know
that
the
the
contribution
attribution
metric
that
we
looked
at,
that
we
did
a
little
while
ago
and
it
actually
came
up
in
the
EI
yesterday,
remembering
back
to
when
we
defined
that
metric,
a
big
part
of
that
was
actually
understanding,
organization,
attribution
or
organizational
attribution
as
well
is
there
is
anyone
familiar
with?
Does
Drupal
do
any
sort
of
kind
of
organizational
attribution.
F
Very
sophisticated,
if
you
haven't
been
in
those
conversations
process
for
attribution,
it's
not
just
here's
who
you
work
for
it's
you
know.
Are
you
doing
this
on
behalf
of
a
client
and
what's
the
client?
Are
you
what's
the
company
you're
doing
on
behalf
of
who
are
you
and
how
do
you
and
then
they
actually
apply
percentages
based
on
different
factors
to
each
of
those
parts
of
your
identity?
F
D
Right
so
they
might,
they
might
have
a
visualization
that
would
that
would
fit
here.
Maybe.
F
D
F
What
I
have
seen
is
they
just
do
rank
ordering
of
the
most
contributing
organizations
so
I'm
not
sure
they
actually
do
this
for
the
purpose
of
Oregon
diversity,
but
they
may.
We
could
reach
out
to
the
gentleman
whose
name
I
forget
Matthew
Tift
Matthew
tipped
is
exactly
it.
That's
a
very
rememberable
name
too.
So
that's
on
me.
B
A
B
The
other
the
other
question
I
had
for
you,
Sean,
was
in
the
references
section,
there's
just
a
kind
of
a
blank
link
to
Auger.
Just
like
the
auger
repository
is
there.
B
Find
that
okay,
that
would
be
that
would
be
helpful.
I
think
we
went
through
this
in
the
last
meeting.
Are
there
any
any
other
comments
on
this
metric,
or
is
this
good
once
we
clean
up
the
visualizations.
A
B
It
was
good
okay,
so
I
have
action
item.
B
E
A
A
A
No
I
know
it
doesn't
say
and.
A
B
A
B
Cool,
so
that
one
is
is
as
done
as
we're:
gonna
get
it
today.
B
No
worries
so
it
looks
like
the
other
PR
we
have
is
for
the
Clones.
Yes,
okay,
so
we
just.
We
just
need
to
merge
that
one.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
before
we
merge
it.
B
E
F
E
I
have
one
question
like
we
have
a
regular
release
where
we
announced
that
these
are
the
metrics
that
we
have
developed.
But
what
will
be
the
process
for
the
review
like
we
have
reviewed,
said
10
metrics
how
we
are
going
to
announce
them
or
what
will
be
the
procedure
like
this
is
just
got
mandate
directly
on
the
metric,
and
now
our
website
will
pull
the
amended
metric.
Is
there
going
to
be
any
announcement
or
any
procedure?
Have
we
thought
of
it?.
A
A
E
A
To
just
it's
just
meant
to
have
a
list
of
any
of
the
metrics
that
have
minor
changes
so
like
when
common
is
done.
Doing
the
review,
we're
just
going
to
issue
one
or
we're
just
talking
about
one
issue,
and
then
the
there
are
metrics,
for
example,
that
came
out
of
Dei
I
think
two
have
major
changes
and
those
will
have
to
go
through
the
entire,
the
entire
process,
and
they
will
just
be
announced.
B
Cleaning
up
the
notes,
a
little
bit,
okay,
contributor,
location,
I,
think
Sean.
This
is
one
that
you
had
the
action
item
to
do.
Is
there
any
progress
on
this
one.
F
First
time
because
they
don't
make
progress
on
anything,
sorry,
one
of
those
days
where
it's
like
do
I
ever
get
anything
done,
and
then
I
look
I
do,
but
not
these
things
so
contributor
location,
right,
yep,
all
right,
I'm.
Putting
that.
F
B
E
E
Just
to
review
it
I've
made
few
changes
and
other
things.
I
was
pretty
same
because
it's
a
new
metric
so
doesn't
need
much
changes
so
crawl.
It
down
I
have
my
changes,
suggestions.
E
A
E
E
B
Okay
and
then,
as
promised,
let's
go
back
to
the
meeting
attendee
count
metric,
which
we
said
we'd
come
back
to,
since
that
was
going
to
take
a
little
more
time.
I
like
how
Google
just
randomly
I'm,
literally
signed
into
my
VMware
account
right
here.
A
E
A
F
B
B
F
F
B
But
but
I
have
a
complicated
thing
where
I've
got
one
browser
window
with
a
whole
bunch
of
tabs
that
are
logged
in
as
my
personal
stuff,
like
my
personal
Gmail,
and
you
know,
calendars
and
all
kinds
of
other
stuff,
and
then
I've
got
like
the
VMware
one,
which
is
a
separate
one
like
this
one,
which
is
logged
into
my
VMware
account,
and
it
does
it
it
that
worked
beautifully
for
years.
Until,
like
you
said
two
or
three
months
ago,.
E
B
All
right
too
much
history
in
Google,
Chrome.
Okay,
does
someone
want
to
walk
through
this
I
have
not
been
involved
in
this
at
all.
C
D
Maybe
Community
activity
but
the
that
metric
or
that
model
has
like
a
lot
of
metrics
in
it.
C
Yeah
I'm,
not
I,
don't
remember,
it
was
one
that
June
and
you
have
been
working
on.
So
they
realized
that
this
was
a
metric
they
wanted
to
include,
but
didn't
exist.
So
I
said:
hey
I
will
do
it,
because
I
keep
track
for
chaos,
and
so
I
understand
why
you
would
want
to
keep
track
of
this.
So
that's
where
it
came
from.
So
it's
it's
aims.
Just
to
super
straightforward,
just
count
the
number
of
people
that
show
up
at
meetings.
C
Full
I
also
did
provide
a
little
context
around
how
many
because
I
feel
like
this
is
one
of
the
metrics
that
people
would
maybe
want
to
hit
a
ballpark
and
I.
Don't
think
you
can,
because
it's
so
context
dependent.
You
know
how
many
people
do
you
want
at
your
meeting,
so
I
did
add
a
little
blurb
in
there
about
there's
no
perfect
number
for
attendees
at
meetings.
This
really
depends
on
what
you
want
all
right.
B
B
Okay,
so
what
do
we
want
to
do
on
this
one?
Do
we
want
to
just
take
a
pause
and
spend
some
time
reading
through
it
and
then
and
then
talk
about
it?
B
B
C
B
C
I
guess
if
anybody
has
strong
feelings,
I'll
I'll
just
probably
accept
all
the
changes.
If
somebody
has
strong
feelings
about
something
that
they
don't
want
included,
let
me
know,
or
someone
wants
to
talk
about
the
changes
they're
suggesting.
E
Okay
I
was
I
was
trying
to
communicate
that.
It
also
indicates
if
the
meetings
are
and
which
meetings
are
being
attended
by
people
from
the
different
regions
like
if
some
meetings
are
only
from
us
side,
but
not
from
the
Asian
people,
so
that
that
is
what
I
was
trying
to
communicate
in
this.
B
D
E
E
C
Okay,
oh
one
thing:
I
was
looking
for
input
if
anyone
the
list
of
platforms
that
I
mentioned
sounded
a
little
U.S
Centric
to
me,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
I've
heard
of,
but
if
there
are
others
that
are
in
other
places
that
you
all
know
of
that
people
use,
we
can
add
them
here.
B
B
A
I
did
have
one
comment
if
you
go
back
up
to
where
Elizabeth
was,
but
that
point
right
there
yeah
so
I've
been
going
through
all
of
the
like
the
metrics
models
and
pei
and
I'm
going
to
put
I'll
just
put
it
in
here.
A
Let
me
just
put
it
I'm,
sorry
that
doesn't
look
great,
but
these
are
the
metrics
that
are
currently
kind
of
being
asked
to
be
developed
by
the
different
like
initiatives
you
know,
or
from
the
metrics
models
group
and
so
I,
just
I
can
remove
this
I
just
wanted
to
have
you
take
a
look
meeting.
Count
was
for
common
and
that's
done.
F
A
B
A
E
B
F
Yeah
I
think
I'm
gonna
think.
A
B
So
then
whoops
you
said:
you're
just
gonna
delete
all
this
right.
Yeah.
D
D
E
F
I
I
think
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
really
like
my
belief,
is
it
doesn't
really
matter
like
if
it
was
moving
things
around
it's
it's
like,
so
it
feels
a
little
bit
to
me
like
rearranging
deck
chairs.
D
Doesn't
matter
it's
really
who
wants
to
do
the
work
so
yeah
the
the
evolution
list
is
really
long.
So
if
we
were
to
take
another
one
a
year,
that
would
that
would
relieve
some
stress
on
Evolution
yeah
yeah.
F
I
think
and
I
think
maybe
let's
give
it
one
cycle:
let's
see
how
things
go.
I,
I
think
Armstrong's,
taking
over
coordination
for
evolution,
I'll
still
be
there
and
I
won't
have
to
coordinate
the
meeting
and
take
notes.
So
I
I
may
be
able
to
actually
jump
in
and
do
some
work
in
that
meeting.
B
Yeah
I'm
cool
with
that.
Does
anyone
want
to
pick
up
maintainer
count
and
start
working
on
it.
A
A
D
B
A
B
Okay,
I'm.
D
Sorry,
and
by
the
way,
the
the
freeze
that
we
had
discussed
before
coincides
with
the
release
date,
so
the
October
I
think
is
when
the
freeze
would
end.
B
E
Have
just
added
one
thing
time
waiting
for
reviewer
action
was
in
my
list
and
when
I
was
looking
yesterday
on
the
commons
working
sheet,
I
didn't
find
this,
and
in
the
morning
it
came
in
my
shower
that
oh
I'm
missing
some
Metric.
So.
E
F
E
F
F
E
D
E
Once
we
have
visualization,
we
need
to
create
the
pr.
So
we
have
reviewed
it
like
maybe
two
months
back.
D
D
D
E
D
If
we
were
to,
if,
if
we
were
to
match
the
other
time
ones,
then
it
would
be
time
to
reviewer
action
or
some
of
them
end
with
time
rather
than
beginning
with
time.
I
don't
know,
there's
just
there's
some
inconsistency.
That
makes
me
uncomfortable
every
time.
I
see
one
of
these
so
feel
free
to
leave
it.
The
way
it
is
but
I
will
I
will
mention
it
every
time.
So.
B
E
D
F
F
D
D
B
Okay,
what
we're
about
out
of
time
what
I
would
like
to
recommend
Kevin
is
that
maybe
you
or
somebody
else
could
go
through
the
the
list
of
metrics
with
the
kind
of
time,
duration
and
just
put
them
in
in
sort
of
a
spreadsheet
or
organize
them
in
some
way,
and
and
maybe
we
look
at
them
collectively
and
come
up
with
with
kind
of
a
schema
for
how
we,
how
we
do
this
or
sort
of
a
framework
for
how
we
think
about
the
time
metrics.
D
B
Okay,
but
I'm
thinking,
if
we
put
them,
if
we
put
them
in
kind
of
a
spreadsheet,
we
can,
we
can
categorize
them
like
this
should
be
a
duration
one.
This
should
be
whatever
and
then
re-title
them
all
in
one
place
and
have
that
way
we
can
review
them
in
the
like
in
the
main
meeting
the
weekly
meeting,
because
this
is
going
to
be
something
that
cuts
across
I
assume
all
the
yeah
I'm
just
I'm.
D
Just
saying
I
think
they're
I
think
it's
already
organized
so
I'll
just
pull
them
out
of
the
spreadsheet,
because
these
these
all
should
be
tagged
as
life
cycle.
So
I
can
just
go
to
the
spreadsheet
and
grab
all
the
life
cycle
ones,
and
then
we
can
look
at
them
and
which
ones
are
time
to
First
Response,
which
ones
are
duration
of
action,
which
ones
are
okay.
B
B
Ok,
okay,
so
oops.
This
isn't
where
we
are.
Oh,
no,
that
is
where
we
are
okay,
so
Kevin
to
look
at
titles
or
time-based.