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B
Okay,
so
welcome
to
the
july
8th
edition
of
the
chaos
common
working
group
meeting,
we
have
an
action-packed
agenda
for
today
we
have
we'll
have
a
look
at
the
open
issues
and
prs.
B
We
also
have
a
whole
bunch
of
metrics
that
are
work
in
progress,
so
we
can
see
if
we've
made
progress
on
any
of
those
and
which
ones
we
want
to
tackle.
In
this
meeting,
I've
included
the
action
items
with
the
metrics,
so
you
can
probably
do
those
as
we
need
to,
and
then
I
put
the
review
of
the
metric
spreadsheet
at
the
bottom,
because
we,
I
think
we
did
that
recently,
so
we
can
do
that
if
we
have
time
anything
else
that
we
need
to
talk
about.
B
Sorry,
nice
up
rearrange
all
my
windows,
so
I
can
see
everything
at
once.
There
we
go
okay,
so
we'll
start
with
the
review
of
open
issues
and
prs.
B
It
looks
like
we
have
two
one
is
renaming
of
the
focus
areas
and
the
fixed
metrics,
so
I
think
kevin,
because
that
has
deep
implications
on
the
website
and
potentially
breaking
existing
stuff
with
metrics.
I
I
assume
that
you
will
just
merge
this
one.
Whenever
you're,
whenever
you're
ready.
D
Yes,
yeah
and
I
I
apologize
there's
a
bit
of
a
slow
down
on
some
of
this
stuff
because
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
website,
migration-
I
am
I'm
not.
I
I'm
not
sure
I
want
to
change
things
in
two
different
places,
like
I've
kind
of
I've
kind
of
waited
in
the
hopes
that
I
can
just
make
these
changes
once
the
migration
is
through
is
done.
B
D
F
D
Well,
so
so,
pull
requests
to
mark
down
files
are
fine.
Generally
we're
just
we're
mainly
talking
about
structural
changes
on
the
the
website
and
things
that
so
so.
For
the
most
part,
like
a
edits
to
metrics
pages
or
content,
that's
fine!
It's
just
there!
There
are
very
specific.
There
are
some
things
that
require
changes
at
the
website
side,
and
this
this
would
be
one
of
them.
So.
D
Yeah,
so
the
the
actual
the
urls
on
the
website
would
actually
have
to
change
to
accommodate
this
as
well
for
our
naming
convention.
So.
B
B
B
Okay,
cool
yeah,
that
was
it
wasn't
translating
well,
and
people
didn't
understand
what
what
exchanged
meant,
and
so
we
just
clarified
that.
Okay,
so
that
that
looks
oops
that
looks
good.
B
H
Pull
request
for
the
actually
these
top
two
issues
are
related
to
that
pr
yeah,
so
these
two
will
be
resolved
once
the
pr
is
merged
after
the
migration
of
the
website.
H
B
Yeah
different
projects-
I
work
on
some
of
them-
do
that
some
of
them
don't
kubernetes
explicitly
disabled
that
because
it
was
causing
problems
with
some
workflows.
B
A
A
Not
observant
yeah
yeah,
you
have
to
link
it
explicitly
in
the
pull
request.
Like
say
this
pull
request,
there's
like
a
place
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
you
choose
a
pull
request.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
good
on
the
issues
we
don't
have.
Justin
or
georg.
B
B
Not
all
of
the
things
we
have
on
the
agenda
are
have
corresponding
issues,
I'm
noticing.
So
I
don't
see.
D
The
I
haven't
created
the
pr
yet
for
the
so
we're
we're
for
the
most
part
we're
done
with
that
metric.
We
need
to
convert
the
google
doc
into
a
markdown
and
then
once
I
did
that
I
was
going
to
create
the
the
issue
that
would
go
along
with
it.
That
would
be
the
the
review
issue.
Okay,
the
community
review
period
issue,
but
I
have
not.
I
have
not
done
that
yet,
and
I
will
I
plead.
I
plead
website
migration
on
that
as
well.
A
D
Oh
well,
I
I
do
have
it
on
my
to-do
list,
though
I
I
will
try
to
get
that
in
before
the
next
meeting.
B
Okay,
sean
language
distribution
that
has
been
piardin.
A
A
A
B
Because,
ideally,
we
have
issues
associated
with
each
of
the
metrics
that
we're
working
on,
so
people
can
easily
find
the
documents
and
they
don't
have
to
dig
through
the
meeting
notes
so
so
vinod.
If
you
want
to
create
the
corresponding
issue
with
just
the
link
to
the
of
the
doc
for
clones,
that
would
be
helpful.
Yeah.
D
How
to
do
that
thanks?
If
we,
if
we
have
so
not
all
of
the
working
groups,
use
that
method,
but
so,
if
there
is
already
an
issue
associated
with
the
the
metric,
you
could
just
add
the
review
tag
to
that
existing
issue.
F
But
it
the
clones,
I
don't
think
we
have
even
any
review
tag
or
anything
like.
B
Okay,
we
got
sidetracked
from
the
issues.
Are
there
any
other
issues
that
anyone
wants
to
talk
about.
B
B
This
is
where
I
wish
we
had
some
of
the
bots
that
some
of
my
other
projects
have
there's
there's
one
that
a
do
not
merge
a
label
that
gets
added,
you
can
add,
you
can
use
the
bots
to
add,
and
then
you
can't
merge
it
until
you
remove
that,
which
is
super
helpful
when
you
have
as
many
maintainers
on
projects
as
we,
we
do
so
things,
don't
accidentally
get
merged.
B
A
number
of
work
in
progress
metrics,
so
sean
was
gonna,
bring
this
one
back
time
waiting
for
some
interaction.
I
think
that
was
the
one
you
would.
B
So
I'll
just
leave
that
action
item
and
then
collaboration
platforms
that
one
just
needs
to
be
pr.
What's
the
status
on
event.
D
If
you
want,
I
can
take
that
because
I'm
working
on
in
dei
I'm
working
on
event,
location
inclusivity
and,
I
think
they're
related.
I
could
probably
write
them
together.
B
Cool
yeah,
it
looks
like
there
was
a
fair
bit
of
feedback
and
it
still
needs
some
work.
So
we'll
give
kevin
the
action.
B
D
B
Let's
see
talked
about
that
one
bots
matt,
have
you
done
any
work
on
that?
Okay,
so
we've
got
bots
language
distribution
is
just
needs
to
be
pr,
and
then
we
have.
We
have
clones.
B
F
B
Okay,
do
we
want
to
anybody,
have
a
preference,
whether
we
start
with
clones
or
whether
we
start
with
bots,
maybe
we'll
try
to
spend
how
much
time
do
we
have
left?
Maybe
10
minutes
on
each
of
them
15
minutes
something
like
that.
B
D
So
I
don't
believe
intention
is
attached
to
either
of
these.
Yes,
it's
one
of
the
issues
we
had
with
technical
fork
was
that
intention
intention
kept
on
being
put
into
the
definition.
D
However,
we
don't
really
know
the
intention
for
forks
or
clones.
I
do
I
do
think
these
two
metrics
they
both
need
to
exist.
Perhaps
we
should
revisit
the
technical
one,
real,
quick
just
to
peek
at
the
language.
F
A
J
A
A
F
A
Well,
a
clone
is
just
like.
If
I
get
clone
a
repo
that
I
may
not,
I
may
just
be
using
it
or
testing
it
out
or
experimenting
with
it,
but
if
I
don't
create
my
own
fork
or
branch,
if
I
have
I
mean
probably
fork,
then
I
won't
be
able
to
modify
it
so,
theoretically,
yes,
if
someone's
created
a
fork,
you
can
assume
they've
made
a
clone
of
it
because
you
know
why
else
would
you
make
a
fork.
F
Yep
that
that
is
like
that's
where
the
this
issue
is
like.
If
you
go
back
to
the
issue,
this
discussion
is
clone
is
used
as
a
fork
is
used.
They
both.
F
D
Like
people
use
the
they
use
the
language
interchangeably
right,
so
they're,
yes,
forks
and
clones
and
copies,
and
things
like
that,
the
the
language
is
kind
of
imprecise.
D
However,
a
clone
is
a
specific
thing
that
we
can
measure
on
github,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
measurable
on
other
platforms,
but
it
is
a
different,
measurable
thing
from
a
fork
right.
We
can.
We
can
measure
them
separately.
B
And
getting
back
to
what
sean
said
you,
you
can
create
a
fork
without
cloning.
It.
A
B
A
A
B
A
F
So
that
is
where
I'm
still
confused
do
we
need
a
separate
metric
as
a
fourth
and
a
clone.
I
A
B
F
Okay,
so
maybe
like
a
distinction
or
a
definition,
is
what
I'm
trying
to
get
out
of
this
discussion
is
like.
How
do
I
different
so
in
my
mind,
they
both
are
confusing
to
me,
like
they
are
used
being
used
as
interchangeably
in
a
different
scenarios
in
a
different
context.
How
do
I
distinguish
these?
Two
things
like
clone
is
a
copy
fork
is
also
a
copy.
A
You
know
if
I
intend
to
just
use
something
or
explore
it.
I
probably
am
only
cloning
it
if
I
possibly
intend
to
make
modifications.
I
probably
forget.
A
So
there
are,
there
are
use
cases
where
people
make
a
fork
before
they
experiment
with
something
you
know.
In
my
experience,
clone
is
the
closest
equivalent
to
a
download
that
github
offers
and
download
is
one
of
those
metrics
that
people
use
as
a
I
don't
know,
proxy's
probably
the
wrong
word,
but
it's
sort
of
a
proxy
for
just
straight
up
usage,
but
different
people
operate
differently.
D
Maybe
they're
always
making
interpretations
of
what
that
clone
number
means,
maybe,
rather
than
using
the
copy
language
that
we
use
for
technical
fork,
we
use
the
the
download
language
and
we
and
we-
and
we
do
talk
about
it
as
a
proxy
for
for
usage.
However,
we
can
we
can.
We
can
be
clear
that
clones
and
forks
may
be
related
to
each
other
in
the.
B
I'm
taking
a
shot
at
simplifying
the
question
a
little
bit.
B
F
F
F
Yeah,
it's
too
different,
like
mickey,
has
mentioned
in
her
dog
article
that
github
github
has
used
this
fork
as
a
part
of
a
copy
or
a
clone,
but
clone
is
you
download
it
on
your
local
machine.
B
H
A
J
B
Perfect
anything
else
we
want
to
talk
about
on
on
this
metric,
or
do
we
want
to
just
get
the
action
item
to
come
back.
D
D
And
and
try
to
remove
intention
from
it
yep,
because
we
don't,
we
don't
really
know
intention
you
can
provide.
You
can
provide
some
use
case
in
the
objectives.
F
F
B
B
B
So
bots
matt
do
you
want
me
to
stop
sharing
so
that
you
can
share
and
kind
of
walk
us
through.
G
Okay,
all
right,
so
this
is
now
bot
activity
for
a
while.
This
was
the
ratio
of
bot
activity
to
human
activity,
and
I
couldn't
really
figure
out
why
we
would
want
that.
So
I
just
I
just
went
to
bot
activity,
because
at
that
point
you
could
create
a
ratio
with
it.
You
could
do
whatever
you
want
with
it.
So
I
don't
know
what
bots
and
happiness
is.
B
G
So
really,
you
know
I've
just
been
trying
to
go
through
thinking,
pretty
simply
just
what
what
we
would
care
about
with
bots.
So
as
listed
in
the
objectives
there,
we
have
the
visualization.
G
A
G
D
So
so
this
was,
I
I'm,
I'm
remembering
an
issue
we
had
in
this
discussion
last
time,
so
for
it
to
be
a
bot,
does
it
have
to
be
a
user,
or
could
it
just
be
a
piece
of
automated
software?
D
F
Bot
but
bot
gets
a
status
up
as
a
separate
entity
on
these
platforms
like
they
have.
A
user
is
kind
of
a
status,
but
they
are
driven
by
a
piece
of
the
software
or
a
code
which
is
ultimately
written
by
human.
But
like.
D
Question
is
for
it
to
be
a
bot.
Does
it
have
to
have
a
user
identity
yeah?
You
can't
do
anything
on
github
without
a
user.
Yes,
you
can't
automate.
You
can't
automate
processes
without
without
connecting
it
to
a
user.
A
H
B
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
I
think,
like
github
actions
could
be
an
example
of
a
bot.
It's
essentially
something
that
happens
automatically
when
something
else
happens
or
something
that
happens
automatically
on
a
schedule.
So
no
person
has
to
touch
the
the
repository
on
its
platform.
It's
just
something
that
happens
automatically
like
it's
automated,
there's,
no
human
that
pushes
a
button
that
makes
the
bot
do
its
thing.
I
Would
we
also
include
things
like
our
calendar
integration
slack,
for
instance,
like
that's,
a
bot,
that's
giving
us
what
events
are
happening
today,
but
there's?
No,
it
doesn't
have
its
own
user.
I
don't
believe
it
on
the
gita
platform.
It's
it's
on
slack!
So
are
we?
Are
we
making
this
just
on
github,
or
is
this
going
to
be
for
all
of
the
activity
in
a
in
a
project.
A
Those
are,
the
slack
ones,
are
specifically
targeted
at
communication,
so
they're
letting
the
bots
for
slack
are
typically
posting
messages
to
inform
you
about
something
right:
they're,
not
code
changes,
and
that
I'm
just
pointing
out
that
distinction.
I
say
yes,
be
inclusive,
but
there
is
a
slight
difference
in
the
like.
There's
a.
D
D
B
But
this
this
bit
of
it
seems
I
just
posted
it
in
the
chat
software
bots
are
used
to
support
development
activities
such
as
communication
among
software
developers
and
automation
of
repetitive
tasks.
So
are
we
talking
about
about
software
bots.
B
G
That's
where
my
mind
has
been
this
conversation
has
led
me
to
understand
that
there's
a
variety
of
or
to
think
that
there's
a
variety
of
different
thoughts.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
put
them
all
into
a
single
metric,
because
then
the
metric
might
become
a
little
too
broad.
G
I
mean
we
could
have
several
metrics.
That
would
be
say
software
development
bot
activity.
I
had
just
called
it
repository
bot
activity
and
another
could
be
communication
related.
B
D
D
And
I
think
those
would
be
the
three
primary
functions
for
for
for
bots
in
general,
like
help
help
with
sophomore
development
tasks,
help
with
communication
and
help
with
access
control.
I
There
I
linked
a
article
on
twilio's
website
listing
six
bots
to
better
your
open
source
project,
so
they
can
be
also
for
like
inclusivity.
You
know,
if
naming
things,
if
someone.
I
It's
in
the
references
six
spots
to
better
your
open
source
project,
okay,.
B
F
I
I
B
A
J
B
Okay,
we
are
about
out
of
time.
Matt
is
this?
Is
this
what
you
needed?
Do
you
want
to
take
this
and
do
some
more
work
on
it
and
bring
it
back?
What
do
you
see
is
the
next
thing.
G
Yep,
I
can
kind
of
work
on
it
a
little
bit.
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
edits,
though
they
don't
require
me
to
additionally
edit
okay,
you
know
so
I
mean.
Maybe
we
can
I'll
take
a
look
at
it,
but
accept
the
things,
but
maybe
next
time
we
could
look
to
close
this
out
a
berry.
B
Okay,
so
I'll
just
update
it
that
you're
gonna
clean
it
up
to
finalize
in
the
next
meeting,
okay
cool
anything
else
that
we
haven't
talked
about
that
we
should
talk
about.