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A
A
A
Cool
okay,
I
think
I
missed
the
last
meeting.
Does
somebody
else
want
to
go
through
the
action
items
from
from
the
last
meeting?
Since
I
don't
really
have
the
context?
C
D
There
is
to
work
in,
but
there
were.
I
think
there
were
three
metrics
that
we
were
kind
of
moving
forward.
I
think
there
were
action
items
around
those
three
metrics.
D
A
And
then
the
issues
this
the
release,
metrics
one-
is
just
sort
of
an
ongoing
one.
So
it's
probably
nothing
to
talk
about
with
that
one
event:
locations
matt.
Is
there
anything
we
want
to
talk
about
on
the
locations?
No.
C
C
A
And
then
I
think
we
talked
about
this
one
before
standardizing
the
working
groups
repository
structure.
So
I
think
this
isn't
all
of
the
working
groups
I'll
fix
that
typo.
A
A
D
A
A
Okay,
that's
at
the
top
at
the
top
of
the
list.
Any
are
there
any
other
questions
or
things
we
need
to
talk
about
on
the.
C
Spreadsheet
the
only
one
was
I
was
when
I
was
looking
at
the
spreadsheet
ahead.
We
had
row
18.
C
A
All
yeah,
so
so
the
proposal
was
just
to
scrap
that
as
a
yeah
really.
B
A
Deleting
okay,
it's
like
giving
a
fair
warning.
I
like
to
delete
stuff
anything
else
on
this.
C
Okay,
so
well
yeah
one
more
thing:
you
can
see
rows,
23
and
24.,
so
we
had
that
had
obviously
come
from
our
discussion
on
technical
forks.
So
just
as
two
more
that
that
may
come
out
just
because
forks
and
clones
as
being
different
things,
we
might
want
to
think
about.
E
Line
34
there's
one,
I
see
33
and
34
very
similar.
I
don't
know,
is
there
any
particular
difference
in
them.
C
D
So
if
33
is
just
the
review
time,
wouldn't
it
be
more,
is
it
the
same
thing
as
time
to
close
or
time
to
merge.
D
D
A
All
right,
listen
to
me.
Okay,
did
we
want
to
look
at
it.
D
No
I'm
I
was
I
I
know
I
questioned
this
one
prior
and
I
know
that
the
explanations
that
I
was
ultimately
given
addressed
those
issues,
the
issues
that
I
had,
so
I
don't
need
to
look
at
it.
I
just
I
don't
remember
what
it
was,
but
I
can
look
at
it
on
my
own.
Okay.
A
A
A
D
A
A
So
we're
not
actually
working
on
it.
Do
we
do
we
think
that
that
is
a
filter
on
on
time?
To
close,
I
I
suspect
that
it
is.
I.
D
If
we
were,
if
we
were
working
with
just
github
data,
I
would
say
definitely
so
the
the
way
github
works.
I
think
I
think
that
you
could
consider
that
a
a
filter
pretty.
A
A
C
A
C
C
C
C
So
in
column
d.
A
Oh,
no,
I
think
the
github
the
github
link
is
is
useful
because
when
we
have
things
like
this,
where
we
decide
that
another
method
is
a
subset,
it
makes
it
easier
to
get
to
it.
E
G
A
Okay,
so
let's
add
that
as
an
action
item-
okay
and
then
you
said
that
last
time
we
worked
on
space,
collat
was
it
collaboration
platforms?
Is
that
the
one
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
again.
D
I
did
initially,
however,
it
has
kind
of
been
given
to
the
group
at
this
point.
Okay,
so.
A
Does
does
somebody
want
to
drive
my
drive
this
discussion
since
I
I'm
reluctant
to
do
it
because
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
last
discussion,
so
it
might
be
better
for
one
of
you
to
drive
this
part
of
it.
G
B
F
Sorry
before
you
can
start
to
look
at
the
content,
I
think,
like
the
baseline
is
just
capturing
the
actual
activity
itself,
the
number
of
of
transactions,
the
number
of
interactions
I
that
would
be
kind
of
my
feeling
as
to
just
as
a
base
level.
Let's
start
here
and
then
build
from
there.
F
But
I
I
do
understand
kevin's
point
of
you
know
we're
trying
to
capture
where
the
the
development
takes
place
on
what
channels,
and
so
you
know
if,
if
there's
a
lot
of
like
he
said
a
lot
of
messages
in
irc
they're,
just
like
chit
chat,
whatever
does
that?
Is
that
relevant
to
what
we're
trying
to
measure,
or
is
that
kind
of
extraneous
stuff
that
we
don't
really
care
about
in
this
metric.
A
I
actually
think
it's
kind
of
interesting
to
compare
across
the
different
collaboration
platforms.
I
mean
I.
I
agree
that
you
can't
compare
irc
messages
to
email
messages,
because
it's
just
kind
of
a
different
thing.
You
would
always
expect
if
you
have
an
active
irc
community,
you
would
expect
that
to
be
higher.
A
But
I
think
where
we
run
into
problems
with
metrics
is
where
we
try
to
do
too
many
things
in
a
single
metric,
and
so
I
tend
to
think
that
this
one
should
be
maybe
focused
on
on
basically
the
counting
of
stuff
and
then
maybe
we
need
another
metric
which
is
more
about
the
the
content
or
some
of
the
other
other
stuff
that
people
were
talking
about.
F
Which
also
ties
back
into
social
listening,
because
that
was
a
big
piece
of
that
was
tagging,
that
content
and
sorting
it
out
as
it
comes
through
and
putting
it
into
buckets,
so
that
metric
would
be
probably
one
of
those
atomic
metrics
that
we
talked
about
in
conjunction
with
that
whole
social
listening
piece
of
it
and
activity.
Actually,
I
think,
is
in
that
piece
as
well.
F
G
D
So
if
we're
just
doing
count,
we
can't
compare
it's
when
we.
When
we
look
at
the
content,
we
can
start
comparing
the
collaboration
platforms,
so
just
a
if
we,
if
we
were
to
take
this
one
and
just
turn
it
into
account
of
the
collaboration
platforms,
this
metric
becomes
very
simple,
which,
which
is
maybe
preferable,
I'm
not
sure
I
have
a
opinion
on
that.
I
don't
I
don't
know
that
it
gets.
D
D
I
don't
think
it
bothers
me
because
when
we
go
down
and
we
look
at
the
implementation
in
the
filters,
these
are
kind
of
thing.
These
are
things
that
we
are
capable
of
doing
now
and
there
are
things
that
petergia
is
actually
looking
at
currently,
so
I
mean
we
this
that
the
visualization
is
is
basically
what
we've
been
describing
in
this
in
this
metric.
So
this
is
this,
isn't
just
a
count.
D
C
Yeah,
it
is
just,
it
is
just
a
count.
You're
right,
sorry,.
C
And
from
a
common
working
group
perspective,
I
think
we
generally
err
on
the
side
of
simple
metrics
and
if
I
look
at
chat
platform
inclusivity,
if
we
just
did
a
count,
this
would
be
a
metric
that
would
work
well
with
chat
platform
inclusivity
and
to
elizabeth's
point.
If
we
just
do
count,
this
would
be
a
metric
that
would
work
well
with
social
listening.
A
We
could
do
we
could
build
on
this
metric
with
a
second
metric
that
has
some
of
the
other
stuff
that
you
were
talking
about,
though
two,
but
as
a
separate
one.
A
D
C
D
Oh
understand
where
the
community
is
collaborating
and
the
types
of
you
can
probably
get
rid
of
types
of
interactions.
B
B
E
D
A
I
have
mixed
feelings
on
that
number
of
people.
Can
you
put
that
back
for
just
a
minute,
or
maybe.
A
I
do
think
under
unit
of
collection
for
threaded
messages.
Do
we
care
about
the
sequence
of
messages
if
we're
just
counting.
D
E
A
F
I
have
a
question
about
the
title
because
we'd
love
to
rename
titles
so
to
me,
collaboration
platform
also
includes
things
like
github,
but
I
think.
C
F
E
E
E
It's
a
workable
filter,
but
I
feel
the
title
and
the
description
that
filter
is
not
matching
the
title
and
the
description,
but
it
is
a
workable
filter,
like
you
can
easily
calculate
once
you
have
the
data
and
visualize.
E
F
It's
like
a
community
management
platform,
so
you
know,
as
a
community
manager,
you
can
kind
of
go
in
and
attach
your
community
to
like
your
slack
and
all
of
that
stuff
to
orbit,
and
then
it
will
spit
out
reports
for
you
to
show
you
activity
and
it's
sort
of
similar
to
what
we're
trying
to
do,
but
it's
a
little
bit
more
narrow
as
it's
just
specifically
around
activity.
For
now.
I
believe
I
just
joined.
We
were
talking
about
it
on
the
asia
pacific
call
last
week
or
something
someone
brought
it
up.
F
A
Yeah
we
look
when
we
looked
down
in
the
asia
pacific
hall.
It's
kind
of
interesting
because
they
they
look
at
things
as
as
like
orbits
is
like
the
conceptual
model
behind
it,
and
it
was
actually
I
didn't.
I
didn't
get
access
to
it
or
look
into
it
in
a
lot
of
detail,
but
the
just
like
from
a
conceptual
model
standpoint.
It
was
pretty
interesting
yeah
they
center.
F
Around,
like
engagement
is
a
really
big
part
of
it
and
like
bringing
people
closer
to
the
center,
you
know
as
they're
out
here
floating
around
in
space,
and
then
you
come
closer
and
the
gravity
of
it
so
like
pulling
people
into
your
community
is
a
big
thing.
So
so
they
are
heavily
into
metrics.
Around
engagement.
A
A
Okay,
so
what
are
the
next
steps?
Does
somebody
want
to
go
through
and
kind
of
accept
the
the
comments
I.
A
Okay,
well
yeah.
We
could
always
end
earlier
if
we
wanted
to,
but
I
don't
wanna
so
so
we
also,
we
do
have
these
other
two
time.
Waiting
for
submitter
action
and
space
event.
Location
are
either
of
these
ready
ready
for
discussion.
Does
anybody
want
to
talk
about
them
in
our
remaining
eight
minutes?.
B
A
Okay,
so
let's
maybe
just
spend
the
next
next
couple
of
minutes.
Well,
I
can't
type
april
first.
A
That's
what
I'm
just
gonna
do.
Oh
okay,
put
them
on
the
agenda,
so
it's
kind
of
I
put
them
before
the
other
two,
the
space
I'm
just
gonna
collaboratively
yeah
for
next
time.