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CHAOSS.D&I.March.18.2020
A
So,
for
today
the
proposal
is
to
start
working
on
the
documentation,
accessibility,
because
I
know
several
people.
You
need
to
leave
at
the
bottom
of
the
hour,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
progress
we
have
made
is
discussed
with
everyone
and
I
feel
like
the
documentation,
accessibility,
which
is
linked
in
that
meeting
minutes.
So,
if
you're
in
the
meeting
minutes,
you
can
go
find
that
and.
A
A
And
for
those
of
you
who
are,
maybe
new
who've
not
been
working
with
us
on
metrics
before
the
way
this
works
is
we
are
in
a
shared
Google
Doc.
Everyone
has
100%
edit
rights
permissions
and
we
do
want
you
to
make
edits
so
go
ahead.
If
you
you're
unsure
about
something
like
a
larger
change,
feel
free
to
make
a
suggestion
which
you
can
change
in
your
edit
mode,
you
can
go
into
a
suggestion,
move.
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So
for
me
there
it
might
not
be.
We
want
to
have
this
particular
statement
here,
but
we
also
want
to
understand
that
documentation.
Accessibility,
if
we
are
conforming
to
specifications
is
one
thing
if
people
are
just
consuming
things,
but
when
you're
collaborating
and
you're
sharing
resources
that
are
meant
to
be
accessible
to
everyone,
then
it
actually
becomes
cause
for
friction
when,
when
there's
one
predominant
convention
of
going
about
documentation
that
basically
creates
you
know
a
lot
of
additional.
D
Trouble,
I,
guess
or
you
know,
additional
noise
for
people
who
do
not
consume
it
either
using
the
original
written
format
like
screen
reader,
for
instance,
or
if
they
have
visual
and
cognitive
challenges,
and
then
you
know
so
I
just
I,
don't
know
how
how
to
express
that.
But
I
know
for
a
fact
that
it's
very,
very
important
can.
E
D
E
As
there
are
there
mechanisms
that
provide
us
kind
of
a
safety
net
to
prevent
that
so
I
I
think
the
way
I
understand
what
you're
saying
is
that
if,
if
we're
aiming
towards
documentation,
accessibility,
that's
great.
However,
there
are
particular
caveat
that
may
come
with
doing
that
that
it's
not
just
a
perfect
linear.
D
E
Kind
of
identify
that
that
we
could
reference
I,
think
I'm,
fully
understanding
where
you're
going
and
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of.
Because
of
the
way
the
sentence
is
written
right
now,
it
says
without
disproportionately
creating
or
perpetuating
artificial
debts.
I
totally
agreed.
So
are
there
mechanisms
that
help
prevent
that?
Are
there
the
resources
that
that
we
could
point
to.
D
To
bear
I
think
most
people
I
asked
about
this
kind
of
thing
said:
oh,
you
know
the
the
new
criteria
for
a
cognitive,
visual
and
so
forth.
This
is
all
very
new.
You
should
wait
a
few
years
and
what
we
want
to
keep
doing
is
saying
at
this
point:
there
are
no
standard
practices
and
so
maybe
documenting
them
as
you
as
you
go
through
this
metric.
D
E
Are
the
the
objectives
below
Sallah
are
some
of
those
addressing
this
point,
so
you
had
mentioned,
for
example,
screen
readers
I
know,
that's
not
the
full
full
litany
of
things
that
you're
talking
about,
but
so,
for
example,
you
know
being
attentive
to
accessibility
with
screen
readers
and
being
attentive
to
technical
jargon
and
being
attempted
to
structural
clarity.
Do
those
help
offset
that
sentence
so.
B
D
So
so
you
know
maybe
I'm
just
you
know
looking
at
this
with
a
less
conventional
way
of
reading
this,
but
does
do
these
objective
kind
of
objectives,
kind
of
align
with
the
idea
that
a
person
would
compare
those
you
know
those
aspects
across
the
different
formats
I
mean
we
know
people
do
not
really
try
the
accessible
version
thoroughly.
I
mean
they
definitely
make
sure
that
if
they're
a
test
to
be
run-
or
you
know,
there's
at
least
some
checking
even
manual
checking
along
with
aria.
D
E
E
A
Makes
sense
to
tied
in
with
the
objective
okay
on
to
say
we
need
to
balance
the
objectives,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
also
is
the
sentence
that
comes
right
before
this.
That
sentence
that
is
suggested
there
was
my
attempt
paraphrasing
or
rewriting
that
stroked-out
sentence.
Okay,.
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It
kind
of
elaborates
that
you
know
different
formats
have
kind
of,
like
you
know,
become
the
context.
So
so,
when
there
were
different
segments,
is
certain
segments?
Is
you
need
it
adds?
You
know
it
ties
together
to
it.
Does
everybody
feel
you
know
it's?
Is
it
worth
moving
it
or
just
keeping
it
there.
D
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D
Think
I
think
the
the
disconnect
happened
when
we
went
from
traditional.
You
know
you
know
non
digital
society
where
accessibility
was
also
highlighted
in
recent
years.
It
was
it
was.
It
was
always.
There
was
always
a
person
when
you
had
a
any
access
to
service.
There
was
always
that
person
that
made
sure
that
a
person
who
has
accessibility
needs
not
navigate
towards
being.
D
You
know,
party
to
that
service,
but
when
we
go
digital,
basically
it's
self-serve,
you
know
and-
and
you
know
survival
of
the
fittest-
whoever
knows
how
to
how
to
get
around,
but
we
do
design
the
UX
to
fast-track
a
mainstream
individual
as
an
individual.
Who
knows
how
you
know
some
might
qualify
an
able
person
I,
don't
like
that
description,
but
that
and
they
know
how
to
you
know,
do
their
job
good
enough
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
navigate
whatever
service
or
resource
that
is
there
is
no,
you
know,
assistance
for
someone
with
access.
D
A
But
I
feel
like
we
already
made
some
progress.
You
know.
Sometimes
progress
feels
slow
and
we've
been
discussing
this
for
the
last
release,
so
I'm
very
happy.
We
resolve
this
issue.
Thank
you.
Everyone
who
helped
with
this
going
back
to
the
description.
Do
we
all
agree
on
the
description
now?
There's
one
question
mark
in
here:
yeah.
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E
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C
Even
we
all
know
how
extremely
painful
that
is,
but
a
lot
of
different
things
along
those
lines
and
so
I
kind
of
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
outside
of
y'all's
definition
or
not.
But
in
regards
to
the
scope
of
accessibility,
because
I
looked
at
the
definition
and
y'all
didn't
limit
it
to
physical
disabilities,
so
I
kind
of
went
for
some
of
the
other
things,
especially
those
involving
class.
C
C
Need
to
do
it
and
so
like
on
some
of
my
neighborhood
lists,
there's
a
ton
of
people
doing
calls
out
or
computer.
You
know
if
anybody
has
a
computer
that
has
the
camera
on
it,
that
they
could
donate
or
anything
along
those
lines
so
that
the
kids
can
do
their
schoolwork
because
yeah,
not
all
kids,
have
computers.
They
all
have
phones.
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A
D
So
I
thought
you
know
to
to
just
balancing
out
the
sentences.
I
thought
the
yeah.
This
order.
Kind
of
you
know
the
first
one
talks
about
documentation,
accessibility,
the
second
one
personalizes
it
I'm
our
specializes
it,
but
by
describing
how
it's
how
documentation
is
used
and
then
the
third
one
realigns
it
back
with
documentation,
accessibility,
as
you
know,
from
the
perspective
of
the
project
or
the
community
it
and
its
contributors
yeah.
It's.
D
There's
another
word
that
that
is
that
rings
more
closely
and
frame
of
reference.
So
point
of
view
is
where
you
stand.
Frame
of
reference
is
how
you,
how
your
experience
and
your
your
capacity
you
know
affects
how
how
you
do
something
so
so
you
know
to
people
who
sit
in
the
same
spot
can
experience
the
world
very,
very
different,
because
each
of
them
has
their
own
frame
of
reference.
So
so
are
you
guys
good
with
that
change?
I.
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Think
it
could
actually
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point.
Yeah
points
of
view
is
definitely
not
right,
but
I'm,
not
even
sure
you
need
to
add
frame
of
reference,
in
other
words,
I
think
you
could
actually
end
the
sentence
requiring
it
to
be
offered
in
different
formats
to
be
equally
empowering
for
these
different
users
period.
H
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D
Last
week,
on,
Wednesday
I
need
basically
was
inspired
by
that
discussion.
We
were
having
for
the
description
and
I
requested
from
github
the
you
know:
alternative
format,
documentation,
I,
have
an
issue
I'm
tracking
the
whole
thing,
and
basically
they
report
according
to
government
requirements
on
their
website
that
they
do
meet
the
you
know,
necessities,
including
providing
alternative
formats,
as
requested
by
the
users.
I
followed
every
single,
proper
step
in
the
process,
and
basically
they
responded.
Yesterday
we
do
not
offer
turn
formats,
though
so
yeah.
E
Go
ahead,
I,
don't
care
how
my
wrath
laughter,
I
care,
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
we
want
to
spend
on
it,
but
just
from
a
structural
perspective
on
the
objectives,
they
don't
all
start
the
same.
I
know
that
sounds
funny,
but
some
start
with
verbs.
Some
start
with
nouns.
Do
we
care
about
that
so,
for
example,
some
start
with
making
making
documents
of
the
last
one
blind
or
visually
impaired,
making
documentation
accessible
here
people
are
mainly
reading
text.
There's
a
making
above
as
well
yeah.
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A
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C
On
me,
it
thank
you.
I
was
thinking
one
of
the
things
we
could
change
on.
The
navigable
portion
is
I.
Think
one
standard
is
if
we
do
things
for
the
for
the
screen
reader
or
for
any
of
the
input
devices.
If
we
put
that
in
there,
that
will
I
think
there
is
a
standard
for
that
to
make
sure
that
we
cover,
but
there
is
also
I
think
the
access
of
mobile
users
as
well,
so
that
they
can
actually
still
pop
through
things
and
I.
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H
C
H
C
H
C
C
And
I
know
some
keep,
it
completely
turned
off
all
the
time,
and
so
but
they
never
block
the
individual
sites.
You
have
to
be
on
something:
that's
like
big
and
massive,
because
normally
they
don't.
You
know
that
it's
a
not
completely
true
for
China
right
now,
but
normally
China
black
balls.
You
right
and
companies
blackballed
you
and
they
kind
of
go
off
of
that
kind
of
methodology.
H
C
Because
you
know
it's
like
okay,
poor
people,
okay,
people
in
other
countries-
okay,
you
know
I
try
to
go
outside
of
the,
because
we
didn't
go
into
that.
You
know
we
didn't
sit
there
and
say
physical
disabilities
right.
We
sat
there
and
we
said
you
know
any
of
those,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
like
okay.
C
H
H
C
So
I
put
both
of
those
in
there.
You
know
I,
don't
know
on
that.
It
may
you
know
I
put
that
it
may
overlap
the
main
reason
I
put.
That
is
because
sometimes
it's
not
just
talking
about
mobile
people
with
navigable
access
and
look
global
people.
It's
not
just
navigation,
it's
also
readability
right.
So
that's
why
I
kind
of
kept
them
separate.
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H
H
Like
I,
like
I,
mean
mobile,
free,
specific,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
appropriate.
Given
you
know
that
maybe
the
only
kind
of
computer
that
people
have,
but
then
I
just
said
or
devices
other
than
laptops
and
desktops,
because
I'm
kind
of
are
getting
at
like
it's,
not
just
it's
not
assuming
that
you're
only
on
a
laptop
or
desktop
right,
I
think
that's
right
in
terms
of
being
able
to
get
through
it
a
and
then
be
able
navigate
it
once
you
get
to
it
right.
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A
A
I
C
C
Help
with
people
that
are
don't
have
money
that
are
working
primarily
off
of
mobile
I
mean
like
we
can't.
Obviously
we
can't
do
the
whole
printing
thing
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
you
know
what
I
found
honestly
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
research
on
these,
like
even
in
developing
countries,
many
people
still
have
access
to
a
cell
phone,
and
most
of
them
have
backs,
and
more
and
more
in
the
marketing
access
to
smartphones.
So
I
mean
you
know,
even
in
Africa
and.
C
H
The
thought
of
trying
to
like
say
do
a
pull
request
on
github
via
my
phone
seems
like
impossible.
Not
necess,
I've,
never
looked
at
it,
I
mean
not
necessarily
because
of
github
has
done
something
wrong,
but
because
I
can't
deal
with
a
small
screen
yeah
but
I
guess
when
you're
younger,
that's
less
to
issue.
H
A
Direct
here
as
the
facilitator
for
today,
we
are
almost
out
of
time.
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you
very
much
for
working
today
on
the
description
objectives.
I
think
we
have
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
I
propose
that
next
week
we
work
on
the
implementation
and
then
hopefully
be
done
with
this,
at
least
to
the
point
where
we
can
enter
it
into
the
release
phase
where
we
say
hey,
we
open
it
up
for
feedback
and
get
more
eyes
on
this.