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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group 3/9/22
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A
B
I
think
this
is
actually
news
to
matt
as
well.
So
sorry
there
we
go.
We
just
had
a
meeting
for
the
dei
badging
and
kefiya
and
katie,
and
I
decided
we
would
try
an
experiment
which
is
to
change
the
meetings
to
a
bi-weekly
cadence
to
offset
the
asia
pacific
call
and
also
that
would
enable
us
to
switch
to
the
chaos
zoom,
because
right
now
we're
using
a
uno
link
and
matt
won't
always
be
at
the
uno
forever.
I
don't
think
so.
B
So
we're
just
like
you
know
we're
looking
ahead
and
we
are
gonna
also
start
recording
those
meetings
and
posting
them
on
to
youtube
as
well.
So
anybody
who
misses
that
can
pop
in
and
see
what
was
up
and
then
the
other
update
we
had
was
to
just
to
clarify,
or
I
guess,
confirm,
to
everybody.
We
are
going
to
be
adding
the
event
accessibility
metric
to
the
new
or
to
the
latest
release
of
the
badging
program,
so
we're
gonna.
B
B
We
have
some
logistical
things
to
figure
out
with
matt
c
and
enoch
about
the
bot,
but
otherwise
we
that's
one
of
our
goals
is
to
add
that-
and
you
know
like
I
think
one
of
the
goals
for
the
badging
program
has
always
been
to
make
it
a
little
harder
for
someone
to
get
a
gold
badge.
So
this
is,
I
think,
gonna.
You
know
really
make
people
step
up
and
and
put
this
in
the
forefront
and
bake
bake
accessibility
in
to
their
event,
instead
of
just
adding
it
on
as
an
afterthought.
C
No
thanks
for
that.
Do
we
have
any
current
applications.
B
We
do
not.
We
are
we're
open
right
now,
I'm
going
to
reach
out
to
rachel
braun.
That
was
also
discussed
at
the
meeting
just
to
see
because
we
haven't
gotten
any
applications
from
her
in
a
while,
and
I
know
that
there
are
two
like
I'm
not
even
sure,
if
she's
still
at
the
lf,
but
she
was
one
of
our
big
applic
applicators
applicants
applicants,
that's
the
word
I
was
like
applicators
is
not
the
right
word
so
yeah,
so
we
wanna
we
wanna
ask.
C
D
E
A
Okay,
I
don't
hear
any
action
items
just
an
update,
so
that
sounds
good.
I
assume
you'll
update
that
on
the
ks
calendar.
A
I
do
have
a
couple
of.
I
have
a,
I
guess,
a
question.
Moving
on
to
google
summer
of
docs-
and
this
was
my
item
I
am
so
we
need
to
have
a
single
project.
It
appears
all
by
reading
of
google
summer
of
docs,
it's
very
different
than
google
summer
of
code.
A
In
that
you
don't
have
multiple
projects,
you
just
have
one,
and
so
I
think
I
would
ask
this
group
to
help
us
pick
the
one
that
we'll
promote
in
our
application-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
handbook,
updates
or
website
you
know.
I
don't
know
what
we
would
pick
as
a
singular
target
for
documentation
updates.
A
A
It's
just,
I
think
it's
inherently
more
ambiguous
than
if
we
pick
specific
targets.
So
with
those
thoughts
I
will
throw
it
out
there
for
discussion.
A
C
A
No,
no,
it's
it's
it's
totally.
Okay,
it
was
very,
it
was
kind
of
confusing
to
me.
Essentially
it
starts
right
around
the
same
time
and
then,
but
it
can
go
through
the
end
of
november,
like
november.
26Th
is
the
last
date
for
us
to
have
our
for
the
person
to
complete
it
and
us
to
submit
a
bill
for
reimbursement.
A
A
C
C
A
I
think
I
think
I
might
have
so
I
think
I
might
have
filled
those
in
when
I
completed
the
I
had
to
complete
a
form
to
be
a
mentor
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you
were
messaging
about
on
friday.
I
believe
that
when
I
filled
out
my
mentor
application,
I
I
completed
it
and
then
matt
approved
me
as
a
mentor
on
the
project.
A
A
A
I
realized
that,
as
I
was
playing
out
the
form,
but
we're
all
ready
to
go,
and
it
says
it's
a
may
internship
so
we'll
just
wait
to
wait
to
get
finalized
as
a
project
and
once
we
are
a
project
I
think
interns
can
reach
out
to
us
and
there's
a
one
month
period
that
they
have
approximately
and
accepted
interns
are
announced,
announced
in
late
may
so
may
20th.
So
we
have
almost
a
month
somewhere
somewhere
in
between
the
final
application
deadline
and
the
accepted
interns.
F
A
A
C
F
Yeah,
so
I
think
it's
similar
with
g
sock,
but
for
outreachy,
I'm
starting
on
march
25th
until
april
20th.
I
think
22nd
that
says
but
yeah
april
22nd
yeah.
C
F
There's
that
one
month
period,
where
you'll
have
a
bunch
of
people
show
up
to
your
project
wanting
to
contribute
who
are
all
potential
they've
gone
through
the
initial
review
process
without
reachi,
so
they're
eligible
for
being
selected
as
an
intern
and
part
of
that
month,
they're
actually
supposed
to
be
documenting
their
their
contributions
and
their
activity,
while
they're
working
in
the
project.
F
Just
I'm
also
working
on
a
outreachy
project
for
unicef
and
I've
been
leading
on
that
for
the
last
couple
of
rounds,
and
one
thing
that
I'm
always
trying
to
think
of
is
like
having
some
good
first
issues
and
things
that
can
be
quickly
repeated
by
you
know.
Sometimes
you
might
have
a
project
that
has
one
or
two
people
show
up
I've
been
in
projects
where
sometimes
you
have
10
or
15
people
show
up.
F
So
I
think
just
trying
to
map
out
if
you
can
just
what
those
good
first
issues
might
be
or
good
things
that
can
be
repeated
by
multiple
applicants
can
be.
C
C
This
is
a
period
justin
where,
like
I
mean
there
could
be
10
people
who
have
an
interest
in
participating
in
chaos.
We
haven't
made
a
selection
at
that
point,
but
they're
just
trying
to
contribute
to
the
project
to
demonstrate
interest
in
the
chaos
project,
and
we
should
have
a
way
for
them
to
contribute
other
than
just
kind
of
waiting
and
randomly
maybe
saying
things
on
slack
or
on
the
email
list.
You
know
so
these
are
identified
things.
So
these
are
the
yeah
go
ahead.
Is
that
what
you
mean
justin.
F
F
A
C
C
C
So
it's
not
just
here:
here's
the
concept
of
a
metrics
model,
but
here's
an
actual
implementation
model
of
it
as
well,
and
so
I
really
see
this
internship
as
as
being
a
way
to
one
share.
The
model
which
we
talked
about
today
in
the
asia
pacific
call
that
could
include
some
dynamic
generation
the
model
itself.
The
document
itself
will
be
dynamically
generated
from
a
database,
but
then
also
putting
that
model
into
practice
using
auger
and
the
creation
of
a
notebook.
A
C
F
Realized
so
on
march
25th,
then
the
project
will
become
visible
to
anyone
who
has
successfully
completed
the
initial
application
and
has
been
vetted
by
the
outreachy
team
as
eligible
for
internship,
but
by
default
it
won't
be
like
public.
You
have
to
have
an
account,
neither
be
a
mentor
or
be
an
accepted
applicant
to
see
the
project
profile.
F
These
were
like
the
very
first
entry
point
test
that
I
used
for
that
project
to
help
make
it
easier
because
we
had
like
10
20
people
that
showed
up
and
it
was
really
overwhelming.
So
the
first
issue
was
like
set
up
your
development
environment
for
this
project
and
post
a
screenshot
in
the
issue
to
verify
that
it's
been
done.
The
second.
C
F
C
F
And
it
was
also
cool,
because
sometimes
applicants
would
go
and
help
each
other
when
one
person
was
asking
questions
and
made
it
a
little
bit
easier
on
me
to
try
to
keep
up
with
it
all.
But
in
addition
to
those
links
I
put
in
the
chat
that
were
like
always
perpetually
open,
then
we'd
have
some
specific
issues
that
were
still
like
lower
hanging
fruit.
F
It
wasn't
quite
as
difficult,
but
they
were
more
unique,
so
they
couldn't
be
repeated
and
those
were
really
helpful
for
us
and
for
the
people
who
are
really
committed
into
the
long
term
to
work
on
those
issues
and
it
helped
us
distinguish
the
interns
that
we
we
ended
up.
Selecting
for
the
internship
that
year.
Okay,
I
think
it's
nice
to
have
a
mix
of
those
things
so
that,
in
that
initial
wave,
when
you
have
all
the
outreachy
applicants
seeing
the
projects
for
the
first
time
on
march
25th,
you
have
some
things.
F
You
can
always
direct
people
to
like
hey.
You
need
looking
to
get
started
start
here,
set
up
a
development,
development,
environment
and
post
a
screenshot
in
the
issue
and
so
on,
and
then
you
can
have
some
of
those
more
distinguished
tasks
that
are
more
unique
and
can't
be
repeated,
but
are
still
like
lower
hanging
fruit,
and
that
can
be
helpful
to
distinguish
the
different
applicants
from
each
other
and
ultimately,
who
you'll
probably
go
with
for
the
internship.
F
F
A
Are
the
sort
of
qualifying
tasks
that
that
we
have,
and
so
at
the
bottom
here
we
have
some.
That's
definition.
A
Yeah,
so
I
I
I
went
from,
I
don't
know
how
I'm.
A
C
So
so
justin,
I
think,
maybe
in
the
community
repo,
where
sean
is
right
now
one
of
the
things
we
could
do
is
create.
Maybe
a
couple
issues
that
are
things
like
to
your
point
like
install
auger,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
show
show
a
screenshot
of
your
ability
to
install
auger,
install
gremora
lab,
for
example,
and
show
us
your
ability
to
install
gremore
lab,
and
so
those
are
just
open
issues
they're,
not
necessarily
related
to
the
project
that
we
have
in
mind.
C
And
I'm
wondering
we
should
probably
just
even
label
those
issues
as
good
first
issues
and
probably
outreachy
issues
just
to
signal
to
the
students
that
these
are
two
issues
that
if
you
want
to
work
on,
you
can
work
on
whatever
you
want.
I
mean,
of
course
the
students
can.
I
would
imagine,
but
here's
a
couple
things
that
we
do
recommend.
C
A
C
A
A
Okay,
so
in
our
outreachy
app,
there
is
a
place
for
us
to
put
an
issue
that
links
to
our
outreachy
project,
and
we
had
put
this
much.
We
put
the
gsoc
idea
of
the
metric
conversion
rate
in
there,
and
so
I
was
just
moving
it
over
to
outreachy
to
make
it
more
clear
but
to
justin's
point.
This
should
not
be
open
right
now,.
C
No-
and
I
don't
think
we'll
ever
need
to
have
this
open
here,
they
will
see
this
issue
through
the
outreachy
interface.
They
will
see
this
this
this
project
through
the
outreach
interface.
So
what
we
need
here
go
to
click
on
issues
or
doesn't
mean
issues
that
are
labeled
good
first
issues,
so
then
just
click
create
new
issue
for
a
second
all.
A
C
And
then
we
don't
want
that
text
yeah,
I
don't
know
it's.
It
must
be
cached
on
my
browser
and
so
now
just
say
like
for
the
title:
it's
like
outreachy
engagement
issue,
number
one.
Okay,
number,
one:
okay
yeah!
C
C
A
Oh,
I
do
not
know
what
happened
there.
Just
I
think
I
brought
up
a
dialogue
box
by
mistake.
Somehow.
C
Okay,
so
now
this
is
so
then
we
don't
have
to
do
it
now,
but
then
we'd
have
like
outreaching
engagement
issue
number
two,
which
would
basically
just
be
install
a
grammar
lab
and
show
us
some
screenshots
you're
able
to
do
that.
You
know
we're
just
to
justin's
point
we're
just
trying
to
get
the
students
that
to
demonstrate
that
they
can
engage
with
some
of
the
technologies
in
the
project
that
they're
willing
to
take
the
time
to
go
through
that
process.
F
Yeah
and
then
I
think
you
know
also
just
adding
any
documentation
like
links,
because
what
you
can
use
those
issues
has
is
really
the
entry
point.
When
you
have
people,
I'm
gonna,
guess
you
probably
put
the
slack
as
the
community
platform
in
the
outreach
portal,
you
could
even
have
an
outreachy
channel
on
slack
and
direct
people.
C
F
And
when
they
come
in
just
having
like
hey
like
pending
a
message
like
here's,
the
places
to
start
issue,
engagement
issue
number
one
issue
number
two,
and
so
that
way
people
can
come
in
and
immediately
get
that
information
right
off.
The
bat
go
there
and
jump
in
and
if
they
have
questions
they
can
ask
in
the
issue
or
in
the
slack.
But
you
can
just
kind
of
use
the
issue
to
aggregate
all
the
documentation
getting
started
guides.
Those
kinds
of
things
too.
B
A
B
And
I
just
want
to
bring
up
that.
We
talked
about
this
yesterday
in
the
community
meeting,
but
I
know
there
are
some
on
this
call
that
couldn't
make
that
meeting.
We
did
talk
about
having
a
central
person
to
kind
of
manage
all
of
these
mentorship
programs.
B
So
that
is
something
we're
working
on
figuring
out,
because
now
that
we,
you
know
we're,
we've
got
our
hands
in
so
many
places.
It's
it's
obviously,
as
we
can
see
kind
of
confusing
to
keep
them
all
straight
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
giving
the
best
experience
we
can
for
our
newcomers
and
our.
B
C
C
C
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
at
the
moment,
but
just
because
that
the
the
support
from
the
ford
foundation
goes
for
two
years,
and
I
think
we
have
somebody
on
the
team
any
of
us
on
the
team
that
were
interested
in
doing
that.
Not
only
could
it
provide
support
for
two
years,
but
then
also
probably
document
like
how
to
think
about
managing
mentorship
programs
yeah,
as
opposed
to
like
oh,
this
is
due
in
a
week.
Let's,
let's
do
google's
summer
of
code.
What
do
you?
A
Volunteering
to
help
with
this,
that
would
be
awesome
thanks.
Thank
you
because
I
think
I
think
we
have
been
so
busy
in
the
tornado
of
doing
these
mentorship
programs
and
being
active
within
them
that
we
haven't
stepped
back
and
thought
about
it.
So
I
think
christy
your
perspective
could
be
very
helpful
for
us.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
You
yeah,
I
can
prepare
any
document.
We
can
also
talk
on
what
you
like
need
and
I
can
try
to
put
document
together
and
work
on
it
and
you
can
have
like
documentation
on
how
to
proceed
with
the
mentorships,
but
I
can
I
can
take
care
of
it.
C
And
thinking
about
how
to
through
our
own
mistakes
like
not
be
reactionary
to
mentorship
programs,
how
to
how
to
look
out
on
the
horizon,
and
maybe
even
like,
like
what
constitutes
a
new
mentorship
program
within
a
project,
would
probably
be
something
to
think
about,
like,
I
think,
sometimes
we're
just
like
oh
yeah
season
of
docs.
C
Like
sure,
let's
just
do
that,
because
it's
a
google
thing
like,
let's
just
do
it
cuz,
but
the
reality
is,
is
it
might
show
up
right
in
the
middle
of
outreachy
and
it
might
show
up
right.
You
know
and
you're,
just
like
we
just
don't
have
the
capacity
to
overlap.
Things
like
that
where
we
almost
have
like
a
timeline
of
available,
I'm
just
sort
of
less
reactionary
would
be
cool
and
it
does
seem
like
a
lot
of
these
show
up
all
at
once.
Doesn't
it.
B
Hey
christy,
something
else
that
we
was
brought
up
at
that
meeting
yesterday
by
sophia
was
that
we
don't
really
have
any
way
to
track
track
like
metrics
around
these
or
track
the
success
of
these
or
like
is
this
a
project.
You
know
that
had
an
impact
on
chaos
like
was
it
worthwhile?
B
You
know
the
the
projects
that
the
students
complete,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
like
tracking
and
and
metrics
ideas
around
the
level
of
impact
and
and
the
success
of
the
projects
as
well.
So
just
some
other
ideas
thrown
at
you
here,
sorry,
but
I
thought
sophia
did
bring
up
some
good
points
yesterday.
So
yeah.
D
A
A
So
the
last
item
is
the
dei
project
board,
which
I
think
is
something
matt
created
and
wants
us
to
show.
Justin
created
it
and
I
okay,
I
copy.
A
No,
that's
fine
for
me
anyway.
Christy!
Is
it
okay
for
you
the
size
of
the
share?
Okay,
yep,
so
justin?
If
you
just
want
to
walk
us
through
what
we
have
here,
I
can
walk.
I
mean
it
should
be
okay,
early
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
I
think
it
is.
I
think
it's.
I
think
it
is
for
anyone
who's
used
a
kanban
before,
but
for
folks
who
haven't,
it
might
be
less
obvious.
B
C
Yeah
yeah
and
the
reason
so
this
one
is
about
working
with
doing
some
interviews
to
get
a
better
idea
of
what
are
issues
around
dei
within
projects
and
right
now,
the
the
goal,
I
think
justin
you
just
made
a
comment
on
it.
The
hope
is
is
that
we
can
kind
of
coordinate
this
with
oss
eu
and
do
some
interviews
there.
F
C
That's
kind
of
on
hold
till
later,
until
oss
eu
we
have
a
series
of
metrics
ideas,
which
is
the
next
column
right
there.
I
think
really
the
the
hope.
C
C
No
problem
justin,
just
as
from
a
work
perspective
or
even
kind
of
from
my
research
perspective
that
I
feel
like
sometimes
there's
a
point
of
diminishing
returns
on
metrics,
and
I
don't
know
if
we.
C
And
occasionally
right,
a
new
metric
could
really
kind
of
write
like
when
we
do
these
interviews.
If
everybody's,
like,
oh,
my
goodness,
like
this,
is
something
that
we
need
to
measure
and
it
has
just
not
been
something
that
we
have
addressed,
maybe
rightfully
so
but
boy
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
metrics
and
I
don't
know,
that's
just
a
thought,
I'm
not
sure.
If
any
sean,
you
apparently
agree
a
little
bit,
but.
A
C
Okay,
I
mean,
and
I
I
would
suspect
that
in
most
of
our
working
groups,
we've
identified
the
big
primary
metrics
that
we
have
I'm
suspecting.
We
have.
A
B
E
B
Because
we
do
have
quite
a
backlog
of
ideas
that
I
would
hate
to
just
discard
or
not
get
to
ever,
and
I
yeah
I
mean
I
don't.
I
totally
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
also
think
that,
like
that
is
part
of
our
our
what's.
The
word
I
want
part
of
our
a
role
in
the
community
is
to
continually
be
bringing
more
ideas
to
the
table
and
not
just
rehashing
old
ideas
also.
B
So
I
would,
I
would
hate
for
us
to
like
lose
the
not
that
we
are
cutting
edge,
but
I
would
hate
for
us
to
like
lose
our.
You
know,
as
the
kind
of
trailblazers
of
like
here
are
different
ways
to
think
about
it,
just
because
we
are
so
focused
on
our
technical
debt.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
that
I,
I
hope
we
don't
totally
lose
that
peace,
because
I
think
that
that's
part
of
our
allure
and
part
of
our
interest
that
people
come
in.
F
A
So
yeah
I
I
agree,
I
I
think
it's
the
I
think.
Maybe
what
I'm
suggesting
I
think
matt
is
probably
suggesting
is
that
we
have
additional
fos
focuses
for
the
research
group
that
are
meeting
the
newcomers
where
they're
coming
to
us
now
and
those
aren't
always
new
metrics.
I
don't
think
the
creation
of
new
metrics
probably
ever
goes
away,
but
it's
perhaps
not
the
only
significant
construction
activity
that
occurs
during
the
working
group
meetings.
A
A
C
A
A
C
B
E
A
A
C
A
C
B
One
quick
thing
I
want
to
throw
out
that
was
brought
up
at
the
asia
pacific
call
this
morning
was
the
idea
of
doing
these
dynamic
creation
of
the
metrics
and
I
don't
want
to
overwhelm.
But
if
we
decide
to
go
to
that
model
for
the
metrics
models
group
like
it
might
be
too
meta
to
create
the
actual
atomic
metrics
dynamically.
B
A
D
B
A
There's
a
there's,
a
great
meme
on
the
internet,
where
it's
you
know,
say
what
you
want
about
gen
xers,
but
you
have
to
admit
our
seething.
Distrust
of
everything
was
100
correct.
C
B
A
I
think,
if
you
have
four
people
or
three
people
going
off
and
doing
these
reviews
without
having
talked
through
the
approach
together,
you
might,
we
might
not
land
on
the
same
sort
of
scope
and
ethic
of
providing
feedback.
I
think
you
and
matt,
I
think
you
and
matt
are
likely
to
because
we've
talked
about
it.
A
lot,
but
kevin
hasn't
been
in
a
lot
of
these
discussions.
C
C
Bit
old,
can
you
just
put
a
check
mark
by
it?
You
know
what
I
mean
and
then
we'd
at
least
like
elizabeth.
You
could
come
to
the
table
and
say
there
are
like
five
evolution
metrics
that
probably
feel
a
little
bit
clunky.
I
just
sometimes.
I
would
like
us
to
have
something
to
talk
against
if
we
do
meet.
A
A
F
A
A
This
actually
provides
a
little
bit
of
structure
to
the
project
that
I
would
outline
there.
A
A
We
need
a,
we
need,
a
facilitator
for
next
time.
I
may
not
be
here
next
week,
so
I
will
be
here
next
week.
I
can
facilitate
again
if
nobody
else
wants
to,
but
I
welcome
others.