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A
Button
and
I
will
also
start
the
live,
transcript
yeah
all
right,
hi,
everybody
to
the
weekly
may
11th
chaos,
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
Work
group
meeting
it's
great
to
see
everybody
new
faces
as
well
so
nice
to
have
everybody
here.
A
A
A
C
Temporary
finland,
it's
about
an
hour
and
a
half
from
helsinki,
it's
where
they
have
their
major
technological
university
in
finland,.
A
Let's
see
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen,
so
we
have
had
some
progress,
so
there's
been
some
really
great
support
from
folks
taking
a
look
at
at
the
open
pr.
So
the
biggest
thing
on
the
pull
requests
in
the
dei
working
group
is
around.
A
A
A
B
A
C
C
So
it's
the
removal
of
the
blog
posts
that
that's
just
kind
of
I
know
it
extraneous
unnecessary.
It
looks
like
that's
the.
C
A
A
A
C
I
think
in
general
the
best
approach
is
so
if
the
pull
request
is
trying
to
edit
three
metrics
at
one
time.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
it's
actually
trying
to
edit
four
documents
at
one
time?
Yeah,
I
I
mean
it's.
I
think
it
is
best
practice
for
this
kind
of
thing
to
just
do
a
pull
request
for
each
document.
You
edit
that
way.
If
yeah,
two
of
them
are
fine,
two
of
them
require
changes.
D
B
Matt,
I
want
to
say
something
yeah,
so
I
I
don't
know
ted
has
made,
but
I
think
we
can
pass
on
this
one
because
it
might
confuse
them
on
how
to
break
prs
into
so.
Okay.
B
A
B
A
A
A
The
github
issue
link
associated
with
the
original
metric
release,
so
so
this
is
a
proposal
to
link
to
the
metric
website.
I
think
we
had
actually
decided
to
keep
it
at
the
github
issue.
D
A
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
we
can
put
like
on
the
other
issues
we
can
put
in
that
you
know.
That's
you
know,
make
sure
you
send
it
one.
Pr
on
the
other
issues
then
also
explain
why
we
want
him
why
he
wanted
us
to
break
this
down.
Okay,
because
you
know
even
more
context.
So
it's
not
like
I'm
giving
you
extra
work.
A
A
That,
okay,
cool
okay,
great,
so
we're
gonna,
wait
on
that
one!
Next,
pr,
the
first
two
I've
taken
a
look
at
second
two.
I
have
not
taken
a
look
at
yet
so
this
is
like
the
first
pr
and
okay
not
solved
due
to
plug-in
rendering
revisit
the
formatting
and
the
data
collection
strategy.
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
this
one
wouldn't
be
merged.
Quite
yet.
A
D
B
A
A
A
A
A
B
But
I
think
why
maybe
white
was
there
was
maybe
we
had
thoughts
around
you
know,
network
bonds
with
when
folks
join,
I'm
trying
to
think
how
it
might
have
affected
me.
Maybe
during
the
morning
I
think
when
I
have
network
boundaries
when
it
switches
like
time
of
the
days
like
if
there
was
rainfall
or
something
okay,
but
you
know
you
can't
really
see
when
there'll
be
rainfall.
E
I
do
I
have
some
thoughts
on
this
yeah,
so
if
it
time
inclusion
for
events,
I'm
assuming
this
is
so
this.
This
would
be
the
the
network
bandwidth
refers
to
the
ability
to
either
live
stream
or
upload
the
the
video
to
a
later
date
right.
So
the
the
internet
connection
that
you
have
at
the
venue
is
going
to
affect
whether
or
not
you
can
you
can
live
stream
or
or
up
upload.
Those.
So
so
I
think
network
bandwidth
is,
is
a
consideration
for
time.
E
Inclusion
for
virtual
events
from
the
the
standpoint
of
the
the
person
putting
on
the
the
event,
and
then
it
could
also
be
a
consideration
for
people
who
are
trying
to
live
stream.
The
events,
because
we
all
know
that
internet
connectivity
is
is
different
for
for
different
people,
so
I
can
see
it
on
both
ends
as
network
bandwidth
being
a
a
factor
for
this.
A
A
E
I'm
not
sure
how
it
fits
with
implementation,
but
but
internet
connectivity
is
it's
it's
a
main
factor
in
whether
or
not
we
can
even
have
time
inclusion
for
these
events
right.
So
the
the
the
virtual
participants
ability
to
watch
the
virtual
event
and
the
events
ability
to
live
stream
it
is,
is
completely
dependent
upon
internet
con
connectivity
and
network
bandwidth,
which
we
know
can
can
vary
by
a
event
venue
and
and
by
participants.
A
D
A
E
Okay,
yeah
yeah,
maybe
just
think
about
a
different
way
to
present
it
in
the
in
the
metric,
but
kind
of
maintain,
maintain
it
in
their
skill
right.
Okay,.
E
A
C
He's
been
busy
elsewhere
as
well
yeah
exactly
I
I
mentioned
this
in
the
chat
but
I'll
just
point
out
that
sometimes
things
look
just
fine
on
the
github
markdown
and
they
end
up
not
looking
fine
when
they're
pulled
to
the
website.
I
think
I
removed
the
extra,
I
think,
removing
the
extra
spaces
that
were
there,
which
github
interpreted
just
fine,
should
fix
it
on
the
website,
but
I
don't
think
I
have
a
way
to
test
that.
E
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
afraid
you
don't
it's
a
little
little
idiosyncrasies
with
the
way
that
we
pull
get
a
mark
down
onto
the
website.
Sometimes
you
just
have
to
trial
and
error.
It.
Okay.
D
D
So
I
think,
there's
a
way
to
word
that
I
was
provided
with
adequate
low
bandwidth
options
at
the
event.
Unfortunately,
if
you're
streaming
video,
there
is
really
no
real
real
option
unless
you
allow
for
downloading.
D
So
that
might
be
a
little
hard
to
word
unless
it's
like
an
adequate
low
band
option
was
you
know
something
we
were
talking
about
for
opening
for
summit
for
some
of
the
presentations
to
have
more.
A
virtual
aspect
was
just
being
able
to
stream
the
audio
and
having
someone
watch
a
chat
room,
so
I
mean,
but
it
you're
either
video
or
your
audio.
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
there's
necessarily
a
low
bandwidth
option
other
than
going
to
audio,
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
that
into
consideration.
E
Yeah
and
I'll
I'll
flag
this
for
amy,
when
I,
when
I
do
the
work
on
it,
so
that
she
can
comment
on
it.
A
Great,
thank
you
ruth
and
thank
you
kevin
and
thank
you
amy
and
thank
you
tejas
for
doing
work.
So
I
think
at
this
point.
A
There
are
a
couple
in
here
I'll
just
I'll
go
back
through
these
pr's.
I
don't
think
we'll
necessarily
merge
them
now,
but
I
think
there's
been
some
attention
that
sean
has
given
that
kevin
will
do.
I
think
we
asked
for
something
in
one
of
the
pr's.
You
know
what
I
mean.
There
shows
us
a
little
bit
of
cleanup
work.
I
think
to
do,
and
I
think
we
can
get
these
submerged
before
the
next
meeting
good.
A
Are
we
all
right
with
this
all
right
cool?
Thank
you.
Everybody
moving
on,
I'm
gonna
not
do
issues,
so
we
did
do
the
code
of
conduct,
so
we
have
shared
this
with
the
audit
team.
Just
in
terms
of
the
changes
that
we
were
making.
A
D
A
You
know
like
making
sure
that
we
have
just
a
single
code
of
conduct
that
covers
everything,
chaos
related,
and
we
should
be
good
there
and
then
really
being
clearer
on
the
enforcement
guidelines.
This
is
one
of
the
recommendations
that
we
had
had
around.
What
are
the
kind
of
the
ways
that
code
of
conduct
violations
would
be
escalated.
A
A
D
D
D
A
B
D
Open
source
summit
north
america
that
the
linux
foundation
added
to
theirs?
Okay,
so
that
was
their
health
guidance.
That's
not
necessarily
an
addition
to
their
code
of
conduct.
D
Have
that
in
my
email,
gotcha.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
appreciate
that
just.
A
We
are
going
to
be
updating
wherever
it
was
in
here,
the
the
team,
the
code
of
contact
team.
So
I
think
we
talked
about
this
in
the
community
call
yesterday.
A
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
I
think
the
decision
was
is
that
or
at
least
the
recommendation
was
that
nicole,
armstrong
and
george
would
lead
the
efforts
to
define
a
new
group
of
folks
to
serve
as
to
where
violations
are
reported.
E
I
know
at
one
point
we
had
talked
about
having
kind
of
two
two
teams
kind
of
that
that
high
level
code
of
conduct
team
that
would
oversee
a
group
of
people
that
would
kind
of
monitor
social
media
and
and
other
places
for.
E
For
inappropriate
behavior
was
that
was
that
something
that
we
we
continued
to
have
any
discussion
on,
or
did
we
abandon
that
line
of
thought.
E
A
E
Right
and
then,
and
then
on
the
on
like
discourse,
for
example,
we
would
have
individuals
who
are-
and
I
forget
the
term
but
the
it's,
not
the
administrators,
it's
the
moderators.
E
Thank
you
thank
you,
amy
yeah,
so
then
on
those
and
then
we
would
also
have
on
those
channels
we
would
have
moderators
who
would
perform
some
function
as
well.
So
I'm
I'm
just
curious.
If
we've
had
any
discussion
about
the
relationship
between
moderators
code
of
conduct,
individuals
and
maybe
even
the
the
board
of
governors
we
haven't,
I.
E
We
have
okay,
that
that
might
be
so
when
we
start
talking
about
enforcement
and
and
actually
doing
stuff
with
the
code
of
conduct,
because
the
the
code
of
conduct
is
just
a
piece
of
paper
until
we
start
to
until
we
enforce
it
or
have
those
systems
in
place
to
enforce
it.
I
think
those
those
three
entities
and
the
the
process
that
this
occurs,
I
think,
needs
to
be
discussed.
A
Well,
I
mean
that's
fair
listening
to
you
talk
to,
I
mean
I.
I
think
it
would
be
reasonable
to
think
about
who
the
moderators
for
slack
would
be
moderators
for
and
they're,
not
they're,
just
people
who
kind
of
just
watch
the
conversation
on
a
day
to
day.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
for
discourse
as
well.
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
it's,
it's
also
important
to
have
a
little
bit
of
oversight.
So
if,
if
something
happens
with
a
moderator
there
can
be,
it
can
be
escalated
to
the
code
of
conduct
team
or
if
something
happens,
at
the
code
of
conduct
team
level,
it
could
be
escalated
to
the
board
of
governors.
E
Enforcing
the
code
of
conduct,
giving
people
temporary
bans
and
permanent
bans
without
their
ability
to
escalate
it
to
the
next
level
would
be.
C
Is
that
is
that
I
don't
know
is:
is
it
common
in
open
source
that
there's
like
appeals,
court
for
these
sorts
of
decisions,
or
do
the
do
these
decisions.
D
C
Right,
I'm
asking
about
the.
I
agree
that
there
should
be
a
the
committee
should
communicate
with
the
person
openly
and
even
offer
them
time
to
air
their
perspective.
I
think
kevin
was
suggesting
an
appeal
to
the
I
don't
you
call
it
the
board
of
governors.
I
think
it's
just
the
is
that
I
don't
know
that's
what
it's
called,
but
the
directors
board
of
directors.
But
I
sorry
that's
the
part
that
I
was
wondering.
D
E
I
see
yeah
well
so
if,
if
the
code
of
conduct
team,
for
example,
gives
someone
a
permanent
ban
right,
what
is
the?
How
would
you
defend
yourself
from
that?
And
at
that
point
it
would
be
the
only
way
to
to
defend
yourself
in
that
case,
to
to
give
your
side
of
the
story
would
be
to
escalate
it
to
the
board
of
directors
so
just
outlining
that
process.
E
If,
if
we're
going
to
enforce,
we
probably
do
have
some
need
to
have
some
ability
for
appeals
and
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
how
well
a
lot
of.
I
think
there
are
issues
kind
of
in
open
source
around
code
of
conduct
in
general,
so
I
I
think
this
is
kind
of
new
territory
for
a
lot
of
open
source
projects.
In
in
to
to
comment
on
your,
what
are
other
other
open
source
projects
doing
so
enforcement
hasn't
been.
I
don't
think
it's
been
done
well
in
a
lot
of
communities.
E
C
E
E
I
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
just
need
to
talk
about,
and
I
and
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
the
perfect
way
that
it
should
work
or
or
even
if
we
have
to
have
an
appeals
process,
but
I,
but
I
I
think,
when
we
when
we're
talking
about
what
this
code
of
conduct
team
is
going
to
look
like
and
what
the
moderators
are
going
to
look
at.
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
need
to
talk
about.
C
Yeah
the
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
the
answer.
My
first
thought
is,
I
think,
if
there
was
a
permanent
ban
of
just
knowing
the
people
in
this
community,
they
probably
wouldn't
do
that
without
checking
with
the
board
of
directors
anyway,
and
if
we
specify
it,
I
mean
the
more
that
we
specify
about
the
process,
then
the
more
complicated
we
make
it
in
all
cases.
C
So,
for
example,
like
a
permanent
ban,
I
would
I
can
see
where
that's
something
that
you'd
want
to
check
with
the
board
of
directors
on
the
other.
Three
consequences
are
temporary.
C
D
Go
go
ahead,
somebody
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
communities
have
board
of
directors.
Okay,
if
the
smaller
communities
fedora
does
send
to
us,
does
open
infrastructure
does,
but
sometimes
that
is
actually
part
of
their
code
of
conduct
that
the
chair
of
their
board
is
involved
early
on,
so
they
are
part
of
the
protocon.
You
know
the
code
of
conduct
report
they
are
actually
you
know.
The
chair
is
one
of
the
people
who
get
notified
and
they
are
involved
from
the
start.
D
I
do
like
the
idea
I
heard
you
say
if
it
is
a
permanent
ban,
that
it
is
brought
before
the
board
before
it
is
put
in
place.
D
D
So
it
all
depends
on
you
know
like
currently,
if
you
look
at
who
is
you
know
our
code
of
conduct
group,
you
know
you
have
the
chair
a
past
co-chair
and
one
other
person's
name.
I
saw,
but
I
can't
remember
who
it
was.
You
know
you've
already
got
kind
of
that
coverage
there
built
in,
but
if
you're
planning
for
the
future,
I
think
you
know
going
back
to
kind
of
what
kevin
was
saying.
If
it
is
a
permanent
band,
it
must
be
run
through
the
board.
B
A
So
justin
has
a
comment
in
here
as
well
consequence
ladder
applicable
to
forums.
This
is
a
goal
with
contributor
covenant
version
2.
A
E
No,
I
think
that
I
think
the
the
work
that's
happening
here
is
is
appropriate
and-
and
perhaps
there
are
a
couple
sentences
or
kind
of
explicit
things
that
we
can,
we
can
add
to
it
that
would
connect
to
the
discussion
we're
just
having,
but
I'm
not
completely
sure
that
that
discussion
we
were
having
needs
to
actually
be
included
in
the
in
in
in
in
a
large
way
in
this
document,
maybe
just.
E
So
really,
this
is
just
this
is
a
consideration
for
kind
of
the
the
project
governance
and
how
the
code
of
conduct
team
works
along
with
in
the
future
moderators.
So
perhaps
this
discussion
happens
elsewhere.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
part
of
the
this
particular
document.
A
E
Oh
and
amy
did
amy
did
put
in
some
text
for
the
health
and
safety.
D
Yeah
that
wasn't
actually
what
we're
adding
from
the
events
code
of
conduct
openinfra
hasn't
added
it
yet.
But
that
was
some
information
from
open
source
summit
north
america
that
was
sent
out.
So
I
had
sent
it
to
open
infra
foundation
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
an
idea
on
wording
because
right
now,
everyone's
being
very
careful
about
making
any
changes
to
what
they
had
in
their
event
for
covid
protection,
so
related,
but
different
type
of
wording.
But
once
I
do
get
that
from
open
infra,
I
will
pop
it
over
to
us.
So.
E
A
All
right,
outreachy
google
season
to
docs
those
are
coming
to
a
close,
at
least
in
terms
of
the
selection
process.
So
just
that's:
what's
going
on
there,
we
are
looking
for
more
dei
badge
reviewers,
so
ruth.
I
know
you're
part
of
those
conversations.
B
No,
that's
fine,
we're
looking
for
more
viewers,
and
I
think
I
should
have
linked
the
form
link.
There
would
have
like
a
info
session
on
may
18th,
so
yep.
You
can
share
that
and
also
the
budgeting
appreciation
event.
If
you've
not
signed
up,
please
do
sign
up
for
it.
B
The
link
is
there
the
open,
collective
link?
Oh
nice
christy
is
interested
yeah
I'll
link
the
form
there.
So
you
can
sign
up
to
be
able
to
thank
you.
Christy.
A
Great,
thank
you
ruth
thank
you
christy
and
then
just
kind
of
the
last
thing
in
this
last
three
minutes
here
it
looks
like
we're
having
pretty
good
feedback
on
the
project
badging
component,
so
just
because
of
the
success
of
event,
badging
moving
forward
with
project
badging
slowly
right.
This
is
not
something
that
would
be
open,
say
tomorrow.
So
here
I
was
trying
to
capture
things
that
had
come
up
in
the
dei
audit
team
that
have
been
coming
up
in
the
chaos
the
this
working
group
over
the
last
couple
weeks.
A
So
the
first
for
chaos
passing
so
this
would
be
kind
of
the
the
first
level
that
a
project
could
get,
and
I
think
really
the
only
level
that
we
could
consider
within
the
chaos
project
based
on
our
current
capacity
right
now.
It's
called
chaos
passing
we
could
call
it.
Chaos
recognized
gas
awarded
chaos
acknowledged.
Anything
like
names
would
be
open
at
that
point,
you
know
so
we'd,
it's
just
some
sort
of
recognition
that
we
would
provide
so
put
anything
you
want
in
there
in
terms
of
names.
A
If
you
have
ideas
the
time
frame,
that
would
be
that
an
awarded
badge
lasts
two
years.
We
have
two
cycles
within
which
projects
could
apply,
and
this
could
be
one
cycle
as
well.
We
could
make
it
a
three
month
cycle,
so
communities
could
apply
for
a
badge
in
the
months
of
september
and
october
and
again
in
the
months
of
march
and
april,
so
we
have
this
time-bounded
window
when
we
know
that
we
may
get
a
bunch
of
reviews
again.
These
are
just
these
are
just
pulling
ideas.
A
A
So
this
would
be
the
markdown
file
that
that
say,
like
the
auger
project
would
put
in
there.
You
know
kind
of
like
a
community
folder
and
says
this
is
how
the
chaos
I'm
sorry.
This
is
how
the
auger
project
is
attending
to
project
burnout.
This
is
how
the
auger
project
is
thinking
about
inclusive
leadership
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
this
then
gives
the
reviewers
providing
everyone
gets
their
own.
A
A
That's
it
and
we
we
don't
have
to
traverse
the
project.
You
know
what
I
mean,
and
this
is
also
a
document-
that's
not
only
helpful
in
review,
but
I
think
it's
nice
for
the
community
members
as
well
that
they
can
say
hey.
This
is
great.
This
is
how
this
project
is
attending
to
burnout.
This
is
how
this
project
is
attending
to
inclusive
leadership.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
it's:
it's
spelled
out
for
other
community
members
as
well,
and
then
lastly,
two
reviewers
are
assigned
to
an
application.
A
A
That's
what
I
saw
so
I
this
is
great.
I
think
this
gives
us
if
we
all
kind
of
agree
to
this,
this
at
least
gives
us
something
to
kind
of
start
building
around.
You
know
what
I
mean,
and
obviously
questions
will
come
up
as
we
start
building
this
out,
but
I'm
pretty
happy
about
this
and
pretty
excited
about
this
work.
Yeah
all
right,
we're
done
everybody!
Thank
you.
So
much
you're
all
amazing
have
a
great
wednesday
have
a
great
thursday
friday
into
the
weekend.