CHAOSS DEI Working Group, 27 Jul 2022

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There it is and transcripts somewhere.

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All right, everybody, so the.

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Are in the chat, if you could click on those and add yourself and maybe tell us something that's on your current grocery list, uh so welcome to the july 27th chaos dei uh worker meeting, um I'm gonna facilitate this week. Could we first thing? Could we find a facilitator for next week.

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Anybody like to facilitate for next week, I'm not going to be here, so I would do it, but I'm gone.

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I'm willing, but I'd certainly welcome anyone else that wants to take it.

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Oh precious says she could do it in chat. Wonderful. Thank you. Precious.

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All right so precious.

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The hardest part is, is figuring out what to put here the question to ask people.

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That is consistently the hardest part for me just so you.

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Know uh all right, so I would just like to say um the first thing on our agenda is the review of released metrics so for this round we've been asking working groups to go into this document our spreadsheet and take a look at the green rows that we have so, for example, common and evolution and risk.

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So the green rows represent metrics that have been released from the particular working group in this round this, the six months, we're really focusing on trying to um trying to just review some of those old metrics, because sometimes the metrics templates are out of date, or sometimes you just look at the things that were written six months ago or a year ago, and it makes no sense today.

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So sentences just need to be rewritten.

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So, uh thanks to what on earth did I mean precious? uh Who were both on the call? um So, as you can see here, they spent a lot of time going through and reviewing the old metrics and links are provided here to the old metrics or I'm sorry. Links are provided here to the the review that both precious and oma and myself.

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So if you take a look here, um this is a link to all of the proposed changes or kind of the proposed new updates, precious or oma. Did you have any comments on on the work that you had done over the last week.

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So if, if you do, you can speak up or just put it in the chat, that's not a problem there. um So did they were they extensive changes? I guess is the biggest question for us and so a lot of the review like if it's just changing the narrative of a sentence. You know what I mean or it's like removing a point like it doesn't really that's not a huge change for anybody, but so precious or oma for any of the metrics. Were there substantial changes that maybe we should be aware of to the.

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And if so, maybe you could just mark them, maybe in this document or put it in the chat.

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I would say that small changes that increase clarity or correct grammar or spelling and things like that those would not be- I would say those are not significant changes. I think I think, if there's changes required to maybe clarify, but also somewhat alter, what the metric is or require completely rewritten paragraphs or the deletion of paragraphs. In addition to other paragraphs or sentences like somewhere in between those two boundaries is where it becomes significant.

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If that's a helpful guide, in my opinion,.

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And I think that is helpful and the reason that um that I'm asking is because really the any minor change that sean was kind of referring to like an update of a sentence- or I don't know a small inclusion of a point for clarity, um any of those really don't changes. I highlighted new changes I added in the doc. Okay, so homa highlighted changes in the doc. um Any of those don't really need to go back out for community review. We can just issue an update.

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You know what I mean to the metric and it'll just be incorporated in the next release of the metric, but anything that requires probably a more significant reviewer. That was a major change. We really do need to put it under community review where we get kind of another set of people to take a look at it yeah. We could definitely take a look, um so we could take a look at some of omas, for example.

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So, let's see project burnout was one.

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Yeah, I just think if we looked really quick, it would yeah, we could say: oh yeah, that's minor.

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I think this would definitely qualify as a minor revision. I think that question adds clarity.

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I think it's a it's, probably a better question than how do you feel about working on this project? Actually.

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This metric does not have a contributor section in it. Should we add that.

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I mean since we're here anyway, yeah.

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Okay, I can type that in.

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Yes, this is a really good example, I think of a minor minor change that does not require a re-review process.

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Oh oma, can you give me edit privileges on this looks like I don't have edited privileges.

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Like you can only add it as a suggestion, I couldn't.

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That it was weird, oh no there it is I'm.

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Starting yeah, I said it's showing it's showing up for me. Yeah.

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No, it's not screaming. I.

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I can't click my own and.

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um Okay, so the the the question is here like to add this question: is that right, oma, when you have that highlighted.

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Okay, great okay, so maybe.

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Let's see, maybe a next step would be to.

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Somebody just kind of take a look at these metrics that just kind of a second second look from oma and precious I'm trying.

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Of like what the best order of events is here, you know what I mean so like. If we want to put this in a br, we have to like do little things like get it into markdown. You know what I mean yeah like it's, not much at all.

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I can take that as an action item to just like make them submit them in a pr. Is that what you're.

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Yeah and kind of like, um like just make like just make sure you have the tags for markdown. You know yeah. I can.

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Do that I have that uh plug-in that helps too so yeah. I can do that.

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And it's not even like re-reading the metric, because I totally accept like what precious and omaha have done. It's just kind of the final touches for the pr okay cool. Thank you, elizabeth. That's a lot!

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It's all of that.

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Okay, I don't think it will take very long. I think it's okay.

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I mean unless oma and precious want to do that, to get like that green square on their github account yeah right. Take that away.

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I don't even know what the green square is.

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On the country.

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The contribution thing, the big oh full, of dots like squirting.

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Is like yeah, what's the green square.

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It's just on your github profile.

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Like a graph of your activity and your contributions, and so some people like really take pride in you- know having as many of those little green squares as possible, other people do not care at all, so I am one that does not care at all, but some people like to track these and have like proof of you know that they're competing.

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Github used to say, you've contributed, like 12 consecutive days way to go you're on a roll, but I think they realize that might not be altogether encouraging healthy behavior, so they've stopped providing that feedback.

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Okay, precious, um so what I'll do then is? I will get all of the docs ready for the markdown and then you have to be the one to submit the pr, though, in order to get that contribution thing, I think, or maybe you could. I don't know if you can merge it in.

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If you have that permission to okay, we.

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Can we can add, we can give her those permissions.

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The only the other thing to think about on the pr is.

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Like what's the easiest way to issue the pr so that the translations repo the translations folks, can see the change because, like if we just delete the markdown and just overwrite it with a new mark down the whole diff.

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Well, I think, like the the original dock is still out there in the folders, so they'll be able to see here was the original one that was published on the site, and here is the new one that we're proposing. So they can use that diff report replace those lights, though you know.

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Yeah, I I think, yeah I think, matt's right, though, what if, for example, if you copy and paste a whole new thing it might some, it just depends on how perfectly aligned all of the spacing is, where it's exactly the same, and if it's not aligned it'll just show like the whole thing being replaced, and it is hard to read so I don't have it. I don't have a quick answer for that.

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Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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Yeah but like if precious knows, for example, that all she did was add that one question going directly into the markdown.

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If, if that's the only change- and I think it is based on what I've heard then just go in and add that question to the existing markdown um and you're done and you and you have something that translations repo can see. Whereas if you do a full copy paste or place you might not, you could try one an experiment. I guess.

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So maybe we okay yeah, we could just play around with that a little bit. I just don't.

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To drop like whole, like thanks for all the prior videos of all of these, could you do them all again? We added here and there yeah that doesn't seem very powerful.

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Yeah I'll sort it out sorry for the noise, I'll sort it out.

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Oh, that's! Fine! Okay! So then issue the pr appear: elizabeth, precious.

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I'm trying to trying to like minimize the.

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You get what I'm saying here.

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Okay, I'm sorry go ahead.

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I just said 100 yeah.

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Gotcha and then it seems like most of the changes are minor. So then, once the prs are issued, then they can just be accepted. You know what I mean, yeah the mark changes and then once the prs are merged, so once like all of these are in has changed, we'll go ahead and mark them in here.

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And then we'll issue, one issue to the translations, repo, which is like from the dei working group. These are the metrics that have been updated and it would just list all of the metrics.

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As opposed to whatever 10 or you know, 15 issues, one for each metric.

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I have it right here.

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It's not me anymore, typing.

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The culprit it was me I cannot read down. I'm like right here.

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Okay, and so then, this this process, I think, is what seems to be the least amount of overhead for other working groups. If you recall, we had an original process, which was one person was assigned a metric.

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That person would go through the metric and propose changes. Do you remember this.

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And then the working group would pick up those changes.

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You know so like, for example, um I had done. I had gone and taken a look at family friendliness, so this is different than what we're doing now. I had taken a look at family friendliness and then, like I said these are the things that require attention and I I didn't make any changes and then sean like you actually went in.

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Do you remember and fix that yep yeah.

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Yeah, so it was like a.

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Or a year ago,.

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Yeah, it wasn't a year ago june, 8th.

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But it I think that process is too bulky. To be honest with you,.

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Yeah there's a lot of steps.

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It's a lot of steps, so I think, like for evolution, kind of like what we're doing with common sean.

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Yeah, like we just have people go.

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Just go: make changes, just people go, make changes like what oma and punches with dei yup. You know what I mean just go: make changes we'll bring them to the group and then we'll just issue prs from there. I think this whole, the tracking is trying to do with issues was too cumbersome.

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I know people think of that.

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Yeah, my only question is if uh we will still need to make sure that they fit the quality things for the metrics released, so that doesn't stop that metrics release process. If we've missed a step there, that would be my only question. You know what I'm saying.

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Yeah, I think, if it's a minor release, if we or I'm sorry minor change, if we just issue the pr that'll just be picked up like there's, really not a quality checklist. That needs to be done. I think if we do have a major change, then we probably want to put it through, like a whole, we're revising this metric.

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Yeah, because if we're adding like an image or like something yeah, something big, then we just want to make sure it doesn't break the metrics at least.

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Yeah, so maybe as soon as as soon as one of the working groups has what they would consider to be a major change to a metric, then we'll just we'll figure that we'll go back to this process for major changes, but minor changes I think, can just be prs and then, as long as it doesn't change the file name like it it'll be picked up in the next release.

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Oh and the other thing to add elizabeth, just when you're, while.

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You're in there.

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um Data last review, or whatever we call it yeah.

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Kind of forget what it is I'll get it in there, but it's the date. It's.

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But I kind of forget what I kind of forget: what like what we put for that if it's dated yeah or two.

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Yeah we like italicize it and format it yeah.

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Okay, does this make sense? Hopefully I'm not confusing the issue here.

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This this makes sense, I mean I I can follow it it's basically. The key thing is we're going to create one issue for all of them. Is that right.

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In the translations repo, so each right, each of these, assuming each of these, has a minor change. There's just going to be one pr, that's issued the pr will be merged and then that it's kind of done.

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So it looks like, though some of these were already had issues open in that.

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Yeah, because I was kind of following that model.

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Right, so can we just close those issues.

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I think so, let's just close them.

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I was thinking the same. I didn't want to just close them before I just.

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And so because these are all minor, they just get a pr, you know, and the pr does the tracking for us like. We don't need an issue to do that tracking. So the pr does, the tracking we can update it in here.

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Like date of last review, you know what.

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Just put today's date in there that'll track that.

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um And then, if it's a major change so pretending that project burnout was a major change, then we'd still issue a pr. You know what I mean as a proposed change, but then I think this is when we open up a new issue and say we.

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Quality, we have some things we have to check here. Yeah. It's basically like nature, we're treating it like an issue.

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Does that make sense? Okay, sorry for confusing things. I think we I just made it more complex than it needed to be at the beginning.

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No, it took a lot of, I mean, there's a lot around the process. I don't think I would have fully understood it if you haven't gone through it honestly.

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Okay, okay, uh yeah.

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We didn't know until we did it so now, we've done it.

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Exactly- and it just seems so much easier when we're like, are there any volunteers to review the metrics and people would volunteer and it was awesome, and now we have them all reviewed by a community member and that's great, so, okay, all right cool. um If you have any questions, just just put it in the just put put it in like slack or something like that, um I did have, let's see, maybe just I'll skip on these two for just a second.

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um We we just we need to do this, so we need to take a look at chaos con europe and how we are doing as a conference against our badging criteria.

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You know what I mean like so really think about how, before we submit an application and think about how we're doing yeah ways that we could improve chaos con and then.

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Do we need to make sure that the chaos con badging review is conducted by somebody who isn't principally homed in the chaos project, in other words, yeah? It's like a little weird badging ourselves. So.

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I had suggested the audit team members they're familiar with yes, the event badging, and um so at least two of them.

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That seems an excellent suggestion.

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Chris christie has already been trained on badging, so she would be great um and then the second one we can just maybe go over. I can have a one-on-one okay.

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Somebody to train them on like just what it all is and how to do.

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It okay that'd, be great, um and so maybe from my perspective, it's a couple step process one. We should probably take a look at what we are saying on our web page. You know what I mean like the things that we know are going to be reviewed in the in the badging.

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There are things that we probably want to find out so, for example, on september 12th, which is the day of chaos con do we have access like? Are there um uh like family-friendly facilities available at the venue? That's the day before oss eu I'm like? Is that something that is available that day? I have no idea and if.

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It is, we should.

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Probably promote it, but this is this: is a service that's available, so so there's probably a little bit of work that needs to be done before we actually make a submission and then somebody will have to make the submission, and then we have to have that submission reviewed.

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So would anybody want to take a look at how we align with the badging parts like how we think we might do.

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You know what I mean.

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Like kind of a pre, a pre pre-evaluation by ourselves.

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Which is an event, so, let's just talk yeah, let's talk through the crate. I see what you're saying talk to the criteria and see where we sit yeah.

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If there's anything that.

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We need to address like right now I can tell you: we do not provide diversity, access tickets, but the linux foundation, good scholarship support, and so do we because we're an lf project like how do we? How do we present that? So so, yes,.

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I think the scholarships.

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Yeah go ahead, john.

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Does the I would think the linux foundation would allow us to uh grant diversity access tickets that it would be as simple as us asking them to uh give us a code that we can give to people who get diversity access tickets? But I, I also think the scholarship's important, because many people on this call wouldn't be able to travel without the scholarship support.

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So we we might want to make like a maybe even on our site, like a map of that, like how you would go about attending chaos con if you needed support.

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Yeah, I agree, we don't have any. I don't think we have anything about that right now. Well, I don't that'll be a really that's a really.

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Yeah so like step, one would be to apply for scholarship dollars from the lf, and I would probably need to confirm that if those does the do the scholarships pay, you money, you know, or do they just like waive fees.

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And nod's, the only person I know, that's gotten one and my understanding is they paid his travel costs significant extent.

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Plane, tickets and stuff like that.

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Yeah, that's my recollection as well. Okay,.

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Do uh okay and then the other would be is that we don't provide travel support, but we provide like tickets.

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You know what I mean like a diversity access ticket to oss eu at a large level, and then chaos con at a smaller level.

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Ruth said it's a reimbursement for flight and hotel. I do what are people I'm just trying thinking out loud here? Do people have.

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I think maybe we need a little clarification from the lf on a few points. Okay,.

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So scholarships.

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Like kind of what they, what they are.

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I was just yeah, I was just looking on the website repo and I think we might actually benefit from just asking kevin quick, which of the overwhelming number of markdown documents at that link is where the because you know attending information shows up, because I don't actually know where to start editing, to add that material, okay,.

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I would suspect that I can get um codes for chaos con, because I was able to get codes for speakers for chaos. Con.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking mm-hmm and the rest of the summit. That's going to be a lf code.

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Is anybody registered.

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Os x, we actually haven't actually haven't yet.

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We haven't either like I'm wondering if you can. Okay out there.

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Are a few things I need to clarify from the lf all right um that we can.

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We can put on our site for support um ruth.

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This for travel funding for oss eu.

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Yeah I just want to like update, see how that my travel funding request was approved, say yay.

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Yeah I'll begin with the application. Next, then, okay.

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So what do they? They approve, like airfare, yeah.

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So yeah I I did like in math um with like with them. I uploaded like the cost of travel and um accommodation at the time which was around 1500.

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They did approve 1500.

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And do they did they waive registration.

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Yeah, so I'm a speaker so um yeah I did I'm one of the speakers.

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Anyway, okay, the code.

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Was given so yeah, I do not know about for travel funding if they read like for people that are attendees that applied as attendees. So I do not know about that. Okay,.

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Okay, and did you register for have you registered for the conference ruth.

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No, I did the registration like since, but yeah I haven't read stuff for chaos con directly. I think it should kill content but cards here in nigeria. I mess can do more than the limit of 20, so I have to do it. Maybe when I come for the conference or something.

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Okay, so you have registered for oss eu.

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Not chaos, khan,.

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um I mean what do people think about, like uh a request site for diversity, access tickets for chaos, just like independent of the lf registration, because, like it, would.

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Certainly, we've done it before yeah we've, just let people in informally, and so I don't see, I don't have a problem with that.

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Yeah ruth okay, yeah.

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The thing we're having like um diversity like poems for people too, I think, before you can assess um chaos con you need to have um registered for oss eu right. I think.

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That's correct: it's all part of the same registration process.

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Yeah, I think we have to work with lf if we want to do that as well, because maybe they could, I think someone said like a code for people to assess, like the main.

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They can provide something like that, but you know currently that the applications are closed for like sponsorship um on their page. So I don't know we're on lf projects, so they should. We should do something.

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Yeah and they're super helpful. The events team is amazing in terms of trying to help us through this. So maybe I should just set up a call with them to get some clarity on this, because I even think like I don't.

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I think it would be hard for somebody to show up to dublin and only go to chaos con and not oss eu, because it's in the oss eu venue and they have people checking badges, you know, so I don't think you could walk into the venue and just go to chaos con without being registered for oss eu.

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That seems like my experience from prior conferences,.

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But I can ask okay all right um I'll get some clarity on this, this one's remarkably complicated. It's interesting, okay,.

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So, let's see I was gonna ask um the newcomer experiences with the chaos project. How things are how things seem to be going? I know elizabeth. You were away a little bit, but I know you kind of lead a lot of that um yeah ruth. Do you have a comment.

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Yeah, I think things have been well like we've been going pretty good because um for my end I know like there are some newcomers. um That's we've seen like um contributions literally um they've been bringing up contributions that they've been making efforts um aside. You know the new commerce call and you know current um reach-outs um people do to me on dm, and I explain and even within chaos, africa as well, things have been going well.

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um I think what I want to see even leads into the next topic or I'll just hold that on, but things have been going well and something I wanted to point out is um we could we are doing a lot of um projects here in chaos like a lot of websites we design? So we can't really measure this right now. um You know the handbook is being um worked on currently, so I don't think we can measure their uh newcomer experience.

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Well, I would say it's going well because you haven't seen people um stop contributing yeah.

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I think it's personally, I think it's going real well, too. I've seen a lot of newcomers participating consistently in our meetings over the last three weeks four weeks, so it's been amazing um sean. How are things going? I know you've been running some auger sessions.

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Haven't you you're, muted,.

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Sean I haven't, I haven't, had uh participation yet, but I haven't actively promoted it very heavily either, so I'm gonna start to actively promote it very heavily and uh maybe I'll get elizabeth's help with that. I think. uh Okay, all we need to do is like a little bit of a like. uh I think the next one is um a week from saturday, so perhaps we can uh do a twitter push or something like we've done before.

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I could have done that while elizabeth was out, but I did not so I think the the need to promote is there, and I have not done that, but.

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Okay, have you have you talked with folks like it? um Oh ruth just said she can help promote in chaos. Africa as well. Sean awesome awesome early in the morning. Your time, don't you so.

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Yeah they're like 7 to 10 in the morning us yeah. I try to make it like. I can't make it fit every time zone, but I I basically try to make it fit africa, europe, india um and the us. Okay,.

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um Okay, that'd be great.

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um I think think it's um it's the right time to ask.

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There is a money event I see on the calendar which I always want to attend, but um I think it's by sean um one that um has a related project, something something um yeah or more lab.

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No, no, no, no.

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But I'm not sure um because every time I've ever, I think it's race now I've tried to check in, but um they always tell me the host has not yet started the meeting, so it looks like um it doesn't happen.

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I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the meeting then because nobody's been showing up and I've been a little perplexed by that. But I wonder if there's some some kind of issue with how I'm logging in or the link I'm using.

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Yeah, maybe it's the link because I know the first one I tried sure enough, but it said the same um course doesn't meet. Maybe you want to double check the link.

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Yeah, you know what I'll what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna create a scheduled recurring meeting in zoom and use that link that that should be more stable because I've had I've had not the widespread issue, because these are all newcomers. So I guess it's more widespread, but we've I've definitely had issues with people ending up in the wrong room, because some of our links in the meetings are outdated.

C

So not that meeting but other meetings. So I've had the that happened before and obviously I'm. I thought I was doing it right, but I'll just create a link for every meeting.

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Yeah I I have had an issue where I was in another meeting for the newcomers um office hours and I was there like 10 minutes before I found the court link. I.

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Remember that okay.

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So I have to sorry sean don't go ahead.

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Okay, so I have to I'm going to fix that game first uh and then maybe I'll also create a link to the slack channel in the meeting invite so that if people are having trouble, they can slack message to a particular specific place.

C

Okay, so otherwise I won't know, are you gonna? Oh people are having trouble and you're updating it. Yeah, I'm gonna calendar too yeah. So what I'm going to do is after this meeting. So I don't like log out the host I'll log into the chaos zoom and create them create a zoom scheduled meeting that will have a specific link for for that meeting. Okay,.

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All right: well, I'm glad we brought this up.

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Yeah no thank you all right.

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Cool um ruth did you have a comment on chaos? Africa. You said you were kind of holding off on a combat, but maybe.

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Yeah, um so um since how things are going in chaos, africa, where we have the onboarding phase, where, like I'm, trying to kind of like on board um the contributors that have shown um you know have been showing up in meetings, I've been trying to onboard them to help them kind of like understand what we do at chaos. um My my plan for this is that, um after you know getting them up to speed, they could also help with onboarding all that. So it's like a chain. You know they help.

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um I do um someone boarding and then three people on about six just like a chain to help people kind of like understand. um Also um I've been making some plans for a sweeter space kind of like.

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An informal kind of um events um orange without to kind of bring people that I've been doing open source in africa for quite a long time to talk about like challenges, I'm going to share dates when we have everything settled up, but I have like three speakers confirmed already, so I'm definitely going to share that um to kind of um people could join in as well through twitter.

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So they cannot see on events, to learn more about the challenges that they have seen since they have been in the space for like five years and some 10 years to kind of learn from what they know and how they would solve it or solutions that they have. So we can pick up from there.

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I have also been meeting with um some folks in like different african countries, but I kind of like nude says that kills. Africa is more like a large percentage of their members for chaos, africa and nigerians.

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So I have been trying to like connect and reach out with um other um african countries and justin helped me connect with some folks in cameroon, so um I've been joining communities and trying to reach out to more uh more folks in other countries as well. I know uh celeb from the rdi or this group also talked about some other folks which um I'm going to connect with later on. So I've been doing a lot of things, but the rapids have been going well and you're in the onboarding and learning phase, so yeah.

A

uh Amazing, that's all so. Thank you for that ruth I mean that work is, is amazing, um as and I'll keep putting this out there right if there are things that right exactly. I agree with elizabeth such great work, um ruth. If there are things that you know you feel like you need as part of doing your work, don't hesitate to let us know, you know what I mean.

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A

Right, that's amazing! um I'm I'm actually really excited about the twitter spaces and um really talking about about that work. um Do you know who the speakers are? I'm kind of curious.

D

Yeah, um so one is so the two founders of open source community africa are samsung, gadi and alda.

D

She she's also the founder of chaos, africa, uh massive chaos, africa. um She called africa um and I'm also going to connect with some other folks in other african countries. I have two confirmed, but I'm still making those connections so I'll get as much people as much representation as possible.

A

Okay, we need to really promote this. I think.

D

Yeah and to be recorded, so um you can record twitter species. Okay,.

B

D

Going to record, but I think, there's a limit of 30 days. It stays for like 30 days, so I I'll find a way to take the record in to another platform. I think there's a way to do that, so we can have it maybe somewhere under chaos, youtube or something we should be able to what.

C

What we do is we download the mp4 files. I think they are okay and just upload them to we upload them to youtube and yeah. I think we can give if you want them to be part of a separate chaos, africa channel, you could create a separate channel or if you wanted to be tagged in the general chaos channel. I think we just have to give your google account permission to do those uploads.

D

Yeah, I think I do have the google accounts permissions. I have the google account blog. You said, maybe that.

C

Is it the same? Google account elizabeth as the video is the video and the chaos project at gmail. Is that all the same? I don't know.

B

That's a great question: I'm I'm not sure I think, because I just my personal one is added as an admin and I think georgia.

C

That's what I was wondering as well so yeah, I think I think, like elizabeth or any other admin could add your gmail to the youtube permissions. Okay,.

D

That works and I think omar alma said we could use um chaos classical also uploaded scales as well.

C

For sure absolutely.

D

I'll keep you all updated when you have everything in place and.

A

Please yeah! That's amazing! Okay, cool! uh Well, look at that we're at the end of time.

A

It's 10 to the hour you're, all amazing! um Thank you for for people for taking on action items from this meeting and doing prior work and doing amazing work in.

B

A

It's just it's really incredible, so thank you, everybody for all of that um elizabeth. Welcome back! It's good to see you you've.

C

Been missed great to see you elizabeth, yes, you've been messing.

B

With me, I missed all your faces so much.

C

I got I got one of the three newsletters that I was responsible for getting out while you were gone published. So you know in the major league baseball world, that's pretty good average.

B

No worries at all.

A

All right everybody until next time. Thank you.

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B

Everyone thanks enoch.