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A
We
are
recording
now
this
is
the
diversity
equity
inclusion
meeting
for
july
21st
2021
and
got
a
few
new
people.
At
least
I
know
nico
is
new.
I
trisha
I
haven't
met
before,
but
maybe
it's
just
me.
C
D
Welcome
welcome
with
university
nebraska
at
omaha
yeah.
A
Okay,
it's
just
me
it's
so
everyone
knows
trisha
and
I'm
the
one
that
hasn't
met
her.
So
yes,
okay,
all
right,
well,
welcome
and
also
new
is
nico.
If,
if
you
want
to
just
take
a
little
a
minute
to
introduce
yourselves
and.
E
Good
yeah,
I'm
I'm
part
of
an
open
source
program
office
and
a
great
operator
in
the
netherlands
and.
E
Electrical
gas
gas
network
as
well-
that's
something
we
have
here,
but
we
only
been
around
for
like
a
year
doing
the
osbo.
So
we
have
metrics,
but
we
don't
do
much
with
it.
So
just
diving,
submerging
myself
in
chaos
and
yeah
learning
a
lot
welcome.
A
Yeah
I'd
met
niko
an
hour
ago
at
the
evolution
meeting,
but
I
know
he
I
know
he's
new
here,
so
I
thought
I'd
not
assume
everyone
here
was
at
evolution.
So
on
the
agenda
today
I
see
a
global
inclusion
event
at
the
top
of
the
agenda
notes
and
then
some
items
from
last
week.
A
B
Yeah
me
and
matt
were
working
on
the
global
inclusion
event
and
we
were
wondering
if
you
guys
could
look
at
it,
because
we
put
up
the
metric
and
yeah.
We
just
wanted
to
see.
If
you
guys
could
look
at
it.
C
F
Yeah,
let
me
pull
up
the
pull
request.
Yeah.
Is
it
the
inclusive
experience
at
an
event?
Is
it
the
one
down
below
or
is
it
sometimes.
D
B
D
B
D
Up
background
to
this
one,
I'm
not
sure,
okay
I'll.
A
A
Okay-
and
I
don't
know
what
I
have-
I
have
not
seen
the
outdated
flag
on
github
before
so
I
have
no
idea
what
that
means.
I
guess
it
may
mean
that
the
review
is
outdated,
because
the
changes
requested
have
been
made.
G
A
Garrett,
you
know
it'd
be
great
as
if
github
or
git
lab,
purchased
garrett
and
actually
created
a
consistent
platform
for
it.
We're
working
with
I'll
just
decide
we're
working
with
garrett
right
now
with
auger
and
every
implementation
is
nominally
different
depending
on
the
version.
So,
unlike
git
lab
or
github,
you
can't
count
on
all
the
things
being
there
in
each
instance,
so
it
makes
it
challenging
for
tool
builders.
But
what
do
we
do?
What's
the
do?
We
have
a
policy
about
the
dco
being
missing.
D
G
They
can,
they
can
add
the
the
dco
to
a
comment
as
well.
Oh,
and
if
they
add
the
dco
to
the
comment
you
can
just
go
in
and
change
the
you
can
override
the
dco.
A
Yeah
I've
got
privileges
on
the
org
to
override
the
dco,
but
I
I
always
ask
working
group
my
working
group.
What
the
practice
is.
Okay,
so
is
this
in
a.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
wasn't
I
had
said
to
remove
the
optional
headers,
but
I
think
I
made
the
mistake
of
saying:
remove
the
optional
and
then
sorry
about
that,
so
the
headers
yeah
those
headers
have
to
go.
I
can
get
rid
of
them
right
now.
Okay,.
I
D
My
question
is,
we
have
to
so
I'm
wondering
what
the
process
is
once
since
this
I
don't
know
if
it's
documented
anywhere.
How
do.
A
Yeah
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
handbook,
so
what
we
would
do
and
kevin
lombard
has
been-
has
been
through
this
with
me
enough
now
that
I
remember
it,
we
need
to
put
a
preliminary
release
heading
on
it,
because
it's
it's
coming
as
a
mid-release
metric.
I
believe
that's
the
intention
here
and
then
there's
a
we
open,
an
issue
for
comments
and
send
an
email
to
the
community
asking
for
feedback
on
that
issue,
and
I
can
actually
go
find.
A
A
G
Yep
sorry
I
was,
I
was
telling
you
you
didn't
need
to
go
look
for
that.
However,
I
was
muted,
so
so
I
just
sat
there
watching
you
go,
look
for
it.
Oh
thank
you.
G
G
So
as
though,
as
that
message
implies
by
the
way,
you
also
have
to
create
a
comment
issue
and
include
the
link
to
the
comment
issue
in
the
in
the
metric
okay.
So
so,
when
you
do
the,
when
you
do
the
pull
request
to
your
working
group
for
this
metric,
that
starts
the
process
of
moving
the
metric
into
the
the
review.
The
continuous
review
cycle.
A
A
G
A
and
there's
a
tag
that
you
want
to
put
on
that
issue
as
well.
Okay,
and
that
tag
is
the
signal
for
us
to
move
the
the
metric
to
the
to
the
website
after
it's
been
pulled.
D
G
Oh,
I
believe
it's
community
review
or
something
like
that.
You
yeah
I
mean
you,
can
I
can
I'll
find
it
yeah.
I
believe
I
believe
labels
are
yeah
common
metrics.
D
So
we
have
two
that
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
have
to
clean
up
a
little
bit
here
and
then
we'll
have
those
if
we're
not
ready
for
next
week.
A
F
So
I
think
the
metric
looks
good.
I
was
looking
at
the
if
the
files
changed
and
click
on
that
john.
Yes,
so
I
think
the
metric
looks
good
just
have
to
remove
those
row.
20
21
yep
for
22
to
24.
F
F
D
I
this
is
for
trisha
I'll
have
to.
I
have
to
open
a
pull
request
to
your
version
of
it
and
then
I'll
work
with
you
on
getting
that
resolved
and
also
fixing
the
other
one
other
postcards
as
well.
You
could.
A
F
G
D
G
I
think
sean
had
asked
early
on,
I
believe,
are
we
are
we
sure,
there's
no
content
that
we
want
to
add
into
those
headers
below
those
headers.
D
D
F
D
Definitely
this
is
going
to
go
directly
into
so
the
badging
process.
I'll
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
later
too,
but
we're
looking
at
doing
a
badging
freeze
at
about
september
5th.
So,
like
five
days
after
the
metrics
release,
yeah.
C
D
Then,
having
our
new
badging
release,
b3
start
at
the
end
of
september,
okay,
cool.
F
Yeah
that'd
be
cool
to
talk
about
that
later
too
nico.
Basically,
these
these
metrics
and
in
dei
one
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had
is
it's.
F
E
I
have
a
question
on
that:
yeah,
I'm
I'm
a
green
red
colorblind,
so
I've
just
from
my
personal
experience,
things
like
are
the
slides,
legible.
How
about
the
website?
I
noticed
some
things
in
in
github
but
say
I
want
to
add
an
issue
where
sh
or
come
up
with
a
new
initiative
for
metric.
Should
I
add
it
on
an
agenda
or
create
a
an
issue
for
it.
Yes,
the
best
entry
point.
F
Yeah,
so
I
think
for
the
you
added,
so
there
was
a
comment
you
had
for
the
value
working
group
with
the
I
think
you
know
so
that
was
awesome.
I
love
that,
so
the
process
would
be
go
to
the
respective
working
groups
repository
and
then
just
add
an
issue
and
tag
it
as
a
new
metric
idea,
and
then
we
can
bring
it
up
in
the
video.
A
The
good
news
for
you
is
that
both
grimorlab
and
auger
use
colorblind
templates
that
are
designed
for
colorblind
people
to
be
able
to
interpret
them
a
lesson
right.
A
lesson.
I
personally
learned
when
I
turned
in
my
dissertation
with
nice,
colored,
graphics
and
learned.
My
advisor
was
colorblind.
E
F
So
and
then
in
this
process,
nico
so
like,
if,
if
attention
to
color
blindness,
was
a
metric
that
moves
through,
I
think
that's
a
very
nice
candidate.
We
we'd
move
it
through
and
then
the
process
for
connecting
it
with
the
dei
badging
program
would
be
as
part
of
that
review.
There
would
simply
be
a
conversation
as
to
how
the
event
organizers
are
attending
to
color
blindness.
Are
they
reaching
out
to
their
submitters
to
to
think
about
color
blindness
right?
So
you
know
it's.
F
It's
not
like
it's
something
that
we
can
necessarily
measure,
but
we
just
like
to
have
that
conversation
with
event
organizers
to
kind
of
move
it
to
to
a
point
where
they
think
about
that
when
they're
putting
together
their
events.
D
Excellent
also,
it
looks
like
time
inclusion.
The
plural
quest
is
ready
to
merge.
It's
got
a
corresponding
issue
as
well.
A
E
Okay,
yeah,
I
will
I
I
noticed
a
couple
about
the
chaos
website
itself,
but
not
a
general
metric,
then
I'll
add
one
more
thing
in
here
too
nico.
So
we.
F
Also,
the
metric
is
merged
hold
on
just
a
second.
We.
F
So
this
is
our
spreadsheet,
where
we
track
all
of
our
metrics
as
well.
So
these
are
you'll
see
in
some
of
the
rows
like
what
sean
is
showing
like
row,
32
technical
jargon
like
it's
something
that
somebody
has
brought
up.
We
just
haven't
taken
the
time
to
build
a
metric
out
for
it
yet
and
think
through
it.
So
you
know
if
you
include
color
blindness.
It
would
be
something
that
we
would
add
here
as
well.
G
Better
niko,
if
you,
if
you
have
specific
examples
you
saw
on
the
chaos
website,
I
would
really
appreciate
it
if
you
could
open
an
issue
so
that
I
can.
I
can
take
care
of
that
and
then
I
also
know
should
we
just
add
it
right
now:
yeah,
if
they
ex
or
you
can
just
yeah
informally.
Let
me
know
what
they
are
and
update.
A
A
The
issue
on
the
website,
repo
is
a
really
good
idea,
because
that
helps
us
track
that
I'm
just
asking
if
we
should
just
add
colorblindness
as
a
considering
metric
while
we're
here.
E
Yeah,
maybe
you
misunderstood
my
words
about
the
website.
I
noticed
that
probably
there
were
closed
issues.
There
were
a
couple
of
issues
in
this
working
group
get
a
repository
related
to
the
website
of
chaos.
Maybe
they're
addressed
already,
I'm
not
sure,
but
it's
not
something
that
I
notice
at
least
so.
I
don't
know
a
particular
issue
about
the
current
state
of
the
website.
G
Okay,
I
believe
I
believe
we
are
using
a
a
colorblind
template
and
as
most
of
the
visually,
the
visualizations
provided
by
auger
and
gremore
lab
all
all
come
in
colorblind
safe
as
well.
If
you
do
notice
an
issue,
please
let
us
know,
and
we
are,
we
are
actually
doing
an
accessibility
audit
on
the
website
following
the
migration.
So
if
there
are
issues
there
we're
hoping
to
catch
it
as
well,
but
I
apologize
if
I
misunderstood,.
E
A
Your
work
on
this
yeah
well,
it's
great
to
see
a
metric
get
put
out
there
to
be
reviewed
in
the
middle
of
a
meeting.
That
is
a
win
in
my
humble
opinion,
so
the
next.
So
I
in
this
in
the
context
of
this
group,
I
believe
that
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda
and
is
the
is
the
from
last
week
something
that
we
want
to
leave
in
the
minutes,
or
should
I
take
that
out
and
just
make
those
agenda
items?
C
J
And
that's
the
one
I've
been
working
on
and
I
did
clean
it
up
a
little
there's,
still
a
few
kind
of
trailing
comments
that
I
left
open,
one
in
particular
it
was
from
lawrence
on
down.
I
think
he
wanted
to
provide
some
feedback,
but
I
think
maybe
the
last
time
we
didn't
accept
or
or
I'm
not
sure,
really
what
happened.
I
don't
I
don't
remember
that
but
yeah.
J
I
hope
that
he
comes
back
in
and
offers
his
feedback,
so
I
wanted
to
leave
it
open
a
little
bit
longer
to
give
lawrence
a
chance
to
provide
feedback,
and
then
you
know,
but
we
can
certainly
like
look
at
it
if
we
all
if
we
want
to
or
we
can
wait
whatever.
A
A
All
right,
so
someone
will
tag
lawrence
and
we'll
leave
this
open
for
comments,
I
think,
is
what
I'm
hearing.
A
Yeah
we
can
yeah
absolutely
taking
five
minutes
or
something
yeah,
but
let's
take
five
minutes
and
look
at
this:
do
you
want
me
to
pause
the
recording
we,
while
we
do
this
or
or
just.
G
J
I
would
say
definitely
suggestions.
That
seems
to
be
how
you
know
usually
how
we
roll
it
does
say.
G
How
how
complete
does
the
survey
do
we
want
the
survey
to
be
because
I
would
say
that
the
more
the
more
specific
this
survey
is
the
more
it
implies
that
this
is
the
tool
or
the
method
we've
created
to
measure
this
this
metric,
so
it
becomes
less
a
suggestion
and
more
a
like.
This
is
the
way
you
should
do
it
so.
A
Does
that
make
sense
yeah
it
does.
My
my
suggestion
to
your
question
is
that
I've
underscored
and
bolded
the
word
candidate
survey
questions,
because
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
super
helpful
to
have
this
kind
of
detail
so
that
somebody
knows
somebody
has
a
place
to
start
right.
It's
easier
to
have
a
place
like
this
to
start
than
it
is
to
invent
your
own
survey,
and
I
suspect
anyone
that
actually
deployed
a
survey
would
start
here
and
modify
to
the
context
that
they're
sending
the
survey
out
in.
G
I
agree
that
the
the
surveys
are
are
very
useful
to
have
and
we
should
include
them,
I'm
just
I'm
just
uncertain,
as
I
said,
I'm
just
uncertain
about
the
intent
and
the
message
that
we
would
be
sending
to
individuals
who
are
looking
at
the
metrics.
So
if
yeah,
if
we
could
iron
out
the
language
around
that.
A
It
might
be
helpful,
I'm
interpreting
the
intent
based
on
the
use
of
the
word
sample
as
suggestive
rather
than
prescriptive,
and
I
suggested
a
change
of
just
you
know.
Candidate
survey
questions
include,
that's
a
and
then
putting
the
bolding
and
underscoring
in
there
to
make
it
super
clear
that
this
is
not
prescriptive,
or
at
least
I
think,
bolding
and
underlining
makes
things
super
clear.
Although
I've
also
been
told,
that's
lazy,
writing.
F
A
A
G
I
think
we
do
have
a
bit
of
a
tendency
to
treat
some
of
these
metrics
as
methods
rather
than
rather
than
metric
descriptions
or
definitions.
So
we
do
have
a
bit
of
a
tendency
to
do
that.
G
We've
we've
caught
it
in
the
past
and
kind
of
pushed
back
against
it
with
with
some
of
the
metrics,
the
the
social,
the
social
listening
metric
was
one
that
was
it
was,
you
know,
we
wrote
it
as
a
method
and
then,
at
a
later
date
we
went
back
and
and
edited
it
to
remove
a
lot
of
the
method
from
it.
G
So
I
I
do
think
that's
a
tendency.
We
have
a
little
bit
with
you
know
metrics,
I
I'll
say
like
that:
magic.
Yes,.
I
Just
thinking
I
I'm
actually
I'm,
I
think
I
see
where,
where
kevin's
coming
from
on
this
too,
and
I
was
thinking
that
well
one
of
the
things
that
we
in
terms
of
what
language
we
use
or
not.
I
don't
think
that
will
stop.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
people
coming
to
a
metric
that
we
publish
and
define
and
just
copy
pasting
everything
we
say,
making
no
changes
and
using
it
somewhere
else,
that's
cool.
I
If
it's
helpful
and
that's
great,
but
I
see
there's
this
piece
where
I
don't
know
how
often
we
regularly
revisit
these
kinds
of
things
in
the
metric.
I
think
this
is
where
maybe
I'm
kind
of
reading
kevin
that
there's
kind
of
a
commitment
that
things
will
change,
and
especially
around
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
I
I
A
I
I
have
no,
I
have
no
objection
to
that
admit
that
that
makes
some
sense
it
enables
it.
I
think
one
thing
it
does
is
as
new
concerns
about
areas
for
psychological
safety
emerge.
A
It
puts
us
in
a
position
where
we
don't
have
to
modify
this
metric,
so
it
makes
the
metric
itself
more
amenable
to
the
evolution
of
what
psychological
safety
is
defined,
as
so,
they
don't
have
to
come
back
and
add
sample
questions
or
feel
the
need
to
do
that.
A
So
we
would
just
oh
sorry,
keep
going
sean,
it
might
make
it
more.
Maintainable.
G
I
think
we
would
use
yeah,
we
probably
chop
it
out
and
use
this
survey
in
the
blog
post
and
we'd
add
in
its
place.
We'd
have
more
generalized
language
for
guidance,
for
data
strategies
and,
and
maybe
this
survey,
this
survey
is
less
a
data
strategy
and
it's
more
a
tool
similar
to
auger
that
we're
linking
out
to
right
so
like
auger,
more
lab.
Those
are
those
are
tools
that
we
use.
Now
this
the
survey
is
a
tool
as
well,
so
we
treat
it
more
as
a
tool
rather
than
a
data
collection
strategy.
F
F
I
mean
so
personally
I
like
it.
I
don't
see
this
as
that
similar
to
the
social.
F
G
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
having
a
survey
in
the
document
as
an
example,
I
do
think
I
think
justin's
point
is
valid
as
well,
but
yeah
and
my
original
comment
was-
is
just
mostly
about
changing
the
language
in
it
to
make
to
make
to
make
it
clear
that
this
is
an
example
of
a
survey
that
could
be
used.
J
So
I
see
this
is
as
similar
to
the
project
burnout
metric,
where
you're
just
trying
to
get
a
feel
for
how
people
feel
you
know
a
pulse
of
how
they're
feeling
and
so
like
in
the
burnout
metric.
We
say
the
following
is
a
way
to
better
assess
the
well-being
of
open
source
project
contributors
and
maintainers
through
a
useful
set
of
questions
that
can
be
asked
regarding
the
well-being
of
community
members
and
then
we
go
and
we
list
some
questions.
So
maybe
we
could
put
something
like
that.
A
A
You
know,
I
think
it
makes
the
metric
easier
to
consume.
If
the
questions
remain,
because
then
I
I
can
my
concern
about
including
it
only
as
a
reference
or
even
if
even
if
we
refer
to
the
reference
in
the
narrative
is
that
people
won't
make
that
next
click.
You
know
it's
it's
like
it's
it's
like
approving
payroll.
Like
the
number
of
times
I
the
number
of
times,
I
have
to
click
something
in
peoplesoft
to
get
to
approve.
A
My
employees,
payroll
is
like
seven
or
eight,
and
I
just
I
hate
it
when
I
have
to
just
like
make
so
many
clicks
to
just
do
one
thing,
so
I'm
I'm
always
in
favor
of
fewer
clicks
for
the
psychological
well-being
of
all
people.
A
J
A
A
A
F
A
G
F
J
A
J
A
Be
all
right,
I
think
I
think
I'll
just
make
a
comment
that
when,
when
we
move
this
to
mark
down,
it
will
be
clear
that
the
response
grid
under
d
is
for
each
of
those
items.
G
By
the
way
when,
when
these
metrics
get
this
part
of
the
the
metrics
release
process
right
now,
tables
are
not
displaying
properly
when
we
convert
this
to
pdf.
G
So
our
the
current
the
current
thought
from
the
the
mars
project
team
is,
we
would
like
to
provide
guidance
to
the
working
groups
to
preferably
not
use
markdown
tables.
A
J
F
F
J
G
F
D
Always
give
an
update
on
badging,
so
we
are
working
on,
like
I
said,
before,
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
badging
freeze
on
the
5th
of
september,
so
we'll
have
a
few
busy
days
to
get
everything
updated
from
the
final
version
of
every
metric
and
get
that
checklist
and
make
it
a
little
more
difficult.
One
of
our
big
goals
is
to
make
it
more
difficult
to
get
a
gold
badge,
because
every
badge
we've
given
out
so
far
has
been
a
gold
badge,
so
we
want
to
make
it
a
little
harder.
D
D
Also,
we've
had
a
lot
of
return
visitors,
which
is
really
cool
a
lot
of
people
from
the
lf.
Actually,
that
will
come
back
a
few
times
and
and
put
multiple
events
up.
We
had
one
time
where
we
had
like
12
events
at
once,
with
with
kubecon
cloudnativecon
and
all
the
co-located
events.
So
what
I
want
to
talk
about
with
for
today
with
the
group
is
thanking
the
badging
reviewers.
D
I
think
I
played
ping
pong
between
meetings
a
few
times
about
how
we
want
to
get
like
a
like
a
free
e-commerce
site
setup
or
something
like
that
that
we
can
send
things
out
to
badging.
Reviewers
and
gdpr
compliantly
collect
their
information
to
send
things
out,
but
I've
kind
of
gotten.
Like
a
lot
of
you
know.
We
need
to
do
this
and
this
and
this,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that
mostly
talking
to
the
lf
about
how
to
set
that
up.
D
So
I'd
like
to
try
and
get
that
going
because
so
far
the
reviewers,
but
I
think
the
most
things
they've
got
is
the
thanks
for
me
and
an
email
and
stuff
like
that.
But
I'd
like
to
do
something
tangible
and
our
whole
group
would
like
to
do
something
tangible.
So
I'd
like
to
bring
that
up.
F
D
Yeah,
because
I
know
I
know
we
wanted
to
set
up
and
we
had
some
people
doing
research
on
different
e-commerce
sites
we
could
use.
I
think
one
of
the
examples
is
zazzle,
but
something
that
we
could
use
to
just
like
you
use
it
as
kind
of
a
shell
e-commerce
site
where
you
could
just
say
this
is
zero
dollars
put
in
your
information,
go
ahead
and
choose
your
yeah.
D
H
D
That's
fair,
I
don't
think
chaos
is
necessarily
set
up
to
do
a
store.
What
we
want,
I
think
the
problem
for
us
is
the
infrastructure
and
making
sure
we're
complying
with
the
lf.
When
we
do
that,
I
wonder
how
hard
to
set
up
a
store.
H
C
H
They
want
to
wear
a
chaos
shirt
to
chaos.
Con
just
saying
you
know,
so
that
might
also
be
something
that
if
other
groups
wanted
to
do
it
to
thank
their
contributors,
we've
got
it
in
one
place
and
it's
not
just
for
the
badging
program.
Yeah.
G
That's
a
good
idea.
I
like
it
would
it
would
actually
be
fairly
easy
to
add
an
e-commerce
store
to
the
website.
I
mean
it's
it's
as
simple
as
adding
a
plugin.
A
H
H
To
zazzle
but
yeah
I
mean
that
would
give
you
know:
people
who
want
to
buy
stuff.
That
gives
us
a
little
income
that
we
can
spend
on
things
like
chaos,
con.
D
Yeah
I
like
that
idea,
a
lot
and,
by
the
way,
with
the
recommendations.
Emily
came
up
with
a
set
of
recommendations
from
isa
open
and
she
has
a
few
different
sites.
She
wanted
us
to
try
out.
I
just
haven't
been
able
to
get
it
going
yet
cry
out
for
this
kind
of
thing.
Yeah.
She
has
a
list
of
sites
that
might
be
good.
That
they've
tried
on
their
on
their
platform
as
well.
You
matt
can
you
maybe
me.
F
G
F
H
That
if
we
had
something
I'd,
probably
wear
it
around
with,
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
more
speakers
for
openstack
from
the
engineers
and
we're
in
the
process
of
doing.
We
can't
use
the
word
ambassador,
but
basically
an
ambassador
type
program,
and
you
know
we
have
different
we're
thinking
of
different
badge
levels
based
on.
You
know
what
you
contribute
and
with
the
idea
being
that
you
know,
if
you
do
something
really
great
you're
walking
around
in
a
backpack,
so
that
people
could
know
to
come
up
to
you.
H
D
Side
note
I
put
in
the
chat
that
we
have
a
bunch
of
we
have
a
few
sticker
mock-ups
for
the
badging
initiative
and
they
might
be
dei
related
as
well.
If
they're,
the
top
two.
H
Yeah-
and
I
know
the
leaderboard
talk
I
got
in
as
well-
I
don't
know
who
I
was
on
that
panel
with
george
and
I,
but
that
one
got
in
so
we
definitely
have
some
talks
that
will
be
during
the
week
and
not
just
con.
G
D
So
everything's
still
going
to
have
its
like
one
year
like
waiting
period
before
the
badge
is
invalid
again,
and
also
we're
going
to
do
it
gradually,
not
all
in
one
release
and
we're
going
to
it's
going
to
just
kind
of
slowly
become
more
difficult.
We
wanted
to
start
the
process
sooner
rather
than
later,
though,
I
think
it
comes
as
a
combination
of
adding
more
metrics
that
things
have
things
that
have
to
be
met
for
a
badge
and
also
making
it
making
the
percentage
required
for
getting
a
whatever
tier
of
badge.
G
D
We're
tying
everything
in
with
the
release
I
mean
it's
definitely,
release
dependent
and
and
like.
Hopefully,
people
will
still
want
to
get
a
v3
or
v4
badge,
even
though
it
might
be
more
difficult.
A
And
I'll
as
facilitator
note
that
we
are
at
time
I
I
did
throw
something
into
the
text
at
the
bottom.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
on
auger,
we
recently
added
something
called
prosebot,
which
checks
all
the
language
in
readable
documentation
for
words
that
are
potentially
non-inclusive
that
that
you
might
not
think
of
the
example
that
we
got
flagged
for
recently
was
the
use
of
grandfathered,
which
has
a
certain
connotations
that
I
I
personally
did
not
realize
were
problematic
in
the
us
english
language.
A
A
Can
you
put
that
on
next
is?
Did
you
put
that
on
next
week's
job?
I
I
added
I'll
put
it
on
next
week's
agenda
too
yeah.
Thank
you.
G
G
Like
you're
right
you're,
if
you're
moving
the
goal
posts
or
if
there's
with
you
know
or
if
there's
you
know
it's
almost
a
type
of
inflation
around,
you
know
what
a
what
a
gold
badge
is.
I
think
we
we
have
to
address
that
in
some
fashion
right,
because
I
don't
think
the
whole
badge
from
last
year
is
not
the
equivalent
to
a
gold
badge
from
this
year.
Oh.
A
Definitely
I'm
going
to
be
putting
that
on
the
value
yeah
I
mean,
I
think
I
think,
if
I
think
it's
okay
to
change
the
bar,
because
especially
because
these
are
events
like
the
the
cncf's
badging
program
is
badging
a
project
right,
and
so
that
is
durable
over
time
in
the
case
of
an
event,
the
events
in
the
past.
So
if
we
change
the
goal
posts,
I
don't
know
that
it
is.
G
A
H
H
G
G
If
we
just
view
gold
as
an
equal
value
every
every
time,
without
that
that
statement,
we
lose
that.
C
A
Right
on
all
right,
well,
thank
you.
All
for
participating
matt
will
be
our
matt.
Cantu
will
be
our
facilitator
next
time
and
matt
snell,
as
he's
listed
on
the
screen
here,
but
he's
not,
I
know
I
know
he
keeps.