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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group 5/4/22
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A
Button
welcome
to
the
diversity
and
inclusion
working
group
for
may
may
the
fourth
be
with
you.
Could
you
start
live
transcripts
yeah?
I
was
trying
to
find
that
button.
While
I
was
talking,
which
is
why
I
stumbled
over
myself.
I
was
thinking
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
meeting.
A
Are
never
attempts
to
multitask
if
you're
trying
to
find
the
zoom
button
as
one
of
the
tasks
so
I'll
ask
for
volunteers
for
a
facilitator
next
week.
This
is
my
second
week
in
a
row,
so
it'd
be
good
to
spread
around
a
little
bit.
So
it
looks
like
elizabeth
ruth
and
matt
have
an
update
for
she
code
africa,
newcomer
bot,.
C
Yeah,
we
just
saw
a
demo
and
it's
awesome.
It's
really
great,
so
I
think
it's
gonna.
This
is
gonna,
lay
a
really
good
foundation
for
us
to
build
on
in
the
future.
This
project
is
kind
of
short,
so
it's
you
know
almost
to
the
point
may
6
any
anytime
from
may
16
to
may
30th.
They
can
wrap
it
up.
So
it's
you
know
it's
a
pretty
short
project,
but
this
is
going
to
be
an
excellent
start
and
can.
D
C
Outside
of
our
small
group,
because
there's
some
tweaks
that
they
want
to
make
but
yeah,
I'm
really
really
proud
of
the
work
that
precious,
a
and
midi
have
done.
Just
really
outstanding
and
ruth
and
matt
have
been
fantastic
in
kind
of
helping
them
along
matt,
in
particular,
has
helped
them
tremendously
with
you
know,
just
the
technical
side
of
things
also,
I
wasn't
sure
we
we
did
set
up
a
yeah.
E
C
C,
sorry,
not
c,
we
didn't
set
up
a
a
chaos,
heroku
free
account,
so
I
don't
know
where
to
drop
that
information,
but
they
found
that
really
useful
when
they
were
creating
their
bots.
So
we
have
that
if
anybody
wants
to
use
it,
anybody
wants
to
use
it.
But
I
don't
know
where
to.
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
so
that's
available.
If
anybody
wants
it.
C
A
I
use
amazon,
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
service,
but
I
mean
I'd
be
interested
in
looking
at
what
it
is.
C
Yeah,
I
can
add
you
as
a
actually
I'll
add
you
and
matt
g
as
just
an
owner
of
the
account,
and
now
you
have
the
credentials
in
lastpass
that
we
share
so.
D
D
No,
I
I
can,
though,
actually
why
don't
you
just
go
ahead
and
do
that?
Okay,
just
make
like
an
admin,
folder.
C
Okay,
let
me
just
drop
a
an
action
item
for
me.
C
Yeah
because
we
started
one,
there
is
a
folder
where
we
were
dropping
things
like
for
dei
badging,
and
things
like
that,
so
it's
private
in
the
google
drive,
but
we
thought,
like
we
were
talking
about
this
with
kevin.
Actually,
yesterday
too,
we
can
put
some
of
those
docs
out
like
on
github
and
on
the
website,
wherever
else
and
then
link
to
those
private
docs,
so
that
everybody
knows
where
they
are.
Just
not,
everybody
can
see
them.
E
E
C
Yeah,
so
that
was
pretty
much
it,
but
here's
the
timeline
too.
I
added
that
in
there
in
case
anybody's
curious
of
when
that
project
wraps
up,
but
it
does
wrap
up
pretty
soon
so,
hopefully
very
soon,
we'll
have
the
ability
to
for
somebody
else
to
kind
of
check
that
out
and
also
we're
thinking.
We
will
when
we,
when
we
deploy
it
it'll
it'll
it'll,
go
to
everybody,
that's
on
our
slack,
which
is
a
lot
of
people
but
like
we
want
it
to
eventually
be
able
to.
You
know
anybody.
C
C
If
they're
new,
looking
for
information
on
metrics,
specifically
or
if
they're,
even
you
know
a
core
contributor
or
if
they're
you
know
somewhere
in
the
middle,
then
we
like
the
past
that
they
take
on
the
website,
might
also
kind
of
mirror
what
this
bot
could
do
for
people.
So
if
you
want
to
see
hey,
what
are
the
meetings
this
week
like
that
bot
could
just
tell
you
like
things
like
that.
You
know
where
quick
information,
it
could
tell
anybody.
C
D
C
Yeah,
something
like
like
ruth,
had
the
idea
of
just
doing
like
an
faq
like
just
type
faq,
and
then
it's
got
you
some
main
thing
you
can,
then
you
know
kind
of
go
down
the
tree.
A
C
Okay,
so
if
you're
not
following
the
event
badging
repo,
then
your
email
inbox
is
probably
a
lot
less
busy
than
those
who
have
been
watching
it,
because
we've
gotten
a
ton
ton
of
applications
recently,
mostly
from
one
or
two
people
at
the
lf,
so
that
a
lot
of
these
events
are
similar
in
structure
and
the
way
that
they're
thinking
about
dei.
C
F
F
C
I
was
gonna
say:
oh
my
gosh,
maybe
even
a
little
plushie,
I
don't
know
we'll
see,
but
they
they
have
been
doing
an
amazing
job
caffia.
Oh,
my
gosh
kaffia
is
amazing.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Kefiya
has
been
the
one,
that's
assigning
everybody
and
keeping
it
all
straight.
So
awesome.
D
D
C
Is
there
is
so
so
yeah
so
great
job
to
her
and
to
all
the
event,
badger
viewers,
but
we
are
looking
for
more
to
kind
of
ease
the
burden.
If,
if
history
repeats
itself,
we
will
have
another
wave
in
the
fall
and
they
usually
come
all
at
once
so
in
within
a
couple
of
days,
so
it
would
be
great
to
have
just
a
larger
pool
at
that
time
and
it
does
take
some
kind
of
onboarding.
C
So
that
being
said,
I
think
I'm
going
to
host
this
session
here
on
may
18th,
just
in
case
anybody
is
interested
and
we'll
kind
of
you
know
spread
the
word
on
that,
but
I
think
that
that
will
just
be
like
an
open
q,
a
here's,
what
how
it
works,
here's
what
you
would
need
to
do
as
a
as
a
reviewer.
I
think
it's
it's
a
really
good
way
for
someone
to
join
the
chaos
community.
It's
pretty
like
straightforward
and
it's
it's
pretty
low.
C
G
D
H
G
Everything
is
cookie
cutter,
so,
while
you
still
do
need
to
look
at
them
and
make
sure
you
can
find
everything,
especially
if
it's
wendy
putting
it
in,
she
knows
exactly
how
to
answer
all
the
questions
you
just
glance
at
it,
you
you
verify
and
boom
you're
done
now.
We
do
have
some
new
ones.
That
came
in
like
the
one
I
had
sent
over
from
open
info
summit,
and
there
are
differences
and-
and
you
know
some
people
would
think
we
were
unhappy
with
our
result.
G
Yeah
we
were
like
thrilled,
because
you
know
child
care
is
something
that
we
know
we
don't
have,
and
we
can't
have
and
we're
good
with
that.
So
don't
think
that
everyone
needs
to
be
that
gold,
because
most
of
these
organizers
do
know
where
they're
lacking,
and
they
have
reasons
for
why
they're
lacking
I
mean
the
only.
G
Better
was
the
travel
support
program
while
it
doesn't
say
it's
for
diversity
as
a
constant
previous
recipient
of
it.
They
do
take
diversity
into
account.
It's
just
not
written
there.
So
little
things
like
that
yeah,
we
can
change
for
the
future,
but
you
know
what,
even,
if
that,
going
forward
we're
going
to
be
silver
all
the
time
because
of
the
child
care
issue,
we're
good
with
that
we're
proud
of
what
we
do.
So
don't
think
everyone
has
to
be
gold.
As
my
main
point.
A
C
Yeah
for
sure-
and
there
is
it
is
on
in
the
works
of
us-
adding
even
more
criteria
again
with
the
accessibility.
That's
going
to
be
a
separate
section.
So
as
soon
as
we
get
through
this
wave
we'll
be
releasing
version
4.0,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
even
trickier
to
get
a
gold
bash,
so
yeah,
absolutely
silver
is,
is
wonderful
as
well,
so
yeah.
G
D
Agree
on
the
lf
applications,
I
mean
they're
so
consistent
in
what
they
do
and
particularly
like
if
it's
kubernetes
they
have
all
the
ancillary
events
like
a
lot
of
that
information
is
repeated
across
those
ancillary
events,
so,
like
the
cook
for.
D
And
that's
fine
and
they
only
post
like
their,
I
think,
maybe
even
the
application
for
the
diversity
access
tickets,
it's
kind
of
one
path
for
all
ancillary
events
or
the
codes
of
conduct.
It's
a
single
code
of
conduct.
A
That's
good
should
we
do
talk
about
code
of
conduct.
E
D
I
don't
know
so.
The
idea
from
last
week
was
that
we
would
spend.
Maybe
all
of
us
spend
like
maybe
five
minutes
on
our
current
code
of
conduct
or
ten
minutes
and
the
the
ask
is
that
we
take
a
look
at
this
code
of
conduct
just
from
a
from
a
code
of
conduct
perspective,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
it
is.
It
feels
like
it's
applicable
to
all
parts
of
what
we
do
in
the
chaos
project,
so
that
would
be
like
meetings
like
this.
It
would
be
conversations
in
slack.
D
A
That
helps,
and
from
last
time
I
think
we
had
some
recognized
potential
inconsistencies
or
things
we
wanted
to
address
in
these
three
sections.
So
I'll
just
bring
that
commentary
from
last
time
forward
for
us.
A
D
D
I
I
I
But
what
does
enforcement
look
like
on
that
above
list?
Right,
so
are
you
are
you,
in
violation
of
the
code
of
conduct,
if
you
don't
use
welcoming
inclusive
language
or
don't
show
empathy
towards.
I
Yeah
yeah
is
it
mapped
in
the
same
way,
because
they're
kind
of
they're
kind
of
presented
both
as
a
list
of
like
this
is
what
we
want
to
do,
and
I,
I
don't
think
it's
supposed
to
both
be
mapped
to
enforcement,
but
as
a
code
of
conduct
document
it
does
it
kind
of
feels
that
way.
Now,
like
the
like
that
that
above
list
would
be
back
to
some
sort
of
enforcement
too,.
I
Maybe
we
maybe
you
move
that
the
examples
of
behavior
that
contribute
to
a
positive
environment.
Maybe
you
move
that
up
to
the
r
pledge
section.
D
I
Well,
if
the
standards
aren't
followed,
we
have
a
process.
Okay,
so
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
clear
about
what
those
standards
are
and
how
they're
connected
to
enforcement
so
they're
these
they're,
the
two
lists
here.
One
of
them
is
this-
is
behavior
that
we
we
would.
We
would
really
love
to
foster
in
our
community,
and
this
is
this
is
really
good
stuff
and
then
the
second
list
is
a
list
of
things
that
could
trigger
code
of
conduct
enforcement
and
stuff
that
we
we
really
want
to
prevent.
C
I
think
it
says
it
in
enforcement,
instances
of
abusive,
harassing
or
otherwise
unacceptable
behavior
may
be
reported,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
would
need
necessarily
need
to
report
the
absence
of
like
if
someone
joins
the
community
and
nobody
happens
to
say,
hey
welcome
to
chaos
like
that's
in
my
mind,
not
a
breach
of
the
code
of
conduct.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
do
that
every
time,
but.
I
Yeah,
I
I
agree,
I
think
I
think
the
one
list
is
about
kind
of
fostering
a
positive
environment
and
the
other
one
is
kind
of
this,
this
list
of
things
that
we
want
to
prevent
and
could
trigger
enforcement
in
the
code
of
conduct.
I
think-
and
I
think
we
kind
of
need
to
separate
them
in
the
in
the
language
of
the
documentus.
C
C
I'll
also
just
mention
that
we
did
take
this
pretty
much,
not
exactly
word
for
word,
but
pretty
close
to
the
contributor
covenant
code
of
conduct
so,
like
I
think
it's
not,
I
think
it
would
be.
In
my
opinion,
it
would
be
okay
to
leave,
leave
it
also
as
it
is
because
I
think
that's
kind
of
tried
and
tried
and
true
established
established.
That's
a
much
better
word,
but
I
do
understand
your.
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
kevin:
I'm
not
sure
how
to.
I
So
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we,
if
we're
talking
about
enforcement,
we
probably
need
to
create
clear
actionable
things
that
that
that
would
occur
so
so
right
now
the
enforcement
is
it's
pretty
vague
right.
It's
I'm
not
really
sure
what
would
happen
if
I
were
to
from
reading
this,
I'm
not
really
sure
what
would
happen
if
I
were
to
use
abusive
language,
for
example.
I
A
I
think
part
of
that
vagueness
is
deliberate,
so
that
reason
and
sort
of
community
standards
can
involve
through
the
you
know,
cases
are
brought
to
us.
That
probably
means
that
there's
something
that
we
let
pass
in
our
culture.
That
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
so
I
think
the
reporting
process
is
intended
to
be
deliberative.
I
That
makes
that's
my
perspective.
I
could
be
wrong
that
that
may
be.
That
may
be
true,
but
I
think
that
makes
enforcement
difficult
and
it
also
adds
it
removes
transparency
from
from
the
process
as.
D
C
The
second
point,
though,
is
that
what
happens
next
like
where
what
are
the
levels
of
egregious
behavior
and
like
what
would
be
the
what
would
be
the
outcome
for
that
behavior,
and
I
think
I
think
what
he's
saying
is.
We
should
maybe
be
a
little
more
explicit
of
saying,
like
here,
kind
of
the
levels
that
we
have
and
here's
what
happens
if
you,
if
your
behavior
reaches
those
levels,
is
that
fair,
kevin.
A
G
That's
why
I
kind
of
like
switching
it
to
be
or
are
encouraged
to,
because
even
if
they're,
not
quite
sure
of
the
rules,
you're
at
least
encouraging
them
to
speak
up
about
something.
They
may
not
be
right
about
it
because
you
know
they're
not
fully
aware,
but
they
are
more
likely
to
do
some
comment.
You
know
do
something
if
they're
encouraged
to
then
it's
your
writing
responsibility.
C
Contributor
covenant
does
have
levels
so
in
in
like
here
I'll
drop.
The
link
here,
but
it
talks
about
like
here,
are
the
enforcement
guidelines
and
it's
it's
pretty
clear
on
like
here's.
What
the
community
impact
is.
Here's,
what
the
consequence
will
be
so,
like
the
it
goes
through
the
levels
so
like
the
first
one
is
a
correction.
The
next
one
is
a
warning:
here's!
D
A
D
C
I
feel
like,
though,
that
the
the
more
transparent
we
are
with
the
the
expectations,
then
the
easier
it
is
to
enforce,
because
it
kind
of
takes
away
the
fuzzy
it
takes
away.
The.
C
For
the
enforcement
team,
because
whoever's
looking
at
this,
like
you
agreed
that
you
read
this,
and
you
saw
that
if
you
use
this
kind
of
language,
this
is
my
probably
what's
gonna
happen.
If
someone
reports
it
so
like
it,
maybe
clarifies
that
the
shared
like
the
shared
construct
that
we're
all
understanding
instead
of
this,
like
more
fuzzy
kind
of
like
black
box
mystery
of,
what's
going
to
happen,
I
don't
know.
A
I
C
C
A
A
What
I'm
I
was
updating
the
notes,
and
so
I
said
next
steps
after
today's
edit
run
by
the
ei
audit
team,
refine
an
adjustment-
hopefully
somebody
typed,
that
I
typed
seekboard
and
then
it
suggested
approval.
Oh.
A
A
D
D
A
D
It
is,
I
mean,
I
think
this
came
up
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I'm
glad
katie's
on,
because
these
are
some
really
nice
ideas
from
katie.
I
I'd
like
to
to
to
kind
of
start
moving
forward
with
this,
and
so
we
had
talked
about
what
this,
what
project
badging
could
look
like,
and
we
understand
the
limitations
of
so
many
projects
so
few
reviewers
and
we
have
to
accept
that
challenge,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
had
come
up
in
that
last
meeting
was
maybe
even
just
chaos
passing
like.
D
Maybe
we
could
take
a
look
at
this
from
like
get
get
the
first
level
done
first
and
then
think
about
the
second
level.
Second,
and
then
maybe
the
third
level.
Third,
I
think
with
event
badging,
we
just
kind
of
went
all
in
where
every
badge
was
possible
through
the
process,
so
you
can
get
a
gold,
a
silver.
D
A
D
Yeah
and
we
don't
try
to
even
pretend
that
we
could
give
a
chaos
amazing
badge
for
a
project
to
start
does
just
to
the
that
distance
is
just
too
far
from
where
we're
at
at
the
moment,
and
so
I
think
this
might
have
to
be
scaled
up
a
little
bit
differently
than
event
badging.
That's
my
thought,
and
so
one
of
the
thoughts
was
that
came
up
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
chaos
passing
could
be
really
just
kind
of
confirming
that
there
is
a
code
of
conduct
and
kind
of
like
what
we
just
did.
D
You
know
a
description
of
this.
We
could
follow
whatever
it
might
be.
Like
scope,
enforcement,
you
know,
reporting,
you
know
the
particular
components
of
a
code
of
conduct
and
that's
clearly
identified
within
a
project,
and
then
some
sort
of
we
talked
about
like
a
dei
dot.
Md
file.
Do
you
remember
this?
Where
we
had,
we
have
project
metrics
and
it
would
be
a
document
within
a
project's
organization
or
within
you
know,
maybe
their
community
repo.
D
That
is
basically
in
it
attests
to
attention
to
metrics.
So
you
know
how
like
in
event
badging,
we
say
things
like
demographics,
speaker
and
attendee
demographics
and
like
how
it's
used
and
really
the
the
answer
to
that
usually
doesn't
come
from
the
website.
It
comes
from
a
response,
for
example,
wendy
gives
in
the
application-
and
we
read
her
response.
You
know
I'm
talking
about,
and
so
my
thought
was
is
that
the
dei.md
file
could
be
some
sort
of
a
testing
attestation
or
a
testing
to
attention
to
a
metric.
D
D
D
It's
you're
just
go
it's
just
right
there,
so
it
wouldn't
be
that
we,
as
part
of
the
review,
would
go
determine
whether
or
not
they
are
providing
good
issue
labels
to
promote
inclusivity.
We
would
really
just
be
looking
for
a
statement
that
says
how
they
are
addressing
issue
label
inclusivity.
Does
that
make
sense,
and
we
would
just
read
the
statement.
D
Yeah
board
council
diversity
like
it's,
not,
we
wouldn't
necessarily
go
check
it
as
part
of
the
review.
D
But
if
we're
a
project
and
we're
going
to
ask
for
a
chaos
dei
project
badge
here
are
the
two
things
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
make
sure
we
have
a
code
of
conduct
fully
accessible
to
everybody
and
we
have
to
make
sure
we
have
a
dei.md
file
in
our
community
repo
and
the
dei.md
file
has
a
couple
things
in
it.
H
H
So
a
couple
of
things,
one
something
I
learned
actually
this
last
week
it
a
convention
about
when
on
documentation
was,
if
you're,
if
we
do
this,
if
we
put
at
the
top
of
it
of
the
application
like
you
will
need
these
before
you
apply
for
this,
you
will
need
these
two
things,
so
they
only
have
to
leave
once
and
then
they
come
back
and
they
finish
the
whole
thing,
so
they
don't
start
and
stop
in
the
middle
of
a
document
right
and
then,
and
that
will
get
more
users
to
come
back
and
not
just
put
a
tab
on
their
bar
and
forget
about
it
for
four
weeks.
H
The
other
thing
was:
if
we
have
a
template
document,
is
that
we?
I
know
we
discussed
that
a
couple
weeks
ago.
We
would,
it
would
be
a
template.
Okay,.
H
A
B
D
B
Yeah
I
had
to
suggest
so
I
think
something
like
we
might
want
to
do
during
the
planning
phase
of
this
is
put
out
the
survey
to
learn
how
projects
say
they
are
like
how
they
put
it
out
there
that
they
are.
You
know
their
project
is
diverse
and
exclusive.
I
want
to
learn
how
projects
do
that.
So,
when
we
we
might
get
some.
You
know
good
information
when
we're
trying
to
plan
this
as
well.
C
You
just
something
for
us
to
consider
is
how
we
would
address
questions
from
projects
and
like
where
would
we
send
them
like?
Would
we
have
them
just
join
the
chaos
community?
Is
there
like
a
separate
place
for
them
to
ask
questions
like
our
discourse
or
some
other
way?
C
I
just
think
we
should
put
that
somewhere
on
our
radar
of
like
we
need
to
have
a
clear
place
for
them
to
engage
with
us
for
questions,
or
you
know,
feedback
whatever,
so
that
it
so
that
the
rest
of
the
community
doesn't
quite
get
the
noise,
because
I
could
see
that
we
would
get
you
know
maybe
a
lot,
a
lot
of
engagement
from
people
so.
H
D
C
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
the
best
place
then,
if,
if
it
just
goes
through
an
issue.
D
Okay,
that
was
my
thought
that
we
would
just
do
the
same
process.
Okay,
a
little
bit.
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
bit
lighter
weight
than
the
event
badging
one,
but
that
was
my
thought,
but
they
would
still
have
to
apply
via
the
way
they
apply.
Now
there
would
still
be
a
whole
kickoff
of
this
has
come
in.
We
need
to
assign
reviewers
okay.
C
D
Got
it
and
then
elizabeth,
I
was
going
to
say,
like
with
respect
to
the
dei
event
badging,
even
though
the
issues
are
kind
of
unique
and
siloed
per
each
particular
event.
D
C
C
A
D
Okay:
this
is
really
helpful,
I'll
kind
of
think
about
this
for
next
week,
based
on
this
list
and
think
about
maybe
what
the
next
best
next
steps
could
be
without
just
overwhelming
everybody
as
well.
You
know,
so
it's
not.
I
don't
think
the
goal
is
to
implement
this
within
the
next
month
or
anything
no
faster
is
worse.
I
think
in
this
case
I
think
so
too,.
A
Okay,
well,
that
actually
kind
of
brings
us
to
time.
So
I
think
we
got
through
all
the
items.
Is
there
anything
else
that
folks
want
to
add
before
we
tidy
up
and
end
this
discussion?
This
wonderful
meeting
that
we
have.