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A
All
right
welcome
to
the
wednesday
april,
7th
dei
community
call
or
dei
chaos
call
the
minutes
are
in
the
chat.
So
if
you
could
add
yourself
that
would
be
wonderful
and
tell
us
how
you're
feeling
today.
A
B
C
Just
the
day,
no
because
the
let's
see
now
I
have
to
look
it
up.
C
A
B
My
daughter
said
that
her
social
studies
teacher
was
encouraging
them
all
to
vote
and
she's
like
this
doesn't
make
sense
for
only
14
and
I'm
like.
Apparently
somebody
hasn't
seen
the
breakfast
club
because
there's
a
scene
for
those
of
you
who
don't
recall
where
anthony
j,
anthony
michael
hall's
character
has
a
fake
id
and
judd
nelson's
character.
Is
why
and
and
the
geek
is
like,
so
I
can
vote.
C
A
A
All
right
so,
as
we
get
started,
congratulations
to
ruth.
She
got
nominated
for
a
google
open
source
gift
box
for
her
contributions
to
chaos,
way
to
go
ruth.
A
E
A
B
A
F
Right
well,
first,
I
have
to
follow
my
sword.
I
sent
matt
and
and
the
badging
team,
an
apology
for
yesterday,
so
hopefully,
matt
and
team
saw
that,
but
I'd
I'd
be.
I
was
quickly
checking
my
calendar.
Yes,
I
I
put
my
name
down.
A
Great
and
we're
always
there
to
support
and
help,
as
you
know
so
so
sean
this
is
a
small
agenda.
Yeah
I'm
put
together
if
you
wanna
yeah.
B
I'm
I'm
going
through
my
zoom
I
like
to
share
the
the
like
I
like
to
share
my
browser,
but
it's
like.
Where
is
my
browser.
B
B
E
B
Hit
reload
because
it
it
gave
me
a
weird
message,
so
maybe
okay
yeah
this
is
apparently
I
had
cash
that
says
the
air.
Okay
sean.
Would
you
like
me
to
take
over
yeah?
It's
like
I've
never
had
this
problem
before
I
don't
know.
If
somebody
probably
we've
updated
the
updates
and
let's
see
if
it
works
one
more
time.
A
B
Okay,
now
yeah,
I
think
I
think
I'm
in
these
chaos
spreadsheets
so
off.
Google
reset
something
last
night
where,
like
all
my
accounts
logged
out
and
none
of
my
cash
gmail's
are
working,
it's
like
my
computer,
didn't
change
at
all,
so
maybe
I'm
just
recaching
everything
so
facilitator
for
next
week,
so
badging,
who
wants
to
talk
about
badging?
We
have
that.
I
think
this
is
the
badging
program
right.
B
Right
but
sometimes
I
forget,
which
item
of
debate
for
the
name
we
landed
on,
so
it's
initiative
got
it.
G
So
I
can
talk
on
badging
a
little
bit
we
had
like,
like
we
mostly
know
now,
the
massive
influx
of
badging
review
requests.
We've
had
we
actually
so
we've
been
looking
for
ad
hoc
reviewers.
It
looks
like
we
got
as
many
people
as
we
could
possibly
want
for
this
ad
hoc
system
and
hopefully
keep
some
of
those
people
on
for
reviewers
for
the
project
because
it
looks
like
we
may
have
more
applications
coming
in
soon.
G
G
So
it's
about
half
and
half
and
we're
finishing
up
the
a
bunch
of
them
right
now.
So
on
events
is
there.
I
don't
know
who
wrote
this,
but
there
this
looks
like
there's
been
some
some
specific
things
to
talk
about.
A
Program
yeah,
so
I
think
you
know
going
through
this
process.
This
is
specific
to
this.
This
working
group
right
the
process
has
revealed
a
number
of
different
things
that
I
think
have
both
been
helpful
from
the
people
doing
the
submissions.
So,
for
example,
when
whenever
the
half
a
dozen
events
came
in
right,
there
was
a
concern
that
the
organizer
wouldn't
be
able
to
respond
to
issues.
A
You
know
right
as
12
events
are
being
badged.
There
was
concern
that
there
would
be
a
as
all
questions
are
coming
back
from
the
issues,
but
I
think
that
actually
worked
really
really
well.
So
I
was
happy
to
see
that
I
think
matt
as
you
had
talked
about
with
respect
to
to
the
number
of
reviewers.
G
A
B
A
A
I
did
a
great
job
yeah,
and
so
this
is,
I
mean
that
was
really
great,
because
that
was
like
in
five
days
time
to
try
to
get.
You
know
what
maybe
10
additional.
I
don't
know
how
many
additional
reviewers
came
on.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
who's,
not
on
this
call.
Thank
you
to
matt
for
helping
kind
of
facilitate.
All
of
that.
A
There
are
a
few
things
that
I
think
came
up
one.
So
this
is
the
first
one
with
respect
to
badge
was
mine,
so
I've
been
taking
a
look
at
the
events
that
are
badged
and
just
kind
of
seeing
how
they
display
it.
Just
out
of
curiosity
right
so
like
is
it
up
front?
Is
it
down
low?
Is
it
on
a
dni
page,
and
do
we
care
about
that
at
all
so
should
do
we
want
to
provide
any
guidance
as
to
what
to
do
with
the
badge
and
maybe
text
associated
with
the
badge?
A
A
B
I
think
that's
good,
I
think
some
kind
of
badge
that
shows
up
on
github
is
better
because
it
gets
more
developer
eyes
than
a
website.
B
So
it's
it
creates
understanding
that
this
dni
badge
is
a
thing
for
a
much
larger
audience,
and
I
don't
know
if
we'd
want
to
badge
it
basically,
maybe
give
them
a
stage
of
event
badging
current
or,
and
that
would
be
the
badge.
B
B
B
So
if
the
maintainers
of
a
repository
participate
in
a
conference,
I'm
just
thinking
of
where
the
developers
are
looking
and
trying
to
create
greater
awareness
of
what
dni
is,
if
it's
on
the
website,
then
awareness
is
limited
to
the
times
that
people
go
to
that
website.
If
there's
something
we
can
put
in
their
github
repository
because
there's
a
lot
of
badging
and
a
lot
of
these
get
over,
but
we're
not
badging
the
projects,
we're
badging
the
event
right.
G
This
may
be
relevant
for
project
badging
too,
though,
and
in
events
that
I've
seen
events
that
are
focused
out
of
github
for
some,
I
think
so.
What
I
can
say
to
this
is
that
we
provide
a
a
markdown
embedded
link
so
that
you
can
put
place
it
in
any
markdown
document
and
it
should
it'll
display
the
badge
and
link
back
to
the
original
issue.
We
also
do
that
with
an
svg
and
a
high
quality
png
just
for
the
image
itself.
G
These
are
the
formats
that
we
provide
to
them
right
now.
We
just
kind
of
leave
it
up
to
the
event
organizers
to
how
they're
going
to
display
that
badge.
B
F
Do
we
instruct
them
on
how
to
talk
about
the
badge.
E
F
Yeah,
I
kind
of
ran
into
it
when
I
was
doing
it
for
berlin
buzzwords
the
the
social
trial,
and
then
you
know
going
through.
I
kind
of
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
time
around
going
through
the
the
application
it
was
when
we
were
talking
about
the
consistency
of
reviews
and
and
and
and
figuring
out,
okay.
F
How
would
you,
how
would
you
say
this
in
a
tweet
or
what
would
you
say
on
the
social
tile?
And
I
the
reason
I
ask:
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
asking
the
question.
The
other.
One,
though,
is
to
enable
or
empower
the
folks
who
are
or
the
event
and
the
event
organizers
who
have
achieved
this
badge
to
allow
them
to
talk
about
it.
You
know
maybe
giving
them
some
words
to
use
around
it
or
to
basically
enable
them.
You
know.
F
If
we
want
to
increase
visibility
of
the
badging
initiative,
then
it
would
be
great
to
for
for
us
as
the
chaos
project,
not
just
to
promote
that,
but
to
enable
them
the
organizers,
to
promote
that
as
well,
because
that's
the
the
the
perspective
I'm
having
this
morning
anyway,.
A
That
makes
sense,
so
I'm
capturing
a
few
things
here.
So
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
would
just
be
like
suggestions
right,
they're,
just
guidance,
so
right
here
here
would
be
a
social
tile
that
you
could
use
in
the
promotion
of
the
event.
That's
associated
with
the
badge
here
is
perhaps
some
text
to
include
on
the
web
page
associated
with
the
event
the
badge
and
then
sean
to
your
point.
Maybe
encourage
placement
on
the
website,
as
well
as
any
event
associated
repositories.
B
B
B
B
You
know
thing
that
we
care
about
in
open
source,
and
I
think,
if
there's
something
in
a
repo
that
gives
you
a
much
like
a
exponentially
greater
exposure
than
if
it's
on
event
website
that,
once
the
event
is
over
is
never
visited
again.
B
B
You
know
it
could
be
whatever
our
badge
says:
2021
and
or
current
whatever.
We
want
it
to
be,
and
then
that
badge
so
now
everybody
who
visits
that
repo
sees
that
badge
and
that's
thousands
of
people
visiting
that
repo
for
years
after
at
least
a
year
after
the
event
itself.
B
Now
you
have
more
people
who
are
likely
to
have
some
curiosity.
Maybe
it's
a
hundred.
Maybe
it's
ten
to
see
what
is
that
badge
and
then,
if
we
have
a
link
in
the
issue,
that
tells
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
badging
program,
you're
you're,
giving
thousands
more
people
and
on
a
global
scale,
tens
or
hundreds
of
thousands
of
more
people
a
way
to
learn
more
about
diversity
and
inclusion
in
open
source
through
the
magic
program
and.
A
B
Like
yeah,
so
github.com
just
go
chaos.
This
is
I'm
fixing
something.
So
this
is
gonna.
Look
like
not
awesome,
badging
wise,
but
because
I've
got
two
failing
builds
but
they're,
failing
because
the
data
they're
not
really
failing
so
auger,
has
build,
failing
or
build
success.
You
know
build
passing
for
two
branches
and
then
a
see
a
linux
foundation,
cia
best
practices
badge,
and
so
when
people
look
at
a
repo
or
they're
exploring
a
repo,
and
they
want
to
understand
it.
B
Have
some
curiosity
and
learn
more
about
diversity,
inclusion,
badging
and
what
that
means
in
open
source,
and
I
think
that
has
a
lot
of
positive
effects
for
promoting
some
of
the
things
the
dni
working
group
is
long
work
to
promote
and
also
raising
you
know,
creating
larger
awareness
that
that
dni
is
part
of
a
thing
in
open
source
in
general.
B
So
I'm
I'm
looking
at
a
marketing
value
more
than
anything
else,.
G
So
this
leads
me
to
believe
we
have
we've
been
badging,
it
eventually
project
badging
and
we
have
right
now
we
have
one
badge
that
has
a
chaos
circle.
It
says
dni
and
says
their
level
of
badge.
The
problem
there
is
that
they
they
could
pass
that
off
as
a
like.
They
could
just
put
the
badge
on
there
and
say:
chaos,
dna
and
you
wouldn't
know
what
kind
of
badge
it
is.
That
leads
me
to
believe
that
we
need
to
start
doing
something
a
little
more
reasonable,
reasonably
full.
G
With
the
badging
standard
like
like
something
like
following
ims:
open
badges
before
we
can
start
to
ask
people
to
cross
pollinate
their
badges
from
from
from
repo
to
event
or
event
to
repo.
B
Yeah-
and
I
was
thinking
even
if
it
was
event-
if
so,
if
the
word
event
was
in
the
badge,
you
know
dna
event.
F
G
Bring
that
up
at
next
week's
badging
meeting
8
30
central
every
every
wednesday.
If
anybody
wants
to
come
I'll,
give
you
details
if
you
want.
A
Yeah
cool
matt-
I
might
also
recommend-
and
this
I
think,
is
tied
to
this-
like
a
reconsideration
of
the
image-
it's
so
small,
sometimes
on
pages
that
I
had
seen
and
it
it
also
only
has
the
chaos
this
is
branding
again,
but
it
only
has
the
chaos
circle
like
I'd
love,
to
see
the
chaos,
the
entire
chaos
name
in
that
badge.
G
A
So
on
this
list,
the
other
thing
that
had
come
up
during
the
review
process
was
with
respect
to
speaker,
demographics,
and
I
actually
think
ruth
you
were
talking
about
this
earlier
in
the
call
before
we
started.
Recording
so
matt.
Do
you
have
thoughts
so
we've
updated
the
speaker,
demographics
metric
to
be
more
deliberate,
with
respect
to
how
selection
committees
are
created
and
how
keynotes
are
selected.
A
G
Yes,
we
have
so
we
have
some
updates
that,
before
the
freeze
for
the
review
process,
I'm
going
to
share
the
poll
here.
G
It's
pull
request,
number
69
and
we've
got
this
pull
request
where
we're
kind
of
walking
back
on
the
asking
events
for
now
to
to
display
these
demographics,
because
a
lot
of
time
they
there's
a
lot
of
situations
where
they
can't
have
them
or
they
don't
have
them
until
the
event
is
right
up
to
the
event
or
after
the
event
and
and
then
so,
we're
moving
that
to
requesting
feedback
from
speakers
and
we're
just
removing
it
from
the
attendee
demographic
section.
But
overall
we
don't
want
to.
G
We
want
to
add
these
things
to
the
to
the
demographic
section
we
just
have
to
be
careful
like
this
is
a
situation
with
with
cubicon
and
the
co-located
events
where
we
had
to.
We
have
to
stop.
We
have
to
postpone
our
our
review
process
updates
our
launch
basically
for
this
next
review,
because
we
have
this
lapse
of
like
we
have
to
assign
some
reviews,
and
so
so
we're
we're
stuck
right
now,
where
we
can't
change
it.
A
G
To
be
honest,
that
would
be
part
of
some
kind
of
interim
update
as
we
have,
as
we
have
between
application
cycles.
Basically,
but
yeah.
A
A
A
Like
I
don't
imagine
a
lot
of
these
I've
never
seen
a
conference
as
anybody
that
explicitly
states
how
this
is
done,
like
the
you
know
like
when
we're
doing
chaos
con
right.
So
if
we're
trying
to
to
be
conscious
of
dei
as
we're
saying
doing,
agenda
setting,
I've
never
seen
a
conference
say
this
is
how
we
ensure
that
the
agenda
is
also
equitable
to
all
attendees.
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
that
has
anybody
seen
that
something
like
that.
A
Like
explicitly
stated
on
a
conference
website
that
it's
equitable
yeah
so
like
right,
this
had
come
up
that
sometimes
like
dei
talks
are
kind
of
put
into
a
dei
track,
and
it's
just
like
kind
of
marginalized
in
the
conference
as
its
own
thing
like
dei,
is
not
necessarily
centered
in
the
conference
or
the
keynotes
are
all
white
guys
right.
When
you
look
so
there
was
like
no
they're
all
the
invited
speakers,
and
so
there
was
no
real
attention
to
keynote
selection,
and
so
this
is
all
with
respect
to
speaker.
F
Yeah
it'd
be
interesting.
I
want
to
ask
amy
if
she
has
seen
anything
over
on
the
openstack
side.
What
I
started
to
notice
was
that
the
openstack
community
was
doing
a
phenomenal
job
of
at
least
from
a
gender
perspective
of
of
women
keynoting
being
on
the
keynote
stage
at
openstack
summits,
but
whether
it
was
ever
spelled
out
in
the
way
that
you're
talking
about
this
is
how
we
select
the.
A
C
I
don't
get
on
the
event
website,
but
I
have
seen
a
lot
of
conferences,
write
blog
posts
about
how
they
ran
the
process
and
what
they
did,
and
you
know
like
the
process
they
use
like
there's.
A
blog
post,
oops
from
from
devops
doe
upstairs
london,
which
I
was
involved
in,
was
something
that
we
we
cared
a
lot
about
inclusivity
and
it
wasn't
just
around
the
cfp,
but
it
was
around
like
like
lots
of
stuff
here,
I'll
drop
it
into
the
chat.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
remember,
I
think
we
had
some
of
it
posted
on
the
website
itself,
but
the
way
devops
days
works
is
once
the
cfp
is
over
and
done
like
the
speaker's
page
replaces
it.
So
I
think
we
had
some
stuff
there
about
the
process.
A
Do
you
think
that,
during
the
review
like
say,
nicole's
doing
a
review
like
just
having
a
conversation
with
the
organizer
is
enough
to
kind
of
be
satisfied
with
that?
Or
would
it
be
something
that
we
might
ask
a
group
to
say:
hey,
listen!
If
you
want
to
get
this
check,
you
know
you
have
to
do
a
blog
post
or
you
have
to
post
it
on
the
web
and
what
people's
thoughts
are.
G
Honestly,
we
need
to
increase
the
difficulty
of
the
badge.
Everybody
so
far
has
been
gold,
and
I
want
to
see
some
some
passing
and
some
silver
so
that
people
have
stuff
to
work
on.
If
you
give
someone
gold,
that
should
be
the
point
where
they,
where
they
feel
like
they've,
got
most
of
it
down
at
least,
and
I
I
feel
like
we
need
to
make
it
just
harder
to
get
a
badge.
D
I
was
also
wondering
if
people
who
may
be
intimidated
by
the
process
and
think
that
they
may
not
get
a
gold
badge
so
they're
not
going
to
apply
because
they
don't
want
to
look
bad.
Since
you
know
it's
all
transparent
and
open,
and
they
don't
want
to
draw
any
attention
to
anything
that
they're
lacking.
So
that
was
just
a
thought
that
I
had.
I
wondered
if,
if
that
was
a
problem
or
not.
D
I
have
a
related
sort
of
related
question.
I
know
that
a
few
conferences
will
up
front
state
the
the
compensation
that
they
provide
to
speakers
if
they
pay
for
travel
or
if
they
pay
any
kind
of
stipend.
But
I've
also
seen
it
done
like
in
the
diversity
side
like
under
the
diversity
inclusion
page
they
talk
about,
you
know
how
they
want
to
make
it
accessible
to
be
a
speaker.
D
So
I
don't
is
that
something
we
ask
about
is
is
compensation
if
they're
compensating
their
speakers
and,
if
they're
paying
for
travel
and
if
they
state
that
stuff
out,
you
know
explicitly
on
the
website.
Do
we
ask
about
that?
I
don't
think
we
do.
E
D
E
D
I've
seen
it
on
numerous
yeah
if
they'll
sometimes
they'll
say
if
your
company
doesn't
pay,
because
some
companies
will
pay,
you
know
to
send
their
people
to
speak
at
conferences,
but
they'll
say:
if
your
company
doesn't
pay,
then
let
us
know,
and
we
will.
We
will
reimburse
you
or
we'll
compensate
you
for
your
travel
expenses.
F
Oh
sorry,
are
we
talking
about
compensating
just
speakers
who
were
there?
Are
we
talking
about
attendees
as
well.
D
D
B
Acm
does
some
of
that
for
the
academic
work
that
I
do
so
it's
not
unprecedented,
but
might
not
be
that's
why
I
was
asking
about
resources
for
that
in
open
source,
because
I
didn't
hadn't
heard
of
it.
So.
F
Yeah
the
reason
I
was
asking
the
question
is
that
and
so
is:
is
it
kubecon
or
kubacon
and
maybe
don
yeah.
C
Very
influential
bloggers,
like
alex
williams
from
the
new
stack
everybody
at
the
new
stack,
says
cubicon,
but
it's
wrong.
F
Cool,
so
I
was
gonna
mention
kubecon's
diversity,
scholarship
fund
right,
so
they
do
make
compensation.
You
know
for
for
a
10
now
some
of
those
could
actually
be
speakers
like,
but
for.
D
Attendees,
sorry,
that
was
off
tangent
a
little,
but
I
think
that's
it's
interesting
to
find
out
about,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
can't
afford
to
speak
at
a
conference
pay
for
their
own
travel
and
you
know
and
then
take
time
off
work
and
all
of
that
so
I
think
that's
really
important
if,
if
a
conference
is
able
to
do
it,
so
something
we
might
want
to
ask
about
the
future.
I
don't.
A
I
put
it
down
in
the
in
the
minutes
like
under
a
possible
new
metric
for
travel,
support,
all
right,
and
then
actually.
This
is
kind
of
interesting,
because
the
last
thing
that
I
had
with
with
respect
to
badging
is
that
all
a
lot
of
maybe
90
of
the
events
that
have
applied
so
far
are
coming
from
pretty
well
financially
supported
corners
of
the
open
source
world.
A
A
A
Right
right
and
they're
really
trying
very
hard
to
center
dei
in
their
event,
but
they
just
simply
cannot
provide
yeah
yeah
ask
for
sometimes
so
just
but
maybe
two
that's
to
the
to
the
batching
point
like
I
think
it's
80
of
like
things
accomplished,
can
get
you
a
gold
badge.
So
that's
that's!
Okay,
right
like
it's
not
like,
it
has
to
be
everything.
So
maybe
that's
still.
Okay,.
G
A
A
Yeah
yep
cool,
so
I
had
just
dropped
in
a
few
other
things.
The
dei
update.
You
know,
I'm
just
slowly
going
through
the
repository
and
the
website.
It's
at
this
point.
It's
basically,
as
I
see
things,
I'm
updating
dni
to
dei,
so
I
just
saw
another
one
that
all
like
in
the
metric
side
of
things.
So
it's
kind
of
ad
hoc
at
the.
D
Moment,
hey
matt
on
that
just
real.
E
D
I
tried
to
change
the
meeting
itself,
but
I
I
don't
have
the
capability
to
do
that.
I
think
georg
has
to
do
that.
D
B
A
All
right,
I
just
I
was
looking
back
at
some
of
the
other
other
things
from
the
last
meetings.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
back
to
the
top
for
oss,
eu
and
nicole
ruth
and
matt
are
all
on
this
call,
which
is
awesome.
You
had
talked
about
submitting
or
putting
together
a
document.
Do
you
remember
what
I
don't
remember
what
this
was
about?
So
do
you
remember
what
it
was
about.
B
And
keep
hitting
my
keyboard?
That's
why
the
meetings
keep
the
minutes,
keep
scrolling.
F
And
I
mean
now
I'm
having,
if
I
don't
know
if
I
had
these
ideas
before
or
now,
but
you
know
with
with
all
of
the
applications
coming
in
and
and
all
of
this
and
we've
got.
You
know
folks
who
have
received
or
events
that
have
received
gold
now
and
all
of
that
it
just
seemed
like
there
was
a
groundswell
of
things
to
talk
about
in
the
badging
initiative.
G
With
badging
we're
doing
a
a
talk
at
the
ieee
essay
open
marketing
advisor
group
about
about
badging
and
metrics
and
how
you
meld
those
together,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
thing
to
talk
about
if
we
had
the
opportunity
we'll
talk
about
it
offline
but
like
I
think
we
we
have
a
lot
of
really
good
ideas
about
things
to
talk
about,
so
we'll
have
to
narrow
it
down
to
one.
G
E
I
can
actually
start
working
on
it
so
because
of
I
had
like
a
very
scattered
week
last
week,
so
I
can,
I
actually
forgot,
so
I
can
actually
start
working
on
that
next
week,
since
we
have
to
like
june
13th,
then
there
was
a
time
that
there
was
a
suggestion
about
ethanol,
so
I
think
yeah.
I
don't
know
about
that.
I
think
that
the
suggestion
was
about
a
panel
right
from
yeah.
E
A
A
F
Know
all
right.
A
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
Does
everybody
recall
this
when
you're
doing
reviews
like
I
don't
know
if,
if
we
should
have
this
as
its
own
metric,
if
this
is
something
that
we
should
not
necessarily
have?
I
know
this
isn't
governance
right
now,
it's
necessarily
with
events.
We
have
code
of
conduct
events
as
a
metric,
so
I
was
just
wondering.
B
B
A
Yep-
and
we
do
ask
this
in
the
review
process,
so
it's
kind
of
right
now,
it's
kind
of
tucked
into
code
of
conduct
at
an
event
right
so
is
it?
Is
it
worth
making
its
own
metric
or
is
it
probably
or
is
it
smarter
just
to
look
at
the
code
of
conduct
metric
and
explicitly
talk
about
enforcement
and
we
don't
pull
it
out
as
its
own
metric
so
and
I
put.