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CHAOSS.D&I.April.1.2019
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We
had
discussed
not
doing
the
same
panel
that
we
just
did
leadership
submitting
and
we
already
did
tutorial
in
Edinburgh,
so
I
maybe
can
do
a
more
normal
presentation.
I,
like
the
format
that
Nicole
and
Sarah
had
where
they
played
ping-pong
going
back
and
forth
when
they
presented
in
a
MOSFET
as
the
leadership
side.
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The
processes
mean,
as
a
you
know,
sort
of
standing
in
the
shadows
person
for
DNI
the
the
processes
that
you've
characterized
for
getting
data
from
conferences
and
other
venues
would
be
helpful
for
the
community.
I
think:
that's
that's
something
that
people
don't
do
routinely
or
necessarily
know
where
to
start
with.
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know
what
you
think.
Don
tell
me
if
I'm
talking
about
in
the,
but
here
no.
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I
think
that
would
be
I
think
that
would
be
useful,
I
think.
Maybe
we
could
you
know
we
are
at
the
point
where
we
have
a
lot
of
the
metrics
defined
we
could.
We
could
pick
some
of
them
and
and
kind
of,
and
talk
about,
a
variety
of
the
metrics
and
how
you
would
gather
them
and
give
people
some
some
pointers
that
way
and
then
and
then
maybe
we
could.
We
could
also
talk
at
least
briefly
about
some
of
the
some
of
the
work.
That's
been
done,
so
we
would
have.
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Maybe
it's
how
to
build
a
DNI
report
for
your
for
your
open
source
project.
Might
be
might
be
a
good
way
to
do
it
because
we
could
talk
about.
We
could
talk
about
the
metrics
in
the
context
of
putting
them
into
in
job
report.
How
would
you
measure
them?
How
would
you
report
on
them
and
then
we
have
a
couple
of
examples
of
reports
from
OpenStack
and
maybe
something
else
that
might
be.
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Muted,
if
we
pitch
it,
is
how
to
build
a
DNI
report,
then
the
first
like
three
quarters
of
it
would
be
more
on
the
process
side
and
more
on
the
metric
side
and
then
but
it's
nice
to
have
a
couple
of
examples
towards
the
end.
Even
if
you
don't
spend
a
ton
of
time
talking
about
them,
but
really
here's
here's
how
it
was
done
for
OpenStack
and
here's
a
link
to
that
report.
You
can
here's
how
we
did
it
for
whatever
else
yeah.
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So
we
we
probably
needed
okay
from
from
her
for
sure,
since
that's
a
pretty
significant
change,
we
can
actually
I
mean
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
usually
the
type
of
changes
that
you
th.
Whatever
was
made.
We're
spacing
underscores,
so
those
are
typically
considered
trivial
changes
and
we
wouldn't
necessarily
I,
don't
think-
have
to
get
the
OK
from
her,
because
those
weren't
of
any
sort
of
substantial
nature,
whereas
contributing
an
entire
document,
would
be.
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When
we
get
her
consent,
it's
all
good.
If
not,
then
we'll
have
to
remove
her
contribution
and
move
forward.
I
would
just
like
to
move
forward
with
this,
because,
as
we
are
delaying
this,
any
new
contribution
is
still
made
under
the
GPL.
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snake
not
MIT
license,
so
I
would
really
like
to
look
forward.
I
would.
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Okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
100
issue.
120,
the
mentorship
metric
I
put
the
link
in
the
chat
and
Sara
had
started
working
on
this
two
weeks
ago.
Again
and
Daniel
and
I
worked
on
it
last
week
now
put
on
the
agenda
so
that
we
can
have
a
little
working
session.
We
did
this
a
while
ago,
where
we
review
and
edit
this
year
on
the
call
to
get
it
into
a
state
where
we
can
then
create
a
pull
request
and
move
this
forward.
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That
sounds
good
Georg.
Do
you
just
want
us
to
add?
Get
in
line,
I
mean
I'm,
noticing
there
isn't
a
track
changes.
You
just
want
us
to
add
things.
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Sort
of
think
the
first
question
is
actually
a
subset
of.
The
second
question
is
how
effective
our
mentorship
programs
are,
and
I
added
out
increasing
diversity
and
inclusion
in
our
project,
just
to
be
clear
that
that's
that's
the
part
we're
focused
on
and
this
work
group,
and
it
seems
like
the
breadth
of
the
programs.
I,
don't
know
that
does
that
matter
if,
if
our
programs
are
effective,
so
if
I'm,
if
we
had
a
mentorship
program,
it
only
had
one
thing,
but
that
one
thing
was
super
effective
at
increasing
diversity
and
inclusion.
Would
that
be
okay?
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Like
I'm,
sorry,
I
know,
I
haven't
read
my
email
or
that
on
the
last
two
meeting,
so
I
feel
sorry
guilty,
even
even
talking
about
this,
but
is
there
so.
My
understanding
is
that
this
is
kind
of
the
requirements
for
how
to
pilot
the
DNI
metrics
is
that
is
that
true?
What's
that
what
this
is
designed
to
do?
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So
then,
my
my
follow-up
question
would
be.
Should
we
really
do
this
on
a
kind
of
a
focus
area
by
focus
area
basis,
so
this
this
one
looks
like
it's
just
for
leadership.
The
leadership
focus
area,
but
it
seems
to
me
like:
do
we
really
need
one
of
these
for
every
single
focus
area,
or
should
we
put
together
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
high-level
that
covers
kind
of
a
whole?
The
whole
thing.
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But
so
in
Emma's
original
reply,
she
had
suggested
that
when
we've
worked
with
projects
to
pilot
the
DNI
metrics,
to
not
say
here
is
all
the
metrics.
We
have
pick
and
choose
whatever
you
want,
but
that
be
specialized
and
saying
these
are
the
metrics
that
be
a
most
developed
and
that
we
are
ready
to
start
piloting
and
then
to
offer
like
a
small
package
with
three
metrics
large
package,
with
six
and
extra-large
with
twelve
metrics
or
something
or
different
focus
areas.
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And
Georg
I
I
guess
I'm
fighting
it
a
little
confusing
too,
because
I
guess,
because
I'm
I'm
reading
the
link
above
in
in
Emma's
dog
and
I
I
guess
I
wasn't
I
didn't
know
that
the
two
were
related
I'm.
What.
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Yeah,
for
some
reason,
my
interpretation
with
with
was
different
and
I
thought
that
we
would
be
getting
to
these
releases,
whether
you
know
these
periodic
releases,
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metrics,
the
entire
chaos
project
and
that,
at
a
particular
point
in
time,
the
peace
with
this
Cadence's
releases
that
we
would
then
surface
those
metrics
within
the
DNI
work
group
that
we
wanted
to
release
as
metrics.
For
that
particular
relief
in
the
overall
chaos
project.
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I
don't
think
it's
is
related
the
when
I'm.
When
we
talk
about
pilot,
you
know
when
I
talk
about
piloting,
I'm
talking
about
having
project
starting
to
use,
DNI
metrics
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
regular
chaos
releasing
metrics
and
DNI
deciding
on
which
metrics
to
include
in
a
release
that
to
me
is
separate.
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And
so
is
this
discussion
in
in
this
bullet
item
talking
about
what
would
what
would
be
the
as
we
decide
which
metrics
we're
working
on
that
we
want
to
include
in
the
releases
in
the
chaos
project
releases
and
what
the
requirements
for
including
those
metrics
are?
If
that
sorry,
that
was
kind
of
convoluted
I.