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A
There
we
go.
This
is
welcome
to
the
february
3rd
chaos.
Dni,
maybe
soon
to
be
dei
meeting
today.
Is
we
have
the
opportunity
to
facilitate
by
committee
that
sound
amazing,
so
elizabeth?
Take
it
away.
C
The
announcement
of
kidding,
I'm
just
kidding
so
let's
talk
about
this
change
to
dei,
I'm
not
sure
what
I
was
involved
in
that
how
we
feel
about
that.
I
think
we
had
pretty
pretty
heavy
consensus
last
time
when
we
briefly
brought
it
up.
C
So
do
we
want
to
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
more
justin
says
dei
question
mark,
so
that
would
be
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
so
just
kind
of
including
that
piece
of
it,
which
seems
to
be
kind
of
the
way
that
people
are
thinking
about
these
issues
nowadays.
So
I
think
that
it's
it's
relevant
and
I'm
personally
behind
it
100,
but
we
can
absolutely
chat
about
that
for
a
minute
or
longer
than
a
minute,
because
it's
kind
of
a
big
thing.
So
what
do
y'all
think
about
it?.
D
D
F
Equity,
you
know
when
you
mentioned
it
yesterday
on
what
were
I
think
it
was
the
badging
call.
I
then
started
to
see
it
many
many
places
and
started
to
pick
up
on
it
it.
It
seems
to
be
the
way
that
I
don't
want
to
say
gosh.
This
is
this
is
not
good
to
say
it
this
way,
I
I
don't
want
to
say
a
trend,
but
it
seems
like
there's
a.
F
I
can't
remember
where
I
saw
it
but
to
give
examples,
but
I
I
started
to
then
notice
it
quite
a
bit.
I'm
quickly
trying
to
look
up,
I'm
god
in
spanish.
D
D
But
I
don't
know
what
the
a
is
and
that,
and
that's
really
is
kind
of
sad
when
we
have
to
think
of
what
the
letters
what
other
connotations
the
words
have
but
welcome
to
2021.
So
idea
is
a
good
one.
If
we
can
figure
out
what
the
a
is
well,
that
would
be
good
for
us,
because
we
do
a
lot
of
accessibility.
A
G
Yeah,
I
just
a
lot
of
people,
ask
what
the
e
means,
and
although
we
know
it
means
equity,
they
kind
of
figure,
try
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
it
means
in
relation
to
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
so
I
just
put
that
little
excerpt
in
there
that
I
found
online.
So
we
can
kind
of
see
why
it
fits
in
the
equation
and
why
people
are
going
towards
instead
of
just
dni
dei,
so
that
it's
more
inclusive
of
the
role
diversity
as
well.
A
H
But
that
perspective
on
this
is
yeah.
I
guess
I
like
I
like,
adding
the
equity
into
it
and
dei
I
still
kind
of
group
that
with
dni,
I
just
feel
like
idea.
I
just
know,
there's
so
many
acronyms
that
people
love
to
use
for
that
and
can
get
really
confusing
and,
from
my
perspective,
I'd
rather
be
more
clear
and
direct
about
what
we're
doing
and
like
we
could.
H
We
could
probably
come
up
with
10
words
of
things
that
we
all
look
at
and
do,
and
they
probably
would
be
accurate,
but
I'd
rather
be
as
clear
and
recognizable
as
we
can
and
because
also
the
other
piece
of
this
is.
We
also
need
to
go
and
think
about.
Where
have
we
written
like
I'm,
okay
with
changing
the
name,
but
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
where
all
the
places
we've
written
d
and
I
working
group.
Where
do
we
need
to
update
this
to
be
consistent?
H
Than
what
the,
what
the
exact
acronym
is,
but
I
like
dei,
I
think
equity
is
also
like
emily
said.
I
think
it's
equity
is
a
very.
It
means
it
has
a
very
clear
definition
to
me.
So
I
like
I'm
fine
with
including
that
as
a
word,
but
I'd
maybe
like
to
just
limit
it
there
just
so
we
don't
just
so.
People
could
still
make
make
sure
we're
not
losing
people
and
like
what
is
this
acronym.
Yet
another
acronym,
I
don't
know
and.
A
D
That
necessarily
mean
a
name
change
scope.
Yes,
I'm
just
playing
devil's
advocate
because.
D
We
have
to
find
everywhere
and
replace
it
everywhere,
and
everyone
knows
the
group,
as
and
renaming
things
like
we
just
went
through
with
the
open
infra
foundation
is
not
always
easy,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it
for
the
right
reasons
that
we
know
what
it's
going
to
entail
and
that
we
do
pick
the
right
thing.
If
we're
going
to
change.
E
I
I
have.
I
have
ideas,
opinions
I
guess
on
this
too.
Is
that
like
we're
as
as
a
dni
working
group
at
chaos,
we're
doing
our
best
to
like
we're
a
group
that
helps
teach
other
people
how
to
understand
dna
in
their
organization
event
project
whatever
and
we
are-
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
names
for
a
long
time,
but
I
think
that
we
just
need
to
have
something,
that's
easy
to
understand
and
captures
as
much
as
possible
while
still
being
easy
to
understand.
E
I
think
di's
and
that's
dei,
isn't
that
spot
that's
hard
for
me
to
say,
but
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
be
it's
like,
if
you're
a
social
studies
teacher,
you
got
to
make
sure
you
have
your
ethics
in
check
and
understand
that
really
well,
it's
like
we.
We
need
to
understand
what
we're
changing
the
name
to
and
why
we're
doing
it
and
then
how
we're
going
to
go
about
doing
that.
If
we
do
that,
I
think
those
are
the
two
important
things
there.
C
C
We
also
care
about
this
issue
and
we
care
about
what
effect
that
has
in
open
source
and
I'm
kind
of
like
matt
like
I
kept
seeing
it
everywhere,
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
also
a
signal
that
it's
important
to
other
people,
and
I
don't
I
feel
like
if
we
want
to
as
matt
snell
said
if
we
want
to
be
kind
of
seen
as
not
on
the
cutting
edge.
That's
not
really.
C
You
know
the
right
terminology,
but
if
we
want
to
signal
to
our
community
that
we
are
current
and
that
we
are
paying
attention
to
how
this
space
is
evolving,
I
think
that
adding
the
e
and
signaling
to
our
community
that
the
equity
piece
of
it
is
also
very
important
and
as
equally
as
important
as
as
the
others
in
in
again,
in
whatever
way
that
manifests
through
our
metrics.
So
just
my
two
cents,
I
think
for
me
personally.
C
The
name
change
is,
is
a
lot
of
work,
but,
like
that's
a
solvable
problem
like
that's
not
hard,
it's
just
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
think
that's
an
easier
thing
than
saying.
Oh,
it's
it's
too
much
work.
Let's
just
leave
that
out
and
then
feeling
like
we're
being.
You
know
like
not
keeping
up
with
you
know
what
what
the
the
culture
demands
and
and
where
they
are
so
just
my
two
cents.
F
Elizabeth,
I
really
agree
with
with
what
you've
just
said
so
plus
one
for
me.
If
we
do
change
it,
I
would
for
all
of
what
you
just
said.
I
would
actually
like
to
see
us
go
with
the
idea
name
because
it
does.
E
So,
okay
at
sensor
group
facilitating
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here
and
facilitate
for
a
second
and
say
so
we
need
consensus
on.
This
is
what
it
sounds
like
and
how
are
we
going
to
go
about
doing
that?
Do
we
need?
What
I
put
in
here
is:
do
we
need
to
vote,
and
there
is?
Is
there
an
option
at
this
point
not
to
change
into
something
else,
but
I
think
yeah
a
poll,
a
vote,
something
like
that:
yeah
yeah
definitely
justin.
We
do.
E
D
D
A
H
A
D
D
D
A
A
So
george,
we
were
just
just
to
fill
you
in
at
the
tail
end
of
this
conversation
talking
about
dni
and
perhaps
changing
the
name
to
dei.
A
A
I
guess
at
least
in
my
my
my
comment
on
that
is
that
I
certainly
see
dei
more
often
right
now
in
the
world.
I
think,
maybe
to
justin's
point.
I
think
this
is
the
idea
could
be
a
very
difficult
acronym
to
identify
with
the
term
idea.
H
A
Yeah,
I'm
thinking
it's
partly
as
to
elizabeth's
point
kind
of
being
consistent.
What
is
out
in
the
world
as
well
so-
and
then
I
wondered,
is
accessibility-
is
that
how
do
we
have
that
covered
at
the
moment?
A
A
Okay
and
whoever
is
taking
notes,
thank
you
so.
A
A
E
Yeah,
so
if
you
look
on
that
link
there,
if
you'd
like
you,
can
see
that
our
on
our
badging
list,
we've
awarded
our
third
badge
third
gold
badge
also
and
let's
see
so
it
was
for
a
linux
foundation-
event
called
cdcon.
It
is
from
a
repeat
offender.
As
far
as
someone
that
has
come
back,
I
guess
that's
not
a
good
term
for
it,
but
someone
that
has
come
back
after
a
review
and
submitted
another
event,
and
we
we
may
we're
thinking,
because
we
have
like
four
viewers
that
are
that
are
like
that.
E
We
can
bring
in
for
reviews
right
now,
so
we're
thinking.
We
may
need
some
more
viewers
for
the
project.
It's
a
relatively
small
time
commitment,
like
maybe
20,
minutes
per
comment
at
most,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
poke
on
that
I'll,
send
out
the
reviewer
sign
up
sheet.
I'll
put
it
in
here
now
and
just
excited
to
see
how
this
is
turning
out.
C
Hey
matt,
we
talked
matt
snell.
We
talked
a
little
bit
last
time
about
adding
that
as
a
volunteer
opportunity.
Is
that
something
that
you
still
think
would
be
of
merit?
Or
do
you
want
to
focus
on
this
group
for
volunteers
or
other
groups
that
we've
been
working
with,
or
do
you
want
to
open
it
to
everybody?
I
guess
that's
my
question
because
I
can
actually.
E
Do
the
newsletter
I'd
like
to
focus
on
on
on
this
group
for
reviewers,
but
I
think
we
could
open
it
to
the
chaos
community
as
well,
just
have
to
like
know
that
they
have
some
experience
with
dni
or
dei
or
idea
at
one
point
or
another,
and
and
can
talk
about
this
kind
of
thing
kind
of
understand
it
a
little
bit.
That's
what
the
application's
for,
though,.
C
Okay,
okay,
I
am
going
to
send
this
link
to
you.
If
you
can
do
me
a
favor
and
just
fill
this
format
form
out
matt.
That
would
be
great,
and
then
that
will
remind
me
to
put
it
in
the
newsletter.
E
Yeah,
it
sounds
great
and
also
just
to
note,
if
you're
a
little
nervous
about
getting
started
with
the
project,
and
you
know
much
about
it.
We,
like
our
onboarding
process,
is
very
personal.
It's
it's.
I
have
me
or
one
of
the
other
maintainers
as
a
meeting
with
you
and
walks
you
through
the
process
and
talks
about
what
you
need
to
do.
So
that's
that's
just
to
demystify
that
process
to
talk
about
what
goes
on
there.
That's
it.
A
Maybe
it's
worth
noting
too
that
as
part
of
the
review
process,
it's
a
lot
about
just
ensuring
that
in
this
case
an
event
has
an
event
code
of
conduct
and
it's
displayed
publicly.
I
mean
that's,
it's
really
not
about
kind
of
judging
the
merits
of
the
code
of
conduct
they
use
in
relation
to
the
event.
It's
it's
not
that
level
of
so
it's
that
former
or
with
respect
to
say,
diversity,
access
tickets
that
they
have
kind
of
a
clear
process
by.
A
If
that
was
something
on
the
table,
they
have
a
clear
process
by
which
diversity
access
tickets
can
be
requested
and
a
clear
description
of
how
they're
awarded
or
something
along
those
lines
right.
So
it's
really
just
about
trying
to
understand
that
the
events
are
taking
time
to
attend
to
these
particular
issues,
not
really
critiquing
the
kind
of
that
next
level.
It's
the
really
that
top
level
so
elizabeth.
That
might
be
important
to
somehow
articulate
in
the
in
the
request
for
help.
F
Okay,
that
would
that
I'm
thinking
that
would
also
be
good
in
the
outreach.
Here's
here's,
what
I'm
seeing
in
the
in
in
the
outreach
efforts
that
at
least
that
I
folks
that
I've
talked
to
or
that
we've
talked
to-
is
that
they're
wondering
apologies
for
the
background
noise,
we're
having
work
done
on
the
house
here.
F
I
I
don't
know
if
it,
if
others
who
are
on
that
call
if
it
came
through
for
you
like
that,
but
the
comcast
team,
I
think,
was
worried
about
the
time
and
resources
that
it
would
take
to
apply
for
a
badge
and
oh
great,
I'm
sorry
and
no
problem,
we're
also
katarina
upon
who
is
a
director
of
the
women
who
code
portland
is
is
also
reflected
that,
and
so,
if
we
have
an
estimate
of
you
know
it's
this
many
questions
or
it's.
F
It
might
help
us-
and
maybe
we
already
have-
that
and
and
I've
overlooked
it,
but
that
that
might
be
helpful
in
in
when
we
talk
to
these
folks
to
to
make
sure
that
that
they
know
it,
it
isn't
a
a
huge
time
sink
or
it's
not
a
ton
of
resources.
Or
you
know
that
kind
of
thing.
E
A
I'd
show
them
for
myself:
maybe
we
should.
We
could
do
kind
of
three
things.
One
is
to
reach
out
to
rachel.
I
think
it's
her
name
and
ask
how
long
how
much
time
it
did
take
the
other
is.
We
can
share
the
issues,
the
github
issues
that
are
the
application
process
with
people
if
they
just
want
to
look
at
the
amount
of
communication
that
occurs
so
like,
for
example,
this
is
the
most
recent.
F
F
Yeah,
this
is
great,
maybe
put
something
I'll
work
on
putting
something.
F
B
D
A
Yeah
and
thanks
nicole,
and
really
really
happy
about
the
the
badging
program,
our
initiative,
it's
really
cool
and
I
I'm
I
share
your
concern.
A
E
Oh
at
least
two-
I
guess
hopefully
two
or
more,
I
think,
the
more
the
merrier
as
long
as
you
don't
have
like
20
and
they're,
just
getting
bored
waiting
for
reviews
yeah,
I
think
anywhere
from
two
to
like
eight-
would
be
great.
C
A
All
right,
so
all
right,
so
we
have
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
issues
in
the
dni
repository,
so
I'll
post.
This
I've
actually
been
spending
a
little
bit
of
time.
A
A
These
are,
these
are
just
part
of
the
release
process,
so
those
these
candidate
items
will
go
away
once
the
release
is
done
and
the
release
notes
stay
in
there
forever,
because
these
are
just
release
notes
for
kevin,
as
he's
aggregating
metrics
from
the
different
working
groups,
a
lot
of
the
other
metrics
in
or
sorry
a
lot
of
the
other
issues
in
here
are
metric
ideas,
and
I
think
in
the
past
we
talked
about
simply
keeping
them
there.
A
There
are
a
couple
fairly
they're,
larger
issues,
and
this
actually
came
up.
The
chaos
front
end
components
on
the
website.
This
came
up
from
kevin,
who
does
website
maintenance
and
is
something
that
he
would
like
to
do
on
the
website.
So
this
is,
I
don't
know
it's
possible.
I
could
actually
move
these
out
of
here
and
into
the
website.
A
D
Yeah,
if
you
can
move
something
that
doesn't
belong
there
to
where
it
really
belongs
with,
you
know
in
saying
a
note:
you
know
that
this
isn't
really
a
dni
issue.
It
is
a
front-end
issue,
so
moving
over
to
here,
it
probably
got
put
in
there
because
it
was
visually
impaired
users,
yeah
accessibility,
but
not
realizing.
The
work
might
be
done
by
somebody
else.
A
C
I
think
that
kevin
probably
has
similar
issues
already
too
so.
Okay,.
A
Okay
sounds
good
all
right
so
honestly,
from
from
an
issue
perspective,
I
think
we're
doing
pretty
well
on
dni,
but
I
think
these
are
going
to
serve
kind
of
had
some
administrative
work
to
do
for
a
little
while
here,
but
I
think
at
some
point
when
we
start
really
getting
back
into
developing
metrics.
I
think
these
can
serve
as
a
great
starting
point
for
us
again.
A
A
Just
there
at
one
point,
there
was
a
reference
to
chat
service
and
the
request
was
to
change
it,
to
chat
platform
just
to
be
consistent,
everybody
all
right
with
that.
Let's
see
just
from
a
naming
printer
right.
So
thank
you
for
for
identifying
that
and
then
just
pointing
out
that
these
are
public
shared
chat
rooms.
There's
a
comment
there.
So
I
think
this
is
all
it's
fairly
low
overhead
on
pr.
So
if
somebody
wants
to.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you,
I'm
not
going
to
merge
my
own,
so
if
somebody
else
could
click
that
button,
that
would
be
super
cool.
All
right.
Look
at!
I
I
still
I'm
just
so
fascinated
that
that
happens
like
that.
So
every
time
I
don't
know
why.
A
A
A
B
Yeah,
I
saw
I
saw
the
notification
for
this
well
when
I
read
true
the
proposed
changes.
Was
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
connecting?
So
I
pretty
don't
know
what
to
say
and
also
I
think
the
reference
part
was
actually
mistakenly
removed.
So
I
think
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
reference
it
doesn't
like,
have
him
there's
nothing
on
the
reference
part
yeah?
B
B
A
Completely
fine,
and
so
I
mean,
if
you
think
that
it's
I
would
love
to
get
your
feedback
ruth
and
I
think
you've
said
it
here.
If
you
don't
feel
like
it's
really
maintaining
the
spirit
of
what
the
metric
is,
I
think
that's
completely
fair
to
say.
Perhaps
we.
B
B
I
think
lawrence
wanted
to
like
reduce
the
soviet
like
it
is.
Lauren
said
it
was
too
much.
I
think
that
was
the
initial
okay
idea
yeah.
I
think
that
was
it.
B
H
H
H
30,
it
was,
let
me
see
it
was
on
44.
44.,
okay,.
A
Gotcha
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
make
that
comment
here.
That'd
be
cool,
you
know
what
I
mean.
You
can
just
come
right
over
here
and
just
yeah
I'll.
Do
that
a
small
comment?
Great!
Thank
you
all
right.
So
that's
that's!
Where
we're
at
there
so
maintain
clear
and
I'm
back
to
the
minutes.
B
Yeah,
sorry,
I
went
off
for
a
second
but
for
the
issues
I
tried
to
like
put
in
like
three
of
the
metric
ideas,
so
we
can
maybe
start
with
that.
B
A
Gotcha,
okay!
Well,
why
don't
so
thank
you
for
doing
that,
ruth?
Why
don't
we
kind
of
if
somebody
could
take
these
and
move
them
into
the
agenda
for
next
week?
We
could
start
with
that
as
possible
metrics
to
start
looking
at
in
the
work
group.
Is
that
okay
with
folks
all
right?
A
Thank
you
all
right.
So
the
couple
getting
close
to
the
end
here.
A
So,
if
you
recall,
we
keep
bringing
this
up,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
taking
a
look
at
dni
within
the
chaos
project
and
working
with
external
people,
to
also
put
together
a
series
of
guides
that
other
communities
could
use
if
they
want
to
reflect
on
their
own
dni
internally,
and
I
going
through
the
issues.
This
is
why
you
keep
issues
that
you
realize,
because
they
have
great
ideas
in
them
from
a
long
time
ago.
Sometimes
so,
there's
an
issue.
A
A
You
know,
a
30-minute
activity,
kind
of
like
to
your
point,
nicole,
with
badging
right
like
this
is
a
relatively
short
activity
and
here's
a
way
to
move
through
the
activity
and
get
it
accomplished
within
your
community
and
emma
had
taken
a
kind
of
a
first
pass
at
what
a
metrics
toolkit
could
look
like
from
dni,
and
I
actually
think
this
is
a
really
cool
approach
towards
helping
other
communities
reflect
on
their
own.
Their
own
dni.
A
A
F
I
yeah
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
that
I
I
I
know
I
you
know
I
of
course
I
remember
all
of
the
work
that
emma
did
and
all
of
the
value
that
she
brought
to
this
group.
But
I
I
don't
know
that
I
was
familiar
with
these
toolkits
that
she
built
back
then,
but
these
are
really
I.
I
could
see
that
these
would
be
really.
A
A
But
like
quick
market
research,
you
know
they're
just
they're,
not
long,
they're,
very
approachable
in
terms
of
what
to
do
so
yeah.
This
is
cool
and
even
like
difficulty
in
the
number
of
people
that
would
need
to
be
involved
and
what
you
need
to
get
this
done.
I
just
I
love
them.
F
It
kind
of
brings
up
a
question
for
me
with
the
sddi
group
and
then
this
piece
how
those
pieces
fit
together.
A
And
it's
just
started
maybe
six
months
ago
four
months
ago,
not
a
long
time
ago,
and
a
couple
of
us
have
been
attending
those
meetings
as
well
and
so
there's
the
background
and
then
to
your
question.
I
don't
know
how
this,
how
these
efforts
look
yeah.
F
Right
yeah
right
because
because
I
I
haven't,
attended
the
meetings
yet
back
my
and
I
thought
gosh.
F
If
I
had
you
know
unlimited
time,
I
sure
would
like
to
to
get
to
one
of
those
but
yeah
that,
because
that
project,
my
my
thought
about
that
project
was,
it
was
really
kind
of
the
the
to
do
group
equivalent
of
of
surfacing
best
practices.
F
Almost
maybe
I'm
misunderstanding
there
a
bit,
but
you
know
so
it
would
be
basically
the
way
that
that
that
the
metrics
were
developing
would
one
way
that
they
would
see
be
put
into
action.
So
to
speak
and-
and
I'm
seeing
I
am
as
tool,
kids
as
as
another
way,
an
an
easy
way
to
essentially
take
what
is
in
the
these
metrics.
And
how
do
you
then
go
apply
them?
What
are
some
easy
things
to
do
within
your
own
communities
to
to
apply
these
to
your
community.
A
F
F
A
New
year,
okay,
all
right!
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
Nicole
last
last
comment:
I
don't
know
who
put
that
in
there
does
somebody
want
an
invite
to
to
be
in
the
github
org.
A
H
I
know
I'm
not
in
it,
so
I
can
put
my
github
there.
I
don't
know.
A
Yeah
yeah
no
problem
was
it
just
to
the
maybe
the
dni
repo.
H
A
H
Before
we
go,
you
have
to
tell
us
what
it
is.
What
is
it?
I
don't
know
it's
it's
uncle
iro
from
an
anime
avatar,
the
last
airbender
gotcha.
D
A
Awesome
well,
matt.
I
will
take
care
of
that
or
I'm
sorry
justin.
I
will
take
care
of
that
cool
all
right.
Everybody.
Thank
you
for
a
very
productive
and
very
thoughtful
50
minutes.
That
was
just
great.
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
everybody's
insight
and
everybody's
contributions
so
until
next
week
thank
you.