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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group, November 30, 2022
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A
Recording
and
start
the
live,
transcript
and
share
my
screen.
All
sorts
of
things
right
so
welcome
everybody.
If
you
could
add
yourself,
that
would
be
great
in
the
last
story.
You
did
with
a
thousand
Euro
pillows.
Did
they
go
like
to
the
foot
of
the
bed
almost.
B
A
A
Let
me
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
Progressive
and
it's
like
it's
just
totally
knocking
on
on
grown-ups,
and
there
is
one
where
he's
standing
in
front
of
a
sofa
in
this.
This
lady
has
like
a
thousand
throw
pillows
on
the
sofa
and
he's
like
nope
nope.
You
don't
need
those
and
you
could
she's
like
or
like
her
heart's
breaking
as
he's
getting
rid
of
all
the
throat.
B
A
Well,
that's
great
well
welcome.
We
now
know
about
throw
pillows
in
Elizabeth,
so
welcome
back.
We
did
have
a
short
break
last
week,
so
hopefully
everybody
had
a
nice,
a
nice
break.
Just
as
a
note
on
this
video
I
think
we
all
know
here,
but
we
are
going
to
be
taking
a
longer.
Break
so
looks
like
we'll
have
maybe
a
couple
more
Dei
working
group
meetings.
I,
don't
know.
C
A
Week
will
be
the
last
one
okay,
so
next
week
will
be
the
last
one,
and
then
we
go
on
break
for
about
a
month
just
to
give
everybody
some
time
to
attend
to
any
burnout
that
people
might
be
having
that
said,
as
we
said
in
the
community
meeting
yesterday,
there'll
still
be
work.
We
can
just
work
on
slack
if
we
need
to
have
any
ad
hoc
meetings.
A
That's
obviously
completely
fine,
but
hopefully
you
can
enjoy
just
a
little
bit
of
time,
all
right
and
then
January
11th
there's
a
new,
the
next
newcomers,
onboarding
meeting
Elizabeth.
You
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
that
is.
B
Sure
so,
basically,
that's
just
one
way,
not
not
necessarily
one
way,
but
mostly
just
like
a
presentation.
Kind
of
mode,
as
opposed
to
most
of
our
meetings,
are
a
lot
more
interactive.
It
is
more
of
a
presentation
mode,
but
it
kind
of
goes
over
who
chaos
is
what
we're
about
how
we
came
to
be
what
the
different
pieces
of
chaos
are,
because
there's
a
lot
that
that's
going
on
in
chaos,
so
it's
kind
of
hard
to
wrap
your
head
around
it
for
newcomers.
B
So
we
just
take
about
45
minutes
and
do
that
and
we
do
leave
space
for
Q,
a
of
course
and
myself,
the
community
manager
and
then
Ruth
ikiga.
Who
is
the
chaos
Africa
community
lead?
We
usually
host
those
sessions.
They
are
recorded
too
so,
if
anybody's
new
and
they
miss
that
no
problem
at
all
that'll
be
up
on
our
YouTube
channel
right.
A
On
thank
you
that
sounds
good
and
when's.
The
next
office
hours,
foreign.
B
Next
week
will
be
the
last
one
on
Tuesdays
they're
a
little
bit
before
the
community
meeting,
so
they
are
at
9
A.M
U.S
Central
on
Tuesday
Mornings
here
in
the
US
and
those
are
an
hour-long,
just
come
and
go
as
you
want
just
pop
in
and
ask
whatever
questions
you
have.
If
you
need
more
explanation
on
anything
at
all,
that's
why
that's
a
great
place
to
do
that,
it's
extremely
casual
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
end
up
just
talking
about
whatever
random
things
we
want
to
talk
about.
B
A
A
So
yesterday,
I
had
kind
of
brought
up
thinking
about
different
stages
that
newcomers
might
be
in,
and
I
tried
to
I'm
trying
to
keep
this
like
simple
and
accessible
for
people
and
also
accessible
for
like
the
folks
of
us
that
are
on
this
call,
who
are
experienced
community
members,
so
that
it's
not
a
lot
of
work
as
well,
but
it
provides
a
nice
path
for
people
who
are
newcomers
like
things
that
we
could
tell
them
so
I
I
was
just
trying
I
reduced
it
to
three.
We
had
called
this.
A
A
So
when
somebody
is
brand
new,
we
consider
them
in
a
state
of
inquiry,
or
you
know
state
of
exploring
and
what
we
do
is
we
encourage
them
to
come
to
open
Office
hours,
like
that's,
you
know
so
like
if
they
join
on
Slack
and
they're,
like
hey
I'm,
completely
new
here
we
say
why
don't
you
just
come
to
office
hours
just
show
up
there,
and,
and
we
can
help
you
to
kind
of
talk
through
the
different
working
groups
that
we
have
or
the
different.
A
You
know
the
things
that
you
would
talk
about
in
office
hours
and
I'm
I'm
sure
that
would
fit
with
office
hours,
but
that,
like
you,
can
kind
of
just
explain
these
types
of
things
all
right,
and
so
then,
after
the
thought
is,
is
that
after
participating
in
office
hours,
they
would
get
an
idea
of
what
working
groups
might
be
of
interest
to
them.
So
it
could
be
the
Dei
working
group.
A
It
could
be
the
risk
working
group,
it
could
be
participating
in
events
whatever
it
might
be,
but
they
have
a
particular
interest
that
they
get
by
understanding
what
is
in
front
of
them
with
respect
to
office
hours
oh
and
like
Elizabeth
like
as
this
in
the
office
hours,
you
can
point
them
to
it.
This
way,
you
can
point
them
to
things
like
there's
a
slack
channel
for
this
working
group
too,
and
here's
the
time
we
were
here
and
so
then
participating
would
move
again.
A
Total
example
here
participating
would
say:
hey
we
encourage
you
to
join
the
working
group
for
four
times
in
a
row
like
actually
put
it
on
your
calendar
and
attend
a
working
group
four
times
in
a
row,
so
that
could
be
a
month
because
some
of
some
of
the
working
groups
meet,
and
that
could
be
every
two
weeks
because
some
of
the
working
groups
meet
every
other
week.
A
So
just
it's
like
just
trying
to
set
up
a
Cadence
for
a
new
member
if
they
have
something
on
their
calendar,
they
know
that
they're
going
to
participate
in
it.
You
know
what
I
mean,
or
at
least
attend
it
and
I.
Think
my
thought
with
four
times
in
a
row,
is
that
over
that
period
there
will
be
action
items
that
come
up
in
one
of
those
four
across
those
four
meetings
and
it's
kind
of
it's
like
going
to
office
hours,
identifying
a
working
group
attending
a
working
group
for
a
while
identifying
an
action
item.
A
So
it's
kind
of
like
this,
this
set
of
things
and
then
contributing
over
the
course
of
those
four
weeks
offering
to
be
part
of
an
action
item
in
the
working
group
that
you're
attending
and
it
could
be
like
again
helping
organize
an
event.
It
could
be
helping
put
together
a
metric.
It
could
be
thinking
through
this
list
that
we're
talking
about
right
here.
It
could
be
anything
but
just
kind
of
you
know
open
up,
speak
like
speak
up
or
type
up
or
whatever
it
might
be.
A
I
also
see
that
there's
the
risk
working
group
and
I'm
guessing
it
functions,
kind
of
the
same.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
I
might
want
to
join
the
risk
working
group
as
well,
so
just
trying
to
to
locate
a
person
in
a
particular
place.
I
could
do
you
have
any
feedback
or
thoughts
on
something
like
this
or
comments.
C
Another
thing
that
Elizabeth
and
I
discussed
during
the
communications
meeting,
which
wasn't
actually
much
of
a
Communications
meeting,
is,
is
the
idea
of
if
we
could
make
it
easy
for
people
to
figure
out
just
how
to
create
a
metric
like
for
folks
who
want
to
measure
something
and
formalize
it
just
having
a
process
where
you
know
it's,
let's
say,
participating
in
the
working
group
is
is
a
form
of
Engagement
that
some
people
will
be
suited
for
and-
and
they
may
actually
do
that,
but
then,
if
they
want
to
create
a
metric
sort
of
make
it
easy
like
pick
a
working
group
where
you
think
it
fits
here's
the
template
and
then
propose
it
as
an
issue
in
that
working
group
and
come
to
the
meeting
and
then
walk
them
through
the
rest
of
the
process
of
creating
that
metric
I.
C
Think
I
think
that
sometimes
our
metric
creation
process
gets
a
little
a
lot
of
steps.
It
gets
a
little
overwhelming
and
bureaucratic
even
for
people
who
have
done
it
for
a
while,
and
so
that
might
that's
sort
of.
In
addition
to
what
you're
suggesting.
A
A
C
Yeah
yeah,
no
I,
think
you're
right,
I,
think
you're
right
I'm,
adding
some
of
the
I
agree.
I,
agree,
I,
think
some
of
some
of
the
audience
might
be
some
of
the
folks
already
engaged
who
just
want
to
create
a
metric
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it's
like
a
very
clearly.
It's
not
like
a
I,
wouldn't
characterize
it.
How
characterize
it
as
well
documented
and
regimented,
but
I
wouldn't
characteristize
it
as
something
that's
easy
to
follow.
D
I
want
to
also
in
terms
of
people
just
contributing
metrics
or
looking
to
do
that
remember.
We
are
also
reaching
out
on
the
Dei
side
and
trying
to
get
input
from
the
external
community
on
message,
so
we
might
be
getting
people
who
want
to
contribute
some
sort
of
a
measure
from
the
external
community
that
when
we
were
trying
to
go
outside
and
get
things
that
weren't
chaos,
member
biased
and
find
other
groups.
D
Oh
when
when
was
that
discussed,
it
was
like
two
months
ago,
I.
D
E
We
have
got
some
really
good
insights
from
persons
that
are
aware
of
the
chaos
metrics,
which
is
good
progress,
and
while
some
persons
are
still
not
aware
of
it
so
like
completely,
they
were
given
an
idea
of
trying
to
get
persons
on
board
with
metrics
I
think
we
have
to
give
them
an
overall
decision
of
what
the
metrics
are,
which
specific
metric
go
with,
which
working
group
and
all
of
that,
because
most
persons
have
zero
idea
about
the
chaos
community
and
our
metrics
in
the
first
place.
C
A
So
could
I?
Is
it
okay
to
keep
these
as
two
separate,
but
related
things
like
the
creation
of
a
metric
is
kind
of
a
very
specific
thing.
I.
A
lot
of
what
this
is
about
is
watching
the
newcomer
channel
on
slack
and
people
are
just
like
hey
I'm,
new
and
I
want
to
participate,
which
is
awesome,
but
we
don't
have
a
real
like
set
of
things
to
do
that
are
just
super
practical.
C
B
B
Here
are
some
action
items
you
can
take
on
your
own
time
whenever
you
want
that
will
help
you
kind
of
acclimate
yourself
to
our
community
and
get
you
to
the
point
where
you
feel
like
you
can
participate,
and
then
we
want
to
get
you
to
the
point
where
you
feel
like
you
can
actually
contribute.
So
I
really
love
this
idea
of
giving
them
action
items
yeah.
A
A
Resonating
all
right,
Anita
yeah.
E
I
said
this
action
item
to
be
good
like
to
exist
in
that
Community
handbook.
So
whenever
we're
handing
out
the
community
handbook,
we
know
that
we
have
everything
there
is
to
know
about,
kills
and
getting
on
board
foreign.
C
Yeah
I
was
just
thinking
back
to
the
community
meeting
yesterday
and
that
that
newcomer
tagging
system,
where,
if
there's
a
task
that
isn't,
is
an
open
issue
that
we
have
folks
that
say
we'll
help
you
with
this.
We'll
walk
you
through
it.
If
you
want
to
contribute
like
a
real
I
thought,
that
was
a
really
supportive
good
idea,
and
apparently
it
didn't
make
the
notes
from
yesterday.
C
So
you've
got
to
find
the
link
in
my
history,
but
again
that's
additive
to
what
you're
saying.
Okay,
it's
like
it's
like
along
the
same
lines.
There
are.
There
are
some
things
that
we
can
do
to
make
it
easier
to
help.
People
find
something
to
do
for
example,
and
know
that
they'll
be
supported
in
in
the
doing.
E
Yeah
I
think
we
can
also
like
at
this
point,
indicate
persons
I
know
we
already
have
like
the
new
commas
call
that
does
this,
but
some
persons
feel
more
comfortable
having
one-on-one
calls
with
members
in
the
community
that
they
can
ask
certain
questions
that
they
might
not
be
asking
the
new
Commerce
code.
So
at
this
point,
where
they're
ready
to
start
contributing
and
don't
know
how
to
do
that,
we
cannot
say
reach
out
this
individual
or
reach
out
to
this
individual.
If
you
have
any
additional
questions
in
these
areas
or
something
like
that,.
A
Yes,
we
most
certainly
could,
and
maybe
that
could
be
part
of
so
let
me
hold
that
thought
so,
the
one
let
me
put
it
in
here
before
I
forget
so
like.
B
I
think
so
we
also
have
that
teams
spreadsheet
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
on
the
community
handbook
that
lists
all
the
different
teams
at
chaos
like
not
just
working
groups,
but
also
things
like
you
know
the
badging
initiative
and
like
all
the
different
teams
and
then
on
that
spreadsheet
does
have
a
contact
person.
B
So
we
can
easily
Point
people
to
that,
and
it
also
that
spreadsheet
kind
of
gives
an
idea
of
what
kinds
of
contributions
usually
happen
in
that
meeting
or
in
the
on
that
team.
So,
if
someone's
like
wants
to
do
software,
for
instance,
well,
here's
auger
worker,
more
lab
or
here's
also
the
badging
bot
or
other.
You
know
badging,
like
so
they're,
so
we've
kind
of
tried
to
provide
a
little
more
context
for
folks
as
well
regarding
like
what
kind
of
skills
they
have
and
what
their
interests
are.
Okay,.
A
B
Think
that
teams
spreadsheet
yes,
their
shoya-
has
linked
to
it
there
in
the
chat.
I
think
that's
a
really
helpful
resource
and
we
can
build
that
out
as
we
go.
That
was
that
thing
that
we
just
met
you
and
Ruth
and
I
just
kind
of
started
like
a
brain
dump,
and
so
it
will.
It
will
evolve
and
like
become
more
robust,
I
think
as
we
go,
but
it's
a
good
starting
point.
So.
E
A
Spreadsheet
right
away
would
could
we
tell
them
to
check
it
out
like
when
they
come
to
office
hours
like?
Would
that
be
I'm
just
trying
to
do
like
the
the
simplest
thing?
You
know
what
I
mean,
because
as
soon
as
we're
like
check
out
check
out
all
the
working
group
repositories
and
check
out
the
spreadsheet
and
like
then
people
are
it's
like
wow,
like
yeah.
B
A
Just
one
so
like,
if
somebody
comes
into
the
slack
Channel
and
like
hi
I'm
new
I'd
love
to
contribute,
all
we
would
say
is
awesome
awesome
to
have
you
here.
Please
attend
office
hours
and
or
the
monthly
onboarding
call
to
start
like
just
go
there
like
your
brand
and
that's
full
stop
on
kind
of
starting
this
inquiry
exploring
and
then
once
they're
in
the
office
hours.
That's
where
they
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
and
talk
to
other
people,
and
you
can
get
a
like
Point
them
to
hey.
These
are
the
working
groups.
A
We
have
hey.
Here's
our
like
the
task
list
that
we
have.
You
know
the
to-do
list
like
we
have
a
variety
of
things
that
you
can
start
thinking
about,
but
it's
it's
more
verbalized
to
people
in
the
office
hours
and
you
may
end
up
just
kind
of
saying
the
same
thing
over
and
over
in
in
office
hours
like
you.
E
B
I'm,
just
thinking
and
I
would
really
like
to
hear
and
I
don't
think
Ruth
is
on
the
call
or
any
of
the
and
like
Tori
I,
think
you're
you're
newish
here,
maybe
is
that.
Is
that
enough,
like
I'm
just
thinking
if
I'm
excited
to
join
a
project
and
then
like
the
only
thing
I
can
do,
is
just
wait
till
that
office
hours
comes
around
like?
Is
that
gonna
squash,
my
momentum,
or
is
that
enough?
B
D
What?
What
about?
Because
you
do
want
to
keep
that
momentum
going
when
you
have
somebody
in
usually,
and
you
don't
want
to
tell
them
they
can't.
B
D
A
while
what
about
we
get
have
it
so
that
someone
is
interacting
with
the
channel
I
say
we
have
regular,
onboarding
or
office
calls
on
these
dates.
But
in
the
meantime,
if
you
have
questions-
or
you
would
like
us
to
walk
you
through
a
project,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
one
of
these
people.
We
have
a
list
of
people
who
might
agree
to
be
onboarding
mentors
or
something
of
the
sort,
like
welcoming
committee
type
of
thing,
like
we'd
love,
to
show
you
the
progress.
B
C
I
mean
I
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
we
think
we
have
a
I
think
that
the
proposed
plan
of
having
these
newcomer
meetings
is
good,
I
think
I
think
finding
a
way
to
like
one
I
guess.
One
vague
concern
I
have
is
what
about
the
people
who
don't
have
time
to
go
to
a
meeting
or
for
whom
those
meetings
are
An,
Inconvenient,
time
zone
area
and
and
so
I
I
in
so
not
anything.
C
I
think
this
is
all
great
I'm,
just
thinking
also
about
what
are
the
things
that
I
think
Katie's
thinking
along
the
same
lines.
What
are
the
things
we
can
do
for
helping
people
that
can't
make
those
meetings
or
aren't
able
to
be
there.
B
Do
you
think
that
the
watching
the
onboarding
video
would
be
good
I
mean
that
does
give
a
broader.
C
Yeah
I
think
yeah
I
haven't
watched.
It
myself
is.
B
But
the
the
regular
meeting
I
think
that
well,
actually
it
might
be
I'll
have
to
look
but.
B
Month,
so
what
we
record
every
month,
so
they
could,
you
know
essentially
go
back
and
just
at
any
of
them
would.
D
We
I
would
put
a
link
to
the
recorded
onboarding
videos
if
you
joined
and
you're
excited
to
join
us.
Please
take
a
look
at
yeah
previous
month's
onboarding
and
reach
out
to
someone
on
this
list
of
people.
If
you
have
other
questions
in
the
meantime
before
our
next
onboarding
session
or
office
hours.
B
Yeah,
actually
I
just
looked,
it
is
pinned,
that's
pinned.
The
handbook
is
pinned
and
also
well
a
piece
of
the
handbook
general
terms
we
use,
and
then
we
also
pinned
a
brief
info
on
all
the
working
groups
and
what
they
do.
So
those
things
are
all
pinned
to
the
channel,
but
I
don't
know
that
everybody
even
looks
at
that.
I,
never
even
think
to
look
at
the
pin
stuff
to
be
perfectly
Frank,
so
yeah
we
might
have
to
make
it
more
obvious.
Yeah.
D
Oh
I
see
interacting
with
anything
like
once
a
week.
Here's
our
featured
on
this
week
or
here's
our
featured
Pro
tip
for
new
people
joining
here's
our
suggested
path
of
contribution
or
suggested
path
of
involvement.
Just
once
a
week
having
a
you
can
have
canned
posts
because
they're
not
going
to
be
in
the
newcomers
channel
for
very
long.
D
So
you
would
only
expect
people
to
be
following
the
newcomers
Channel,
probably
for
the
first
month
until
they
get
into
their
first
set
of
meetings
and
then
they'll
mute
it.
So
you
could
have
a
rotating
can
set
that
we
just
posted
one
a
week
and
rotate
every
five
weeks
or
every
six
weeks
or
something.
D
A
Is
this
is
great,
so
it
kind
of
it
sounds
like
from
what
I'm
hearing
that
that
encouraging
people
to
join
the
office
hours
or
the
onboarding
call
in
person
is
a
that's
a
good
first
step
and
then
also
an
automated
response
or
a
human
response,
like
maybe
once
a
week
in
the
slack
Channel,
that's
like
if
you'd
rather
kind
of
get
started
sooner
than
waiting
for
one
of
these
meetings
go
ahead
and
and
take
a
look
at
the
current
onboarding.
E
A
A
D
Then
my
key
coach
is
to
have
like
the
onboarding
section.
Have
a
list
of
we
can
get
a
list
of
tips
like
it
in
the
in
the
meeting
minutes
for
the
main
call.
We
could
ask
next
time
list
your
name
and
the
number
one
tip
you
would
have
for
somebody
joining
chaos,
so
we
have
a
list
of
those
from
people
just
by
them.
Coming
to
the
meeting.
That's.
A
E
D
A
D
A
I
get
it
you're
being
sneaky,
I
love
it
all
right.
This
is
great,
so
maybe
we
could
just
start
here
and
then
we
think
you
know
and
then
Elizabeth.
If
you
have
people
joining
the
the
onboarding
session,
like
we
could
kind
of
just
see
how
that
goes
and
like,
if
you're
feeling,
confident
that
you're
able
to
help
people
or
whomever's
in
that
onboarding
or
the
open
the
office
hours.
I
guess
I
should
say,
but
you
feel
like
you're,
confident
in
helping
Point
people
in
directions
that
they
might
care
about.
A
That
might
be
just
a
great
first
step
and
then
and
then
we
could
revisit
this,
like
whatever
you
know
that,
whether
it's
four
times
in
a
row
or
whatever
it
might
be.
A
That's
just
trying
to
encourage
that
ongoing
participation
in
something
a
little
bit
more
local
within
the
project
because
to
Katie's
Point
yeah
I
mean
we.
We
ultimately
want
to
move
them
out
of
the
newcomers.
Channel
like
we
don't
like
leave
that
channel
after
a
month,
because
you're
in
the
the
WG
risk
Channel.
Now,
that's
because
that's
where
you
followed.
D
In
the
in
the
newcomers,
Channel
one
thing
that
I
discovered
was
when
I
joined
the
chaos
slack
I
was
like
okay,
what
channels
can
I
join
and
what
should
I
join
yeah
yeah
having
in
there
here's
a
list
of
our
our
channels?
If
you
want
to
start
exploring.
A
A
Okay,
but
like
that
could
also
be
like
to
your
point
Katie
like
if
somebody's
in
the
office
hours,
like
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
think
could
be
discussed
in
those
office
hours,
is
like
you're
interested
in
the
EI.
Like
here's
the
meeting
time,
here's
the
slack
channel
that
you
might
want
to
join
and
here's
the
GitHub
repository
that
you
might
want
to
start
just.
E
A
D
Oh,
you
want
to
get
involved
with
the
project
here
that
list
that
you
did
the
like
new
participating
that
something
like
that
on
there
and
then
maybe,
as
you're
doing
the
these
sections,
we
encourage
you
to
and
then
have
a
list
of
like
explore
the
slack
channels
in
the
participating
and
the
first
one
watch
some
of
our
previous
onboarding
videos
chat
with
current
members
in
the
newcomers
Channel
and
because
that
would
be
something
good
to
have
on
the
site.
So
when.
D
A
But
then,
if
we
hit
like
it
would
have
been
like
it
would
be
cool
like
the
more
we
talk
through
this,
the
more
I'm
kind
of
liking.
This
because,
like
if
you're
interested
in
again
Dei,
the
pointers
can
be
like
you
know,
from
a
Computing
like
a
channel
computer
Channel
perspective
like
lock
into
this
meeting
on
Zoom
block
into
this
channel
on
slack
and
lock
into
this
repository
and
GitHub.
Those
three
things
should
give
you
pretty
good
coverage
as
to
how
that
particular
working
group
does
their
work.
A
You
know
and
and
we're
all
I
think
we're
pretty
consistent
for
all
of
our
working
groups.
Now
like
they
all
have
a
channel.
They
all
have
a
GitHub
repository
and
they
all
have
a
regular
meeting
time,
and
so
we
can
just
so
like
Elizabeth
in
the
office.
Hours
were
like
so
you're
interested
in
this
topic,
just
lock
into
these
three
things
and
hang
out
for
four
weeks
or
whatever
it
might
be.
Just
don't
worry
about
making
contributing
a
metric
in
the
first
week.
Don't
don't
worry
about
that?
Just
listen
because
action
items
will
come
up.
A
They
just
inevitably
do
and
that's
when
I
I
think
you
can
start
identifying
those
action
items
so.
B
Also
just
want
to
quickly
say
anybody.
Anybody
in
the
chaos
community
that
is
you
know
at
any
stage,
are
welcome
to
join
those
open,
Office
hours
like
if
you
just
want
to
pop
in
and
see
what's
happening.
If
you
want
to
pop
in
and
help
out,
you
know
chatting
with
newcomers
like
it
was
super
helpful
to
have
Sean
there
yesterday,
not
putting
on
the
spot
Sean.
B
In
contributing
code
and
talking
about
auger
and
so
I
think
God
Sean
was
there
and
he
could
really
do
a
deep
dive
yeah.
You
know
because
he
they
were
matching
his
energy
like
they
were.
They
were
with
it.
So
that
was
extremely
helpful,
because
I
don't
know
that
I
would
have
been
able
to
speak
to
that.
C
Level
yeah
I've
been
I've,
been
coming
to
those
whenever
I
can,
which
is
most
of
the
time
just
because
a
lot
of
the
newcomers
are
looking
to
make
software
contributions
and
I
know
that
that
that's
I
can
speak
to
that.
A
A
The
the
project
as
a
giant
hole
right
so,
like
those
are
the
office
hours.
Those
are
the
identifier
working
groups
like
just
as
project
as
a
whole
and
then
what
I'm
seeing
down
here,
which
is
really
interesting
and
contributing
it's
almost
like.
We
have
to
sort
of
like
redo
this
so
now,
you're
part
of
risk,
like
here's
or
you're
part
of
Dei
like
here,
are
the
things
that
are
available
to
you
in
this
smaller
subset
of
the
project.
C
So
well,
and
and
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
I
I
guess,
one
of
the
sort
of
overriding
ideas
was
that
when
people
are
struggling
like
they
want
to
measure
something,
and
they
don't
know
really
where
they
want
to
go,
they
can
explore
a
little
bit.
But
you
know,
let's
say
somebody
gets
really
active
in
evolution
and
they've
got
a
metric
that
could
fit
in
three
different
working
groups.
You
know
what,
let's?
C
Let's
guide
you
through
doing
that
in
the
working
group
that
you're
already
in-
and
you
know
as
long
as
it
fits
approximately,
don't
worry
less
about
which
working
groups
and
let
people
choose
those
working
groups
for
where
they
put
the
metrics,
because
we've
now
on
the
website
successfully
we're
almost
successfully
separated
the
working
groups
from
how
we
present
the
metrics
right.
We
really
have,
which
is
good.
Yeah
I,
think
that
was
a
really
critical
step.
So
yeah.
B
So
Matt,
are
you
saying
we
should
almost
have
like
an
onboarding
call
for
a
participating
level
and
maybe
a
call
for
contributing
level
of
where,
like
people
could
show
up
and
be
like?
Okay,
I've
been
going
like,
regardless
of
what
working
group
they're
in,
come
to
the
participating
office
hours
and
we'll
help
you
figure
out
like
exactly
what
you
what
you
want
to
do
next
or
like
what
your
path
is.
That
kind
of
a
thing.
A
Yes,
and
so
the
the
first
couple
are
just
like
trying
to
to
help
Orient
people
to
the
particular
in
this.
Just
we'll
just
say,
the
working
groups
that
they're
interested
in
or
working
group,
but
then
like
to
what
Katie
had
talked
about
earlier,
was
like
you
know
how
we
have
the
like.
What
was
your
first?
What
tour
did
you
do
today
or
how
you
feeling
today
yeah
we
could
ask
like
what's
the
best
way
within
this
working
group,
for.
A
D
E
A
B
Very
high
level
conversation
other
times,
people
come
and
they'll
be
like
yeah
I
know
about
chaos,
but
I
have
this
question
about
this
specific
thing
about
auger
or
the
specific
thing
about
this
metrics
or
I'm
an
osbo.
So
like
it's,
it's
like
a
deeper
level
and-
and
it's
totally
fine-
you
know
to
talk
about
that
stuff
but
like
if
there
are
others
on
the
call
that
aren't
at
that
level,
then
they
just
kind
of
are
like
super
lost
and
I
know
that
that's
not
really
the
point
of
openoff.
B
You
know
like
it's
open,
but
I'm,
just
wondering
if
there
maybe
needs
to
be
a
medium.
Like
okay,
you've
been
around
chaos
a
little
bit
Let's
help
you
figure
out
what
to
do
next
or
like
you
know,.
E
D
B
We
we
do
have
that
my
only
my
only
fear-
and
maybe
this
is
unfounded,
but
it
can
be
overwhelming
for
people
if,
if
I'm,
on
slack
and
I'm
the
contact
person
for
Dei,
for
instance,
I,
don't
think
I
am
but
I,
don't
know
and
then
I
start
getting
paint
and
getting
pinged.
D
I
think
if
we
had
somebody
on
the
high
level
like
chaos
at
the
top
of
the
umbrella
as
a
mentor,
you
might
get
more
of
that
volume,
but
on
the
working
group
level,
once
they've
been
there
for
four
weeks
or
in
that
process
and
decide
if
that's
where
they
want
to
be
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
smaller
number
like
we
don't
see
in
the
badging
group.
We
don't
see
that
many
people
coming,
though
yeah.
B
D
I'm,
just
yeah
you're
still
recognized,
and
that
might
be
a
a
once
every
month
thing
on
the
on
those
calls.
We
say
hey
this
month.
This
person
is
going
to
be
our
our
new
member
Mentor
or
our
new
member
contact
next
month.
It
might
be
somebody
else
like
that
might
because,
if
we
do
that,
then
that's
only
one
month
with
new
people
and
that's
only
two
meetings
for
a
lot
of
the
groups.
D
So
it's
not
a
that.
That's
something
small
that
you
might
be
able
to
get
more
commitment
on
than
having
a
facilitator
for
a
meeting
who
who
would
be
like
to
be
our
like
our
new
member?
You
know
welcome
contact
this
month
for
October
or
whatever.
D
A
Elizabeth
to
your
point
on
the
office
hours
with
the
two
different
levels
of
people,
you
know,
like
just
I,
don't
know
what
chaos
is
versus
I
would
like
to
participate
in
the
hospital
working
group.
You
know
what
I
mean
my
my
hope
is.
A
Is
that
that
you
could
do
it
all
just
in
that
single
hour,
and
you
could
just
put
a
disclaimer
up
front
that
says
like
hey
just
so
you
understand
that
a
lot
of
people
are
coming
at
this
from
different
levels
and
I'm
gonna
answer
questions
kind
of
as
they
as
they
come
in,
and
so
you
know
don't
be
afraid
to
ask
a
question
if
you're
like
brand
new
or
ask
a
question
if.
D
A
Idea-
and
the
Hope
too,
is
like
on
the
office
hours
like
if
somebody's
like
I
would
like
to
participate
in
the
ospo
stuff
like
it
and
if
they're
comfortable
with
open
source
Community
work
like
it
could
be
a
fairly
easy
answer.
Like
here's,
the
repo
here's,
the
slack
Channel,
here's
the
meeting
time,
I
suggest
you
like
just
plug
into
those
those
three
things
for
the
time
being.
A
A
So
maybe
I
like
this
idea,
maybe
like
over
the
next
week
or
so
we
could
kind
of
focus
on
this
part
of
it,
which
would
be.
How
do
we
think
about
to
your
point
Katie,
like
on
the
slack
Channel
saying
you
know,
welcome
here's.
What
we
highly
recommend
you
to
do
is
connect
in
the
office
hours
and
watch
the
onboarding
video
or
participate
in
the
onboarding
session.
A
If
that
works
for
you,
and
so
maybe
we
just
start
there,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
get
people
to
attend
the
office
hours
and
then
from
there.
We
continue
to
build
this
out.
B
I
have
a
sorry,
I
know
we
keep
talking
about
this,
but
so
would
it
would
it
make
sense
to
Point
people
to
the
quick
start
on
the
website
in
case
like
we
change
stuff,
I,
don't
or
am
I
making
sense
here
like.
A
Yeah
I
haven't
thought
about
that.
I
mean
we're
about
ready
to
have
a
web
meeting.
So
we
could
talk
about
that.
D
And
that
would
be
the
like
having
tips
and
tricks
type
of
thing
on
the
website
would
be
that
page
of
having
the
quick
start
could
have
the
list
of
the
previous
recordings
and
most
have
a
thing
that
says
the
most
recent
one.
It
can
have
a
thing
that
says
here
are
the
things
we
suggest
you
do
at
these
different
levels.
Here
are
some
tips
that
our
members
say
they
wish
they
would
have
known
when
we
started
you're.
So
let's
help
you
out
type
of
page.
B
A
A
Okay,
we
are
out
of
time
folks
yeah
yeah
yeah.
It
was
good
to
see
everybody.
Okay,
bye,
everybody
have
a
have
a
good
one
and
Anita
I'm,
just
gonna
stay
on
this
channel
so
because
I
know
we're
talking
after
this.
So.
A
A
Go
to
a
meeting
all
right,
so
Anita
I
have
Elizabeth
here
just
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
interview
stuff.
Just.
A
Because
Elizabeth
is
also
working,
she's
kind
of
a
working
with
the
all-in
project
as
well
and
obviously
working
with
the
chaos
project-
and
my
hope
is-
is
that
we
can
kind
of
connect.
The
interview
work
that
you
want
to
do
with
some
of
our
potential
contacts
in
the
all-in
project
now
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
is
going
to
work,
but
this
is
what
I'm
hoping
to
do.
So.
A
My
my
concern
is
is
that
an
interview
campaign
can
be
a
lot
of
work
like
it's
just
a
lot
of
work
to
do
Outreach
and
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
run
the
interviews
and
if,
if
we
can
it's
a
little
bit
easier,
if
you
have
a
group
of
people
who,
for
example,
are
participating
in
all
in
and
are
kind
of
eager
to
talk
about,
metrics
or
ways
to
think
about
how
metrics
can
help
them
around
Dei?
So
it
helps
reduce
that
barrier
and
smooth
the
conversation.
A
A
little
bit
make
things
a
little
bit
easier.
The
other
advantage
of
potentially
working
with
all
in
around
these
questions
is
that
it
could
really
benefit
the
all-in
project
like
directly
Not.
Only
would
it
benefit
how
we
understand
our
metrics
within
chaos,
but
how
we
understand
our
metrics
as
deployed
within
a
potential
project.
So
that's
my
thought
here.
Elizabeth.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that
or
yeah.
B
So
I
did
actually
ping
Sarah
in
between
meetings,
so
Anita
Sarah
oyatubo
is
kind
of
the
point
person
at
GitHub
that
I'm
working
closely
with,
and
so
just
for
some
context
too.
B
All
in
has
kind
of
two
sections
and
one
is
called
all
in
for
students
and
that's
about
bringing
students
into
open
source
and
getting
them
kind
of
onboarded
onto
the
whole
thing,
and
the
other
half
is
all
in
for
maintainers
and
so
I'm
working
with
Sarah
on
the
all
in
for
maintainers
part
of
it,
and
in
that
there's
the
badging,
obviously
that
you
know
about
the
badging
there's
also
a
piece:
that's
called
our
Dei
resources
Hub.
So
we're
trying
to
like
bring
a
bunch
of
resources
like
highly
curated
resources.
B
There
there's
also
a
part:
that's
gonna
like
match
bigger
projects
with
smaller
projects,
to
help
them
on
Dei
issues,
and
then
the
final
one
is
providing
grants
for
tooling
to
help
me
to
open
source
maintainers
kind
of
manage
things
like
triaging,
so
they're,
more
responsive,
for
instance,
and
more
welcoming
that
kind
of
thing.
B
Said
GitHub
is
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
this.
Well,
not
not
come
out
terrible
GitHub
is
a
part
of
Microsoft,
we'll
just
say
that
and
with
Microsoft
there's
a
lot
of
yeah.