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C
B
B
So,
let's
see
would
I'll
start
would
anybody
like
to
facilitate
next
week
I've
been
facilitating
these
for
kind
of
a
while
and
just
seeing
if
we'd
like
to
rotate
at
all?
If
not,
I
can.
A
A
Exactly
but
so
I'm
going
to
indicate
this
to
myself
by
changing
the
color
okay,
I
always
put
like
super
important
stuff
in,
like
I
changed
the
color
to
like
this
bright
red.
So
it
reminds
me
there's
something
something
super
important
about
that
meeting
and
in
this
case
it's
that
I'm
host
and
I
am
facilitating.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
sean.
I
would
like
to
just
have
everybody
if
you're
in
the
minutes,
I
see
nick's
there,
emily
I'm
there
kevin
and
sean.
Are
you
in
the
minutes
as
well.
A
B
Because
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
take
like
a
minute
or
two,
you
know
how
sometimes
we
go
through
issues
and
pull
requests
just
to
kind
of
see
where
we're
at
like
in
each
of
the
working
groups.
Can
you
just
take
a
minute
or
two
and
I'll
pause,
the
recording
to
just
go
back
through
our
notes
and
see
if
there's
anything
in
the
notes
that
you
feel
like
we've
forgotten
about
or
yeah
you
know,
could
could
use
a
little
and
we
could
draw
that
forward
again.
So.
A
B
D
Sorry,
actually,
right
before
this
meeting
started,
I
was
looking
at
the
documentation,
discoverability
metric,
so
I
went
ahead
and
I
went
ahead
and
merged
the
request
that
elizabeth
had
put
in-
and
I
and
I
edited
that
existing
issue
to
reflect
that.
It's
the
the
issue
that
was
there
to
reflect
that
it's
an
under
review
issue.
So,
okay,
I
know
it
in
the
meeting
yesterday.
D
I
had
said
that
maybe
it
was
a
better
idea
to
create
a
new
issue,
but
it's
okay,
probably
better
to
maybe
it's
better,
to
keep
all
the
conversation
close
together
around
that
okay,
okay,.
B
D
B
E
No,
I
feel
like
we're
pretty
much
working
on
everything
that
that
like,
for
example,
the
event
demographics,
that's
still
here.
I
think
the
other
thing
was
like
the
survey
that
we
were
sending
out
yeah.
So,
okay,.
B
Okay,
cool
hi
justin,
just
so
you
know
we
were
just
spending
a
little
bit
of
time
you
don't
have
to,
but
we
were
just
spending
a
little
bit
of
time
going
back
through
our
prior
minutes,
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
anything.
I
know
we
use
issues
and
pr's
to
kind
of
keep
track
of
things,
but
sometimes
you
know
how
it
is
with
minutes.
We
take
ideas
and
then
weeks
advance,
and
we
we
kind
of
forget
about
some
of
the
things
that
we
write
down.
B
So
if
there's
anything-
and
you
could
do
this
while
the
meeting's
going
on-
but
if
there's
anything
that
you're
thinking
that
we're
forgetting
about
that,
we
talked
about
in
weeks
past.
That
would
be
cool
and
you
can
just
put
it
in
the
second
point
right
here.
You
know
what
I
mean
just
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
things
so
emily
to
to
your
question
about
the
survey
right
now,
I'm
going
to
pause
this
for
a
second.
B
No
as
long
as
it's
you
in
in
this,
usually
it's
kind
of
like
in
the
spirit
of
the
survey.
Okay
is
is
okay.
So
if
we
amend
a
question
or
like
sometimes,
as
you
probably
know
like
a
survey
question
people
are
like,
I
don't
understand
that
at
all,
and
then
we
just
have
to
rewrite
it
into
two
questions
or
something
like
that.
That's,
okay,
we
don't
have
to
get
it.
Reapproved.
F
A
B
Alright,
so
I'll
put
this:
let's
archive
the
like
older.
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
On
just
one,
I
have
to
pause
for
just
a
second
okay.
D
I
think
we
talked
about
a
year
and
doing
the
archive
right
around
the.
I
think.
The
the
the
march
release
metrics.
G
D
So
and
that
matches,
I
believe,
when
matt
snell
had
her
when
matt
had
yeah.
Sorry
still
not
still
not
used
to
the
new
last
name
yeah,
when
he,
when
he
had
archived
divers.
A
D
Okay,
so
there
was,
I
know
there
was
some.
There
was
some
discussion
of
archiving
it
in
markdown
form,
rather
than.
D
So
I'm
not
sure
where
he
put
it,
but
I
believe
he
did
do
it.
Thank
you.
B
Let's
see
okay
justin
did
you
put
this
last?
Does
zooming
out
to
a
higher
level
comment.
F
That
was
me.
Could
you
give
me
a
taco
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
yeah?
So
this
is
just
one
thing
that
I
know
from
some
of
our
other
conversations.
We've
been
really
focused
on
the
metrics
in
these
categories.
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
would
help
to
revisit
and
just
take
a
look
at
these
categories
again,
maybe
with
the
working
group
more
widely,
knowing
that
some
folks
come
in
some
some
weeks
and
some
folks
come
in
other
weeks.
F
B
A
great
idea-
I
don't
think
we've
ever
done
that
so
I
from
I'll
just
I'll,
share
my
screen
to
kind
of
explain
what
I
think
you're
getting
at.
So
if
I
take
a
look
at
the
dni
or
the
dei
focus
areas,
we
have
event:
diversity,
oops,
sorry,
contributor,
community
diversity,
communication
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
so
I
think
justin's
saying
like
is
room
27
34
42.
Are
these
appropriate
headers?
Is
that
what
you're
talking
about
and
then.
B
D
B
D
Know,
common
in
value
has
actually
common
value
and
evolution.
We've
all
three
of
those
working
groups
have
re-evaluated
their
focus
areas.
Oh.
B
D
To
just
let
you
know,
by
the
way,
evolution
is
working
on
the
something
that's
very
closely
related
to
the
recognition
of
good
work
focus
area.
A
Okay,
so,
and
it's
it's,
this
is
matthew
tiff
from
drupal,
who
is
kind
of
they
have
a
system
for
doing
it,
but
the
system
really
raises
a
lot
of
credit,
granting
and
review
of
credit
granted
kinds
of
questions
that,
I
think
are
important
kevin.
Are
you
suggesting
this
might
be
redundant
with
that
or
oh.
D
No,
no
I'm
just
I'm
just
saying
that
there's
there's
something
related
and
no
no,
the
de
dei
working
group
is,
is
welcome
to
to
work
on
areas
in
that
focus.
Sorry,
it's
not
a
not
a
competition
between
working
groups.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you,
everybody
for
taking
a
look.
This
is
helpful,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
on
chaos
con.
So
this
is
around
the
top
of
page
two.
B
So
at
some
point
we're
gonna
have
a
keynote
speaker
for
chaos
con.
So
I
can't
it
sounds
like
so
there's
gonna
be
some
form
of
chaos,
god
that
happens,
whether
it's
in
person
and
then
kind
of
a
tape.
Delay
like
that
you
had
suggested
yesterday
kevin.
You
know
where
we
post
the
videos
and
have
people
participate
kind
of
a
week
later,
which
is
a
cool
idea
or
totally
in
person
period.
B
B
A
For
chaos
con
yeah,
I
mean
I
can
think
of
one
that
we
know
who's,
probably
pretty
busy,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
say
who
that
person
is
on
a
recording.
But
I
caused
her
some
pain
yesterday
by
editing
something
too
much
so
yeah.
You
should
be
a
great
candidate,
but
maybe
we
should
talk
to
her
before
we
put
her
name
out.
B
E
D
Is
it
too
early
to
start
presenting
or
discussing
the
results
of
our
kind
of
internal
dei?
Reflection?
Is
that
that
might
be.
That
might
be
a
nice
keynote
to
reflect
on
the
the
dei
of
our
organization,
and
you
know
what
we
can
do
better
going
forward.
So.
D
D
F
B
G
A
E
A
E
Yeah
I
triple
essay
open
is
going
to
be
a
co-host
sponsor
for
ospo-con.
B
B
I
think
people
would
like
to
see
those
results
and
talk
through
those
results
and
I
will
say
the
date,
the
september
30th
date,
I
think,
is
pretty
fixed
for
us,
because
if
you
look
at
the
schedule,
that's
when
they're
doing
their
like
cursory
events
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
or
whatever
they
call.
A
B
On
dni
is
part
of
the
work
that
they
do
at
whatever
organization
they're
at
all
right
cool.
Well,
thank
you
for
thoughts
on
that
kevin.
I
think
you
kind
of
updated
us
on
the
next
one,
which
was
the
documentation,
discover
ability.
It
sounds
like
you
had
gone
ahead
and
merged
the
pull,
request
and
updated
the
issue.
B
A
D
B
All
right,
so
that's
an
update
on
that.
B
So
then,
if
folks
could
take
a
look
at
and
I'm
gonna
ask
kevin
pry
again,
logistically
the
best
way
to
get
this
next
item
done.
So
we
based
on
the
dei
event
badging
program.
B
So
the
proposal
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
weeks
that
everybody
seems
to
be
okay
with
is
getting
rid
of
speaker,
demographics,
getting
rid
of
attendee
demographics
and
making
a
single
metric
called
event,
demographics
and
then
down
the
road.
We
would
make
another
metric
called
project
demographics,
but
I
think
this
is
done,
and
so
you
could
click
on
that
link.
That's
there
and
justin.
I
think
I
in
that
your
comment.
You
had
a
comment
in
event:
demographics
that
I
tried
to
address,
so
I
think
it
should
be
okay,.
B
F
B
But
we
can,
we
can
move
this
into
the
community
review
period
and
then
continue
to
highlight
it
for
a
month.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
specifically
point
out
that
line
for
people
to
and
if
they
have
a
question
about
it,
we
can
make
modifications
during
that
time
makes
sense.
Okay,
cool,
so
does
anybody
else
have
comments
on
this
metric?
It's
a
pretty
pretty
narrow.
D
It's
using
the
old
template,
you
need
to
need
to
add
contributors
to
it.
Oh
okay,
which
I'm
doing
now.
Thank
you,
and
I
would
request
that
the
individuals
on
the
call
that
worked
on
this
metric
add
their
name.
B
D
In
on
the
website,
in
the
past,
we've
used
the
comma
approach.
Okay,
I'm
actually
not
sure
how
it's
I
have.
We
released
a
metric
since
the
template
changed.
I
don't
think
so.
D
Or
if
you're
aware
of
someone
else
who
contributed
to
the
metric,
would
it
be
appropriate
to
add
them.
D
B
B
Metrics
and
maybe
to
justin's
point
about
kind
of
highlighting
that
thing
about
over
the
course
of
the
next
month
or
so
we
can
continue
to
say,
don't
forget
if
you
have
contributed.
Please
add
yourself
all
right
so
event:
demographics,
I'm
making
some
notes
here.
D
I
wonder
if
that
that
that
line
would
be
helpful
to
actually
add
to
the
to
the
editor.
You
know
kind
of
a
contributors.
If
you
worked
on
this
metric,
please
submit
a
pull
request
or
something
like
that.
To
add
your
name
just
what's
your
thought,
I'm
wondering
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
add
a
note
about
contributors
to
the
to
the
actual
metric
template?
G
D
B
D
So
the
the
first
step
in
the
release
is,
is
the
turning
this
into
markdown.
So
once
this
once
there's
a
pull
request
into
the
the
diversity
and
inclusion
repo
for
this
metric
that
basic
that
starts
the
release
process.
So.
D
We
need
to
add
at
the
top
of
this
metric,
we
need
to
add
the
disclaimer
which
it's
basic.
It's
a
disclaimer
that
just
says
this
metric
is
under
review
and
then
we
link
to
a
an
issue
to
collect
the
comments
for
this
metric.
D
So
the
pull
request
for
this
metric
and
the
creation
of
the
issue
should
occur
kind
of
at
the
same
time,
because
you
need
to
have
the
issue
to
link
to
right.
So
when
that
when
that
issue
is
created
and
this
metric
is
the
pull
request
is
made
that
basically
moves
this
moves.
Everything
forward
right.
So
the
next
step,
then,
is
to
move
it
to
the
website.
B
D
In
the
in
the
release,
notes,
you'll
need
to
yeah,
basically
add
where
that
you're
deleting
or
merging
those
those
two
metrics
together
and
then,
as
far
as
the
review
process
goes
for
those
two
metrics
that
are
being
deleted.
D
B
D
Well,
I
mean
if
we're,
if
we're
really
following
the
process,
if
the
like
the
formal
process,
the
way
it's
outlined,
then
each
of
those
metrics
that
we
are
potentially
deleting
would
need
to
have
its
own
issue
to
collect
the
comments
and
then,
additionally,
we
would
need
to
add
the
disclaimer
to
those
two
metrics
that
we're
proposing
to
delete.
D
If
we
were,
if
we
were
completely
following
the
process,
that's
I
would
say
we
should
do
that,
but
because
we're
merging
it
replacing
it
with
one
new
one,
I
don't
it's.
That
seems
a
little
bit
like
overkill,
so.
C
B
B
E
E
B
E
Yeah,
I
I
went
to
the
the
hyperlink,
the
open
demographics
initiative
and
I
just
kind
of
looked
through
it.
I
just
went
through
each
of
the
questions
and
I
just
didn't
yeah.
I
didn't
think
that
that
addresses
role,
diversity,
which
you
know
sometimes
is
really
important.
The
perspective
of
you
know
the
hierarchy.
I
guess.
B
So
could
you
so
yeah?
Let
me
stop
me
share
for
a
second.
B
G
B
B
B
B
B
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
talked
about
in
the
deei
working
group
was
to
not
only
put
forward
to
justin's
point,
like
think
about
our
focus
areas
or
to
think
about
new
metrics
that
could
exist
in
these
focus
areas,
but
also
to
reflect
on
the
metrics
that
have
been
released
in
the
past
that,
like
just
just
because
it
was
released,
doesn't
mean
that
it's
a
truth
going
forward,
and
we've
done
this
before
in
other
working
groups.
Value,
for
example,
has
kind
of
re-looked
at
a
metric.
B
That's
been
released
and
thought
you
know
this
one's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
rest,
and
maybe
we
should
rethink
about
it
or
pre-examine
it.
So
this
was
one
that
that
was
a
little
bit
different.
Just
in
terms
of
the
implementation,
it
was
a
little
bit
more,
I
guess,
maybe
deliberate
in
how
this
metric
was
being
promoted.
B
So
a
lot
of
our
metrics
are,
you
know
like
we're
just
trying
to
locate
people
in
a
particular
area,
whatever
that,
whatever
that
metric
might
be
or
around
a
particular
question
and
then
give
some
guidance
as
to
how
how
people
can
think
about
kind
of
addressing
that
question,
and
so
the
I'd
say.
None
of
our
metrics
are
absolutely
like.
B
Fully
comprehensive
they're
meant
to
locate
people,
and
so
I
not
that,
let's
see
so
there's
a
pull
request
in
here.
So
I
that
I
opened
a
while
ago
and
I'm
wondering
if
somebody
could
maybe
take
a
look
at
this.
It's
just
a
way
to
kind
of
rethink
the
metric
based
on
conversations
we've
had
in
this
working
group.
B
You
know,
while
getting
it
into
the
new
template.
Well,
you
get
the
idea
just
try
to
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit,
so
I'm
hoping
somebody
could
maybe
take
a
look
at
this
pull
request
for
me
and
provide
feedback.
It
doesn't
have
to
happen
right
now,
but
just
provide
feedback
and
thoughts,
and
this
could
be
a.
F
B
All
right
cool!
Thank
you
all
right.
B
And
I
you
know,
I
think,
we're
about
at
the
end
of
time.
Here
there
was
one
thing
I
put
on
the
list.
This
was
with
ieee
essay
open
and
emily.
I'm
glad
you're
on
the
call,
because
I
know
that
there's
some
overlap
between
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
attendees
from
the
chaos
project.
I
was
hoping
you
could
kind
of
talk
about
that,
just
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
how
we
can
support
that
work.
E
Yeah
so
right
now
I
want
to
say
that
matt
cantu
is
the
lead
facilitator
in
our
badging
initiative,
which
I'm
I'm
not
in
that
group.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure.
G
E
Quite
sure
where
they
are,
but
we
he
has,
you
know
kind
of
brought
over
some
of
the
chaos
stuff,
which
I
think
is
awesome
that
we
have
some
synergies
there.
So
he's
helping
us,
you
know,
put
together
that
stuff
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people
they
have
in
their
group.
E
But
I
can
we
do
have
a
technical
advisory
group
workshop
coming
up,
it's
going
to
be
on
june
16th
and
it's
similar
to
a
working
group,
but
it's
focused
on
our
technical
advisor
group,
so
the
last
one
we
had
was
for
marketing
and
this
one's
for
technical
and
then
the
other
advisory
group
we
have
is
community
and,
I
believe,
they're
rolling
out
their
workshop
in
july
or
august.
But
I'll
put
the
details
in
the
chat.
We
have
some
pretty
great
open
source
enthusiasts
that
are
there.
E
We
have
speakers,
and
so,
if
any,
we
always
welcome
chaos,
of
course.
So
if
you
guys
would
like
to
head
on
over
to
our
stuff
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat,
so
you
can.
B
B
E
Yeah
so
it's
sort
of
like
an
unconference
and
we
have
breakout
rooms.
So
we
have
the
format.
Is
you
know
we
have
our
speakers
and
during
that,
their
taped
sessions?
They
are
interacting
with
you
know,
anyone
that's
attending
the
conference
and
then
we
have
our
breakout
rooms,
which
we
we
do
have
specific
ones
that
are
already
predetermined
per
the
community,
but
we
always
allow
for
if
there's
enough
interest,
if
say,
chaos
came,
and
you
know
there's
something
in
regard
regarding
the
technical
advisory
group
that
you'd
like
to
work
on.
E
You
guys
are
welcome
to
have
your
own
breakout
room
and
you
know,
contribute
back
in
that
way.
But
yeah
that's
I
mean
it's
pretty
much
an
unconference
workshop
or
I
like
to
say
working
group.
But
technically
we
can't
say
that
so
so
yeah,
but
that's
what
it
is.
Gotcha.
C
B
All
right,
oh,
I
had
one
so
thank
you
emily
I
had
one
thought:
has
anybody?
Okay,
so
this
was
for
chaos
cut.
I'm
sorry
I
totally
missed
this.
Has
anybody
ever
had
worked
with
an
organization
that
does
signing
for
presentations
so
like?
If
we
had
pre-recorded
presentations,
can
you
have
people
actually
sign
the
presentation
as
well
like.
B
Sign
language,
yes,
yeah,
so
we
would
actually
record
the
presentation
right
so
say
you
would
present
and
we
would
give
the
presentation
to
somebody
I'm
not.
Even
this
is
just
a
thought
I
had
this
morning
to
actually
sign
the
presentation
and
include
that,
like
as
a
small
thumbnail
or
something
is
part
of
the
presentation,
just
a
thought,
emily,
I'm
sorry,
you
had
a
comment
too.
E
Oh,
no,
I
I
didn't
know
if
you
were
looking
at
if,
in
terms
of
software,
it
can
be
done
like
zoom
or
like
we
use
big
blue
button,
so
we're
able
to
have
everyone
turn
off
their
camera
and
have
the
presenter
and
then
maybe
the
asl
interpreter
on
screen.
As
a
presentation
is
going,
I
feel
like
that's
the
easiest
way.
Unless
you
want
it,
you
know
kind
of
baked
into
the
presentation.
E
B
F
F
B
Of
course,
this
is
a
service
that
we
would
pay
for
right,
but
it's
just
a
thought
for
presentations.
B
D
B
I
was
just
trying
to
read
your
all
right
cool
all
right
everybody.
This
was.
This
is
really
great.
It's
great
to
see
everybody
thanks
for
coming,
and
thanks
for
all
of
your
insight
every
week
and
we'll
see
you
around.
Okay,
all.