CHAOSS Evolution Working Group, 14 Nov 2018

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GMD Weekly Meeting: November 14, 2018

A

And I noticed it right away because it's something I've heard mentioned I, don't think it's harmful to mention it because he's just talking about the what not the how yeah and.

B

I think your point.

A

Is that the? How is what goes in the metrics definition or not.

B

A

I agree: L completely agree with that. Yeah. These cases are all about the. How okay.

B

And then the thing that I find it something to discuss is whether this is one use case or in fact two use cases, because if you look at it in fact he's having two items which to miss him rather different and I, think each of those could be a use case by itself. I.

A

Agree: I think they could be there they're, both more generally they're, the most part generally about how do I know what to do with different people, communites versus paying attention to a bug reporter they're similar but they're, not the same yeah use case exactly.

B

That's what I mean yeah?

B

Yes, just thinking when I, when I wrote this I was thinking in which focus try on the matrix that can be derivative. Today it could be, and I really don't know, I don't know. If maybe we at some point which we need to decide to add more focus areas, because this one could be in community.

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B

It's not exactly, you know it's it's like like to match individual for, pin, I, don't know I.

A

What would be the other will be the other focus area, I, don't.

B

Know what I mean is it doesn't meet that it doesn't seem to me that it fits well in one of the current focus areas.

B

A

I think from his description, you're right, it doesn't fit well in into, for example, the Community Development.

A

B

For instance, it could be encode the Block Grant, because in the end you are trying to find out somebody who is going to be a committer. But in fact you want you to look at maybe different data sources because for finding out somebody who wants to get commit rights, maybe you want somebody who is I, don't know rest saving, mailing lists, for instance, because you want somebody in dated with the community and so on.

B

So I don't know, maybe that maybe the best one could be community growth in the sense that you are finding out people who are growing with the community or something like that. But you know it's it.

A

Is it is resonant of things that I've heard community managers say about how they gauge contributions to their community that they are looking at these kinds of details so that it is I mean I? Think from a community manager perspective the things that he's asking for would fit under community growth, but I I can see them. I definitely see the point they're making that it doesn't it isn't tightly fit under community grow. This in.

B

Any case we also could have use cases that fit in two or more focus areas, because you know.

C

B

Kind of things that I find interesting may may become behind the different area. So it's not really a problem, so we don't really need to open a new focus area just because of this yeah. Let's.

A

See how it and yeah.

B

A

We've asked him for his thoughts. We've asked him to make some changes anyway. So he's got some time. Yeah.

B

That's fine, okay, anything else with respect to this pull request, maybe not.

A

Say it's an issue. You mean.

B

For you, eighty mean.

A

Yes, I, don't have anything else for that. Okay,.

B

Given Matt, maybe you have some comment or I.

D

B

Okay, then, with respect to the other issues for number 50 I see that you did yeah.

A

I was working I'm working.

B

A

I'm working on reformatting the use case, I have a lot of text, but I didn't put it into our format. So I will add that text before our next meeting. Okay.

B

Perfect, perfect, so that that would mean that we would be working on three different use cases and.

C

B

Still confident that the uber people provide a forth Lecce because I'm bringing them, but they seem to be ashame, mm-hmm, okay, yeah.

C

B

With respect to which we.

A

Have three open: throw requests yeah.

B

I'm and no I'm I'm still in the issues. Okay,.

A

B

With respect just to mention it with respect to the number 33, we move to the pull request state as we decided last million, so it is not close, but working in the pull request. Then we have number 35 35.

A

And 41 are both in a pull request right now, as well. Okay,.

B

Great great and let's see what photos its mission well, I think it's! It's all about that! So number 43 needs some review by somebody. I mean some reviews on pull request. The.

A

Florrick floor request for the civil flying of the file names for that's.

B

Something that's something that they can do if you need it I only. This is something that we discovered in the last movie. I can.

E

I can take care of that I'm familiar with what's causing that issue. Okay,.

B

Vivian great, in that case, I'm assigning it to you right. Thank you sounds.

A

Good I don't see LD Kevin's on this repo. For some reason, although I try I try to assign him something earlier today and I was not able to that's.

B

Fine, what's what's your ID keep in KL.

E

B

You and be like lumba yep.

A

B

Doesn't work, okay, I will check it. Probably that's because you don't have permissions on the repository I can take and if so, I can give you that if the rest of you agree, I agree.

A

B

For now, I'm, just taking note that you are going to take care of this okay, okay,.

C

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B

Be researching what's happening and.

A

Also, we have a new participant elk, garcia disease. Oh yeah,.

C

Hi I'm Alberto Alberto, hey.

A

C

To change their the name, Oh.

E

I think we've seen Alberto here before I think.

A

So too Albert.

B

This from be Thursday, yeah.

C

I was with you son in you, know: Scott yeah, yeah yeah,.

A

No I remember meeting you now, but I just don't recognize everybody on these video things. Don't.

B

Worry about faces, okay, okay, so I think there is nothing else to do in issues step that you have in the other comment or something I have.

A

No other comments.

B

Okay, let's move to pull records then.

B

So, okay for the value and risk, this is the great I'm just looking at it I'm looking at number 49, which is something that you submitted.

A

Yeah and because I was doing two full requests there. I did create two commits, but they're single pull request covers both issues: 35 and 41, which okay.

B

A

But that was how I was able to get it done this week. Okay,.

B

I think that's that's perfect from my point of view, so on I'm going to review it an order to right now: okay, I'm, just I'm gonna, look at it and.

A

B

Out if we are missing something, but the.

A

Focus areas might are probably pretty straightforward. The only thing that you might want to sort of note or check if you agree with, is I broke out. I created a contributing markdown document that I took a lot of a text from.

B

Things basically from the rid me right from the brand I.

A

Took it I took it straight out of the regular. The previous readme I did well didn't bury little to other than create some headings. No.

B

No, that's fine and that's perfect, because she's the the way that people usually expect to find it. Okay, so I feel see nothing wrong with it. So I'm I'm quickly reviewing it right now. Okay, I knew anyone has any comment on this full review. Now that we are with it.

B

Okay, in that case, I'm going to proceed to March it not.

D

B

Okay, okay, I'm, reversing and merging okay done good, so the other two pull requests for use cases all know. You have the use case for forgiven and and the one that I opened some time ago. That only need some reviewer, which is as this rather small one on simplifying the filenames.

A

All right, I hope somebody can review it. That's very high, really I, don't know I'm not.

B

A

For the meeting to merge it that looks again, it's merged. Okay,.

B

Thank you and the other one is still working progress, and basically, we would need. Is your comments under review? So just a comment on this, since this is how our first use case I think that we need to find a balance between accepting it as soon as possible, so that we have at least one example, but ensuring that it meets minimum quality criteria, because this is going.

E

B

Set the rule for others that come up doors you.

E

B

Thing that this miss admission right now is a list of metrics but I'm, proposing to acepted, assists without the metrics and discussing the metrics and a further pull request, and the reason is for having something as quick as possible in the repositories that we have at least one use case, even if it is not complete, and then we can discuss on the specific metrics on a separate pull request. If you agree, yeah I can agree, I can help do a review.

A

B

Not now necessarily same whenever, but yes ha feet on your brother and on everybody else, please and comment anything to me 1, because this is going to somehow set the world, for other words, that I was going to come to come later. Of course, we can always do for the pool requests improve it. So it's just about a matter of. Is it good enough for being an example for others? That's it ok and I think this is all with respect to pull requests to any other comment or pull requests or issues by anybody else.

B

Ok, then something which is not exactly an issue. Well, it is an issue, but is a deeper discussion. Is issue number 44 refine call development focus area, because this should be the discussion for starting this top-down discussion on the first focus area where we are working so I open the ticket, as we agreed to in the last meeting, and the idea is that now you can maintain it I'm proposing some goals, and maybe some questions very sank, also only the unsung scope, because I think we should to the first define the scope.

B

You know what kind of let's say: questions metrics were ever fit in this and then work with the goals, and once we are done with the goals, we should go to questions and lay down matrix. So not necessarily now, if you have comments now, of course, just say that, maybe later.

A

Yeah I'll make a note comment on this as well, and Alberto's camera is showing his fingers, so at first I thought he was signing like using sign language.

B

Maybe I don't hear someone but I. Don't.

A

Know I'm here and I don't hear him. I just saw his fingers in the camera.

A

Okay, I'm just making a note of that.

B

So, in short, since this is going to be a powerful discussion on the focus area, ideas was trying to frame it first on the scope and maybe at the same time, a limit. Maybe a bit later on.

B

The main goals in the important thing is that from now the next week, you all of you try to submit your comments wherever on both on the scope and the goals, so that either we already agree on the ticket, and then we can start to amend the file talking about this or we discussed during the meeting, and we try to find a consensus.

B

Okay, I arrived. If you agree, is once we are done with scope and main goals. I can open a pull request, basically amending the current file for this focus area, including that information and from that we move to questions and then to a matrix.

B

Okay, yes, I, agree. So.

A

B

It this is just a heads up so that everybody can work in this issue. If you want and and I think I don't have anything else for this no.

A

I think we've covered the agenda territory mm-hmm.

B

Any other thing that any of you may want to talk about or something.

D

Nothing to talk about explicitly I just want to say it's great to see these use cases moving forward as talked about or just because they're, real tractable and they're gonna give people something to hold on to which is super cool, mm-hmm, I hope so well.

B

Another really thing that we can talk offline Dacian is I was proposing and I think that you agree. Yes,.

C

B

Working group and the way we are working and so in the question, so maybe we can discuss offline draft or something I can produce a draft, but I say told you if you want for the person.

A

Yeah totally I agree. We should do something and I appreciate you taking the first cut at it. Hisses yeah.

B

Of course, so my idea in any case yeah just for you to come in, is to focus on the procedure and using the first use cases and the first focus areas that we have worked. It would, by February as an example, because that in a way would be to show people how they can contribute both reduce these cases and produce in chemins or whatever to the focus areas so that that's how I'm going to try to frame the presentation. If you agree, I, agree.

A

I, look at the synergy: centered, okay,.

B

A

Send you a message.

B

Then, with a draft- and we talk about it- okay right I- think that's all from my side now.

A

Yeah, it's all for me as well, so.

B

Any other one wants to commend something or stay shut up forever. I will.

D

Stay shut up for a week. We have okay.

A

That's that's a good.

B

A

I should mention next week.

A

D

Sure so it's a yes well.

B

As I proposed it for yesterday, since it doesn't make sense to have this meeting with the stuff to people, we can skip this one and go to the next one. If you want, we can work on the pool, records and issues anyway that works. Then we can send. With the minutes of this meeting, we can send a message saying that the next meeting is going to be in 15 days, not not the next week. Yes, Kevin I do want to produce minutes for the minute.

E

I am taking notes and I will produce the meetings. I should have that posted.

B

Really so in that case, if you submit a pull request with them, including the pull request, the the date for the next meeting and this notice and and we can review and a set date as soon as possible, and then we can send a message at the same time that we inform the people about the maybe minutes we inform them about their okay. Then.

E

Once the pull request goes through, I've been sending uh listen, button did I uh I. Think I, said: I sent a message out to the list thing that the notes and videos were available so I could.

C

E

I do that I'll also include the the next meeting. If oh okay.

B

I think we're much given.

B

Okay, we are done then I think I. Think.

A

So too, all right, everybody all right later.

B

Bye. Thank you. Thank you, bye. Everyone. Thank you.