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All
right
welcome,
oh
and
I'm
going
to
turn
on
live
transcripts
enable
so
I've
turned
on
live
transcripts
and
we
are
recording
so
welcome
to
the
october
12th
october
13th
metrics
model
working
group
meeting
the
minutes
and
the
repo
and
the
spreadsheet
are
all
in
the
chat.
So
if
you
could
take
a
look
and
add
yourself
to
the
list,
that
would
be
great
just
like
to
all
let
you
know
that
halloween
candy
has
arrived
in
my
house.
A
A
A
A
All
right
so
again
welcome,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
few
updates.
A
I
put
the
minutes
in
from
last
time
because
we
haven't
met
for
a
month
because
last
two
weeks
ago
we
were
in
seattle,
many
of
us,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
kind
of
an
update
through
here.
There
were
a
few
to
do
things
for
us.
I
think,
partly
it
was
just
kind
of
organizing
the
work
and
kind
of
getting
the
repository
set
up
and
getting
things
aligned
with
the
spreadsheet.
You
know
what
I
mean.
A
I
did
want
to
just
real
quickly
and
I
think
the
main
point
of
today
that
we
left
off
last
time.
Just
so
you
know,
is
that
we're
going
to
brainstorm
for
new
metric
model
ideas.
I
think
this
was
lucas's
suggestion
from
a
month
ago,
if
I
remember
correctly-
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
nonetheless
I
just
wanted
to
do
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
here
to
kind
of
show
you
what
we've
got.
Does
anybody
want
to
add
anything
to
this
agenda?
A
A
Anybody
like
to
add
anything
good,
all
right.
So
the
the
repository
is
in
the
minutes
or
I'm
sorry
it's
in
the
chat
as
well.
So
I
actually
think
our
readme
file,
I
got
the
contributing
in
there
and
the
license
is
all
set
up.
A
So
I
think
the
the
readme
is
actually
working
out
pretty
well
at
this
point.
So
if
you
could
all
just
take
a
look
at
the
readme,
I
tried
to
keep
it
fairly
simple,
but
all
the
links
should
work.
It
goes
out
to
our
code
of
conduct.
It
goes
out
to
our
participate
page.
It
goes
out
to
our
agenda
that
nobody
can
get
to.
It
goes
out
to
our
focus
areas.
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
it's
it
should
have
everything
pretty
well
squared
away
in
there.
D
A
A
A
D
A
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
further
point
out
that
yahoo
had
also
had
he
had
a
metrics
model
that
he
had
produced
and
it
was
under
the
development
focus
area
and
it's
called
issue
handling.
A
So
this
should
be
all
the
point
being
not
that
I
really
did
anything
it's
just
this.
This
should
all
be
categorized
pretty
well
now,
just
in
terms
of
what
yahui
had
done,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
now
that
we
have
it
properly
placed
and
that
aligns
with
this
spreadsheet,
which
is
our
metrics
model
templates
our
metrics
models.
I
suppose
we
could
just
call
it,
and
this
is
in
the
development.
A
This
is
in
the
development
focus
area,
and
this
is
issue
handling
right
here.
I
went
ahead
and
took
the
text
that
yahui
had
put
in
the
metrics
model
and
just
put
it
in
the
why
you
should
care.
I
also
included
all
of
the
metrics
that
were
in
there
as
well
so
again
just
trying
to
keep
these
things
somewhat
parallel
and
then.
Finally,
just
all
the
way
over
to
the
right
side
is
a
link
to
the
metric
itself.
All
right
so
does
anybody
have
a
comment
as
to
how
we
kind
of
track
these
metrics
models?
A
E
I
remember
last
meeting
someone
have
comments
likes.
Shall
we
give
some
scenario
about
our
description
about
how
to
use
this
matrix
model
to
show
what
what
it
means,
but
someone
also
mentioned
if
I
checked
the
whole
flow,
I
can
imagine
many
of
the
scenarios
and.
B
E
A
A
Component,
but
I
think
you
have
everything
else,
so
I
mean
the.
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
would
be
potentially
another
subheading
here,
which
would
be
like,
like
example,
cases
or
examples
of
when
this
would
be
used
in
practice.
Is
that
right.
E
A
F
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
lay
that
groundwork
now,
because
in
the
future
we
may
want
to
lump
metric
model
models
for
specific
groups
of
people
or
for
like
a
specific
scenario
like
okay,
I'm
starting
a
new
open
source
project.
What
are
the?
What
are
the
different
metrics
models
that
I
will
need
to
look
at
the
different
pieces
of
my
project?
Something
like
that
like
I
just
feel
like.
It
might
be
good
to
start
that
now,
maybe
it's
a
little
more
work,
but
that
could
be
helpful
later
on.
A
F
Maybe
just
like
what
you
said
like
scenarios
or
like
when,
when
you
would
use
that.
G
D
I
think
that's
the
the
the
difference
here.
The
one
one
of
the
interesting
things
about
this
template
is
that
it
actually
starts
with
the
why
we
should
care
with
our
with
our
regular
metrics
template.
We
actually
start
with
a
description,
and
it's
very.
D
Very
explicit:
what
are
we
measuring?
What
is
it
and
then
the
next
section
we
jump
down
to
objectives
and
in
that
objectives
area?
That's,
basically
the
why
we
should
care
and
with
the
with
the
metric
model,
we're
just
we're
jumping
straight
to
the,
why
we
should
care,
because
this
is
this
really
is
kind
of
the.
D
I
know
we
don't
like
to
use
the
term,
but
this
is
the
these
are
why
we
care
right.
These
are
why
we
would
use
these
metrics
models
and
that's
the
the
why
we
would
care
is
really
the
description
of
what
the
metric
model
is.
D
A
We
actually
had
a
like
in
the
original
metrics
template.
We
actually
had
like
implementation
code
like
how
you
could
actually
deploy
this
like.
We
would
actually
have
like.
A
F
B
Let
me
bring
up
some
thoughts
on
the.
Why
you
should
care,
and
one
is
that
actionability
is
key
to
the
these
things
being
useful,
and
so
the
question
of
why
you
should
care
is
always
tied
to
what
it
is
that
you
are
trying
to
accomplish
as
a
result
of
learning
this
information.
A
B
Finger
and
so
like
why
you
should
care
is
what
your
goals
are,
and
actions
are
what
you
might
do
differently
and
personas
is,
you
know
who
you
are?
What's
the
user
context.
A
Okay,
so
what
you
might
do
differently
by
like
after
deploying
this
model,
something.
B
Like
that
yeah,
actually
these
start
to
sound
like
behavior-driven
development
statements,
yeah.
B
Yeah
user
stories,
as
as
a
maintainer
of
a
new
project,
I
want
to
grow
the
number
of
contributors.
A
C
Okay,
I.
F
Have
a
quick
question
so
in
these
metrics
models,
we're
listing
all
the
metrics
that
we
think
go
together,
but
we
don't
really
talk
about
how
to
use
them
together
and
like
how
like,
okay,
here's
this
list,
am
I
looking
at
them
all
separately?
Am
I
like
layering
them
on
top
of
each
other
or
like
does
you
know
burstiness?
Does
that
mean
that
it's
going
to
affect
my
time
to
first
response
or
like
we
don't
really
talk
about
the
way
they
interact
with
each
other
to
fit?
That
picture
is
that
on
purpose.
D
I
think
that
has
to
be
on
purpose,
because
using
these
models
is
going
to
be
highly
contextual,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
get
too
specific
in
how
they
fit
together.
I
mean,
even
if
we,
even
if
we
include,
if
we
include
six
metrics
in
in
a
model
that
that
looks
at
you,
know,
responsiveness
in
a
pull
request,
not
all
of
those
not
all
of
the
metrics
that
we've
included
may
be
important
to
the
the
person
that's
using
it.
D
D
D
E
B
To
thumbs
up
elizabeth's
point
on
cross
metric
complications,
although
the
conversation
then
went
towards
metrics
needing
to
be
stand
alone
in
per
kevin's
point.
A
Okay,
so
where
did
we?
Where
did
we
land
on.
B
I'll
tell
you
my
thoughts
after
that
thread
is
that
we
should
go
and
do
some
and
see
what
we
learn.
A
F
Do
you
think
that's
something
that
maybe
like
long
term,
we
can
look
at
exploring,
because
I
think
that
that's
really
the
piece
that's
helpful
to
people
like
giving
them
a
list
is
great
and
that's
that's
like
the
first
step,
but
like
helping
them
understand
how
these
things
interact
with
each
other
and
the
context
you
can
build
around
something
I
think
is
like
next
level
stuff,
so
maybe
like
in
two
years.
We
could
do
that
or
something
like.
I
would
really
like
to
say
yes
to.
F
A
Cool,
so
why
don't
to
lucas's
point
in
this
meeting
and
lucas's
point
from
a
month
ago?
Maybe
we
could
think
about
some.
Some
models
do.
A
A
Yes,
I
am
okay,
yes,
okay!
So
maybe
what
if
I
just
carved
out
some
space
in
this
document
right
here,
you
know
I
mean
and.
A
D
How
welcoming
is
your
community
yeah
or
how
welcoming
is
your
project
and
the
the
metrics
that
would
be
involved
in?
That
would
be
sentiment,
analysis
of
issues
of
comments,
so
it
would
be
comment
issues.
It
would
be
pull
request
comments.
It
would
be.
D
A
A
Okay,
okay,
this
is
good
lucas,
so
maybe
we
could.
I
could
pause
the
recording
and
maybe
like
as
an
example,
you
see
I'm
doing
very
course
degree
of
course
great
things
here,
like
pr
things,
issues
and.
B
I
think
I
think
we
could
come
up
with
a
tidy
package
for
this
sentiment.
Analysis
thing
by
just
kind
of
name
checking
the
social
listening
metric
right
right
because,
like
in
the
template,
basically
we're
coming
up
with
a
list
of
relevant
metrics,
and
I
think
the
answer
is
that
the
social
listening
metric
is
relevant.
A
Why
don't
I
pause
the
recording
and
maybe
like
elizabeth,
you
could
try
to
come
up
with
a
metrics
model,
metric
and
lucas.
You
could
try
to
do
the
same,
and
you
know
I
mean,
like
everybody,
could
maybe
just
kind
of
follow
this
really
coarse
grain
approach
for
a
metrics
model.
Would
that
be
okay
with
folks.
B
Yeah,
so
is
the
the
next
step
is
to
go,
look
through
metrics
and
identify
items
that
we
think
we
would
cite.
A
Yeah
exactly
so
you'd
have
kind
of
this
top
level
metrics
model
that
you
just.
I
think
it's
something
that
you
just
through
your
experience
and
through
your
conversations
around
community
health,
no
might
be
a
good
model
that
people
would
care
about,
and
then
yes
and
then
it's
identifying
chaos
metrics.
That
could,
as
we
kind
of
always
say,
like
move
the
model
off
zero.
So
I
don't
think
the
chaos
metrics
that
we
have
would
fully
articulate
the
metrics
model,
but
it
would
help
excuse
me
it
would
help
create
some
insight
on
that
model.
Okay,.
A
F
B
Matt
does
it
mess
with
your
flow?
If
I
paste
the
social
listening
link
in
next
to
that.
A
B
A
A
All
right,
we
are
back
recording
from
a
little
break
and
I'm
going
to
go
share.
My
screen
again
wasn't
a
break
but
share
my
screen
again,
and
here
we
are
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
over
the
our
short
micro
sprint.
I
like
that
name
was
that
we
have
slowly
been
building
out
metrics
models
you
can
see.
I
have
one
up
here.
Elizabeth
has
one
here:
the
welcoming
community,
I
think
kevin
and
lucas
have
been
working
on
that
one
together.
A
A
D
I
I
did
put
bus
factor
in
and
the
the
reason
I
put
bus
factor
in
is
because,
if,
if
a
project
has
a
really
low
bus
factor,
that
means
that
the
majority
of
the
work
being
done
is
being
done
by
one
or
two,
a
small
number
of
individuals
right.
So
if
a
small
number
of
individuals
are
doing
the
all
of
the
work
you
do
have
to
ask
yourself
the
question
would
my
contributions
will
be
be
accepted
right
because
I'm
I'm
not
part
of
that
that
in
crowd
or
that
small
core
group.
B
Well,
I
was
going
to
go
to
my
two
items
on
location.
B
Bed:
okay:
where
are
you
at
the?
Where
are
contributors
located
combined
with
event
locations
where.
B
As
a
as
a
maintainer
looking
to
grow
the
community,
I
need
to
know.
D
Cool,
so
I
think
it's
interesting
that
we
both
kind
of
went
to
a
that
user
story
format
for
these,
and
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
matt
was
asking
as
well.
So
I
know
we
had
talked
about
perhaps
using
the
user
stories
in
the
the
why
we
the
why
we
care
apart,
but
maybe
maybe
this
is
where
the
user
stories
belong.
D
And
then
maybe
the
maybe
the
why
we
care
I
I
I'm
contradicting
what
I
said
before
when
I
said
that
I
I
thought
the
having
the.
Why
we
care
first
is
a
good
thing,
but
but
maybe
we
maybe
we
do
take
that
back
and
and
and
do
more
kind
of
a
high
level
description
of
what
the
model
is,
rather
than
the
the.
Why
we
care
at
that
point.
B
I
think
that
it
may
be
useful
in
both
cases,
for
example
in
the
why
we
care
for
these
items,
I
think
they
all
fall
under
the
personas
of
a
maintainer
of
the
kind
of
project
that
wants
more
new
contributors,
which
is
not
true
of
all
of
all
projects.
B
For
example,
there
are
projects
that
only
have
a
small
group
of
core
contributors,
even
though
there
are
a
lot
of
users
and
and
that
prefer
it
that
way
and
and
those
that
second
type
of
project
would
be
disinterested.
So
I
can
imagine
the
why
you
should
care
would
be
something
like
as
a
maintainer
of
a
project
looking
to
grow
the
contributor
base.
I
D
So
a
lot
of
personas
can
can
share
those
same
user
stories
so
it
because
it
becomes
kind
of
a
like.
Let's
count,
how
many
different
personas
we
can
identify,
whereas
if
we,
if
we
focus
on
the
activity,
then
we
can
say
you
know,
this
activity
is
probably
important
to
a
number
of
different
people,
and
you
know
what
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily
care
who
the
people
are
that
are
important
to
it
other
than
maybe
as
a
as
a
reference
tag,
so
that
a
community
manager
might
come
in
and
say
hey.
A
Can
I
make
a
suggestion?
Yes,
please
cool.
We
have
about
five
minutes
left
and
could
could
we
like
so
here's
this
one
whoops,
here's
mine
way
worse
than
all
the
other
ones,
here's
elizabeth
and
here's
kevin
and
lucas's.
Could
we
try
to
kind
of
for
the
next
meeting
put
these
into.
A
And,
as
you
feel
like,
you
need
to
add,
I'm
totally
making
this
up,
but
like
a
subsection
called
personas
or
you
want
to
add.
You
know
like
that,
subpart
that
we
were
just
doing.
You
know
how
it
says
metric
one,
and
then
we
added
this
other
thing
here.
Whatever
that
thing
is
user
story.
Is
that
what
we're
calling
this.
A
D
A
Awesome,
definitely
that
would
be
wonderful,
and
can
we
all
like,
as
we
become
because
elizabeth
is
going
to
be
working
kind
of
alone?
Is
this
okay
with
you
elizabeth
to
like
take
kind
of
what
you've
done
here.
A
H
A
I
guess
maybe
the
one
thing
before
we
wrap
it
up
here.
That
I'd
ask
is
that,
like
elizabeth
is
you're
putting
yours
together
and
you
have
kind
of
a
way
that
you
are
feeling
like.
You
are
describing
your
metrics
model
and
I
have
a
way
that
I'm
describing
my
metrics
model.
You
know
I'm,
including
perhaps
a
new
subheading
and
lucas
and
kevin.
A
You
also
the
same.
The
likelihood
that
we're
all
going
to
land
in
the
exact
same
design
is
zero,
as
we
all
come
back
in
two
weeks,
and
so
can
we
all
just
kind
of
promise
to
do
this
work
and
then,
when
we
come
back
like
it's,
not
a
it's,
not
a
competition
of
like
whose
model
is
the
best
that
we
find
beauty
amongst
all
of
them
and
work
together.
F
A
A
A
B
I'll
do
it
right
now:
okay,
well
I'll,
share
a
link
with
you
and
you'll
have
to
request
access
so
that
I'll
know
the
right
email
to
use.
Okay,.
D
You
can
share
share
it
with
me
in
slack.
Yes,
yeah
put.
A
B
D
Gonna
stop
and
I
am
open
to
I'm
open
to
a
zoom
call
if
you
want
to
chat
about
it
further,
but
maybe
we
can
start
with
the
doc.