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All
right
so
here
we
are
feel
free
to
fill
in
your
name
on
the
attendee
list.
um
There's
a
few
items.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
others
that
uh
folks
want
to
add,
but
I
thought
we'd
just
start
with
the
software
as
a
service
effort
which
you
hui,
do
you
want
to
um
share?
Do
you
want
me
to
share
this
with
the
group
or,
like
I
said,
I
am
sharing
it
right
now,
I'll
put
it
in
a
I'll
put
it
in
a
link
in
the
minutes
as
well.
Just
to.
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C
Yeah
completely-
and
I
think
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
folks
in
that
that
meeting
that
aren't
able
to
attend
this
meeting
right
here
that
have
strong
feelings
and
would
really
like
to
participate
in
this
and
help
out
with
it
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
awesome.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
really
great
for
the
for
the
whole,
broader
community,
so
yeah.
A
A
A
A
How
to
refer
to
ourselves
so
um
and
and
if
you
have
a
strong
view
about
what
the
name
should
be,
that
would
translate
well
in
chinese
and
english
yahui.
I
I
certainly
think
the
community
would
welcome
that
as
well
like
we
don't
need
to
direct
what
it's
called.
If
you
have
a
thought,
I
was
obviously
riffing
chaos,
insights
off
of
the
subdomain
that
you
chose.
B
A
B
D
Yeah,
I
have
one
question:
how
it
is
different
from
the
one
you
uh
proposed
today
sean
in
the
meeting
about
that
uh
github's
uh
thing,
because
this
is
also
providing
a
service
that
one
we
are
also
planning
to
have
like
hosted
service
where
everyone
can
or
newcomers
can
use
it.
So
I'm
trying
to
see
some
connection
in
between
these
two
things
so.
A
Those
I
would
I
would
say
that
the
target
audiences
are
different,
that
the
target
audience
for
a
metrics
model
portal,
like
what
yahui
is
designing
here,
is
really
any
open
source
person
who
wants
to
look
at
the
metrics
for
projects
that
they
care
about
and
the
the
customer
for
the
it's
github
code.
It's
called.
um
I
can't
remember
what
it's
called
github
code,
because.
A
Code
spaces:
that's
that's
really
aimed
at
contributors,
so
people
who
want
to
contribute
to
the
project,
the
code,
spaces,
theoretically
or
hypothetically,
provide
a
way
for
a
new
developer
to
begin
contributing
without
having
to
go
through
all
of
the
typical
installing
of
all
the
things
to
make
it
work.
So
I
would
say
that
the
code
spaces
are
aimed
directly
at
contributors
and
that
the
audience
for
something
like
this
is
much
larger
um
this.
This
is
this.
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B
B
And
all
you
need
to
do
is
just
fill
uh
github
or
g80s
repositories
of
choice
to
this
service
and
for
the
rest
of
thing
you
can
pick
up
some
matrix
model,
you
you
have
interest
and
they
will
help.
You
generate
the
whole
result,
including
the
matrix
result
and
also
the
matrix
composed
of
this
matrix
model.
You
can
see
the
whole
pictures
and
results
and
of
yeah.
Of
course,
all
the
matrix
and
matrix
model
would
link
to
it
with
the
matrix
model
definition
to
get
more
help
to
understand
how
matrix
model
working.
D
B
A
And
so
I
think
that
all
of
that
is
really
great
news
and
positive,
and
I'm
looking
at
the
things
that
we
can,
the
community
can
help
with
um
and
I
think
we've
covered
the
first
three.
Are
you
looking
for
contributors
for
the
open,
metrics
model
in
front
end,
or
is
that
the
part
that
giddy's
engineers
are
gonna
work
on?
Where
is
the
I
guess
just
help?
Are
we
looking
for
developer
contribution
to
this
project
as
it
goes.
B
So,
in
order
to
to
make
the
whole
progress
quickly
and
deployed
in
the
deployed
as
soon
as
possible,
I
suggest
we
will
not
involve
so
many
contributors
outside
to
this
work,
but
after
it's
deployed
on
these
uh
deployed
already
deployed
online,
and
we
contribute
all
the
code
and
solutions
to
the
chaos
for
the
rest
of
uh
daily
work.
That
makes
we
warmly
welcome.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think,
yeah.
I
think
that
will
it
will
happen
faster
if
it's
a
closed
team
that
builds
it
at
first
there's
no
question:
okay,
yeah!
I
agree
I
just
had
I
wanted
to
ask
and
make
sure
that
I
had
that
clear
in
case
in
case
that
was
one
of
the
things
you
were
asking.
I
didn't
want
to
skip
over
that,
um
and
so
then
I
think
we
down
here.
A
um
Do
you
see
that
operating
out
of
this
meeting
or
the
metric
model
like
this?
Is
the
metric
model
meeting
at
least
tracking?
It's
the
beginning
of
the
end
of
the
day?
um
Do
we
want
to
make
that
uh
like
we've?
Had
we
had
a
lot
of
new
ones
that
we
looked
at
um
the
last
time
that
are
in
development,
and
so
I
think,
how
do
we
make
them
move
more
quickly?
Is
the
question.
B
Can
we
release
it
quickly,
but
this
is
just
one
of
the
you
know
decision
point
to
to
decide
one
matrix
model
to
be
released,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
um
some
different
types
of
metrics
model.
It's
not
um
it's
not
available
for
the
choice,
data
things
and
it
doesn't
means
this
matrix
model
is
not
good.
B
So,
and
also,
we
would
like
to
make
some
decisions
to
see
if
this
metrics
model
it
and
could
could
do
some
insights
work
um
after
they
provide
us.
Some
verification
results
upon
the
real
world
data,
yeah
and
feedback
from
users
yeah,
and
also
I'm
considering
that
we
can
provide
some
tryout
uh
area
on
the
search
on
the
service
to
let
people
to
try
this
matrix
model
to
get
fake
to
that
quickly.
Feedback.
C
Yahoo-
I
have
a
question
about
that.
um
Do
you
have
a
group
of
projects
that
are
going
to
opt
in
to
kind
of
be
like
our
beta
testers
for
these
metrics
models,
or
are
they
all
going
to
just
get
run
through
the
projects
that
are
on
getty
now
or?
How
is
that
going
to
work,
or
do
you
have
thoughts
on
that.
B
I
think
your
question
is
really
great
actually
for
current
current
tryout
in
the
in
the
pog
service,
and
we
we
select
the
top
7
top
1000
project
selected
by
getty
to
start
running
the
matrix
model.
We
provided
it
to
to
to
this
service
actually,
and
also
we
selected
some
famous
github
projects
like
uh
kubernetes
vs
code
there,
that
they
also
has
been
proving
that
they
are
successful
for
open
source
projects,
and
we
may
run
them
to
select
some.
C
C
A
B
Actually
you
can
you
can
you
can
try
by
yourself?
I
think
because,
as
I
mentioned,
we
can
do
some
tryout
area
in
this
service
to
let
people
try
out
by
themselves
like
a
beta
data
matrix
model.
If
we
think
it's
not
motory
yet,
but
still
we
we
see
some
value
of
this
matrix
model.
We
can
put
it
on
the
under
service
to
let
people
try
even
for
the
people
who
create
this
matrix
model,
to
allow
those
people
to
to
try
this
matrix
model.
C
A
B
But
we
haven't
decided
uh
to
follow
what
kind
of
progress
to
to
allow
uh
our
researchers
to
guide
this
data
site.
We
haven't
decided.
So
that's
why
I
mentioned
here
to
to
would
like
to
get
more
discussion
to
say,
okay
and
have
they,
for
example,
they
have
to
fill
a
form
to
say
what
kind
of
research
they
would
like
to
do,
and
then
we
prove
that
to
to
to
give
them
the
data.
If
these
these
people,
you
know
validate
their
initial
purpose,
we
have
a
right
to
see
some
the
legal
things
we
we
can
use.
C
B
C
B
D
So
my
question
is:
who
is
the
end
user
of
this?
Is
this
a
company
or
an
individual
or
the
researcher?
I
see
a
researcher
being
a
user
of
this
and
you
have
to
find
a
limitation
to
that
is
like
you
will
see
the
proposal
of
the
researcher
many
times
the
researchers
just
need
the
data
to
play
with
it
and
then
come
up
with
the
outcomes
rather
than
having
predefined
research
question
being
a
researcher
in
that
boat.
I
always
play
with
the
data
and
see
okay.
What
is
data
telling
me,
then?
A
D
A
That
way,
but
I
think
what
he's
saying
is
we'd
require
some
kind
of
framework
that
a
person
is
looking
at.
I
think
also
yahui,
we
just
um
in
this
in
the
sign
up
process
for
this
site,
uh
if,
like
I,
don't
know
how
it
works
in
china
specifically,
but
in
the
u.s,
essentially
for
whatever
the
terms
of
service
for
the
site,
are
we
just
indicate
that
um
you
know
the
repositories
that
you
track
will
be
included
in
data
sets
released
to
researchers?
A
Okay,
you
know
something
so
people
like
it's
full
disclosure
up
front.
You
know
like
you're
gonna,
get
all
this
cool
stuff
for
free
and
academics
may
legitimately
request
to
access
it
and
write
papers
or
whatever
it
is
they
do
um
like.
I
don't
think
that
would
dissuade
anyone
from
using
it,
and
if
we
disclose
it
up
front,
then
it
passes
all
of
the
sniff
tests.
I
encounter
in
my
work
here
as
an
academic.
B
So
um
if
I
have
my
my
initial
thoughts
about
this
part
is
that
if
you
are
the
owner
of
the
project-
or
you
are
the
community
manager
of
this
project,
you
can
you
can
give
us
the
uh
the
list
of
this
project
repository
and
we
can
start
analysis
around
these
repositories
by
using
some
some
matrix
model
and
and
if
all
the
data
is
public,
we
can.
We
can
share
and
open
some
public
results
to
everyone.
A
A
A
A
B
Actually
there
there
are
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
whole
things.
You
know
ongoing
work
and
maybe
I
currently
haven't
really
stalled
in
this.
I
I
I
I'm
looking
for
help
from
the
community
from
you,
but
the
working
going
on
you
know
we
wouldn't
match
a
lot
of
questions
around
this
work,
so
so
yeah.
A
B
um
I
think
it's
a
enough
and
also
uh
as
as
you
can
see,
that
you,
elizabeth
and
the
windowed
and
more
friends
here
have
already
heard
this
plan
and
in
the
next
community
meeting
we
can
get
together.
Maybe
I
can
join
the
meeting
and
we
we
can
propose
this
plan
to
to
everybody
in
the
community
meeting
yeah
to
join
the
discussion
together.
A
A
So
that
doesn't
surprise
me
necessarily
but
yeah,
it's
um
important
to
know
that
I
mean
I
certainly
think
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
going
to
provide
a
more
complete
and
richer
set
of
data
than
is
available
from
gh
torrent.
The
I
used
we
used
jh
toronto
in
the
original
version
of
auger
like
five
years
ago,
and
uh
there
are
a
lot
of
anomalies
and
issues
with
that
data
set
as
anyone
who's
worked
with
it
would
know.
A
A
B
Yeah,
um
I
I
I
I
um
wait.
Actually
this
quest
um
in
this
last
meeting,
if
I
remember
quite
correctly,
as
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
that
I
marked
some
metrics
with
the
yellow
yep,
that
should
be
the
new
matrix
yeah
and
we
discuss
it.
The
possibility
that
to
put
poster
to
the
to
the
evolution
working
group
to
make
it
that's
a
new
matrix.
A
B
A
A
B
Yeah,
and
also
I
I
noticed
the
the
male
letter
elizabeth
sent
to
reynard
that
some
matrix
could
be
moved
to
matrix
model.
I
think
that's
the
one
option
for
the
for
some
metrics.
So
how
is
the
working
going
on
about
this
part?
I
believe
more
matrix
would
be
moved
to
matrix
model.
Do
we
have
some
work
wrong
work
plan
around
this,
or
we
just
know.
A
D
Yeah,
so
that
was
from
the
value
working
group
uh
one
metric
we
have
released
as
a
model
like
I
have
already
submitted
the
pr.
I
think
that
was
merged
too,
as
a
release
model
yeah
and
for
the
other
one.
That
was
a
like
idea.
That
was
even
way
before
the
model
or
anything,
and
that
idea
has
been
just
sitting
ideal.
So
maybe
it's
time
to
bring
it
here
to
like
start
developing
it
over
here.
C
D
A
D
Yeah
no,
the
suggestion
was
like
the
working
group
can
develop
a
model
as
far
as
implementation,
like
software
implementation
goes,
that
we
can
pass
it
on
to
this.
This
model
working
group,
that's
what
we
did
for
a
model
we
developed
in
the
value
working
group
submitted
here
as
a
developer
model
for
the
implementation
by
this
working
group.
D
C
D
Was
like,
I
was
reading
tony's
paper
and
I
come
across
this
model.
That's
where
I
initially
uh
suggested
this
to
be
looked
after
as
a
model
proposed
model.
So
then
we
contacted
that
tony.
Are
you
interested
in
further?
He
was
not
much
interested,
but
they
have
written
up
and
published
a
paper
which
I
came
across
and
I
just
throw
that
idea
to
be
developed
in
this
model.
Working
group.