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A
Well
welcome,
since
we
have
last
seen,
yahui
has
slapped
I
hope.
A
Okay,
okay,
well
you're
out
you're
out
of
the
meeting
room
at
least
you're,
no
longer
you're,
no
longer
there.
The
background
is
different.
The
background
is
different.
That's
correct!
Yeah!
So
it's
good
to
see
you
again.
Bernard
thanks
for
joining
us
I
did
want
to
just
real
quickly.
I
wanted
to
tell
yahui
one
thing:
we're
going
to
be
so
we're
moving
forward
with
you
know
the
to
do.
Group
associates
program,
uh-huh
and
I.
Think
you're
on.
Aren't
you
on
the
to
do
group
board.
C
I'm
I'm
represent
to
Huawei
in
the
to-do
group.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
well
I
I,
guess
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
that
we're
gonna
there's
a
working
group
in
the
chaos
project
called
the
value
working
group
and
we're
going
to
be
changing
the
name
of
that
working
group
to
the
ospo
working
group,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
specifically
taking
a
look
at
the
development
of
metrics
and
likely
metric
models
that
are
highly
relevant
to
ospos
as
well.
So
there's
probably
going
to
be
some
overlap.
I
think
between
that
group
and
this
metrics
model
working
group
I.
D
A
Want
to
let
you
know,
because
you
I,
don't
you
weren't
on
that
meeting
the
community
call
and
then
vanad
I
do
think
we're
going
to
have
to
for
the
value
working
group
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
time
that
it
meets,
because
right
now
it
meets
at
I,
want
to
say
10
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Yes,
10
o'clock,
every
Thursday
and
so
I
think
we
might
want
to
be
a
little
tiny
bit
more
West
Coast
friendly.
C
C
C
Okay,
because
on
those
days,
we
have
a
risk
meeting
to
around,
which
is
around
one
that.
D
A
D
A
Cool
okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
because
I
do
think.
There's
probably
going
to
be
some
overlap
between
that
group
and
what's
Happening
Here
all
right,
so
I
do
want
to
say,
welcome
back,
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
had
this
metrics
model
meeting,
we
had
we're
at
chaoscon
last
time,
which
was
a
a
great
success.
You
can
find
the
presentations
there.
A
There
are
some
nice
pictures
on
the
chaoscon
slack
Channel
as
well,
so
it
was
great
again
I,
just
always
kind
of
like
to
say
thank
you
to
Elizabeth
for
waking
up
at
4
00
a.m.
Your
time
to
participate
in
chaos,
God.
A
So
you
know
I
think
it
was
just
really
a
great
success.
It
was
basically
sold
out
as
far
as
I
could
tell,
and
we
had
really
great
participation.
I
will
say
this
I
really
like
the
short
version
of
it
kind
of
the
small
version
of
chaoscon,
just
the
half
date.
I
think
it
creates,
for
nobody
gets
tired
by
the
by
the
end
of
it.
Everybody
still
has
a
lot
of
energy,
so
it's
nice
all
right,
so
I
thought
we
could
take
a
look
at
a
few
of
the
the
PRS.
A
A
I
am
I've,
been
waiting,
I
guess
since
last
time
for
a
review
on
this
PR
I'm,
just
trying
to
add
the
keywords
to
this.
So
if
somebody
could
take
a
look
at
that
and
give
it
the
old.
A
That
yeah,
that
shouldn't
take
too
long.
Thank
you
and
then
oh,
it's
look
at
that.
June
just
joined
and
June
there's
a
welcome
and
we
have
something
for
you
to
do
just
like
that.
A
C
A
So,
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
current
metrics
models.
We
have
so
I
I'm,
always
trying
to
kind
of
keep
the
work
that
we
have
here.
Aligned
with.
You
know
what
what
we're.
A
All
right,
so
project
engagement
was
one
that
has
been
recently
merged.
This
was
also
work
that
June
had
done
so
I
went
ahead
and
I
merged.
This
I
do
think,
there's
a
little
bit
of
work.
A
That
I
want
to
do
just
taking
a
look
at
this,
so
you
know
how,
for
example,
we
oftentimes
want
to
have
a
link
to
the
actual
metric
in
the
metrics
in
the
metric
model,
so
I
think
they're,
just
some
small
cleanup
issues
that
I
would
like
to
do
on
this
one
as
well,
so
I
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
that
on
as
an
action
item
and
I'll
issue,
a
PR
against
that
in
June
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
just
tag
you
for
a
review.
B
Matt
I
have
a
quick
question
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
know
the
answer
to
this
or
not,
but
in
the
new
website
and
the
new
knowledge
base,
we'll
have
a
page
for
each
metrics
model
right.
A
D
A
B
A
Is
the
only
one
that's
kind
of
lingering
in
a
stranger
form
than
the
others
at
the
moment?
So
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
I
I
went
ahead
and
I
took
a
look
at
the
definition.
This
is
for
community
welcomingness
and
I
was
trying
to.
We
didn't
really
have
a
definition,
markdown
page
for
it.
What
we
do
have
for
it
is
like
these
Jupiter
notebooks.
D
A
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
we
could
do
is
if
you
could,
just
if,
if
all
of
you
could
just
click
real
quickly
on
this
definition,
link
and
head
over
to
this.
A
So
this
is
again
about
community
welcomingness
and
if
you
could,
just
maybe
add
a
few
user
stories
or
even
just
one
or
two
that
kind
of
come
to
mind.
You
know,
as
a
newcomer
I'm
curious
as
to
whether
I'll
be
welcome
in
a
new
community
or
not
as
a
member
from
an
organization
interested
in
an
open
source
project.
I'd
like
to
know
if
my
employees
will
be
able
to
contribute
to
a
project
I'll.
A
A
If
you
like,
adding
anything
else,
please
do
Sean
and
Elizabeth
I
thought
as
we
are.
This
is
a
pretty
pretty
big
list
of
metrics
that
we
have
for
welcomingness,
which.
A
People
yeah
so
as
you're
kind
of
working
through
this
and
taking
a
look
at
what
you
can
actually
do,
even
just
with
auger
from
a
deployment
perspective.
There
may
be
a
few
things
in
here
like
that
I
hate
to
throw
out
a
Dei
related
metric,
but
that
are
not
immediately
measurable
from
something
like
auger.
D
A
So
just
as
you're
moving
through
it
just
try
to
think
about
if
there's
any
that
could
be
removed
just
from
a
let's
get
this
to
a
a
state
that
we
can
actually
use,
auger
or
more
lab
to
produce
the
results,
at
least
to
start
that.
D
B
A
A
A
D
A
Well,
if
you
could,
even
just
in
this
document
like
Mark,
what
you
think
should
stay
and
should
it
stay,
that
would
be
very
helpful.
D
D
A
A
A
Exactly
what
it
would
look
like
and
and
kind
of,
maybe
you
or
you
and
Elizabeth
Sean,
just
to
like
tell
like
a
bit
of
a
narrative
as
to
what
what
this
tells
us.
You
know
when
you
look
at
this.
Why
does
the
particular
graph
that
you're,
showing
us
around
like
these
things,
have
any?
Why
does
that
indicate
welcomingness
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
you.
A
Model
so:
okay,
okay,
so
okay,
okay,
AI,
let's
see
I,
will.
A
I
love
it
I'll,
try
to
fix
it
foreign
ly,
not
all
right,
all
right
cool!
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
we
had
a
couple
community
service
and
support.
A
This
was
one
also
Sean
that
you
had
recommended
that
you
were
going
to
take
a
look
at
yuhui
had
been
kind
of
working
through
this
and
you
were
going
to
give
it
just
kind
of
I
think
an
overview.
That's
what
I
picked
up
from
the
last.
A
It
yeah
that
would
be
yes
all
right.
That
would
be
super
helpful,
I.
Think
and
then
part
of
this
too,
was
you
remember
on
a
couple
of
the
different
metrics.
There
were
things
like
this
build
time.
I
think
downloads
was
one
of
them.
These.
D
A
This
is
a
list
of
every
kind
of
advanced
metric
model
that
we
have
with
metrics
that
don't
exist
as
far
as
I
understand,
so
I
tried
to
do
just
kind
of
a
cross-reference
on
the
models
again
that
were
pretty
far
along
I
didn't
go
back
into
the
metric
models
that
you
know
need
a
ton
of
work
and
then
I
went
through
each
of
the
repositories
or
the
working
groups
to
try
to
see
and
I've
posted
issues
in
the
evolution
working
group.
A
A
A
Okay?
If
because
it
might
be
helpful,
if
we
could
just
kind
of
and
I
I
can
help
too,
like
just
a
quick
template
out
some
of
these,
you
know
what
I
mean
like.
Sometimes
it's
just
getting
them
into
a
Google
doc.
That
has
the
template
with
the
like.
Sometimes
that's
the
the
first
step
that
we
need
to
do
just
so
people.
We
can
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
in
the
meeting
just
like
working
on
them,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
just
kind
of
template
these
out
pretty
quickly.
A
A
Okay,
yeah,
so
there's
an
issue
here
and
I
just
went
ahead
and
added
each
of
each
of
these,
and
then
I
did
the
same,
obviously
for
common
and
the
Dei
ones,
they're,
actually
not
for
metrics
models,
they're
actually
related
to
the
badging
program,
but
they're
slightly
the
project
badging
program,
which
I
guess
will
be
end
up
being
a
metrics
model
themselves,
but
these
are
currently
in
process.
A
C
The
way
for
the
Dei
that
that's
that
pattern
that
pattern
matrix
model
I
mentioned
in
the
chat
in
the
slack
channel
in
in
the
I
imagine
do
we
have
any
rest
apis
to
allow
us
to
fetch
in
those
data
you
say
which
Community
have
been
got
dispatched.
We
don't
yet.
A
C
Think,
okay
I
checked
this
like
please
say
that
we
may
discuss
it
in
the.
C
A
Put
it
on
the
agenda
for
tomorrow,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
just
I
think
Enoch
has
been
trying
to
wrap
up
a
few
things
with
respect
to
badging
that
it
wasn't
immediately
on
his
roadmap,
but
I
I
honestly
think
it's
a
really
nice
idea
that
we
could
query
the
basically
the
big
table
that
we
have
just
to
ask
for
that
data.
It's
public
data
anyway
and
we
may
as
well
make
it
available
via
an
API
and
I.
A
A
Right
on,
while
I'm
Elizabeth,
can
you
hop
over
to
the
Dei
minutes
and
put
that
in
there
really
fast?
You
know
what
I
mean
just
so
I,
don't
forget
it
for
tomorrow.
A
D
A
So
the
quality
guarantee
yep,
and
these
are
all
in
the
minutes-
and
this
is
pretty
far
along
as
well.
So
it'd
be
great.
If
you
could
give
that
a
review,
because
I
think
it's
I
think
code
code,
quality
guarantee
is
pretty
close
to
being
completed.
So
if
we
could
just
wrap
that
up,
that
would
be
really
great
and
that
would
that
would
kind
of
help
like
code
quality
guarantee
is
right
here:
community,
welcomingness,
community
service
and.
A
A
Which
meeting
agenda
like
just
this
meeting
agenda
the
weekly,
the
KF
weekly
Finish
Line?
Can
you
post
something
just
in
slack?
Oh.
A
D
Down
for
Thursday
tomorrow's
toast,
but
Thursday
yeah.
A
That'd
be
cool,
because
then
we
can
talk
about
them
in
two
weeks
because
I
when
I
get
to
the
website
stuff
I'm
we're
kind
of
waiting
on
the
website
redesigned
before
we
really
start
releasing
these
metrics
models
anyway,
like
I,
don't
wanna
try
to
release
them
under
the
current
website
structure.
A
Have
to
re-do
them,
because
this
is
all
happening
really
really
close
to
one
another.
No
timing,
wise,
so
yeah
that'd
be
great
thanks.
Sean
development
responsiveness
is
another
one
that
is
really
coming
along
quite
well.
When
I
look
here,
we
have
nobody
assigned
to
it,
but
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
this
is
at
least
in
a
definitional
form,
like
a
definition,
is
definitional
a
word.
A
definition
form.
C
Who,
who
help
us
to
create
this
documentation?
We.
C
A
Yeah
a
lot
of
stuff's
in
my
way
or
do
I
click
on.
A
Didn't
didn't
this,
this
used
to
be
called
just
responsiveness.
Do
you
remember,
and
then
we
we
started,
locating
it
just
on
the
responsiveness
around
the
development
activity,
so
it
was
like
Community
responsiveness
for
a
while
and
we're
like.
That
is
really
that's
a
probably
a
big
piece
of
the
pie
to
take
a
look
at,
and
so
then
we,
if
I
recall,
had
actually
spent
time
or
I
did
I'm,
not
sure
who.
D
D
B
C
A
That
I
assumed
it
was
for
me
yeah,
put
myself
in
there
too
I'm
pretty
sure.
I
worked
on
this,
and
please
add
yourself
to
this
as
well
all
right,
okay,
so
I'll.
A
You
take
a
look
at
that
and
honestly
that's
going
to
be
pretty
nice,
because
if
we
can
get,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
yellows
here,
I'm
just
trying
to
track
what
we,
what
we
have
we're
starting
to
get
to
have
a
nice
collection
of
metrics
models,
which
I
think
when
the
website
comes
out
will
be
kind
of
a
nice
offering
and
I
also
think
for
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
Yahoo
E2.
A
This
will
kind
of
give
a
nice
like
kind
of
a
a
robust
set
of
metrics
that
I
think
are
all
Deployable
through
it
of
a
system
like
Compass.
You
know
what
I
mean:
yeah,
yep,
so
okay,
cool
and
then
Community
safety.
This
was
one
that
we
talked
about
earlier
with
June,
so
June
was
gonna.
Make
those
comments
that
you
had
posted
kind
of
fix
those
comments
that
you
had
posted?
A
Okay,
so
in
the
in
the
last
bit
of
time
here,
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
kind
of
what's
happening
with
the
web
page.
This
is
back
to
your
comment
earlier
Elizabeth
with
respect
to
the
context,
tags
and
keyword
tags.
So
again,
what
we're
doing
is
the
for
the
new
website
design
we're
going
to
be
providing
a
kind
of
an
easier
way
to
search
for
the
chaos
metrics
and
the
metrics
models.
So
this
is
a
preliminary
look
at
at
the
new
site
design.
A
So
it's
a
series
of
yeah,
it's
really
nice,
it's
a
really
nice
Improvement
I
mean
the
work
that
everybody
in
the
website
group
has
been
doing,
has
just
absolutely
phenomenal
from
design
to
structure
to
thinking
about
how
we
present
material.
So
the
first
one
is
for
new
contributors.
So
if
you're
interested
in
in
joining
the
project,
this
is
meant
to
be
a
path
to
kind
of
join
there.
If
you
have
comments,
please
feel
feel
free
to
add
them.
A
This
is
this.
This
one
is
meant
to
be
for
existing
community
members
that
need
access
to
resources
to
kind
of
run
things
as
a
community,
and
this
is
access
to
the
metrics
models,
metrics
and
pieces
of
software.
A
So
when
you
click
on
this,
this
is
what's
going
to
be
the
knowledge
base,
so
you'll
notice
that
we
have
these
topic
areas
yeah
and
that's
what
these
context?
That's
what
these
context
tags
are
all
right.
So
the
idea
here
is
that,
for
example,
development
responsiveness
would
be
tagged
as
a
community
and
a
software
issue,
and
if
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
these
context,
tags
in
more
detail,
here's
kind
of
a
description
of
them
all
right,
and
so,
when
you
come
to
the
knowledge
base,
you
could
click
on
community.
C
B
B
C
A
So
basically,
we're
gonna
have
to
just
add
at
the
top,
just
just
the
keyword,
a
keyword
and
context
area
tag.
So
the.
D
A
A
That's
just
a
really
simple,
PR
I
think
we
can
just
kind
of
work
through
it
here
in
columns,
H
and
I
for
the
time
being,
and
then
we
can
just
give
any
any
one
of
us
just
the
action
item
to
add
these
tags
to
the
metrics
models
that
would
just
take
about
15
minutes,
and
so
the
the
key
word
that
I'm
sorry,
the
context
tags
do
come
from
this
predefined
list,
the
keyword
tags
kind
of
to
your
point,
Elizabeth.
They
can
be
anything
so
they're
up
to
us
and
so
I.
A
Definitely
my
thought
was
we
probably
want
to
include
model
as
a
keyword
tag
in
case
somebody
is
coming
here
and
they
want
to
search
for.
You
know,
models,
something
like
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
that
we
kind
of
help
we
can
just
show
it
like
I
just
want
to
see
all
the
models.
I
can
just
search
on
them
and
they
will
all
come
up
on
that
keyword,
search,
but
I
also
think
too
Elizabeth
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
I
mean
this
search
will
also
search
the
text
of.
B
B
I'm
curious
from
from
y'all's
memories
in
every
metric
model
did
we
include
a
case
study
for
pretty
much
every
role,
or
would
we
also
want
to
include
roles
as
a
keyword
tag
so,
for
instance,
if
I'm
a
community
manager,
I
can
just
go
here
and
type
Community
manager,
and
it
will
give
me
all
the
things
that
would
pertain
to
me.
Is
that
something
we
can
do?
Yes,.
A
We
could
do
it
right
here
in
keyword
tags,
so
I
mean
we
can
yeah
so
I
mean
the
context
tags.
We're
trying
to
keep
to
two
to
three
Kevin
wants
to
keep
that
a
little
bounded
for
a
reason,
and
so
then
like
we
could
do
I'm,
probably
not
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
metric
model,
but
Community
manager.
You
know
newcomer
so.
C
If,
if
we
are
thinking
from
this
angle,
then
I
think
well
in
all
the
models,
we
have
a
user
stories
and
if
we
have
a
user,
a
story
for
a
newcomer
or
for
a
community
manager.
That
means
that
needs
to
be
tagged
out
in
the
tagging
section.
No.
A
A
C
A
A
A
I
see
nods
so
I'm
I'm,
guessing
that
that's
okay,
yeah,
okay,
so
context
tags
are
from
the.
D
List,
as
requested.
C
So
just
a
thought:
maybe
it
might
expand
the
keyword
tagging
option.
I'm,
not
sure
just
this
thought
came
in
my
mind,
while
I
was
thinking
on
this.
So
if
we
are
using
different
Matrix
and
a
user
come
and
look
for
a
particular
metric
which
say
bursting
ads
and
a
burstiness
metric
has
been
used
in
two
or
three
models.
A
B
A
I
thought
it
searched
the
whole
text.
Sorry.
C
D
Know
who's
right
about
that.
Okay,
but
what
I
would
say,
though,
is
the
I
mean
the
keywords
are
definitely
a
place.
That
would
be
better
and
the
full
text
search
is
is
a
constraint,
Kevin
and
I
have
discussed,
and
it
really
arises
from
how
much
computing
power
do
we
want
to
have
behind
our
website.
Okay,.
A
A
A
Metrics,
it
might
be
things
like
review.
B
A
I
think
maybe
Bernard.
Can
you
ask
Kevin
if
we
can
do
multi-word
keywords
so,
for
example,
could
we
do
issue
response
time
as
a
keyword?
Okay,.
C
A
C
If
I'm
on
my
my
matrix
model
could
be
accurate
searchable,
so
I
would
like
to
add
more
of.
C
C
A
Solved
the
problem:
here's
all
here's
our
solution
for
you
right
all
right!
Well,
vinod,
can
you
can
you
just
post
the
response
in
the
metrics
model
working
group?
So
we
kind
of
know?
Yes,
yes,
I
will
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
would
be
great.
Nope
Sean's
gone
goodbye,
Sean,
okay,.
A
A
You
great
and
I'm
also
talking
to
to
Kevin
I'm
trying
to
change
some
of
these
terms,
just
to
be
a
little
bit
softer
like
I'm,
a
little
sometimes
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
maybe
people
don't
know
what
a
knowledge
base
is.
A
But
I
agree
overall.
This
is
just
amazing.
The
work
that
they
have
done
is
it's
really
incredible,
all
right.
Okay,
does
anybody
else
have
any
questions
on
that.
A
And
so
this
is
why
I
also
think
that
we're
just
kind
of
I'm
dragging
my
feet
just
a
little
bit
for
releasing
metrics
models,
because
I
think
it's
easier
for
us
just
to
plug
into
this
knowledge
base
approach
than
it
is
to
try
to
plug
into
the
older
website
design
and
then
rework
things
and
plug
into
the
knowledge
base
approach.
So
I,
that's
my
that's.
My
take
all
right
looks
like
we
have
one
last
comment:
there
is
a
Chinese
holiday
on
October
1st
through
the
7th.
Is
that
our
next
meeting.
C
I
think
I
think
the
next
meeting
you
mean
the
Asia
Pacific.
That
would
be
the
Asia
Pacific
meeting
yeah.
It
would
be
missed.
Okay,
what's
the
holiday
that.
A
A
A
Okay,
you
know
like
some
some
holidays
in
the
U.S
everybody
just
kind
of
stays
put.
Sometimes
you
just
kind
of
stay
where
you
are
and
other
holidays
in
the
US.
It
seems
like
everybody
goes
every
direction
so
like
the
Fourth
of
July
is
a
very
national
holiday
and
everybody
just
kind
of
stays
in
their
local
area,
but
things
like
Christmas
and
Thanksgiving
right.
That's
because
Mayhem
in
the
U.S
you.
C
A
So
many
people
I
like
it
well,
okay,
well,
then
enjoy
national
day.
It
sounds
like
it's
National
week,
but
that
sounds
quite
wonderful,
so
enjoy
yourself
in
June
enjoy
some
time
off.