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C
A
A
Yeah,
I'm
off
I'm
just
off.
If
everybody
can,
please
add
your
name
to
the
agenda
and
tell
us
something:
that's
good
in
your
life,
and
I
will
tell
you
what
mine
is
and
that's
this
right
here.
A
But
I
don't
I
don't
remember
having
them
before
when
I
saw
them
in
the
grocery
store,
so
I
was
extremely
excited
and
I
went
home
and
yes,
I
ate
them
this
morning.
So
maybe
that's
why
I'm
a
little
off
I
don't
know
I
won't.
I
won't
make
that
correlation
causation
problem,
but
they
are
delicious.
Nonetheless,
so
hey
there,
we
go.
A
It's
a
pumpkin
spice
party,
now
sorry
to
everyone
who
is
a
hater,
but
it's
delicious.
So,
okay,
it
is
the
actual
special
super
monthly
edition
of
our
community
meeting
where
we
go
around
and
do
a
quick
update
of
all
of
our
working
groups
and
get
everybody
caught
up
on
what's
happening
in
the
rest
in
the
nooks
and
crannies
of
the
project.
A
So
that's
what's
on
the
agenda,
if
you
have
anything
else
to
add,
please
do
that
and
we'll
hopefully
get
a
chance
to
talk
about
that.
A
So
without
further
ado,
let's
jump
in
so
the
first
one
is
the
risk
working
group
who
would
like
to
sean.
I
assume
that
you
would
take
that
gauntlet.
F
D
F
So
we
we
kind
of
had
a
bumped
up
our
meeting
a
week
early
so
that
we
could
get
a
one
more
metric
into
the
release
cycle.
So,
and
I
think
that
was
what
we
accomplished
last
time.
Yeah.
D
F
F
The
next
meeting
will
be
helping
sean
to
flesh
that
out
I'll,
be
at
the
event,
so
I
can
be
in
the
back
seating
questions
if
needed.
H
I'd
be
curious,
what
it's
about,
if
I
are
comfortable
sharing
them
yeah,
of
course,
thank
you.
D
So
we
submitted
a
few
things
and
some
just
why
don't
we
move
on
to
another
working
group
and
all.
F
Well,
the
risk
working
group
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
dependencies
and
we
spent
the
first
few
months
just
trying
to
agree
on
a
common
language
and
framework
and
a
way
to
approach
it
just
because
it's
fairly
untenable
as
a
concept,
so
finding
ways
to
break
up
categories
of
dependencies
and
then
how
we
might
actually
tackle
individual
metrics
within
that,
and
then
thinking
not
only
about
the
metric
but
sort
of
additional
filters
and
ways
that
you
can
provide
context
around
what
that
metric
means.
F
So
you
can
report
a
number,
but
what
you
do
with
that
number
beyond
flag
it
and
then
go
investigate
whether
or
not
needs
more
or
less
your
organization.
So
a
lot
of
our
discussions
have
been
trying
to
come
up
with
that
framework
and
approach,
and
I
think
one
of
the
goals
we
had
with
presenting
this
at
a
conference
was
to
kind
of
test
it
to
see
if
others
could
either
agree
or
come
to
agreement
on
what
we
had
proposed
or
suggest
ideas
and
concepts
that
we
hadn't
considered.
Because
it
is.
F
It
is
a
big
hairy
problem
and
I
think
what
a
thing
that
we
want
to
accomplish,
at
least
in
chaos
and
in
this
working
group,
is
just
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
have
agreement
in
how
we
talk
about
these
things.
And
we
spent
like
so
much
time,
even
discussing
like
downstream
upstream
terms
that
we
use
all
the
time.
But
when
we
talk
specifically
about
dependencies
how
to
make
sure
that
we're
explicitly
on
the
same
page.
D
A
G
B
G
I
know
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
translations.
Okay
I'll,
make
sure
that's
in
there.
Okay,
there's
plenty.
B
G
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
then
to
evolution
and
I'm
gonna
throw
that
back
at
sean
one
more
time.
D
That's
and
we
have
a
list
of
11
metrics
that
we're
working
on
for
the
coming
period,
so
we
encourage
you
anyone
that's
interested
to
join
us
at
our
week.
Our
bi-weekly
meeting
so
we'll
meet
in
two
weeks
the
hour
before
this
so
september,
21st
the
hour
before
this.
The
day
after
my
birthday
case,
you
want
to
know
wanna
give
me
something
on
my
calendar.
D
Yeah,
we
have
a
lot
of
unfinished
works
and
we
moved
the
meeting
just
because
it
was
on
a
was
early,
these
nine
o'clock
meetings
and
somebody
working
so
we're
hoping
to
draw
a
little
bit
more
interest
into
the
evolution
working
group.
We
have
some
exciting
new
metrics
proposed.
B
Are
how
are
you
feeling
in
the
evolution
working
group?
Because,
if
you
recall
like
when
chaos
started,
evolution
was
like
the
first
working
group
kind
of
out
of
the
gate,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
metrics
that
this
was
remember
array,
your
growth,
maturity
and
decline.
That
was
this.
This
was
this
working
group
and
there
were
a
lot
of
metrics
that
were
pretty
easy
to
yeah.
G
B
You
know
like
issue
related
stuff
and
pr
related
stuff.
Do
you
still
feel
like
there's.
D
There's
definitely
some
like
there's
definitely
still
still
a
lot
of
things
that
are
to
be
done.
Okay,
I
think
the
momentum
of
the
group
is
lower
than
other
working
groups
right
now,
probably
because
we
already
have
so
many
metrics
yeah,
and
I
think
you
know
there
might
be
a
general
impression
that
we're
done,
but
I
think
there
are
some
metrics
that
we're
looking
at
if
folks
want
to
take
a
glance
at
the
evolution
spreadsheet.
D
There's,
there's
11
that
we
plan
to
work
on
for
the
next
cycle
and
most
of
them
are
related
to
different
ways
of
looking
at
community
health.
Obviously,.
I
Okay,
as
a
function
of
participation
in
a
project
there
are,
there
are
a
lot
of
metrics
in
evolution
that
just
really
aren't
exciting
either
right,
so
they
need
to
be
defined
and
we
need
to
do
the
work
on
them,
but
they're,
not
they're,
not
super
exciting,
so
I
think
there's
a
a
little
bit
of
it
as
a
kind
of
we
just
need
to
like
put
in
the
work
and
define
some
of
these.
These
these
base
level
activity
metrics
that
we
all
know
exist
that
we
just
haven't.
We
just
haven't
put
on
paper
yet:
okay,.
D
So,
interestingly,
I
just
got
the
notification
of
acceptance
like
right
during
this
meeting
for
the
talk.
Congratulations,
and
it
is
exactly
the
talk
sofia
was
talking
about
what
happened
earlier
was
I
they
said.
I
was
a
speak,
we
were
accepted,
and
so
they
gave
back
the
money
I
paid
to
register,
but
I
guess
that
wasn't
actually
the
notification
of
talk
acceptance,
and
now
it's
just
flowed
in
right
here
as
we're
talking.
So
that's
why
I
was
confused.
I
Also
just
a
note,
libya
did
not
make
it
into
the
translations
repo
all
right,
I'll
fix
that.
A
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
if
we
released
five
metrics
for
this
release
cycle
so
and
everything
is
linked
also
for
all
the
working
groups
everything's
linked
in
those
minutes.
So
please
go
there
and
make
sure
that
you're,
you
know
giving
feedback
if
you
can,
if
you
have
time-
and
that
would
be
greatly
greatly
appreciated
yeah
that
we
did.
I
did
leave
space
for
the
dei
badging
initiative
later
on
in
the
agenda
today
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
separately,
but
we
can
talk
about
it
now.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
maybe
the
one
with
respect
to
these
metrics.
There
are
a
few
metrics
that
are
event
related,
and
so
now
that
they're
going
to
be
part
of
the
release,
I
think
matt
cantu
is
going
to
be
integrating
those
metrics
in
the
next
version
version
2.0
3.0
whatever
for
the
event
badging
program.
A
And
as
always,
those
meetings
continue
to
happen
weekly
so
highly
encourage
anyone
who's
interested
in
these
topics
to
join
at
that
time.
Yeah
anything
else
to
add:
that's
pretty
much
it
all
right.
C
I
C
I
C
Okay,
I'll
look
at
it
because
I
looked
at
the
chinese
translation.
Both
were
already
translated
in
the
chinese,
so.
I
Okay,
so
the
the
work
may
have
been
done
without
the
issue,
but
the
issue
does
still
need
to
be
created:
okay
I'll,
do
it,
and-
and
you
can
just
if
it's
if
it's
been
done
in
chinese,
just
make
sure
it
gets
tagged
with
the
spanish
language,
translation,
okay,.
C
A
B
Yeah,
probably
so
I
always
think
I
think
this
was
really
the
first
release
that
we
started
doing
translation.
So
it
was
nice
to
just
kind
of
see
the
process
with
the
folks
who
were
willing
to
do
the
chinese
translation.
So
maybe
this
next
round
we
could
start
kind
of
building
that
out.
B
I
Yeah,
I
agree
with
that
at
this
point.
It's
let's
see
how
the
release
goes
and
then
maybe
do
a
lessons
learned
and
a
call
for
the
the
spanish
translation
team.
A
Okay,
that
sounds
good
all
right.
Any
other
questions
around
value
working
group.
J
I
just
have
a
question
for
clarification
on
the
translation.
I
know
we
have
we
discussed
this
long
ago,
but
as
the
translation
is
getting
along,
is
there
any
kind
of
way
to
monitor
or
to
trace?
I
don't
maybe
trace
is
not
the
right
word
here
just
to
make
sure
what
is
being
intended
is
the
kind
of
things
that
people
really
translated.
Let's
say
in
mandarin
that
most
of
us
cannot
understand
any
product.
J
B
B
J
J
B
Say
like
something
like:
maybe
not
a
disclaimer
but
like
this
is
a
translation
and
something
may
be
lost
in
the
translation,
but
we
do
our
best
to
make
sure
they're
aligned
or
something
like
that.
Yeah,
okay,.
A
I
think
it's
helpful
too,
that
we,
we
have
actual
like
chaos,
community
members
who
are
making
those
translations,
so
you
know
they
they
understand
what
we're
about
and
what
what
these
metrics
are
are
supposed
to
represent.
And
I
have
seen
you
koi
make
comments
or
ask
questions
if
there
was
something
that
didn't
quite
translate
one
for
one.
A
So
I
know
that
he's
aware
of
any
kind
of
issues
that
may
not
translate
directly,
and
so
I
think,
when
he
posts
that,
in
the
translation,
repo,
then
the
whole
team
kind
of
decides
how
to
move
forward
with
how
it
should
read.
That's
kind
of
my
been
my
understanding
of
how
it's
been
going,
but
that.
C
Just
one
observation
to
the
translation
like
I
was
looking
at
the
translated
version
chinese
and
there's
a
google
option
to
translate
it
back
to
english.
So
when
I
tried
to
translate
the
chinese
back
to
the
english,
there
was
some
context
laws,
but
I
was
not
sure
because
it's
a
contextual
thing,
and
but
there
is
some
language
difference
when
you
translate
it
back
to
the
english
through
google
translation.
A
Okay,
we
can
move
on
to
common.
Then
common
working
group
common
had
the
most
metrics
released
with
six
total
metrics
for
review
matt.
You
want
to
add
anything.
A
Y'all
can
guess
who
had
that
idea.
B
A
The
winners
yes
they're,
the
winners
yeah
anything
any
other
questions
for
common.
B
B
I
will
say
this:
I
will
say
this
too.
I
am
starting
to
see
more
and
more
references
to
the
chaos
metrics
and
just
the
metrics
kind
of
serving
as
a
as
a
default
way
of
talking
about
community
health
and
like
to
sophia's
point
earlier
on
dependencies
like
how
just
this
whole
conversation,
it's
kind
of
wide-ranging,
just
health
in
general,
and
you
know
sometimes
more
particularly
like
sean
you
had
mentioned
commits
a
long
time
ago
and
sophia
you
mentioned
dependency,
so
it's
just
really
nice
to
kind
of
see
these
come
together
and
provide.
B
You
know
some
some
sort
of
of
language
that
people
can
use
to
talk
about
either
health
broadly
or
or
you
know
smaller
issues,
smaller
issues
like
dependencies
like
that
tiny
issue
of
dependencies,
but
you
know
like
kind
of
more
localized
things.
So
that's
that's
great.
A
A
So,
let's
move
on
to
metric
models,
which
is
our
newest
shiny,
new
working
group
that
we
have
not
sure
who
wants
to
take
this
one.
I
can
I'll.
B
I'll
take
this
one
so
to
this
end,
so
as
as
we
have
all
of
these
metrics
and
they
are
individual
metrics.
Nonetheless-
and
I
I
do
think
that
and
lucas
you
can,
you
can
add
too,
because
I
know
you've
been
part
of
these
conversations
that
sometimes,
if
you're
new
to
community
health,
just
looking
at
a
list
of
say
70
metrics
you're,
like
what
do
I
do.
This
is
like.
How
do
I
even
begin
so?
B
So
so
the
metrics
model
group
is,
is
really
looking
to
to
kind
of
bring
metrics
together,
bring
metrics
together
in
ways
that
are
meaningful
for
people
that
it's
not
just
a
list
of
70
metrics
and
we're
working
I'll
put
the
in
the
chat.
Here's
the
spreadsheet.
B
B
B
They
may
exist
in
dei
whatever
they
are
and
they're
brought
together
for
for
a
particular,
you
know
kind
of
why
you
might
care
kind
of
thing
in
that
column
c,
so
we've
only
met
twice,
something
like
that,
and
we've
made
really
crazy
good
progress
in
terms
of
thinking
about
how
we
organize
this
work,
and
then
kevin
is
also
kind
of
working
on
the
website
as
well,
so
that
we
can
filter
on
the
list
of
70
metrics
to
only
show
the
ones
that
are
kind
of
meaningful
for
a
particular
model
that
we
define.
B
So
it's
really
nice,
it's
a
way
to
kind
of
filter
through
sometimes
the
noise
that
could
be
70
metrics
to
somebody,
and
so
here
are
the
five
metrics
that
can
really
help
you.
If
you
care
about
this
particular
scenario,
may
not
be
the
five
perfect
metrics,
but
it's
it's
five.
They
can
kind
of
move
you
in
the
right
direction.
A
And
just
to
add
to
what
matt
said
we,
I
think
envision
building
those
metrics
in
a
similar
way
that
we
do
our
atomic
metrics
so
using
a
template
that
would
look
very
similar.
We
would
kind
of
go
through
that
same
process
and
not
working
groups.
So
if
that
is
something
that's
of
interest
to
you,
we
highly
recommend
that
you
join
those
meetings
and
they're
happening
bi-weekly
at
6,
00
p.m,
central
u.s,
central
chicago
time,
every
other
tuesday,
so
not
today,
but
next
tuesday
will
be
the
next
one
and.
B
A
Yeah
we
we
absolutely
need
to
get
that
on
there
and
also
the
agenda
may
be
a
little
tricky
because
it's
in
sharepoint,
not
our
usual
google
docs.
So
if
you
are
joining
those
meetings,
you
need
help
getting
access
to
that.
You
can
just
reach
out
to
matt
g
and
he
can
get
grant
you
access
to
those
agenda.
Notes.
A
Okay,
questions
for
that
group
who
has
questions
lucas
just
conveniently
dropped
off,
but
that's
okay.
We
can
still
answer
them.
A
All
right
well
we'll
move
ahead.
Then
the
next
group
is
the
dei
badging
and
matt
c
is
not
on
the
call
today,
but
I
can
let
you
all
know
that
they
are
definitely
looking
for
more
reviewers.
So
if
this
is
something
that's
of
interest
to
you,
please
reach
out
to
matt.
He
has
a
form
to
fill
out,
which
I
don't
have
the
link
to.
Sadly,
but
he
can
send
it
to
you
and
it
just
gives
your
you
know.
You
just
give
him
your
information
and
he
can
get
you
started.
A
It's
really
a
great
way
to
have
a
meaningful
impact
on
the
events
that
open
source
community
is
hosting,
because
we
have
seen
changes
being
made
to
events
based
on
our
recommendations
and
going
through
the
process.
So
it's
a
really
good
way
to
have
some
action.
A
If
this
is
something
that
is
important
to
you
personally
or
you
would
like
to
support
chaos
project
with
some
extra
time,
and
it's
not
a
lot
of
time-
it's
maybe
20
minutes
a
week,
maybe
so,
if
you'd
like
to
do
that,
we
would
love
to
have
that
just
reach
out
to
matt
canton,
and
he
has
it
all
documented.
It's
not
hard
like
it's
all
written
out
very
well,
and
he
will
help
you
train
to
to
know
what
you're
doing.
A
So
and
like
matt
g
mentioned
earlier,
they
are
re
doing
a
ver
next
version
of
the
badging
program
that
will
add
in
more
metrics,
and
so
it
will
become
a
little
more
difficult
for
people
to
get
that
gold
badge
we're.
You
know
asking
a
little
more,
a
few
more
things
so
which
is
good.
That's
how
you
make
progress
so
and
those
badges
are
versioned.
I
believe
so
that
you
know
people
will
have
to
re-apply
for
their
their
events
later
on
so
yeah
any
questions
about
the
dei
badging
initiative.
A
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
really
cool,
to
see
even
super
small
events
that
are
literally
just
through
meetup.com
still
applying
and
still
trying
to
make
it
the
best
that
they
can.
It's
really
great,
it's
really
great,
to
see.
B
I
totally
agree,
and
I
I
love
that
all
of
the
conversations
you
can
see
like
on
any
of
those
issues
you
can
watch
you
can
track
the
entire
conversation
about
how
the
badging
occurs
and,
like
you
know
you
like,
don't
forget,
to
add
a
link
to
your
code
of
conduct
and
the
response.
Like
done,
you
know
so
it's
kind
of
this
developmental
process
just
through
the
through
the
application.
It's
not
just
a
here's,
the
application,
no
conversation
with
badger,
we
don't
badge.
So
it's
really
great.
A
Nothing
all
right,
I
put
on
the
agenda
a
chaos
con
update.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
one
or
we
need
to
give
one
if
people
care
or
not
well,.
B
B
So
I
may
have
50,
because
I
can't
imagine
they
want
them
back,
but
I
may
have
50
with
the
too
high
logo
which,
by
chance
might
become
the
cool
t-shirt,
because
that's
the
mistaken
t-shirt,
you
know,
like
the
the
more
collectible
version
yeah,
the
more
collectible
like
the
upside
down
airplanes
on
stamps
yeah,
a
lot
of
money,
I'm
not
a
stand
collector,
but
whatever
I've
heard
such
things
exist.
Yes,.
J
B
F
We
have
some
things
to
discuss
as
part
of
the
the
committee
meeting
in
terms
of
tracking.
I
guess
the
general
update
is
that
we
sent
out
notifications
last
week
or
is
that
I
guess
two
weeks
ago,
because
I
was
on
vacation
last
week
and
ray
had
asked
everyone
to
confirm
by
the
end
of
the
week.
So
we
pretty
much
have
all
of
our
talks
confirmed
we're
still
waiting
on
some
attendance.
It's
showing
up
to
be
about.
F
50
percent
of
our
speakers
want
to
be
in
person,
so
that'll
mean
that
we'll
probably
will
have
some
interspersed
recorded
sessions.
The
I
think
that
most
up
in
the
air
is
that
emma
irwin
might
not
be
able
to
attend
who's.
We
wanted
to
be
your
keynote
speaker.
She
would
be
coming
from
canada
and
is
concerned
about
travel
restriction.
F
So
something
I'd
like
to
talk
about
in
the
breakout
meeting
is
if
we
have
any
sort
of
flexibility
of
format,
I
think
for
the
other
sessions,
I'm
okay
to
do
a
pre-record
and
then
either
record
questions.
I
know
we
talked
about
doing
that
sort
of
live
a
live
stream
after
the
fact
where
we
would
re-host
the
session
and
then
be
able
to
have
the
speakers
on
a
zoom
where
we
could
have
more
of
a
qa
afterward
to
make
that
more
interactive.
F
Just
because
I
think
that
in
person,
room
and
sort
of
the
live
stream
interactions
are
going
to
be
a
little
bit
awkward.
But
it
seems
like
we're
going
to
try
to
split
out
the
agenda
such
that
we're
not
sitting
in
a
room
watching
a
bunch
of
recorded
sessions
and
vice
versa.
So
we'll
have
some
interest
burst,
but
I'll
be
proposing
an
agenda
to
the
cash
committee
as
soon
as
the
general
meeting
is
over
and
we
hope
to
have
that
finalized
by
the
end
of
the
week.
So
we
can
put
it
on
the
website.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
sophia,
awesome
update.
We
can
go
ahead
and
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
else
for
the
general
meeting
unless
anybody
has
any
final
questions
comments.
Anything.
A
All
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
our
community
meeting
and
then
those
of
you
who
are
on
cass
con
committee,
please
hang
around.
Everybody
else
have
a
great
day
great
week,
get
some
pumpkin
spice
in
you.
You'll
feel
better
immediately.