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CHAOSS.Value.May.21.2020
A
B
B
Dash
of
chaos,
love,
okay,
so
hey
good
to
see
you
good
to
see
you,
we
were
just
gonna
start
building
up
agenda
for
the
day
check
out.
If
there's
you
know,
I'll
be
very
honest
to
say:
I
haven't
been
deep
in
this
repo
of
late.
The
chaos
Kass
is
getting
real,
as
smoothing
out
like
kind
of
incredibly,
where
we're
producing
almost
one
a
week,
so
I
think
I'll
be
able
to.
This
is
my
attention.
Windows.
A
C
C
B
C
In
fact,
I'll
share
yes,
I'm
gonna
help.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
absolutely
excellent.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
share
in
the
notes
what
I
shared
with
the
G
sock
student,
because
I've
been
thinking
about
network
analysis
for
a
really
long
time
in
open
source
and
I'd
like
five
papers
that
might
give
give
everyone
some
ideas.
B
B
Up
Gary
good,
we'll
want
to
just
check
back
to
you.
There
are
a
good
way:
a
number
of
pull
requests
worth
reviewing
and
kind
of
cruising
through.
The
agenda.
I
saw
there's
an
agenda
item
already
added
here
on
job
opportunity.
I
think
that
was
very
over
from
last
time:
okay,
great
right,
all
right,
so
yeah,
let's
just
start
looking
through,
we
left
off
Reese
entering
back
on
the
different
focus
areas
and.
C
C
D
B
D
I
just
make
my
appendix
answer
and
Pluto
yeah,
so
that
doesn't
go
like.
We
have
a
really
one
metric
that
we
have
released
and
treatment
of
this
area,
which
is
Labor
investment
and
other
videos
like
how
companies
are
driving
values
and
they
fit
into
this
employment
of
this
media,
and
then
we
can
think
of
different
metrics
in
that
domain.
D
B
B
B
A
Like
I
think
we
had
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
of
last
time
to
project
popularity.
Just
does
seem
like
a
very
meta
level
concept
and
pretty
unrefined,
and
there
are
so,
for
example,
your
share
of
voice
metric
bread,
but
we've
kind
of
built
up,
that's
considerably
more
precise
and
share
a
voice,
would
probably
be
part
of
project
popularity.
I
mean
it
could
be
an
indicator
of
that.
So
to
me,
project
popularity
needs
more
precision,
mm-hmm.
B
C
There's
a
so
I
added
a
bunch
of
papers
and
some
notes,
but
the
very
last
one
is
a
paper
about
understanding
popular
users
on
github
that
I
row
is
Kelly
Blanco
and
it
looks
at
how
popularity
of
people
actually
motivates
the
movement
of
other
people
to
other
projects.
So
if
a
person
is
followed
a
lot
and
they
move
to
a
project,
a
lot
of
people
follow
them
like.
So
if
you
want
people
in
a
project
like
developers
who
have
a
lot
of
stars
and
followers,
so
the
individual
and
it's.
C
It
we
pretty
good
that
was
a
survey
as
well
as
some
trace
data
analysis
and
so
I.
Think.
If
you
want
to
understand
students
to
popular
repose,
you
can
look
at
individuals
who
choose
to
move
to
the
repose.
If
you
want
to
look
at
what
repose
are
popular
I,
think
one
of
the
keys
is
really
the
I
think
flight
forks
are
not
a
bad
indicator
of
interest.
C
B
C
You
can
think
of
pots
to
the
value
I.
Think
there's
two
mm-hmm
one
is
contributions,
so
popularity
can
be
operationalized
as
contributions
which
we
can
see
through
poll
requests,
issues
and
comments
on
like
no,
the
more
of
those
that
we
have
from
more
more
people.
That
is
that
is
concrete
indication
that
it's
a
popular
project
and
on
the
sense
that
people
are
contributing
to
it.
C
I
think
data
there's
a
piece
of
data
we
can't
get
in
terms
of
people
who
are
curious
about
the
project
and
and
it's
popular
in
a
sense
that
people
are
really
interested
in
contributing
what
they're
curious
and
it's
it's
the
Clones
of
that
project.
So
some
people
will
just
clone
a
product
like
I've
done
this,
that
just
clone
a
project
to
experiment
with
it,
and
you
could
only
get
that
data
from
github
if
you
don't
have
a
role
on
the
project.
C
B
I
feel
that
I,
that's
a
great
differentiation
and
like
I'm,
also
like
the
the
working
group
advocate
of
me,
is
like
having
trying
to
ask
that
question
of
like,
but
why
should
I
care
like
what
is
the
there
there?
What
is
the
value
to
whoever
we're
presenting
a
definition
of
value
by
like
what's
capturable?
About
that
curiosity,
I
mean
attention
is
definitely
valuable.
I
guess
yeah.
The
questions
that
were
coming
to
my
head
is
like
from
the
perspective
of
I'm
talking
to
people
in
open-source
program
offices.
B
Right
now,
as
part
of
my
job
and
they're
in
partners
that
are
asking
like
should
I
like.
Is
this
a
valuable
project
to
contribute
to
was
question?
I
was
actually
asked
and
I
loved
it
because
I'm
like
oh
crap,
that's
a
that
implies
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
think
popularity
is
like
the
pass-through
for
that.
So.
E
B
E
B
E
E
E
I,
like
I
change
the
objectives
because
there
are
like
because
what
I
did
it
is
kind
of
like
a
synthetic
metric
like
you
talked
about
math
between
contributors
and
corporations
or
companies,
but
like
businesses
tend
to
like
forecasts,
a
lot
of
their
like
their
earnings
or
a
lot
of
like
their
actual,
like
directions
in
the
company
and
where
I
was
coming
from
on.
This
is
if
we
could
pull
in
day,
if
we're
pulling
in
this
data
from
you
know,
github
as
a
source,
there's
already
been
a
lot
of
extremely
you
know.
E
Good
projects
that
have
you
know
sustain
themselves
over
many
many
years
and
become
very
core
to
you.
Know
technology
as
a
whole,
and
if
we
could
a
great
that
data
and
basically
find
commonalities
between
that
data,
and
we
can
at
least
in
the
earlier
stages
of
projects,
try
to
find
similarities,
and
if
an
early
project
is
showing
similarities
to
you
know,
say:
kubernetes
right,
you
know,
is
you
know
a
bunch
of
those
grass
if
they
start
overlapping
a
little
bit,
then
maybe
that
project
and
specific
could
be
worth
somebody's
time
to
develop.
E
As
far
as
learning
that
skill
to
try
to
get
hired
later
with
that
skill,
if
it
becomes
popular
or
a
company,
can
use
that
to
you
know
see
that
that
maybe
that
technology
is
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
stick
around
in
the
next
10
years
or
so
and
then
use
that
technology
as
part
of
their.
You
know,
strategies
and
hiring,
or
you
know
using
that
as
part
of
their
workflow
I.
B
B
It
I'm
I'm,
like
torn
like
I
love,
how
this
is
matured
and
like
how
you're
presenting
it
in
the
part
of
me
is
like
well,
what
part
of
it
is
an
overlap
or
could
reimplementation
that
is
empty
and
and
like
which
part
of
it
like
I,
wonder
if
like
could
we
make
like
the
simpler
metric
in
this
spread,
they're
in
this
Google
Doc,
and
then
whatever
you
were
expanding,
that's
gonna
grow
into
something
more.
Could
that
be
separate,
I,
don't
know
where
those
lines
are
as.
E
As
I
was
like
getting
through,
it
did
seem
to
be
a
combination
of
a
bunch
of
different,
like
metrics,
like
a
bunch
of
different
sections
of
your
working
group
or
the
different
working
groups,
even
as
far
as
popularity
and
everything,
but
I
was
just
kind
of
grinding
through
it
as
much
as
I
could
to
try
to
put
as
much
singular
focus
as
I
could
for
the
living
wage
yeah,
but
as
far
as
like
the
data
collection,
so
very
new
to
that.
But
one
thing
I
did
have
on
the
data
collection
strategy.
I
tried.
E
Looking
this
up
right,
like
a
lot
of
people,
use
the
issue
opening
for
like
requesting
features
on
github
right.
They
don't
actually
have
a
feature
requests
and
when
I
tried
to
look
like
how
github
like
you
can
try
to
propose
a
change
for
github
it.
Basically,
you
just
submit
you
know
an
issue
on
their
website
through,
like
a
little
small
text
editor.
E
D
C
Metric
that
IO,
the
common
group
I,
think,
is
adjacent
to
what
Josh
is
expressing,
which
is
language.
You
know
which
languages
are
in
a
project
and
how
much
of
each
language
I
think
from
the
perspective
of
earning
a
living
wage
I
think
there
are
definitely
people
who
choose
what
projects
to
start
contributing
to
based
on
the
language.
So
right
now,
for
example,
newcomers
are
very
interested
in
learning,
go
and
so
go
projects
are
very
popular.
Nobody
wants
to
contribute
to
a
Java
project.
C
B
C
A
B
A
A
B
We
were
trying
to
track
through
that.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
a
knot
of
different
understandings
of
popularity
and
I
think
this
was
a
free-range
conversation
of
how
do
they
relate
to
each
other.
That
has
proceeded
to
lose
more
than
just
you,
so
that's
that
is
completely
okay.
So
to
reset
our
intention
was
to
talk
about
project
popularity
as
a
metric,
we
went
to
check
out
josh's
PR
because
he
has
project
popularity
as
an
element
of
this
labor
part.
So.
A
B
To
see
if
we
could
piece
of
art
those
two
and
then
Sean
was
bringing
up
how
individuals
influence
projects
popularity.
So
how
does
that
relate
to
it?
Overall
yeah
I
haven't
landed
on
a
place
where
it's
like.
Well,
this
is
a
very
clear
separation
of
one
from
the
other,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
get
to
like
thee.
What
does
it
mean
to
be
popular
and
open
source
like
that
does
seem
like
a
base
thing
that
we
can
capture
in
this?
B
It's
not
even
a
raw
metric
because,
like
everything
with
value,
already
comes
with
sort
of
a
ton
of
opinion
built
into
what
you're,
measuring
and
I
had
been
slowly
kind
of
stepping
towards,
like
I,
think
that's,
okay,
that's
kind
of
the
state
of
that
so
to
to
bring
it
back
full
circle
yeah
as
anyone
anyone
got
time
or
interest
in
contributing
to
project
popularity
and
refining
it
here.
So.
C
C
A
C
A
couple
reasons
why
but
and
so
that
I
agree
and
I
would
roll
that
into
project
future
popularity
probability
indicators
as
one
factor
so
that,
although
you
could
have
it
as
a
discrete
metric,
my
only
concern
with
it
as
a
discrete
metric
is
it's
about
individuals
instead
of
projects
and
I?
Don't
know
if
we've
stayed
away
from
that,
but
maybe
accidentally
until
now,.
D
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
C
A
B
A
C
And
we
so
I
would
just
say
we
can't
find
out
why
unless
we
talk
to
people,
so
we
probably
might
also
be
looking
for
some
kind
of
proxy
or
indicator
of
motivation
and
I.
Think
I.
Think
language
is
one
of
the
biggest
ones,
I
think
higher
ability.
If
you
see
these
projects
on
job
boards,
I
think
that's
a
factor.
So
these
are.
These
are
proxies
for.
Why
you're
down
in
the
metric.
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
A
A
A
So
they
exist
on
the
website,
but
there's,
but
the
goal
is
to
re
kind
of
republish
those
with
the
next
release.
Okay,
the
existing
set
of
metrics
from
what
I
understand
that
you
could
tell
me
if
it's
different,
but
we
would
keep
the
existing
set
of
released
metrics
kind
of
rethink,
how
they
are
brought
together.
Okay,
in
new
focus
areas,
exactly
right,.
A
Think
my
guess
is
looking
at
it.
I
think,
just
where
you,
where
you
start
is
at
the
question,
which
is
totally
fine,
I,
just
think
you
and
we're
trying
to
we
try
to
start
at
the
goal
and
so
I,
don't
think
I
think
we're
not
get
fired.
That
could
be
a
goal.
So
then
one
of
the
questions
that
need
to
be
answered
to
do
that
night.
You
you,
you
zero
in
on
the
questions
sooner
yeah.
A
B
Yet,
to
give
that
some
non
corporate
language
on
top,
so
normally
the
default
way,
a
fortune,
500
or
even
tech,
oriented
startup,
the
reason
that
they
end
up
funding
going
to
a
conference
or
an
event
or
or
attending
it,
sending
people
the
metric
you're
expected
to
bring
back
in
every
case,
I've
Asif
s,
hundreds
of
people
and
lots
of
different
roles.
This
it's
always
like.
Well,
how
many
leads
did
we
generate?
How
many
of
the
people
did
you
talk
to?
You
are
ultimately
in
the
sales
pipeline
to
purchase
whatever
we're
selling
the
SAS
product
related.
B
We
want
to
community
teams,
or
community
initiatives
are
and
not
aligned
to
sales
goals
on
their
own,
but
they're
still
valuable,
and
they
have
no
chance
of
communicating
value,
because
the
only
acceptable
definition
of
value
is
lead
generation.
Okay,
so
this
is
so.
This
question
is
to
to
help
foster
sales
goals.
Is
that
right?
It's
actually,
it's
actually
a
how
question
like
how
do
I
get
to
go
to
an
event
or
fund
an
event
without
while
staying
separate
from
sales
and
like
just
focus
on
this
community
effort?
That
is.
C
B
C
Put
some
things
in
chat
that
I
see
individual
value,
organizational
value
and
community
value
and
possibly
social
value
as
focus
areas
I
see
most
of
Matt's
metrics
guidelines
is
representing
organizational
value,
I
see
any
three
of
the
four
archived
metrics
being
or
two
of
them
are
at
least
focused
on
individual
value.
Yes
me
so
so
those
four
that
I
put
in
shout
our
candidate
ideas
for
why
focus
areas
might
be
great.
C
A
Okay,
well,
that's
great,
actually
that
so
in
that
that
kind
of
mapped
pretty
easily
you
don't
I
mean
like
I
can
metrics
that
you
want
to
derive
the
the
goal
is
to
improve
organizational
value.
Mm-Hmm
yeah,
the
metrics
that
you
want
to
gain
that
are
aimed
at
improving
community
value,
aim
for
individual
value
and
st.
for
social
value.
Sure.
B
Yeah
community
value
through
I,
don't
want
to
sidetrack.
It
like
I
I,
think
I
need
to
understand
the
nuance
of
each
of
them,
but
you're
100%
right
that,
like
I've,
been
thinking
of
the
value
working
group
at
differentiated
from
the
rest
of
chaos
by
being
like
specifically
oriented
towards
organizational
value.
Since,
since
my
interpretation
is
that's
a
bit
of
a
blind
spot
so
far,
and
it's
a
very,
very
common
question.
I,
like.
A
B
C
Yeah,
it's
repetitive
and
you
know
we're
in
the
value
working
Europe,
so
good,
community
social
organization
and
individual
I'm
gonna
do
a
pull
request
to
add
those
focus
areas
under
a
focus
areas
directory
first,
could
you
do
see
in
the
minutes
where
we're
at
here,
yes,
I,
think
so.
I
think
I'm,
seeing
here
yeah.
A
A
A
It
could
be
anybody
so
any
of
those
yes
fine,
so
we
then
have
kind
of
a
variable
set
of
metrics
that
can
help
if
you're
a
community
manager
determine
kind
of
the
internal
view
value
of
your
community.
If
you're,
an
external
person
like
in
a
nos
PO
right
and
you're
trying
to
determine
the
value
of
a
community,
there
could
be
a
different
set
of
metrics
that
you
would
turn
to.
So
what
is
what
is
communal
value
mean
Shawn.
C
A
Then
that
kind
of
looking
those
questions
that
you
had
the
even
posed
mm-hmm
prior,
you
know
so
as
as
these
goals
are
getting
drafted
in
the
different
focus
areas.
Do
these
questions,
for
you
start
helping
address
the
goals
as
written
you
see
them
saying.
Can
we
start
dropping
some
of
these
questions,
yeah
underneath
the
goal
so
like?
If
I
can
answer
the
question?
A
D
A
A
C
B
C
B
Yeah
I'd
say
like
it's:
it's
really
like
we're
either
slicing
it.
You
know
vertically
or
horizontally
and
like
let's
choose
one
right
right.
So
right
now,
I'm
still
wrapping
my
head
around
this
one
like
I,
think
of
it
like
I,
felt,
like
I,
had
the
horizontal
reputation
and
an
economics
in
my
head
and
now
I'm
like
trying
to
see
like
what
does
it
mean
to
separate
like
a
social
value
from.
B
A
Different
entry,
then
it
might
like
kind
of
get
the
real
it's
winning.
Well,
you
go
to
I'm
going
to
put
it
in
the
chat.
If
you
go
to
this
link
right
yeah,
these
are
the
public.
These
are
the
currently
published
value,
metrics,
yep.
Okay,
so
don't
worry
about
the
focus
area
at
this
point,
just
like
the
question
in
the
metric,
so
for
the
SCMS
we'll
just
start
with
that,
how
does
one
measure
the
value
of
community
interactions
that
accurately
gauge
trust
within
a
community
as
evident?
A
B
C
So
I
just
made
a
comment
because
I
wanted
to
not
talk
over
people,
but
I
I
think
I
think
you
it
is.
We
agree
that
reputation
and
investment
are
orthogonal
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
metrics
developed
under
each
focus
area
will
check
investment
or
reputation
or
both
and
and
is
princess,
is
the
presentation
of
that
matrix?
C
Well,
not
how
we're
doing
things
in
other
working
groups.
Is
there
some
value
in
explaining
what
value
is
to
not
trying
to
resolve
it?
One
way
or
another,
just
values
very
complex
thing
that
people
interpret
in
lots
of
different
ways.
Mm-Hmm,
like
I,
mean
there?
Is
there
any
complexity
in
this
working
group
because
of
how
like
what
value
is
just
means?
So
many
different
things
to
so
many
different
people.
C
How
this
and
I
think
there's
gonna
be
a
problem
for
the
whole
project
eventually,
but
it's
a
prep
out.
So
it's
a
challenge
for
value
right
now,
I
mean
I,
think
having
the
what
is
the
reputation
of
the
project
and
what
gets
people
to
invest
in
their
community
are
important
questions
and
in
these
focus
areas
don't
have
to
be
classified
under
those
questions.
They
can
be
some
different
level
of
explaining
the
working
group,
perhaps
yeah.
C
A
Though
I
mean
we're,
we
have
10
minutes
to
go
here's
what
I
think
wrap
up
here's.
What
I
propose
that
what
I'll
do
for
the
next
meeting
is
try
to
take
a
crack
at
these
questions
and
where
they
might
reside
in
the
defined
focus
areas
along
with
Matt.
The
questions
that
you
had
on
that
prior
page,
that
you
were
showing
yeah.
B
I
mean
the-they,
these
have
a
very
specific
lien
I,
clearly
wasn't
able
to
secure
funding.
For
it
event
when
I
wrote
these
down
like
it's
like
it's
a
there's,
there's
that
experienced
bias
happening
here
and
I.
Think
I
just
have
gravitated
towards
this
group
because
of
the
challenge
of
organizational
value
as
like
a
distinct
and
under
underserved
classification.
B
So
what
I
try
to
I'm
like
staring
I,
see
the
individual
value
ones
based
on
existing
metrics
I'm
not
drawn
to
them,
but
they
can
see
that
they
they
slot
in
there
very
well
social
and
community.
Still
the
cogs
are
turning
really
slow
for
me.
This
wording
on
how
how
they
want
be.
They
may
collapse
into
one
I
mean
yeah.
It's
totally
fine
I
mean.
B
It's
think
it's
very
smart
to
have
something.
That's
like
the
value
of
something
like
four
towards
society,
like
that's
such
an
element
of
what
the
very
thoughts
of
open-source
and
people
you
know
and
I
think
it's
healthy
to
separate
that
from
organizational
value
so
that
we
can
help
people
understand,
like
you
value
this
awesome
and
I
completely
agree
that
that's
valuable,
but
here's
how
your
organization
is
seeing
it
and
like
they're,
not
aligned.
They
use
different
metrics,
like
I,
actually
really
I,
like
the
possibility
of
those
being
complementary,
I
really.
A
C
A
B
B
A
B
C
B
C
A
C
A
C
I
think
the
two
questions
that
that
metroburg
has
right
now,
as
if
I
look
at
the
current
focus
area,
read
me:
I
I,
agree
that
we
don't
want
to
create
questions
above
above
focus
areas,
but
I
think
those
can
be
incorporated
into
the
intended
audience
section
that
that
those
are
you
know,
those
are
those
are
theme
that
reach
across
everything
and
we
don't
have
to
put
a
rut.
We
want
to
put
a
hard
classification
scheme
in
place
to
note
that
those
are
two
things
that
are
driving
what
we're
doing
here
in
an
introductory
paragraph.
C
B
Fair,
it
also
put
it
out
there,
like
I,
think
this.
This
revision,
this
page
here
under
metrics
pre-existed,
my
understanding
of
where
we're
going
so
proposals
to
edit
this
remove
sections
like
I
no
longer
feel
like
these
questions
are
well
aligned
to
what
we're
talking
about.
I'd,
really
love
to
see
a
change
and
I
have
no
ego
attached
to
it
whatsoever.
B
C
A
B
Just
a
little
bit,
I,
just
I
think
it's
starting
to
wrap
my
head
around
it.
So
how
does
one
so
a
possible
community
value?
That's
separate,
maybe
it's
a
social
value,
that's
from
getting
stuck,
though,
let's
call
it
a
community
value
of
like
this
community
is
diverse
and
inclusive,
as
we
measured
by
the
the
DNI
community
group
like
how
does
the
interrelation
like?
Would
we
have
a
metric
in
this
group
pointing
back
to
that
one
in
some
sense
or
account
I
think
that
slice
work
that
possibly.
C
A
B
Yeah
because
I'm,
like
I,
think
people
I
know
people
I
know
a
lot
of
people
that,
like
they're
like
well
I,
don't
want
to
join
this
group
if,
because
it's
a
bunch
of
white,
dudes
and
and
I
not
to
us
I
mean
in
general,
like
they
go
to,
they
see
a
group
of
people
there,
like
that.
No
none
of
these
people
are
representative
of
me,
like
I,
will
feel
like
an
outsider.
I'll
go
somewhere
else,
because
there
are
lots
of
others
communities,
okay,
yeah.
B
B
B
Next
meetings
scheduled
two
weeks
out,
yep
and
I'll,
facilitate
that
one.
If
you'd
like
please
yeah
that'd,
be
great
I'll
just
add
the
notes
well
like
set
up
notes
to
just
kind
of
continue
this
conversation,
because
it's
such
a
good
focus
in
the
meantime,
I'll
just
comment
on
existing
pr's
like
saying
like:
hey,
we're,
taking
step
back
and
looking
at
focus
groups.
Here's
here's
what
we
have
so
far.
You
don't
have
to
just
give
people
some
heads
up
yeah
that
sounds
good.
I
got
a
run
on
my
next
meeting
yeah
same
here.
Thank
you.