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From YouTube: CHAOSS Value Working Group 1-28-21
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A
Welcome
everyone:
this
is
my
first
time
hosting
vp
second
time
but
hosting
it
as
a
value
group
contender
for
the
first
time,
so
a
little
nervous,
hopefully
you'll
all
support
me.
B
Well,
I
I
was
I
we
will
support
you.
I
was
not
a
girl,
but
we
will
thank.
C
A
D
E
G
So
social
listening
is
the
old
scm.
They
they
renamed
it.
I
don't
know
if
it's
in
the
spreadsheet.
Let
me
look.
I'm.
E
H
E
A
A
G
G
So
I
will
say
I'm
not
sure
how
much
this
group
has
met
over
the
past
month
and
a
half,
because
the.
G
So
it's
met
regularly.
I
mean
there
were
at
least
two
to
three
weeks
off
over
the
over
the
holidays.
B
E
G
B
G
G
Did
the
community
handbook
maybe
need
some
edits
on
that
if
it's
gonna.
G
No,
no
send
me
an
email,
it
the
it
probably
needs
it
probably
needs
some
edits.
So
I've
been
I'll
I'll.
Think
about
that.
Okay,.
G
B
B
B
H
E
B
G
E
G
H
A
Should
we
call
it
like
contributor
development
influence.
C
E
G
On
a
second,
we
don't
have,
I
mean
we
only
have
a
few
days
really
before
the
freeze
is
is,
is
it
worth
trying
to
rush
these
through
or
should
we
maybe
think
about
kind
of
slowing
down.
G
B
B
A
E
I
mean
it's
really,
it's
it's
a
it's
an
another
synthetic
metric
that
takes
a
metrics
that
exist
elsewhere
and
assembles
them
together.
G
Into
why
is
development
in
the
title?
Is
this?
If
it's
just
capturing
usage,
why
are
we
talking
about
development
hold
on?
Can
I
can
I
just.
B
Finish
my
thoughts,
I'm
just
trying
to
interrupt
you
all
day,
I'm
just
gonna
try
I'm
trying
to
get
through
like
two
metrics,
so,
okay,
so
let
me
so
we
have
contributor,
we
have
project
development
and
usage
and
again
that
one
seems
to
be
pretty
well
along,
irrespective
of
the
name
at
this
point.
So
we
can
sort
this
out.
B
We
also
have
contributor
development
influence
and
this
one
doesn't
seem
to
be
quite
as
far
along.
It
seems
like
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
attention,
so
maybe
yeah.
So
maybe
the
proposal
would
be
is
if
we
do
want
to
have
a
value
metric.
That's
part
of
the
release.
We
take
the
one
project,
development
and
usage
and
kind
of
focus
on
this
to
start,
and
then
perhaps
we
may
not
have
time,
but
maybe
next
time
around
we
could
start
concentrating
on
48
row.
48..
G
B
A
Yeah
so
I
have
mad,
but
instead
of
putting
it
on
the
google
doc,
he
directly
put
it
on
the
this
hack
md,
dot,
io
for
editing
and
just
creating
a
markdown.
B
E
H
E
E
E
Crossing
that
out,
because
it's
redundant
with
what's
below
your
move
to
implementation,
okay,.
H
G
Yeah,
I
think
so,
but
I
should
we
should
keep
in
mind
that
this
entire
metric
is
basically
project
popularity
and
we're
using
it
as
a
proxy
to
understand
project
usage
right.
So.
G
E
I
think
the
when
I
was
reading
through
it.
I
think
the
intention
is
it's
developer
engagement.
E
It
is
there's
a
development
component,
you
know
it's,
our
developers
are
people
contributing
code
and
other
things
to
this
project
and
how
many
of
them,
and
how
often
and
how
has
that
changed
from
period
a
to
period
b,
and
it
gives
you
a
comprehensive
view
of
many
atomic
metrics,
which
is
different
than
I
mean.
We've
done
this
in
this
working
group
before.
G
I
guess
I
would
be,
I
would
be
more
comfortable
calling
it
developer
engagement
and
then,
in
the
description
we
talk
about
project
popularity,
usage
and
development
activity
as
a
as
indicators
of
this
activity
together.
G
We
need
to
pick
a
word,
so
I
mean.
G
The
you
could
even
call
forks
popularity
how
many
followers
the
usage
is
downstream
utilization,
which
would
be
really
hard
to
capture
engagement,
stuff,
we're
looking
at
the
number
of
contributors,
the
number
of
issues,
the
number
of
pull
requests.
G
I
mean:
is
it
actually,
it's
not
even
really
developer
engagement.
This
is
kind
of
this
is
project.
This
is
kind
of
the
size
of
a
project
right
so
and
because
we
can't-
because
we
can't
really
say
a
project-
is
large,
medium
small,
we're
just
kind
of
looking
at
this-
we're
we're
kind
of
judging
the
the
size
of
the
project
by
the
activity
that's
associated
with
it.
C
C
H
G
I
don't
I
don't
know
that
it
fits
usage
completely,
it
fits
popularity
closer,
but
what
is,
but
I'm
not
even,
but
I'm
not
sure
why
popularity
would
even
be
an
important
metric
if
we
look
at
the
implementation,
the
things
that
the
things
that
we're
seeing
here
it
might
answer
for
me.
It
might
answer
questions
like
how
large
is
this
project
or
how
important
is
this
project?
G
G
C
So
what
I
remember,
matt
roberg
sharing,
is
that
project
popularity
is
used
as
a
shortcut
as
a
proxy
or
a
heuristic
for
deciding
which
projects
to
use
which
projects
to
fund
which
projects
to
engage
with
and
because
there
is
a
positive
feedback.
Loop
of
more
popularity,
more
users,
more
developers,
more
funding,
equals
more
popularity.
C
B
G
Okay,
so
I'm
fine
with
that,
so
that
makes
sense
because
then
we're
the
everything
is
connected
again.
So
I
think
I
think
we.
G
With
the
the
development
and
usage
part.
B
C
The
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
reason
we
separated
popularity
out
was
because
there
are
the
popularity
of
users
like
c
curl
is
in
pretty
much
every
open
source
linux
distro,
but
then
from
a
development
perspective,
it's
one
developer,
so
the
popularity
is
different
from
a
usage
and
from
a
development
perspective,
but
we
don't
have
to
separate
that
out
here.
We
can
just
say
there
is
such
a
thing
as
project
popularity.
H
G
H
H
H
E
E
Be
missing
our
filters
or
change
requests?
Yes,
change
requests,
however
yeah.
I
don't
see
any
filters
for
time
or
parameters
for
time
seems
like
that
is
really
important
for
this
metric.
E
B
And
I'm
okay
with
this
list,
yeah,
I'm
okay
with
this
list.
B
H
H
B
B
G
G
B
G
G
A
C
H
E
G
I'm
assuming
he
read
that
in
the
the
well-documented
handbook
on
on.
G
J
So
so
here's
a
weird
question
kind
of
outlying
but
might
be
it
might
be
more
common
later
so.
J
J
Doc
analysis
of
thon,
where
they
wanted
to
crowdsource
a
group
of
people
who
would
look
at
the
applications
to
be
accepted
for
consideration
as
a
digital,
public,
good
and
the
standards
by
which
those
projects
would
meet
right.
They
wanted
to
crowdsource
the
cross-referencing
to
make
sure
that
potential
dpgx
was
actually
following
the
form
on
their
submission
or
had
checked
all
the
boxes
on
their
submission
and
and
to
encourage
these
kinds
of
contributions
for
a
window
of
time.
They
were
offering
a
coin
of
some
crypto
currency.
J
I
cannot
remember,
but
I
can
find
the
the
post
I
mean
in
addition
to
stars,
are
we
gonna
have
to
at
some
point
track?
Coins
earned
or
coins
generating
coins
are
value
for
what
it's
worth.
I
don't
know
how
much
of
an
outlier
it
is
now
and
whether
it'll
stay
an
outlier
or
not,
but
give
me
a
second
I'll
drop,
a
link
into
the
chat
that
shows
what
they
were
doing.
J
B
G
Real
quick
did
we
want
to.
Did
we
want
to
talk
about
potentially
moving
the
meeting?
I
know
stephen
had
voiced
a.
J
J
The
the
impact
academic
group
meets
on
alternating
second
thursdays
in
this
time
slot.
So
if,
if
there
was
a
way
to
move
one
or
the
others
of
those
up
an
hour
or
on
to
the
other
two
weeks,
it
would
be
easier
for
me
to
hop
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
my
tail
wagging
the
dog
either.
You
can
probably
stop
the
recording.