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CHAOSS.Value.June.4.2020
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A
So
I
added
up
so
we
had
talked
about
a
different
focus
areas,
social
value,
organizational
value,
individual
value,
then
I
added
community
value
as
well,
and
then
I
had
a
couple
lingering
metrics
that
were
in
there
kind
of
in
that.
If
you
look
at
value
the
value
tab
at
the
bottom,
you
can
see
what
things
used
to
look
like
and
copy
of
value
is
needed.
B
A
A
F
A
A
Sure
so
my
my
thought
was
that
we
have
individual
value.
That's
the
human
right,
just
that
person
that
singular
person
organizational
value
to
me
is
the
company,
so
that
takes
care
of
those
two
right
there.
Social
value
to
me
is
having
an
impact
in
the
world
beyond
just
a
company
but
actually
having
some
sort
of
social
justice
component
social
value
component,
something
that's
larger
than
the
project
itself
and
community
value
is
it's
trying
to
determine
value
specifically
on
that
open
source
community.
A
D
Okay,
so
these
are
different
categories.
Different
buckets
of
saying,
like
hey
so-and-so
like
see,
this
is
valuable
and
like
I'm,
assuming
in
each
case
like
what
you
perceive
is
valuable.
Are
you
after
social
value,
when
you
say
value
or
you
have
to
organizational
value
or
after
community
value
or
individual
time.
F
D
E
A
A
What
might
be
we
could
be
so
I
mean
there
is
so
if
we
were
gonna
do
social
justice
work
that
would
be
measuring
our
impact
on
improving
social
justice
for
folks.
So
if
we
wanted
to
use
chaos
metrics
as
a
way
to
demonstrate
the
that
there's
an
improvement
in
contributions
from
people
from
say,
the
global
South
say
that
was
what
the
chaos
project
wanted
to
do.
That
would
be
something
that
we
would
want
to
look
at
and
understand
from
a
social
impact
or
social
value
perspective.
It's.
D
A
So
if
you
so,
the
idea
would
be
as
if
you
as
a
person
are
coming
at
these
at
the
coming
to
the
chaos
project
know
like
I
would
like
to
determine
get
a
better
understanding
of
organizational
value
right.
So
what's
the
value
that's
associated
organizationally
here
are
some
of
the
metrics
that
can
help
provide
insight
on
organizational
value.
A
So
if,
if
I
was
an
external
observer
and
I
was
gonna,
look
at
an
open
source
project
right,
open
source
project,
a
whatever
that
project
might
be
and
I
want
to
determine
the
social
value
that
that
project
has
with
that,
that
would
be
a
question.
I
would
ask
right:
that's
actor.
Is
this:
is
this
project
having
an
impact
on
society
at
large?
A
So
I
I'm
getting
a
little
bit
of
just
confusion
in
my
own
head,
so
in
part
of
its
the
directionality
of
column
a
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
the
project
has
impact
on
society
right.
That's
the
pressure,
the
project
kind
of
going
that
way.
Organizational
value
is
slightly
different
right.
It's
understanding
what
an
organization
can
derive
your,
how
can
derive
from
the
project.
A
So
it's
you
see.
The
directionality
is
a
little
bit
different
there,
one
as
I'm
standing
inside
of
the
organization
saying
what
what's
the
value
that
I
can
derive
from
this
project:
mm-hmm
Society,
I'm
kind
of
standing
in
the
community,
almost
saying:
what's
the
impact
that
this
community
has
in
society,
maybe
I'm
overthinking
it,
but.
F
D
A
D
B
E
E
D
A
D
Yes,
yeah
school,
yeah
I,
don't
want
to
layer
too
much
on
top
there,
but
I
was
thinking
about
the
same
thing,
but
with
like
sheriff
voice.
My
intention
there
was
like
I
think
of
it
as
an
organizational
value
like
your
because
you're
you're,
showing
that
your
org
is
winning
quote
unquote
in
this.
You
know
it's
very
militaristic
kind
of
freedom.
D
F
D
Just
in
the
think
out
loud
stage,
yep,
that's
making
sense
of
people
think,
and
this
really
hits
home
of
like
earning
potential
like
is
such
a
great
I
know.
The
note
I
think
you
brought
this
up
a
couple
times.
It
just
makes
total
sense
like
in
the
context
of
individual
value.
That's
like
such
an
amazing
metric
to
have
off
the
top
of
your
head
you're
like
what's
my
earning
potential,
if
I
think
up
this
job
versus
this
other
one
yeah
people
think
like
that
yeah
we're
all
somewhat
playing
the
game
when.
A
D
We're
gonna
ditional
project
skill
demand,
I
mean
skill.
Demand
and
earning
like
earning
potential
sounds
like
the
metric
would
be
like
in
a
salary
range
project.
Skill
demand,
I,
don't
know
what
is
that,
like
a
scale
from
one
to
100,
I,
think
it
really
depends
on
what
the
actual
metric
isn't
cool
is
there
can
I
add
a
comment
for
like
metric
type
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
completely
bastardizing
this.
D
F
So
well,
while
you're
doing
that,
can
I
talk
about
the
other
suggestions
of
moving
so
in
social
value.
If
the
question
is
impact
on
Internet,
Society
or
justice
idea
at
large,
then
I
think
the
social
currency
metric
system
does
not
belong
in
there.
As
that
is
look
at
the
community
and
through
social
listening
on
what
is
going
inside
the
community
and
to
understanding.
D
D
F
B
D
It's
I
think
like
the
the
metric
itself,
like
the
is
the
you
know,
percentage
of
conversation,
around
topics
of
interest,
I,
don't
know
the
link
on
that
one's
broken
to
have
to
all
users.
Today,
yeah
there
we
go,
but
yet
so
I'm
pretty
sure
the
the
final
metric
has
to
do
with
the
value.
I
mean
sorry.
D
The
big
conversation
around
topics
which
me
like
organizationally
I
can
we
can
definitely
rule
that
one
out
organizations
don't
total
care
about
what
people
are
talking
about
like
that's,
you
have
to
decide
what
value
is
before
you
get
to
anywhere.
Their
social
impact
is
kind
of
hard
to
push
because,
like
what's
the
social
impact
of
people
talking
on
its
own,
so
I
start
to
get
towards
like
yeah
like
the
is
the
community
kind
of
goes
into
Community
Health
in
my
head.
Are
they
talking
about
healthy
things,
so.
B
B
Yeah
this
is
a
even
bigger
than
the
last
time
I
saw
it
I
mean
the
discussions
I
remember
on
it,
we're
really
into
metaphorically
to
brand
value,
and
things
like
that
and
I
think
yeah,
it's
bigger
than
any
of
the
other
categories
is
then
social
value
means,
but,
like
I,
don't
think
it
fits
I
think
it's
too
big
to
fit
anywhere
else,
but
social
value.
Just
because
I
think
organizations
look
at
their
engagement
with
a
project
in
a
similar
way
and
individuals
look
at
their
engagement
and
social
metrics
in
a
similar
way.
D
D
A
F
A
listening
tool,
social
listening
tool
and
then
to
get
metrics
out
of
what
the
community
is
talking
about,
how
they're
interacting
what
their
opinions
are.
So
I
I
don't
see
that
having
any
impact
on
the
social
value
on
the
society
it
can
have
impact
on
organizations
it
can
have
impact
on
individuals,
but
I.
Think
community
is
the
most
fitting.
F
D
D
A
Like
like,
if
I'm
in
the
chaos
project,
I
care
how
popular
your
project
is,
I
just
I
do
I
do.
B
B
D
Yeah
I
think
of
organizational
value,
as
it
will
depend
on
raw
data
from
elsewhere,
but
then
it
has
to
scent
synthesize
into
something
that
is
perceived
as
valuable
on
its
own.
This
was
been
my
hope
for
it.
An
issue
can't
commit
count
stuff
like
that.
Just
is
not.
It
definitely
feeds
into
a
narrative
but
like
it
holds
no
narrative
on
its
own
I.
B
F
B
A
F
G
D
B
D
D
I
D
D
I
mean
I
think
that
that
actually
is
very
aligned
to
the
history
of
value
groups
like
it.
Almost
everything
fell
into
this
like
individual,
individualistic
idea
of
like
how
do
I
monetize
my
skills,
yeah
and
like
when
I
joined.
It's
because
I
was
really
interested
in
the
organizational
value
and
but
then
I
lost
the
context
before
it.
So
now,
we're
kind
of
you
know,
building
the
Kaleidoscope
out
so.
F
Proposal,
here's
to
keep
it
in
social
value,
because
here
it's
having
impact
on
more
than
just
the
individual,
it's
having
impact
on
organizations,
it's
the
community's
thriving
because
it's
popular
and
it
has
that
been
dragon
effect
where
just
because
it
is
popular,
it
starts
to
draw
in
people
and,
at
the
same
time,
people
start
to
copy
what
has
made
it
so
popular.
So
it's
having
a
larger
impact
on
others.
D
Okay,
so
I
I
think
we're
finding
or
I'm
finding
right
now
is
that
it
really
depends
how
the
metrics
written
we're,
because,
like
to
your
point,
the
voice
could
be
any
one
of
these
for
most
of
them
and
that's
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
bug.
I
think
it
might
be
a
feature
like
we'll
just
map
it
out
to
an
individual
goal
and
people
use
it
in
other
categories
by
tweaking
it.
A
Are
there
I
guess
a
question
for
you
Georg
like
to
me
social
value?
The
way
that
we've
been
talking
about
it,
at
least
today,
is
this
open
source
project
is
improving
the
lives
of
people
yeah
and
not
just
to
make
money,
but
to
improve
access
for
people
to
help
raise
the
voices
of
underrepresented
groups
that
otherwise
couldn't
be
raised.
E
E
A
A
A
Participating
in
in
tech,
related
work
is,
is
not
equally
distributed
across
the
globe,
and
so
different
places
in
the
globe
have
different
access
to
technology.
They
have
different
access
to
the
way
that
work
gets
done,
and
so
is,
is
our
project
being
attentive
to
enable
that
type
of
access
is
our
project.
A
A
C
A
C
B
D
That's
right,
you're
in
Minneapolis
I
forgot
that
yeah
you're
right
there,
oh
yeah
I'm
very
in
right
now,
emotionally
and
not
too
much
physically
I'm
a
adorable
suburb,
it's,
but
it's
like
half
a
mile
away
from
buildings
that
were
on
fire
on
Friday
yeah,
so
so
anyway.
Yeah
that
aside,
like
I'm,
happy
to
talk
more
about
that,
but
I'd
say
like
there
is
something
about
safety
of
participation
about
like
something
that
makes
something
visibly
either
more
equitable
or
not.
G
D
To
be
able
to
clearly
identify
it,
as
a
group
we'll
end
up
finding
them,
yeah
I
was
offering
some
reframing
of
questions
by
area.
If
it's
off
well,
I
can
copy
a
paisa
elsewhere
and
back
out
into
edit
success.
No.
F
The
difference
here
is
that
diversity
and
inclusion
looks
for
access
justice,
equality,
equity
of
people
participating
inside
our
community.
Okay,
ni
is
about
bringing
in
these
people
and
helping
them
to
participate
in
the
project.
Social
value
is
about
creating
that
impact
outside
of
the
people
who
are
participating.
The
project.
B
F
A
D
C
F
A
F
A
B
Is
the
goal
of
a
community
to
be
consumed
by
other
communities
as
a
means
of
sustaining
itself,
or
is
the
goal
of
a
community
simply
to
sustain
itself
pretty
both
great
because
I
in
my
mind,
when
we're
talking
about
it
on
the
spreadsheet
I
was
thinking
the
goal
the
community
was
self-sustaining,
but
I
think
this
goal
speaks
to
how
communities
self-sustained
right
if
your
project
stands
alone
and
doesn't
integrate
at
all
with
other
projects
or
doesn't
help,
people
working
on
other
projects
may
actually
might
be
an
OK
standalone
piece
of
software.
B
D
So,
project
velocity
and
SCMS,
you
know
caveats
assignment
in
project
popularity
that
we're
gonna
put
in
community
value.
Those
all
really
stand
that
asked
the
question
of
like
is:
is
this
community
value
too
valuable
to
me
as
a
user
or
contributor
less?
So
it's
it's
not
about
the
interconnection
of
one
community
with
the
other.
It's
really
about
the
value
derived
or
perceived
by
the
people
in
the
community.
Yes,.
B
F
D
D
F
A
F
B
A
B
A
B
Gets
people
to
invest
in
their
community
and
then
we
have
focus
area.
Community
value
and
reputation
was
there
a
second
ago,
but
now
it's
gone
so
I
mean
maybe
it
was
edited
out
of
existence
it
okay,
you
know,
I
was
just
I
was
just
sort
of
wondering
if
those
questions
were
remaining
or
not
another
gone
so
I,
don't
any
questions.
D
D
A
D
D
Does
just
float
that
way,
so
I
get
it
I
I
do
I,
do
respect
it,
though,
because
a
lot
of
stuff,
like
employee
retention,
like
many
organizations,
are
adopting
open-source
strategies
in
order
to
allow
their
employees
to
use,
use
and
write
open-source
part
of
their
work,
because
it's
such
a
has
such
an
impact
on
employee
retention.
According
to
exit
interviews,
I
had.
A
I
B
J
F
I
would
strike
out
the
investment
two
functions
in
an
organization
because
the
way
I
see
chaos,
metrics
is
they're.
Looking
at
community
health
of
open
source
project
and
looking
at
the
health
of
my
organizational
function,
that's
in
the
hospital
to
me
is
outside
of
what
the
chaos
metrics
should
be
and
so
I
think
sure
the
OspA
can
have
value
by
building
out
engagements
with
a
community,
but
that's
different
I.
B
D
F
D
So
I
feel
that
I
think
I
wrote
that
originally,
which
is
not
straightforward
but
I,
think
the
implication
is
that
like
value
is
derived
differently
based
on
organizational
unit,
so
the
exact
same
team,
exact
same
goal
for
a
marketing
organization
to
you
know,
have
an
impact
through
open
source
and
a
engineering
organization
of
impact
through
the
open
source.
They're,
not
gonna,
measure
the
same
thing
as
success
and
in
misappropriating.
Their
definition
of
value
is
a
recipe
for
defunding.
F
Okay,
I'd,
like
that
context,
part
and
I
really,
like
that
context,
part
and
so
I
rewrote
a
little
bit.
So
it
makes
sense
in
my
head.
Let's
see
if
it
makes
sense
to
use
understanding
the
value
of
investing
in
a
community
from
the
perspective
of
an
organizational
function
that
is
considering
contributing
or
consuming
a
particular
open-source
project.
D
I,
like
that
and
as
much
as
I
love
the
brevity
of
your
definition,
Chung
I
think
link
the
the
language
around
like
capital
or
labor,
like
it's
very
quick,
it's
what
its
specific
yeah,
yeah,
well,
yeah,
exactly
I
think
it's
it's
it's
definitely
the
specificity
is
nice,
but
I
think
it's
it's
hard
to
understand
what
those
words
mean
if,
without
a
lot
of
money
in
people's
time.
A
D
A
So
I
will
I'm,
just
I,
know
we're
over,
but
I'll
take
these
and
I'll
issue
a
PR
kind
of
recategorize
in
the
goals
and
these
the
spreadsheet
here
yeah
kind
of
how
things
are
reorganized.
Okay,
I'll
do
that.
Thank
you
we're
over
time.
Thank
you.
Everybody
thanks
you're
out
of
time.
Oh
yeah
thanks
everybody,
bye-bye.