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From YouTube: CHAOSS Web Content Meeting September 1, 2022
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A
Seeing
as
this
meeting
tends
to
go
a
little
bit
long
when
the
the
earlier
we
get
started
the
better
so
here
let
me
share
the
meeting
minutes
again.
Please
sign
in.
B
Okay,
so
let's
just.
A
C
So
I
can
say,
google
summer
of
code
has
one
next
week
is
the
last
week
for
that,
and
then
final
evaluations
are
due
right
after
that,
so
work
should
be
in
theory,
wrapping
up
based
on
the
scope
that
was
given
not
that
you
know
the
students
who
are
working
on
their
stuff
can't
continue,
but
yeah
that
project
will
officially
end
the
end
of
next
week.
I
believe
yes
and.
C
A
You
know
I
think,
for
for
some
reason
I
was
thinking
the
google
summer
of
code
dates
kind
of
we're
closer
aligned
with
the
google
summer
doc
stuff.
C
C
B
E
So
yeah,
so
basically
what
we
have
is.
We
have
now
defined
three
clear
paths
for
the
users
that
we
want
to
have
on
the
main
slider,
so
these
parts
are
basically
for
the
kiosk
community
and
one
is
for
getting
started
and
others
for
metrics
and
matrix
models.
E
So
basically
we
have
these
three
root
pages
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
these
the
design
of
these
pages
is
aligned
with
the
you
know,
sort
of
the
redesign
of
the
website
that
we
are
doing
the
colors,
the
fonts
and
another
thing
I
was
concerned
about
was:
if
do
you
need
to
change
the
layout
of
these
pages?
Because
currently
what
we
have
is
initially
we
are
presenting
the
description
of
the
root
page.
E
Then
we
have
the
search
bar
and
then
we
have
the
sub
categories
in
that
and
then
we
provide
some
information
modules
related
to
the
knowledge
base.
So
maybe
the
design
team
could
have
a
look
and
give
some.
D
Comments
have
a
question:
are
the
the
like
organization
platform
project?
Software?
Are
those
like
just
quick
links
to
the
context
tags.
A
E
D
E
Yeah
we
had
ecosystem,
but
we
didn't
have
any
metrics
classified
in
the
ecosystem
as
far
as
I
remember,
okay,
so
just
to
maintain
the
symmetry
I
sort
of
added
the
9.
D
D
A
So
there
are,
as
yash
said,
there
are
three
distinct
paths,
so
metrics
models
community,
that's
the
other
one
right.
B
E
D
A
A
C
So
and
because
we
point
people
to
that,
a
lot
so
in
lieu
of
that,
where
should
we
point
people
just
to
the
generic
like
to
this
page
right
here
of
all
of
the
yes?
Yes,
so
this
this.
A
Page
would
so
the
the
chaos
community
page
describes
the
the
structure
of
chaos,
so
it
includes
working
group
information
and
then
it'll
also
include
the
the
calendar
right.
So
this
is
basically
the
for
if,
if
you're
an
existing
member
of
the
community
you'd
point
them
to
this
one,
if
they
are
a
new
member,
you
point
them
to
the
other
knowledge
base.
Page
generally,
generally
speaking,
however,
there's
probably
useful
information
in
both
places:
okay,
but
the
but.
C
A
It's
limited
to
this,
the
knowledge
bases
are
the
individual
knowledge.
Based
searches
are
limited
to
this.
This
knowledge
base.
However,
we
also
have
the
ability
to
put
all
of
the
knowledge
bases
together
and
do
a
search
there,
and
that
is
a
page
that
we
are
actually
going
to
create
it'll,
be
the
full
knowledge
base
page.
That
includes
everything.
A
A
And
then,
in
regards
to
the
participate
page,
going
away,
the
consistent
message
that
I've
been
receiving
on
that
participate
page
is
that
people
didn't
like
it?
It
didn't
have
the
information
that
they
needed
and
it
was
confusing
so.
A
So
there
there
hasn't
been,
I'm
not
opposed
to
keeping
it,
but
I
have
not.
I
haven't
heard
anyone
say
we
should
keep
it.
A
A
And
then
the
other
one
was
getting
started
so
so
the
so.
The
three
paths
are
community
getting
started
and
metrics
models
and
yes
I'll
throw
it
back
to
you.
E
Yeah,
so
basically
we
have
this
page
for
the
newcomers
and
yeah.
So
basically
we
want
to
tell
newcomers
on
what
all
can
they
do
when
they
enter
the
kiosk
community,
so
they
can
contribute.
They
can
be
a
user
of
the
metrics
and
yeah,
basically
that
maybe
some
stepping
stones
to
understand
what
chaos
is
all
about.
D
So
elizabeth
and
ruth
elizabeth
ruth
and
I
we're
working
on
a
way
for
people,
you
can
probably
see
where
I'm
going
with
this
we're
working
on
a
spreadsheet
right
now
as
ways
for
people
to
get
involved
in
the
project
and
which
is
basically
like.
D
A
C
Kevin
and
josh
is
this
page
pulling
from
the
handbook,
then
I'm
just
like
okay
perfect,
because
I
know
that
ruth
and
shoya
were
working
on
that,
like
that
block
right
there,
a
quick
start
and
the
community
guide,
like
all
of
that
stuff,
is
also
in
the
handbook.
So
that's
perfect.
Yeah.
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
the
community
guidelines,
it
may
actually
fit
better
with
the
community
page
rather
than
the
than
the
getting
started.
A
But
but
right
now
it's
yeah
we're
just
pulling
it
that's
kind
of
the
the
way
the
way
stuff
gets
organized
into
that
community
handbook
is
sometimes
it's
a
flip
of
a
coin.
Does
it
belong
in
this
folder
or
this
folder
from
on
the
website?
For
for
our
pathway,
our
pathways?
A
When
we
get
to
the
getting
started
page?
It's
it's
not
about
providing
kind
of
like
information
like
this
community
guidelines.
It's
actually
it's
about
providing
like
actionable
pathways
that
they
can
take.
Not
any
that
background
information,
for
example
like
if
they
need
a
template
to
do
work.
A
Those
things
should
be
accessible
as
well
or
if
they
need
to
know
what
the
the
community
guidelines
are,
they
should
be
accessible
as
well
through
the
search,
but
it's
not
something
we're
we're
putting
out
forward
right.
So
we
want
clear
pathways
to
get
them
participating
as
fast
as
possible
or
to
get
them
to
the
place
where
they
want
to
go
so.
E
A
And
each
each
of
these
knowledge
base
pages
will
have
two
of
these
modules
that
can
allow
us
to
kind
of
direct
people
to
to
these
or
to
to
highlight
these
really
important
documents
right.
So
right
now
for
chaos,
community
we're
thinking
it's
going
to
be
working
groups
right.
A
So
this
is
the
section
where
we'll
have
all
the
kind
of
the
working
group
information
and
the
calendar
and
then,
when
we're
searching
through
the
knowledge
base,
you
know
that's
that's
the
info
about
how
the
project
is
structured
and
governed
right
and
then
the
for
the
models.
A
There
it
is
for
the
models
we
have.
Obviously,
the
metrics
and
models
are
in
the
topic
area,
sorted
by
context
area
which,
on
the
website
is
called
topic
areas
we
can
search,
and
when
we
click
on
these,
we
can
get
lists
of
all
of
the
metrics
that
belong
there
and
then
right
now.
What
we
were
kind
of
thinking
is
that
we
have
a
module,
that's
kind
of
devoted
to
chaos,
software
and
chaos,
initiatives,
because
these
are
two
things
that
basically
take
metrics
and
models
and
kind
of
instantiate
them
in
real
life
right.
A
So
so
the
idea
here
is
that
you
know
we
can.
We
can
search
metrics
and
models
and
we
can
look
at
them
and
if
we
go
further
down,
we
can
actually
we
could
see
some
of
these
metrics
and
models
in
action
and
we
can
see
them
through
chaos,
initiatives
we
can
see
them
through
software
now
mind
you,
the
the
content-
that's
in
here,
probably
links
out
to
other
pages,
but
this
is
just
kind
of
a
just.
A
D
A
D
A
A
And
more
than
like
that'll,
more
than
likely
that'll
match
the
when
we,
when
we
come
from
the
main
page,
the
title
here
will
match
the
the
text
from
the
sliders
as
they
come
through,
so
which-
and
we
do
have
those
slider
images
now
so
in
regards
to
the
website
design,
bellam-
and
I
were
looking
at
that
the
other
day
and
we
spent
a
couple
hours
kind
of
poking
around
the
website.
A
So
the
I
I
think
we
can
have
the
the
front
page
of
the
website,
maybe
done
within
within
a
week,
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
other
parts
of
the
website.
I
think
she's
she's,
looking
at
the
about
pages
currently
so.
E
I
know
basically,
this
is
what
we
have
been
doing
over
the
summer
and
yeah.
I
just
wanted
some
feedback
from
the
design
team
if
they
have
some
time
if
they
could
just
go
through
the
these
pages
and
if
they
have
any
recommendations.
A
Yeah,
I
would
yeah
I
would.
I
would
echo
that
statement
and
maybe
ask
ask
malama
if
she
could
take
a
look
at
these
these
three
pages,
specifically
with
the
idea
that
the
I
think
we
we
do
definitely
want
a
page
description,
section,
the
search
bar
the
topic
area
section
and
then
two
modules
on
each
page.
A
The
order
of
this
stuff
could
be
up
for
discussion
and
then
obviously
the
the
formatting
and
design
of
the
page
can
be
can
be
adjusted
as
well.
So
if
I
could,
if
I
could
add
that
to
your
your
list
of
to-do's,
that
would
be.
A
And
then,
in
regards
to
google's
summer
of
code
ending
once
we
have
kind
of
the
overall
structure
and
design
of
the
the
knowledge
base
in
place,
we're
pretty
close
to
being
done.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
moving
the
documents
in
and
moving
the
folders
in,
and
I
I
don't
think
on
on
for
the
google
summer
code
project.
I
don't
think,
there's
an
expectation
that
that
that
can
be
done
completely
by
yash.
A
That
I
don't
think
that
was
ever
an
expectation
just
because
we're
aligning
with
the
the
community
handbook.
It's
just
we'll
be
we'll
be
moving
stuff
in,
but
the
structure
will
be
created
and
we
can
continue
moving
documents
in
going
forward
as
the
as
new
documents
are
created
or
as
new
topic
areas
are
created.
E
Okay,
so
I
was
just
saying
yeah
I
mean
it's
not
like.
I
would
disappear
once
that
12
september
date
has
passed.
You
can
always
ping
me
on
slack
if
you
need
some
help
in
regards
to
the
knowledge
base
and
I'll
be
available
so
yeah,
if
you
basically
need
some
more
help
with
the
knowledge
base,
because
I
understand
that
the
project
will
continue
to
develop.
The
knowledge
base
will
continue
to
have
more
documents,
so
I
could
work
on
officially
outside
of
the
google
summer
report
timeline.
That's
not
a
very
big
issue,
I
would
say
so.
C
And
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
I
should
probably
let
ruth
jump
in
here
or
show
you.
I
don't
think
she's
on
the
call,
but
it
looks
like
shoya
had
just
merged
in
the
final
handbook
structure,
all
the
folders
and
everything
she
made
that
she
merged
in
that
pr
earlier.
So
that
might
be
ready
to
go.
B
B
It's
ready
to
go
like
the
structure
we
have
now.
B
I
think
I
think
what
we
are
just
doing
after
now
is
updating
the
contents
and
like
the
writing
and
adding
some
other
pages.
So
that's
what
you're
doing
currently
but
structure
the
folder
structure
is
ready
to
go.
E
A
And
then
on
on
our
end,
we
do
need
to
finish.
We
need
to
add
keywords
to
the
the
metrics
and
models
which
I
think
I
think
elizabeth
had
said
that
you
were
going
to
help
with.
That.
Is
that,
yes,
no
am
I
making.
B
D
It's
happening,
and
I
think
that
just
to
comment
on
that,
I
think
one
of
the
nice
things
is.
It's
now
been
like
fully
introduced
and
discussed
in
each
one
of
the
working
groups
and
including
the
metrics
model
working
group.
So
I
think
that
conversation
is
now
really
successfully
worked
its
way
through
the
project.
A
Okay,
is
that
so,
is
that
something
that
we
want
to
assign
individually,
or
do
we
just
want
to
have
a
meeting
and
just
blaze
through
them
on
the
on
the
spreadsheet?
I
can
see
both
working
out
pretty
well.
A
I
bet
you
we
could
keyboard
them
pretty
fast,
oh
my
god
yeah.
So
I
will
let
you
do
you
want
to
you
or
elizabeth.
Would
you
like
to
set
up
the
time
to
do
that
sure
I
can
do
that.
Okay,
all
right,
so
thank
you,
yash.
I
think
the
the
knowledge
basis
is
looking
pretty
good.
I
think
I'm
excited
to
see
how
functional
it
is
once
the
once
we
have
it
up
and
running.
Additionally,
we
will
be
able
to
as
the
we
will
be
able
to
track
these
pages.
A
E
Yeah
I
mean
so
one
of
the
very
interesting
features
of
lenovo
is
that
I
don't
know
if
you
are
able
to
access
this
link,
but
it
provides
a
lot
of
analytics.
A
A
Interesting
to
see
what
what
metric
is
most
landed
on
or
what
metric
model
is
most
landed
on,
or
even
you
know
what
some
of
the
keyword
searches
are
coming
in
to
the
to
the
knowledge
base,
because
that
can
that
can
help
us
with
future
design
and
also
metrics
and
model
definition.
I
believe
so
so
that
yeah
I'm
excited
about
that
so
and
with
that,
we
should
probably
turn
it
over
to
the
next
people.
A
Are
we
switching
to
is
this
handbook,
or
are
we
going
to
design
updates.
B
The
design,
I
think
I
put
that
in
there
I
just
want
to
give
some
updates
okay.
Now
I
have
already
mentioned
that
part
of
I'm
adding
contents
in
the
handbook,
so
we
can
move
to
design
updates
yeah.
So
this,
like
update
from
maxwell
maxwell
designed
a
new
branded
slide
deck.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
forget,
to
link.
I
can't
share
my
screen
right
now,
yeah
so
yeah.
So
maxwell
did
like
a
new
slide
deck
which
we
could
you
know
for
chaos
con.
I
don't
know
if
it's
still
it's
too
late
to
kind
of
like
send
the
speakers
if
we
want
to
send
to
them
to
kind
of
like
create
your
slides
with.
I
don't
know
if
it's
lit
right
now,
but
this
is
the
branded
template
for
slides
and
you
can
use
it
in
the
future.
B
B
B
Yeah,
so
do
you
know
if
anyone
has
any
feedback
in
this
slide.
D
So
I
really
like
it.
I
I
like
one
of
the
things
I've
been
seeing
is
the
like
this.
The
picture
you're
looking
at
right
now
kevin
those
kind
of
circles
and
lines
how
they've
that
kind
of
like
retains
the
old
imagery.
B
Yeah
and
it
kind
of
like
matches
with
everything,
so
it's
really
cool.
D
So
what
are
so
ruth
the
idea
is
to
put
everything
into
a
branding
drive
on
google.
Would
we
share
this
on
the
website?
Probably
kevin.
Is
there
a
place
to
share
that
link
so.
A
I
would
actually
go.
I
would
go
a
step
further
than
branding.
I
would.
I
think
we
need
a
central
repository
for
all
of
our
images
and
assets,
so
the
logos
community
pictures
things
like
this
now
it
can
be,
it
could
be
in
in
github.
If
we
want
I'm,
not
I'm
not
opposed
to
either
github
or
google
drive,
I
will
say
it
can
be
like
there
are.
There
are
pros
and
cons
to
both.
A
But
yeah
if.
B
D
So
my
initial
inclination
is
to
have
it
in
a
google
drive,
but
I
understand
like
there
are,
I
totally
agree
kevin.
There
are
pluses
and
minuses
to
doing
that.
A
minus
for
me
is
we
don't
really
use
google
drive
for
that.
We
use
google
drive
oftentimes
for
like
kind
of
working
out
metrics
models
and
working
out
metrics.
You.
D
Dynamic
place,
and
so
we
really
haven't
used.
Google
drive
as
a
place
to
store
things.
That's
a
negative.
A
positive
for
google
drive
is
it.
It
seems
like
a
more
appropriate
and
easy
more
easily
accessible
place
for
this
kind
of
stuff,
like
just
for
people
to
get
to
quickly.
That's
the
advantage
of
google
drive
for
me,
and
so
I'm
thinking
for
anyway.
Like
I
said
I
don't.
Those
are
kind
of
the
pros
and
cons
for
me
like
completely
like
poorly
waited
in
the
last
one
minute.
A
A
The
plan
is
to
eventually
move
it
into
github.
Google
drive
is
a
good
place
to
start
to
organize
the
organize
everything
and
maybe
categorize
it
so
yeah.
I
would
agree
with
that.
I've
seen
I've
seen
a
lot
of
our
assets
and
many
of
them
don't
have
explicit
names
so
without
without
like
opening
them
up
and
and
looking
at
the
properties.
It
can
be
like
just
a
like
a
like
a
chaos
logo,
for
example.
A
C
A
Have
to
open
it
up,
I
have
to
look
at
the
properties.
A
lot
of
that
stuff
can
be
added
to
the
the
naming
convention
for
the
logo.
A
So
maybe
if
we
were
to
collect
everything
that
we
have
and
put
it
into,
google
drive
and
start
sorting
it
and
then,
if
we
wanted
to
move
it
into
github
after
and
later
that
might
be,
the
the
first
step
might
be
moving
it
into
drive
and
maybe
maybe
just
keep
it
there,
but
move
it
into
drive
and
then
organize
it
and
and
to
the
point
I
made
at
the
beginning.
It's
I
think
all
of
our
assets
should
go
there,
that
aren't
traditional
markdown
documents
right.
A
Templates
are
fine
in
chaos
community
but
yeah,
but
yeah
presentation,
slides
pictures
of
the
community
logos
artwork
that
we've
designed
things
like
that
pdfs,
if
the
like
branding
so
branding
documents
are
usually
created
on
pdfs
so
because
they
because
you
can
drop
a
pdf
into
adobe,
illustrator
and
and
use
like
the
actual,
the
actual
images
right.
A
So
so
all
of
the
like
branding
branding
sheets
that
I
see
are
often
pdfs
so
and
stuff
like
that
could
exist
within
this
drive
as
well.
D
Agreed,
I'm
trying
to
think
didn't
nicole,
do
like
a
slide
deck
along
those
lines.
C
D
We
could,
in
the
community
repo
I
mean
we
could
have
an
assets
folder
with
just
a
readme
that
does
point
to
the
doc
or
to
the
folder.
I
should
say
you
know,
then
we
could
put
it
on
the
website
too.
I
mean
we
do
kind
of
have
an
assets
like
a
sort
of
an
assets
page.
You
know
what
I
mean.
It's
the
logos.
D
D
A
B
Okay,
so
yeah
this
maxwell
kind
of,
like
also
designed
like
from
class.
We
could
this
okay.
This
is
the
banner
I
think
so
yeah
like
we
could
print
a
banner
for
chaos
con
europe
and
the
other
one
is
the
flyer
we
could
share
on
social
twitter
and,
like
it's
still
in
the
same
drive
yeah
this.
I
think
the
first
one.
B
Oh
yeah,
these
are
the
two,
but
the
other
one
needs
to
be
printed.
Maybe
like
conference
room
or
something
like
that.
A
Yep,
I
think
that
looks
good
too
and
then.
D
B
So
right
now
maxwell
has
been
sending
it
to
me
from
his
own
drive.
So
okay,
going
to
like
round
up
the
work
next
week,
so
he's
putting
everything
together,
I'm
going
to
create
drive
links
now.
E
D
B
B
A
Can
we
create
a
high-level
folder
to
hold
all
of
kind
of
the
content
that
we
have
been
discussing
and
maybe
share
and
share
that
link
to
the
folder
on
the
maybe
in
the
web
content
slack
channel.
C
A
A
Do
we
want
to
so
that
I
think
that
that
folder
would
encompass,
maybe
half
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
doing,
but
do
we
need
do
we
need
a
folder
that
would
include
kind
of
what
I
mentioned
earlier
was
all
of
our
community
images
as
well,
and
all
of
our
logo,
art
and
the
the
design
things
that
aren't
necessarily
media
and
the
medium
presentation
is
what
what
this
one
was
called
right.
Yeah.
C
A
Actually,
in
retrospect,
media
docs
and
files
might
be
might
actually
be
the
a
good
high
level.
B
A
E
D
A
C
A
A
I
don't
have
a
I
wanted
to
share
those
here
as
well.
I
did
share
them
in
the
community
meeting.
C
So,
basically,
where
so
they're
creating
some
like
mock-ups
and
things
like
that
for
the
badging
website,
but
we're
not
sure
where
to
put
those
if
we
should
put
them
in
a
website
folder
in
the
badging
org
or
add
them
to
the
website.
Folder
in
the
chaos
org,
like
all
of
those
that
information
and
such.
C
That
yeah
badging
is
going
to
have
their
own
website
and
we
just
weren't
sure
if
it
should
be
part
of
the
chaos
org
or
the
badging
org.
C
Well,
I
think,
because,
like
it's
kind
of
expanding
into
project,
badging
and
event,
badging
and
there's
just
a
lot
to
put
there
and
so
like
we
want
to
list
like
who
all
has
had
a
badge
and
like
here's,
the
application,
so
it's
really
kind
of
growing
and
it
I
don't
know
that
it
wanted.
They
wanted
to
kind
of
muddle.
C
The
chaos
website
with
it
ruth
can
jump
in
if
there
are
other
reasons
that
I'm
not
sure
of
but
yeah,
and
I
I
I
was
thinking
that
I
was
under
the
under
the
impression
that
it
would
be
badging.chaos.community.
A
It
gonna
be,
is
it
gonna
be
hosted
through
green
geeks.
B
So
we've
not
really
thought
about
hosting
the
the
main
tool
like
this,
but
does
that
mean
ideas
to
kind
of
like
show
more
of
the
information
on
badging
and
kind
of
like
show
more
events
that
will
badge,
because
currently
it's
just
on
the
read
me
like
the
list
of
conferences
are
just
there.
B
You
know
it
keeps
going
on
and
on
and
some
really
sustainable,
and
we
also
want
to
like
show
a
little
more
of
that
work
and
it's
another
reason
is
I'm
trying
to
also
get
folks
in
the
chaos,
africa
but
speed
on
a
project
so
folks
at
scales,
africa
have
been
working
on
it
with
designers
and
when
they
are
done
with
the
design
developers
will
also
work
on
it.
So
the
question
we've
been
having
is
where
would
the
website
the
the
code
for
the
website?
A
So
I
mean
I
mean,
I
suppose
it
depends
how
your
what
platform
you're
going
to
use
to
create
the
website.
So
I
mean,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
actually
building
a
website-
and
you
need
the
code
for
it-
then
you're
probably
gonna
want
to
create
a
new
repo
for
it,
and
I
would
probably
you'd
want
to
keep
that
separate
from
the
our
existing
chaos
website.
A
So,
if
you're
going
to
build
that
content
in
wordpress
and
use
a
similar
and
use
a
similar
method
to
the
way
we
manage
our
website,
then
it
could,
it
could
exist,
it
could
coexist
in
the
the
website.
Repo.
A
So
yeah,
if
I'm
sorry,
go
ahead.
A
You're
gonna
use
the
you're
gonna,
create
a
github
website
right,
so
you're
gonna
use,
jekyll
and.
B
Yeah
more
like
using
react
like
the
web
framework,
because,
like
javascript
too,
because
then
we
have
like
a
lot
of
javascript
developers
in
chaos,
so
the
technology
they're
familiar
with.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
using
and
yeah.
A
Well,
we'll
just
link
to
it
so
we'll
have
badging
is
one
of
the
initiatives
so
there'll
be
a
we'll
have
a
page
on
the
website
for
badging
and
it'll.
Just
link
to
the
website.
B
No
something
about
how
maybe
we'll
discuss
this
later
when
we
think
of
like
the
technology,
but
something
about
how
the
current
website
on
the
apply
for
about
page
connects
with
the
github
or
the
the
github,
like
the
page
for
budget
like
apply
for
a
badge
connects
with
the
github
the
budget
event
button.
I
think
yeah.
So
I
was
going
to
ask
that,
but
I
think
I'll
just
hold
on
till.
We
have
like
a
plan
to
what
technology
we're
going
to
be
using
for
the
website.
B
A
Well,
thank
you,
everyone.
We
should
probably
go
ahead
and
in
this
meeting
then,
because
we're
running
a
little
long
again
thank.