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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call Feb 21 2023
Description
Minutes from this meeting can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMDWc6xMe0fNE7shxTK5_HE_ykRBG5w55_Zx5hvzsEY/edit?pli=1#heading=h.oznzkn3t2ext
A
A
It's
February,
21st
and
you're
here
at
the
chaos
weekly
Community
call
just
a
reminder.
This
is
part
of
chaos,
so
you
are
under
the
chaos
code
of
conduct.
So
thank
you
for
respecting
that
and
also
we
don't
care.
If
you
have
your
cameras
on
or
off,
that's
totally
fine
you're
welcome
to
participate
in
the
chat
to
the
side
if
you
like,
instead
of
speaking
through
the
microphone
totally
fine,
we're
we're
pretty
easy
here,
we're
pretty
flexible
and
just
for
anybody
who's
new.
A
This
meeting
is
for
the
chaos
Community
to
come
together
and
chat
about
things
that
are
relevant
to
the
community.
We
do
announcements,
we
hang
out
for
a
minute
and
then
say
hello
to
each
other,
so
it's
pretty
chill,
but
we
do
have
an
agenda
which
I
will
pull
up
here.
A
And
I
see
pictures
of
kitties,
oh
my!
So
if
you
want
to
tell
us
what
wakes
you
up
in
the
morning,
if
that
be
an
alarm
clock,
babies
or
pets,
or
maybe
just
the
sunshine
trains,
motorcycles
roosters.
Whatever
else,
we
would
love
to
hear
that
I
would
love
to
hear
that.
Anyway,
in
my
old
house
there
was
a
dude
who
had
a
Harley
and
he
left
at
7
A.M
every
morning
from
work,
and
it
was
extreme
Extremely,
Loud
and
the
whole
neighborhood
knew
when
he
was
leaving
for
work.
That's.
A
A
A
A
A
A
All
right,
let's
hop
to
it
so
I,
just
wanted
to
acknowledge.
Kingsley
I,
don't
see
Kingsley
on
the
call
today,
but
Kingsley
wrote
an
amazing
blog
post
for
us.
If
you
haven't
read
it,
you
can
do
so
right
here.
It's
how
designers
can
contribute
to
open
source
projects
on
GitHub.
It's
a
great
article,
highly
recommend
you
read
it
if
you
haven't
already
and
I
wanted
to
also
say
if
anybody
does
want
to
write
from
the
blog.
A
We
have
a
process
now
to
do
that,
and
it's
super
easy
all
you
need
to
do
is
just
tell
us
that
you
tell
the
working
group.
The
communications
working
group
that
we
are
are
that
you
are
working
on
an
article.
A
We
have
a
list
of
topics
if
you
don't
know
what
to
write
about,
but
you
want
to
write
about
something
and
then
we'll
review
it
and
we
will
post
it
for
you
on
your
behalf,
once
it's
all
edited
and
ready
to
go,
and
all
you
need
to
do
is
just
put
it
in
a
Google
doc.
So
you
don't
have
to
know
GitHub,
you
don't
have
to
know
anything.
It
does
help.
A
If
you
know
the
chaos
community
somewhat
so
for
newcomers,
we
do
kind
of
recommend
that
you,
you
know,
attend
this
meeting
kind
of
get
to
know
chaos
a
little
bit
before
you
jump
right
in,
but
we
would
love
to
to
see
your
articles.
So
we
do
have
a
list
of
topics
like
I
said.
If
you're
curious,
we
can
put
you
to
that.
B
A
Yeah
we
just
want
to
make
it
easy
as
possible
and
and
the
communications
working
group
yesterday
we
did
Benya
had
a
really
a
few
great
ideas.
A
A
A
Was
it
yeah
a
Blog
template
is
what
she
recommended
to
so
that
someone
could
just
read
that
template
yep,
so
so
yeah,
so
we're
iterating
on
that
process,
we'll
keep
getting
better
at
it,
but
hopefully.
B
A
So
all
right
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
about
a
few
working
group
meeting
changes.
The
web
content
meetings
are
no
more
yeah.
We
took,
we
actually
took
a
meeting
off
the
chaos
calendar.
Can
you
all
stand
it?
Oh,
my
gosh.
We
are
switching
to
async
only
because
most
of
the
website
changes
have
been
done.
The
new
knowledge
base
is
up.
The
new
redesign
is
all
done
so
you
know
we
don't
really
need
to
meet
every
week
or
every
two
weeks,
so
we're
just
switching
to
async.
A
Is
something
feel
free
to
join
us
in
the
the
website
and
slack
Channel
and
it's
WG
Dash
website,
so
you
can
find
us
there
there's
also
a
thread
on
discourse.
If
you
have
feedback
about
the
site,
there's
a
thread
called
site
feedback,
that's
creative
right!
It's
for
website
feedback
and
also
discourse
feedback.
A
A
The
second
change
is
that
the
metrics
model
working
group
is
switching
about
a
12
hour,
almost
a
12
hour
difference
than
what
we
were
doing.
So
that's
a
big
change
just
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
folks
to
attend
that
meeting.
A
It
does
make
it
a
little
trickier
for
our
Pacific
Coast
folks
to
join
it's
pretty
early
in
the
morning,
but
it
makes
it
easier
for
our
asia-pacific
group
to
join
so
and
Europe
and
India
like
all
of
those
people
in
between
so
we're
hoping
that
that
works,
we're
just
trying
it
for
now
we'll
see
we
may
have
to
change
it
again.
We
don't
know,
but
it's
because
everything's
an
experiment
here
you
know
so
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that.
B
Mean
really
what
it
came
down
to
is
we
had
both
groups,
those
that
were
in
like
China
China
and
those
were
the
US
I
think
it
was
a
sub-optimal
time
for
both
of
us,
and
you
just
realized
that
we
could
flip
it
12
hours
and
it
would
become
more
optimal
for
all
of
us.
So
it
was
a
pretty
easy
change
for
the
folks
that
attend
that
meeting.
Nice.
D
B
D
That's
actually
that's
for
me.
That's
way
better
than
six
o'clock
at
night.
B
Maybe
the
one
other
I
think
you
have
mentioned
it
right
is
that
the
Asia
Pacific
call
is
really
just
now
very
friendly
for
folks
in
Asia
Pacific
in
the
Asia
Pacific
region.
So
it's
changed
so
most
of
us
in
the
US
really
just
can't
join
at
all,
which
is
fine.
I
have
no
problem
with
that,
but
that's
also
changed.
I
think
you've
mentioned
that
in
the
past.
A
We
have,
but
we
can
mention
it
again,
yeah.
Those
meetings
happen
once
a
month
now
and
they're
aligned
with
the
to
do
group,
Asia,
Asia,
Pacific
and
I-
think
they
happen
at
like
1am
U.S
Central,
something
like
that
so
yeah,
but
they
are
open
to
whoever
you
don't
have
to
just
be
in
Asia
Pacific
area,
if
you're
in
Europe-
and
you
want
to
join,
that's
totally
fine.
A
Those
meetings
are
in
English,
I
did
double
check
that
and
the
minutes
are
in
English,
so
our
minutes
are
in
Google
doc
and
all
of
that
so
yeah.
If
that's
something
that's
interesting
to
you
and
it
fits
your
schedule
I'm
at
it.
It's.
A
Yeah
I'm
in
bed
at
like
9
p.m.
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
all
right.
So
any
other
questions
about
meeting
changes
again.
You
know
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody.
You
can
subscribe
to
the
chaos
calendar
because
these
meetings
do
change
sometimes,
so
the
your
best
bet
is
to
subscribe
to
the
calendar,
which.
C
A
All
right,
no
other
questions
and
we'll
go
on
so
the
next
one
is
actually
I
was
just
thinking
of
another
question.
I
had
so
I'll
add
that
to
the
agenda
in
a
minute
we
are
adding
the
static
URLs
to
each
metric.
Eventually,
so
for
those
who
have
missed
this
conversation,
we
are,
we
are
maintaining
so
WordPress
signs
a
page
ID
to
every
page,
and
that's
like
a
page
that
doesn't
change
what
happens
for
those
who
don't
know.
A
Sometimes
when
we
reference
our
metrics
by
name
in
the
URL
it
we
change
the
name
of
the
metric
and
then
things
get
broken
and
janky.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
add
a
line
at
the
bottom
of
every
metric.
That
says,
if
you're
referencing
this
metric,
please
use
this
URL
and
it
will
just
be
like
chaos.community
slash.
P
equals
one
two,
three
four
whatever
so
it
won't
be.
You
know
obvious
what
that
link
is,
but
that
link
will
never
change
regardless
of
what
the
name
of
the
metric
ends
up
being
yeah.
D
And
I
I
think
for
grimore,
lab
and
water
and
for
other
tooling
it's
extremely
helpful,
because
then
we
can
link
link
those
definitions
to
our
metrics
and
people
can
learn
more
about
what
the
metric
really
represents
and-
and
it's
I
think
that's
just
fantastic
and
I'm
so
happy
about
that.
I
do
have
one
question:
I
was
I,
went
with
the
risk
working
group.
Last
week
we
were
trying
to
I
wasn't
sure
where
to
look
for
the
static
URL.
D
B
D
A
A
It
to
you
or
send
it
to
you
Sean
after
this
meeting,
because.
D
A
D
A
A
We
are,
we
are
also
going
to
use
those
URLs
for
linking
from
the
metrics
models
when
we
include
the
different
metrics
that
are
included
in
the
model,
we
will
link
them
to
that
static
URL.
So.
A
C
So
quick
question
about
that.
I
have
noticed
that
this
the
website
has
gone
through
a
few
iterations,
but
the
GitHub
doesn't
always
get
updated
in
a
way
that
I
have
noticed
that
some
metrics
described
on
GitHub
are
no
longer
consistently
represented
on
the
website,
so
that
might
like,
if
so
there,
if
there
are
doubles,
maybe
I'm
just
thinking
about
risk
and
Sean.
Maybe
this
isn't
actually
item
for
us
to
clean
this
up
a
bit.
D
B
C
Might
call
out
where
we
haven't
been
doing
our
house
cleaning
for
some
groups,
I.
B
A
C
Yeah
that
was
really
out
of
date,
but
the
metrics,
so
the
metrics
are
fine.
So
that's
not
the
issue,
then
sorry,
it's
the
readme,
so
that
might
throw
people
off
because
I
think
like
the
meeting
time
is
wrong.
The
description
is
out
of
date,
so
I
think.
Maybe
we
should
just
take
that
and
sorry
we're
now
having
a
mini
risk
meeting
right
now.
D
D
And
and
I
guess
one
other
thing
that,
since
we're
on
risk
I'll
just
mention
that
sometimes
we
don't
record
the
meetings
and
the
reason
we
don't
record
them
sometimes
is
because
we're
discussing
things
related
to
the
software
supply
chain.
Security
and
people
are
sharing
information,
that's
not
public
yet,
and
so
we
do
take
active
notes
of
the
things
that
can
be
shared.
So
there
are
notes
from
in
the
in
the
most
in
the
most
recent
meeting.
A
Yeah
I
think
that's
fair
and
thank
you
for
just
explicitly
calling
that
out
and
clarifying,
but
yeah
I
think
that's
absolutely
Fair
yeah.
A
One
other
question
had
about
the
website
stuff,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
Kevin,
but
I
was
noticing
that
or
I
was
thinking
about
the
community
side
of
the
knowledge
base,
knowledgeable
knowledge
base
and
if
the
metric
side
of
the
knowledge
base
is
only
pulling
from
those
keywords.
Well,
wouldn't
it
make
sense
that
the
community
side
of
the
knowledge
base
also
will
only
pull
from
keywords
and
we
don't
have
any
keywords
or
any
anything
in
the
community
knowledge
base.
We
don't
have
any
of
those
set
up.
A
Something
yeah,
so
if
you
go
to
the
community
knowledge
base,
I'll
just
show
you
an
example
right
here,
because
I
found
this
this
morning
when
I
was
on
the
office
hours.
Think
about
it.
So
if
I
go
to
the
knowledge
base
and
I
search
for
for
more
lab.
A
D
Can't
remember
where,
but
I
think
it
was
the
web
meeting
where
we
discussed
this,
that
the
metric
search
and
the
regular
search
like
the
metric
search
is
excellent
for
finding
metrics
and
the
regular
search
is
not
so
it
maybe
there's
something
that
we
need
to
do
to
optimize,
how
it's
scanning
our
site
for
Search
terms
on
the
regular
search.
Well,.
A
A
This
is
what
we're
just
playing
with
right
now,
so
you
have
the
metrics
models,
search
because
that
just
looks
at
that.
You
have
the
knowledge
base
in
the
community,
which
is
our
handbook.
That's
just
that
and
then
this
would
be
the
rest
of
the
site,
but
Kevin
and
I
are
kind
of
messing
with
the
global
search
kind
of
thing.
So.
D
C
A
D
I
is
there
like
a
level
of
account
access
that
could
be
oriented
so
that
we
could
collectively
go
I?
Guess
one
question
is:
do
we
want
to
just
have
a
group
of
people
volunteer
to
log
in
and
add
keywords
or
do
we
want
to
discuss
what
keywords
for
which
things
in
some
way.
A
B
B
So
maybe
we
could
finish
out
the
metrics
so
that
we
have
the
static
URL
listed
and
the
link
to
the
GitHub
page
listed,
and
we
have
like
ensured
the
context.
Tags
and
keywords
are
there
for
metrics
and
metrics
models
like
done,
and
then
we
could
add
keywords
to
the,
for
example.
The
hymn
book
pages
would
that
be
okay,
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
think
Kevin's
actively
working
on
at
least
that's
what
he
indicated
to
me
that
he's
actively
working
on
the
metrics
so
yeah
totally
fine.
We
can
wait.
Okay,.
A
Fine,
it's
not
something
super
urgent,
it's
just
something
that
I
noticed
today.
I
was
like
oh
yeah,
that's
right!
We
don't
have
keywords,
I,
don't
think
the
search
searches.
The
whole
text
is
was
the
whole
point
of
that
and
that's
a
limitation
on
Minerva
plug-in
that
we're
using
for
WordPress.
It
does
not
search
through
the
whole
text
gotcha.
So
that's
that
was
the
whole
problem
we
had
on
the
metric
side
as
well
so
yeah.
A
Hence
the
need
for
keywords
for
anyone,
who's
wondering
what
that
is:
foreign,
okay,
sorry
to
go
off
on
those
little
tangents
there,
but
next
up
is
the
tour
guides.
Yay
I
meant
to
mention
this
in
our
slack
Channel,
but
I
didn't
so
I'm
mentioning
it
here.
A
So
Mary
blessing
is
going
to
be
leading
this
group
of
of
chaotics.
For
those
who
don't
know,
this
is
something
we've
is
relatively
new,
we're
just
starting
it
out.
The
tour
guides
are
going
to
be
a
group
of
volunteers
that
have
been
in
the
chaos
Community
for
a
while
who
are
going
to
help
newcomers
find
their
way
more
of
like
a
one-on-one
kind
of
situation.
So
Mary
blessing
is
going
to
take
this
initiative
and
help
build
it
out,
she's
going
to
be
the
one
to
coordinate
everybody,
those
who
have
already
expressed
interest
in
this.
A
We
do
have
a
slack
channel
that
we're
all
in
so
Mary
blessing
will
be
taking
that
and
and
documenting
everything
for
us
and
really
getting
that
going
so
yay,
congratulations
to
my
blessing
for
taking
this
on.
She
has
been
absolutely
outstanding
at
welcoming
newcomers.
She
has
been
super
helpful
to
those
who
are
new
to
the
community,
so
I'm
really
happy
that
she's
taking
this
on
and
has
agreed
to
kind
of
run
with
this,
so
yay.
B
A
Okay,
the
next
thing
on
the
I
should
say:
does
anybody
have
questions
about
this
tour
guides?
It's
new
I
know
we'll
be
talking
about
it
more
in
the
next
upcoming
weeks.
B
A
Yeah
and
Ruth
and
Mary
blessing
and
I
met
yesterday
to
kind
of
just
talk
about
everything
and
one
idea
that
Ruth
had
which
I
think
is
episode,
because
of
course
it
came
from
Ruth.
So
all
her
ideas
are
excellent,
but
she
was
saying
like
maybe
in
the
onboarding
call.
We
could
mention
the
tour
guides
that
way
so
that
at
least
we
know
folks
have
taken
that.
A
A
B
D
A
B
Don't
know
if
Dei
is
the
right
place,
but
we
do.
This
is
Disobedience
point,
so
we
do
need
to
go
through
the
readme's
that
are
with
the
respective
working
groups.
We
need
to
go
through
even
like
the
participate
page
right
now,
just
because,
like
for
example,
we
made
a
change
to
the
metrics
model.
Working
group
like
that
little
tile
needs
to
be
updated
as
well.
I
think
the
Asia
Pacific
call
needs
to
be
updated
as
well.
B
So
just
we
just
need
to
I,
don't
think
it's
a
huge
task,
but
just
go
through
and
identify
in
in
Dei.
The
only
reason
I
mentioned
DDI
is
because
there
was
an
issue
open
right
now
that,
like
one
of
the
things
in
the
readme
is
it
says,
Please
join
the
Dei
melee
list,
which
does
not
exist
anymore.
So
we
just
need
to
get
those
things
cleared
up.
A
Yeah
agreed:
do
we
I
don't
not
to
be
too
process
heavy,
but
is
there
something
I
think
that
so
there
is
also
an
open
issue
in
the
Community
repo
I
believe
about
this
kind
of
thing.
That
would
somebody
I,
think
shoya
and
Ruth
had
come
up
with
this
idea
about.
A
Let
me
find
the
community
here
about
having
a
bot
that
would
open
issues
in
the
respective
working
groups
to
help
them
remember
to
check
so
the
bot
would
open
tickets
or
issues
in
their
working
group
so
that
the
working
group
would
see
it
as
an
issue
and
then
be
like
oh
yeah.
We
should
go
check
our
readme.
We
should
go
check
our
web
of
the
things
that
we
are
representing
on
the
website
to
make
sure
that
it's
you
know
accurate.
Would
you
think
that
would
be
helpful
in
this
case,
I
mean
like
that.
A
Does
not
we're
looking
for
somebody
who
wants
to
write
it.
B
B
Because
then
I'm
guessing
we
could
just
kind
of
feed
the
bot
so
to
speak,
like
requests
that
would
go
out
to
open
issues.
So
if,
for
example,
we
knew
that
we
needed.
A
A
D
D
Think
that
was
the
idea
yeah.
No,
that
makes
that's
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
understand
that
that
make
I
think
that
makes
sense
it.
It
gives
us
a
kind
of
you
know.
We
can
use
issues
as
ways
to
assign
ourselves
to
do
things
and
close
them.
B
A
B
Okay,
open.
A
B
B
A
B
A
A
The
rest
of
your
day
and
Sophia
says
feed.
The
bot
is
gonna,
it's
gonna
stick
with
her
I
wonder
what
a
bot
would
eat.
I,
don't
know
yeah,
but
I
think
we're
good
so
see.
Y'all
later,
if
you're
on
cast
comp
planning
committee
stick
around
for
more
fun
and
then
Matt.
If
you
want
to
stop
recording
whatever
be
good.