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CHAOSS.Community.July.14.2020
A
Okay,
we
are
recording
this.
Is
the
July
14th
weekly
community
call
for
chaos,
hello,
everybody,
let's
see
here.
So
if
you
all
want
to
just
take
a
look
at
the
agenda,
it
looks
pretty
straightforward.
Today
we
have
I
wanted
to
give
the
mentorship
folks
a
chance
to
give
us
some
update
since
I
feel
like
we
were
kind
of
rushed
a
little
bit
last
time
since
we
kind
of
ran
out
of
time,
so
I
went
to
put
them
first
and
just
let
them
have
had
the
floor
for
a
minute
to
give
us
some
updates.
B
This
is
Sean,
I
can
I
can
jump
in
I?
Don't
have
I'm
not
at
a
computer
today,
but
I
can
say
that
we
did
a
release
of
augur
this
past
week,
which
many
of
you
saw
on
the
email
is
yesterday
and
the
next
release
of
augur,
which
will
be
in
between
two
and
three
weeks,
will
include
a
number
of
the
machine
learning
and
yet
lab
workers
that
the
google
Summer
of
Code
has
students
have
been
developing.
B
A
B
Yeah
the
current
the
release
tree
made
yesterday.
Actually
we
made
it
last
week,
but
I
sent
the
announcement
out
yesterday,
because
nobody
reads:
emails
on
Fridays
or
Thursdays
in
the
summer
does
include
an
itemized
list
of
the
major
things
that
are
in
the
nuago
release.
We're
pretty
excited
about
it.
A
B
D
B
The
initial
releases
will
be
I
think
just
the
beginning
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
they're
doing
going
to
release
it.
For
example,
the
merge
worker
or
the
pull
request
worker
is
actually
significantly
more
involved
in
the
issue
worker.
So
the
student
that's
working
on
the
issue
worker
is
going
to
turn
their
attention
towards
writing.
B
Additional
tests
for
the
entire
worker
infrastructure
and
the
merger
quest
worker
student
is
going
to
need
to
spend
more
time
just
because
there
are
there's
just
a
lot
more
things
like
commits
and
files
and
labels
and
status
changes
in
the
and
the
merge
or
pull
request
worker
that
exists
for
issues.
Okay,.
E
B
The
machine
learning
people
that's
sort
of
like
you
know
when
are
you
done
raising
your
children?
It's
there's
always
optimizations
and
tests
that
can
be
done
to
improve
anything.
That's
AI
or
machine
learning
focused,
so
I
expect
getting
something
out
from
them
will
give
us
something
to
share
with
the
community
that
we
can
then
get
feedback
on
and
then
use
that
feedback
to
refine
and
improve
those
workers,
cool
Thanks,
sure.
A
B
C
Just
kind
of
logistically
we're
still
working
with
the
Linux
Foundation
to
try
to
get
our
money
in
the
community
bridge.
So
basically,
the
way
that
Google
Summer
of
Code
is
set
up
is
that
it
has
to
go
to
a
Payoneer
account
when
the
LF
set
up
the
Payoneer
account
for
us
and
then
over.
So
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
been
accumulating
money
as
participating
in
google
Summer
of
Code
and
we've
been
requesting
to
get
those
funds
over
to
community
bridge.
I
haven't
looked
today,
but
I'm
guessing
they're.
Still
not
there.
B
C
B
A
C
E
E
A
C
I
was
seeing
if
Matt
was
on
so
I
I'm
I
guess
I'll,
give
the
update
with
Tola
who's
doing
outreach.
He
he's
kind
of
off
this
week
for
some
university
exams.
Okay,
yep
still
he's
still
working
on
the
translation
stuff,
so
it's
kind
of
been
a
while
it's
taken
a
little
while
to
focus
this
one
down,
because
I
think
this
is
something
new
that
we're
taking
on
with
the
project
the
KS
project.
So
it's
been
a
little.
A
F
C
H
A
G
C
B
C
B
H
B
H
H
You
have
a
new
in
dingy
stock,
but
we
participated
as
an
independent
organization,
but
in
season
of
dogs
we
participated
under
de
Linux
Foundation.
So
when
it
comes
to
when
it
comes
as
a
cyborg,
we
have
we
have
to
share
our
slots
along
with
a
few
other
sub
box,
like,
for
example,
this
time
for
GA
solely
we
might
receive
less
number
of
slots
because
there
are,
there
are
a
few
sub
box,
so
we
can
expect.
Maybe
one
two
yeah:
that's
it
I,
don't
think
we
might
get
above
two
or
three
yeah.
H
Documentation
as
well
like
like,
if
there's
a
organization
independently
participating,
so
they
want
me
able
to
accommodate
more
than
two
technical
writers
to
a
specific
organization
and
if
the
organs
you
should
have
the
sub
organization
under
it.
So
the
number
of
slots
I
feel
like
which
they
wanna
serve
is
around
like
four
to
five
really.
A
H
Okay,
give
my
update
regarding
d-sub
project
I,
just
missed
it.
Okay,
yes,
I
was
working
on
the
quality
models
project,
so
I
performed
the
pilot
study
on
the
campus
projects
m4
this
basically
student
community
in
my
University,
so
as
I'm
a
member
of
it,
I
have
a
pretty
good
knowledge
of
what
projects
are
doing
good
and
what
are
not
doing
so.
I
suggested
to
my
mentor
so
study.
So
you
can
I
drop
the
link
in
the
minutes.
H
You
can
actually
fix,
if
you're
interested,
to
look
at
the
dashboard
and
results
of
the
dashboard
yeah
and
the
second
update
is
this
week.
I
am
planning
another
pilot
study
on
the
github.
Sorry,
sorry,
sorry,
geek,
lab
projects
get
lab
on
my
system
and
we
might
expend
we
might
expect
to
add
two
more
data,
so
suspend
study
that
is
PI
four
millimeter,
so
in
the
next
week,
I'll
share
did
that.
A
A
E
A
C
See
him
I've
been
chatting
with
Matt?
Ok
right,
so
just
so,
you
all
know
the
you're
all
I
think
very
familiar
with
the
concept
behind
the
DNI
badging
program.
So
Matt,
Snell
and
hosta
best
have
been
working
on
really
defining
the
roles
associated
with
the
DNI
badging
program,
and
then
this
week
they
are
running
a
pilot
project
which
is
essentially
asking
people
to
take
on
the
role
of
an
applicant.
So
they
would
use
the
system
to
apply
for
a
badge
and
then
also
asking
people
to
take
on
the
role
of
reviewers.
C
A
C
A
G
A
A
C
Sure
so
we've
been
a
lot
of.
You
know
that
we're
working
on
developing
community
health
reports
and
we've
been
working
with
Brian
Warner
and
a
kneeler
ooh,
the
Linux
Foundation,
and
we
have
the
entire
process.
I.
Think
pretty
well-established
at
this
point
in
terms
of
how
somebody
would
apply
and
request
a
report
in
terms
of
like
the
form
that
they
would.
G
C
So
we're
this
report
is
kind
of
this
funny
thing
where
we're
trying
to
balance
enough
information
to
be
useful,
not
too
much
information
to
be
overwhelming
enough
information
for
people
to
ask
whether
they
want
to
know
more
so
we're
it's.
If
this
funny
thing
so
we're
not
quite
sure
what
the
metrics
would
be
on
this
report,
and
so.
B
B
You
have
the
example:
that's
in
the
notes,
I
see,
I,
think
you
matin
Elizabeth
and
Kate
Stewart
and
I
were
talking
about
it
earlier
today
that
there's
more
than
one
metric
there
and
there's
also
one
metric
there.
So
the
metric-
that's
in
that
particular
graph,
is
contributors,
but
it's
looking
at
contributors
of
six
different,
specific
types
of
contribution.
So
it's
a
report
that
it
incorporates
if
we
really
looked
at
it,
probably
at
least
six
different
chaos
metrics
put
into
one
report
that
consolidates
them
in
a
way
that
helps
a
community
manager.
B
Answer
questions,
and
so
most
of
our
most
of
our
metrics
are
very,
very
discreet
and
don't
by
definition,
include
time,
except
as
a
parameter
and
I
think
I.
Think
the
temporality
of
the
report,
as
well
as
sort
of
the
integration
of
multiple
metrics
to
provide
information.
That's
actionable,
those
that
those
are
inputs
into
what
the
this
standard
community
report
becomes
like.
C
So
that
what
came
out
of
the
talk
most
recently
was
that
the
community
report
may
not
necessarily
have
individual
discrete
chaos
metrics
but
provide
a
sample
of,
for
example.
What's
in
this
document,
a
sample
of
metrics
that
can
be
brought
together
to
provide
some
meaningful
insights,
so
the
picture
here
is
just
it's
purely
an
example
and
then
a
second
page
or
the
break
sheet.
The
back
sheet
of
the
report
could
contain
a
glossary
of
all
of
the
discrete
metrics
that
were
used
in
the
creation
of
this
report.
So
we
could
say:
listen!
Here's!
C
I
Thank
you
hear
me:
yes,
I,
absolutely
love
that
Matt
I
think
there's
something
to
I,
don't
know
what
the
first
rep
is
gonna
look
like,
or
even
the
third
but
I
bet
that
the
sixth
we're
gonna
be
really
impressed
with
ourselves
and
and
I
like
the
idea
of
us
applying
our
own
practices
to
somebody
outside
of
us.
Maybe
we
can
practice
internally
like
find
a
project.
I
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
right.
If
that's
Matt,
Roberge
I
think
it's
poised.
They
recognized
in
that
all
of
the
yeah
there's
there's
a
couple
of
fogger
reports
that
we
put
together
like
this.
That
contains
significantly
more
than
one
page
of
these
kinds
of
metrics,
and
so
it
is
choosing
from
that.
Catalog
try
to
figure
out
which
collections
of
metrics
shown
in
which
ways
are
most
most
useful
across
the
board.
J
Whether
we
want
to
have
our
working
group
representation
somehow
translate
into
the
report
and
have
for
each
working
group
one
or
two
visualizations
that
combine
multiple
metrics
or
whether
we
don't
want
whether
we
don't
think
that's.
We
don't
want
to
impose
the
way
that
we
work
to
the
report.
We
could
just
abandon
that
and
say
for
the
report.
It
doesn't
matter
where
other
metrics
came
from,
who
worked
on
it.
I
I'm
super
interested
in
what
that
would
look
like
I
like
on
one
hand,
I
love.
The
idea
of
not
a
friend
always
said
your
org
chart
is
showing
when
people
from
a
company
are
all
speaking
with
different
voices,
because
once
in
this
marketing
group,
and
once
in
that
marketing
group
and
I
always
avoid
that,
like
we've
got
to
come
from
outside
in.
But
at
the
same
time.
That
part
of
this
is
an
attempt
for
people
to
understand
why
we're
organized
the
way
were
organized.
I
F
B
No-Contact
aggregate
context
is
super
important.
We
just
released
a
worker
that
captures
every
software
released
the
repository
tags,
so
we
can
start
producing
these
reports
by
release
instead
of
by
date,
collection
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
really
how
a
lot
of
projects
think
not
every
project
does
formal
releases
on
a
git
lab
or
github,
but
many
do
I.
C
G
A
A
C
C
A
A
D
E
B
Yeah
and
I
just
curious
to
look
at
these
other
reports,
but
yeah
I
think
maybe
an
open
call
for
anyone
who's
interested
in
this
and
maybe
in
advance
grimore
lab
an
auger
can
provide
some
examples
of
things.
They've
done
and
maybe
even
take
a
look
at
the
links
that
Rey
provided
and
see
if
we
can
mimic
or
incorporate
some
of
those
thoughts.
So
the
discussion
can
be
grounded
in
actual
ways
of
looking
at
our
metrics.
A
C
C
G
K
B
C
A
A
So
yesterday,
Matt
and
myself
met
with
Christiana
tech
to
do
the
to
do
group
and
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
collaborate
with
that
group
a
little
more
and
how
we
can
support
them
and
because
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
between
you
know
kind
of
things
that
they
care
about
and
what
we
care
about.
So
we
kind
of
landed
on
three
different
initiatives
that
we're
gonna
be
looking
into
with
them
in
case
anybody
has
any
you
know,
interest
in
any
of
these
by
all
means,
speak
up
or
questions
it's.
A
You
know
we
just
talked
about
this
yesterday,
so
it's
super
high
level
right
now.
We
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
details,
but
those
will
be
worked
out
as
we
go.
So
the
first
thing
we
talked
about
was
sending
a
survey
out
to
their
their
communities,
just
to
see
kind
of
what
metrics
are
important
for
them.
What
they
want
to
see
I'm
why
it
was.
A
C
A
To
go
Matt
way
to
just
screw
up
my
whole
flow
I,
don't
even
know
what
I'm
saying
now
thanks
a
lot
I'm
just
kidding
so
anyway,
so
we
were
talking
about
just
surveying
their
their
projects.
Just
to
see
you
know,
what's
important
to
them
and
kind
of
comparing
different
projects
with
what's
important
to
who
I
think
would
be
really
interesting
for
us
to
look
at
so
the
next
steps
for
that
or
we're
just
gonna,
throw
a
survey
together
and
we're
gonna
send
it
to
Chris
to
send
to
distribute
on
kind
of
our
joint
behalf.
A
So
if
you
have
any
experience
interest
anything
if
you're
curious
about
this
project-
and
you
want
to
kind
of
participate
in
that-
let
me
know
and
I'll
make
sure
that
or
you
get
a
link
to
I
assume
we'll
probably
do
it
in
a
Google
Doc.
We
haven't
even
really
gotten
that
bar,
but
probably
that's
how
it
will
go
down.
B
K
A
I'm
not
sure
to
be
honest,
I
envisioned
it
to
be
a
little
bit
different,
because
I
think
we
kind
of
are
wanting
to
get
their
opinions
on
things
versus
send
me
this
data
about
my
project,
so
I
I
think
it
will
be
a
little
bit
different
than
just
sending
the
Community
Survey,
but
it
will
I
think
I'm
fairly
certain
that
the
results
of
that
survey
could
inform
what
questions
or
metrics.
We
include
on
our
own
Community
Survey.
A
B
G
I
A
Yeah
and
then
I
think
those
those
results
would
be
published
jointly
with
us
and
to
do
it
also
kind
of
brings
a
little
more
visibility
to
what
we're
working
on
and
and
kind
of
just
keeps
us
in
the
forefront
of
people's
minds
for
book
size.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
good
thing
for
everybody,
and
then
the
second
thing
we
talked
about
was
working
on
I
put
a
link
in
there.
Chris
mentioned
doing
a
landscape.
B
I
A
project,
so
a
project
could
be
a
collection
of
repositories,
but
I've
said
a
lot
of
time
now,
I'm
getting
that
landscape
and
it's
grown
from
like
a
very
manageable
set
like
I.
Think.
If
we
try
to
visualize
our
metrics,
it
would
be
what
the
early
days
of
the
CNCs
landscape
looks
like,
which
was
pretty
navigable
I.
B
B
So
the
collection
here
is
the
massive
collection
and
we
would
run
chaos
statistics
across
this
massive
collection
to
identify
things
that,
for
reasons
of
accelerating
participation
or
other,
they
would
want
all
to
do.
Group
or
many
to
do.
Group
members
would
want
to
pay
closer
attention
to
that
project.
Is
that
right.
C
C
I
Makes
sense
to
me
and
like
the
categories
of
Oslo
would
be
like
reporting
and
community
management
and
messaging
or
whatever
sort
of
clapping
sedation
system
would
come
up.
That
would
be
fascinating.
It's
definitely
broader
scope
than
what
we
normally
cover
in
our
niche,
but
I
kind
of
I
love.
The
idea
of
collaborating
and
influencing
Hospital
in
general
through
chaos,
I
think
that
only
elevates
our
cause.
I
G
B
I
I
I've
read
through
to
do
groups
documentation,
there
is
kind
of
I'd
say,
there's
a
general
practice
of
what
people
mean
by
ausma
that
to
do
group
has
to
they
have
a
collection
of
guides
and
tutorials
around
like
how
to
create
one,
how
to
measure
it
and
we're
featured
heavily
in
there
but
yeah
there
there's.
Definitely
differentiation
in
practice.
K
Yeah
I'm
the
VMware
rep
for
for
the
to
do
group
for
for
our
ausco
and
I
could
say
that
they
do
vary
wildly
depending
on
what
what
the
group
looks
like,
because
there
are
some
like
like
Bloomberg,
it's
like
one
person,
you
might
have
expanded
to
a
second
person
and
he
handles
a
bunch
of
stuff
and
works
that
are
the
office
of
the
CTO
VMware
we're
like
40
people.
We
do
various
things,
but
the
guides
are
good
kind
of
a
starting
point
for
what
you
would
expect
to
have
it
in
auspi.
K
K
To
understand
that
the
spas
are
very
different
from
each
other
when
you're
thinking
about
metrics.
For
for
these
types
of
projects,
yeah.
B
B
G
Even
before
that,
I
would
ask
like
how
we
are
going
to
organize
from
that
in
big
ecosystem
of
projects
like
for
every
sport.
They
have
a
different
set
of
rules
and
object.
Isn't
there
focus
on
different
projects,
so
it'll
be
like
a
giant
universe
of
the
projects
that
we
are
focusing
on
for
a
different
hospice,
so.
C
Let
me
let
me
say
that
this
was
a
just
a
preliminary
discussion
that
we're
with
Chris
I,
don't
have
all
the
answers
so
that
we
were
just
kicking
around
ideas
where
kind
of
thoughts
and
the
chaos
project
may
merge,
with
thoughts
that
are
in
the
to
do
group
so
how
the
chaos
project
fits.
Georg
I
mean
we'd,
be
obviously
one
of
perhaps
this
the
squares.
Why
why
the
chaos
project
would
be
involved
in
creating
the
entire
Hospital
landscape?
C
I
think
that
would
that's
a
little
bit
open
in
my
mind,
like
what's
the
larger
goal
in
creating
that
landscape,
so
out
of
the
three
like
so
far,
the
first
one,
the
survey
seems
to
match
a
little
bit
more
clearly
and
immediately.
This
one
may
have
to
be
worked
out
of
it
now
in
each
of
the
cards.
If
you
click
on
the
cards
in
the
landscape,
there
are
metrics
in
there.
G
C
K
More
clarity
on
on
what
Chris
is
thinking
because,
depending
on
where
you
tried
to
go
with
this,
if
this
was
like
a
landscape
of
projects
that
spose
might
be
involved
in,
that
would
be,
like
thousands,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
open-source
projects
like
everything
which
isn't
which
isn't
doable
there
might
be
some
area.
So
we'd
want
to
focus
on
so
tools
that
open-source
program
offices
themselves
might
use.
So
if
you
focused
around
things
like
tools,
the
loss
was
neat.
Things
were
on
compliance,
for
example,.
G
K
C
K
A
This
is
something
that
we
care
about
and
we're
looking
at,
and
you
know
we're
actively
monitoring.
So
just
you
know
again
super
high
level
really
early
on
in
the
conversations,
but
there
might
be
something
down
the
line
once
once.
D&Amp;I
becomes
a
thing
when
it's
completely
released
or
any
badges
in
the
future
if
we
wanted
to
integrate
in
with
that
landscape
card.
So
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
that
feel
free
to
speak
up
or
drop
him
in
the
drop
him
in
the
meeting
minutes
or
anything
like
that,
I
will.
C
Say
Chris
had
also
talked
not
from
a
to
do
group
perspective,
but
from
a
CN
CF
perspective
that,
as
the
badging
program
moves
forward,
particularly
the
project
level
that
he
would
be
interested
in
participating
from
CN,
CF
side
of
things
and
thinking
about
how
that
works.
So
that
was
really
cool
too.
It.
C
A
I
Yeah,
we
still
open
comments
for
metrics
that
are
under
consideration.
I
was
fed
in
this
morning
cruising
through
them,
and
the
candidate
releases
they're
really
fun
to
read
and
just
kind
of
see
what
other
groups
are
doing.
If
you
like
me,
have
been
siloed
in
one
working
group
for
a
bit,
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
expand
your
chaos
mind
and
offer
some.
You
know
some
grammar
help
where
needed,
or
just
some
additional
context.
So
don't
forget
to
do
that.