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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Hangout: April 10th, 2018
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The CHAOSS Weekly Hangout
A
This
last
week,
when
I
missed
a
call
by
two
hours,
so
the
submission
for
the
Community
Leadership
Summit
that
was
accepted
was
it
it
was.
It
was
accepted,
so
they
put
me
on.
They
put
me
as
a
speaker
for
now,
I
mean
there's
a
possibility
that
ildikó
will
could
make
it
to
the
US
that
week,
I
guess
well.
Yeah
Wolfe
I
mean
I'm
99.9%,
sure
that
I'll
be
there
so
well
with
both
of
us.
Are
there
I
guess
we'll
find
out?
Who
gets
to
speak
for
15
minutes,
but
is.
B
A
D
D
B
Maybe
still
on
this,
this
topic
open
source,
North,
America
submissions
are
due
at
the
end
of
the
month.
I
think
you
know
towards
the
end
of
April,
so
obviously
we'll
be
submitting
something
to
that.
So
it's
on
my
radar
I
haven't
officially
done
anything
yet
because
the
end
of
the
month
seems
like
forever
away
at
the
moment.
I.
B
D
B
B
E
Still
have
to
know
in
the
mailing
list,
the
organising
committee-
that's
something
that
they
plan
to
do
this
week
and
I.
Think
that
once
we
are,
let's
say
formally
organized
it,
quick
Innes
that
you
will
make
all
the
colleges,
including
location
and
time
in
and
fall
and
put
an
open
call
for
distribution,
cool.
B
F
F
F
F
A
F
F
D
B
Okay,
while
you're
looking
at
up,
would
everybody
for
this,
this
kind
of
pre
conference
or
whatever
the
on
conference
that
we
do
the?
What
would
you
all
think
of
having
kind
of
a
set
of
talks
dedicated
to
the
software,
and
maybe
a
set
of
excuse
me
a
set
of
talks
that
might
be
more
about
the
implications
of
metrics
or
search
that's
being
done
around
metrics.
It's
not
just
focused
solely
on
the
software
kind
of
like
a
two-track
thing.
B
G
F
B
F
F
A
G
E
E
E
F
One
of
one
of
the
main
challenges
and
I
see
it
on
that
side
and
I
have
talked
to
his
loose
about.
This
is
the
biggest
problem
that
I
see
so
far
is
how
to
convert
this
work
into
papers,
that
I
can
publish
and
and
I
think
that
they
made
the
biggest
challenge.
Is
that
a
lot
of
this?
A
lot
of
this?
A
lot
of
the
work
in
metrics
has
been
done
for
the
last
15
years.
B
F
B
D
F
Well,
I
had
a
big
conversation
with
Sean
last
year,
with
Japan
and
and
I
said
that
one
of
the
things
is
very
easy
to
measure
you
can
measure
everything
right.
All
you
have
to
do
is
create
your
ruler
and
just
put
not
just
on
it,
and
then
you
can
measure
yeah.
It's
very
difficult
this
to
demonstrate
these.
The
usefulness
of
a
particular
metric,
yeah
and
so
I
think
that
that's,
but
what
that's?
What
I
feel
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
of
whatever
we
create?
F
B
G
F
E
I
was
going
to
say
that
in
most
of
the
people,
interesting
house
and
not
academics,
I'm
not
talking
about
the
people
doing
the
staff,
but
about
the
people
doing
the
interested
in
the
results
of
cash.
So
I
mean
this.
Topic
is
interesting
for
all
I
mean
for
you
and
for
the
name
for
me,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it
is
interesting
for
the
couch
community
at
large.
F
And
this
really
becomes
the
biggest
challenge
with
respect
to
the
participation
of
some
of
us,
because
bird
there
are
the
organizations
that
will
benefit
from
there.
So
with
Asia,
a
spec
will
be
one
of
the
beneficiaries,
because
you're
going
to
demonstrate
the
knees
fulness
of
those
metrics
and
then
improve
your
business
around
them
and
when
you
put
your
head
or
researcher
I,
think
that's
a
little
bit
different
and
but
I
don't
sell
papers
to
the
practitioners.
F
B
E
Ask
me:
let
me
translate
that
into
another
language.
From
the
academic
point
of
view,
it's
very
difficult
to
justify
the
damage
spent
in
Tisch,
because
you
cannot
publish
people
that
are
going
to
help
you
to
improve
your
curriculum
and
that's
how
that
happens
to
me
as
well.
So
every
time
I
have
to
make
a
decision
of
spending
the
time
right
in
the
software
dealing
with
how
to
you
see
it
and
stuff
like
that
or
writing
papers,
and
in
some
cases
both
things
can
be
aligned,
but
that's
very
rare.
E
Usually
you
need
to
choose
and
I
completely
agree
with
you.
The
note.
That's
not
problem
it'll
make
sense
something
like
this
but
buried.
Oh
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
a
way
out.
I
mean
I've
been
living
like
that
for
maybe
ten
years
and
I
think
my
brain
is
played
between
what
may
be
of
interest
to
the
industry.
What
we
interesting
to
the
Crimea,
unfortunately,
because
I
think
things
interesting
to
the
industry
should
be
also
interesting
to
the
Crimea,
but
I've
learned,
that's
not
the
case.
F
E
Don't
know
so
in
some
cases
we
have
found
well
finding
their
industrial
track
venues
and
somewhere
that
they
they
appreciate
the
kind
of
things
like
the
industry,
but
in
some
other
cases
I
mean
you
can
try
to
understand
a
whole
community,
for
instance,
and
do
a
word--just
them
with
the
community
itself
or
the
industry
is
participated
in
it.
I
perceive
that
when
you
come
to
an
academic
venue,
usually
they
did
that
the
complaint
is
well.
We
don't
know
if
this
is
general
enough
for
me.
E
Because
I
have
it
many
finding
the
middleman
in
part
about
a
mother
law,
firm
or
warden
and
the
correct
terms
and
so
on.
But
there
is
another
thing
that
is
related
to
the
funnel
ends
of
which
be
different
between
trying
to
understand
something
and
solving
a
specific
problem
that
an
industry
may
have
and
converting
that
into
a
let's
say,
a
kind
of
a
theoretical
model
that
can
be
tested
in
several
projects
and
can
be
really
useful
for
our
paper
and
again
the
middle
ground.
E
B
The
work
of
the
chaos
project
so
to
me
it
I,
would
love
to
keep
these
two
conversations,
which
I
think
are
quite
close.
I
think
I'd
like
to
keep
them
aligned
the
best
that
we
can
and
if
we
can
spend
time
in
Vancouver
doing
that
and
I
agree
with
you:
hey
soos,
maybe
it's
not
a
main
track
kind
of
thing
right,
but
if
we
can
spend
time
talking
about
what
the
research
opportunities
are
or
how
to
how
to
keep
practice
and
research
aligned,
this
is
something
that
we
I'll
be
cognizant.
E
F
It's
to
make
them
aware
that
we
need
to
get
money
to
do
research,
the
money
that
we'll
be
investing
traveling
or
doing
things
for
happiness
means
working
on
any
of
this
has
to
come
from
somewhere
and
that's
usually
usage
funds.
So
that
means
that
one
way
or
another
has
to
translate
into
papers.
Yep.
A
No
I
mean
I
was
just
I,
mean
pretty
much
like
echoing
what
I
think
what
you
said.
That
and
I
mean
I'm
I,
guess
I'm
coming
more
from
a
practitioners
side,
but
I'm.
If
this
is
a
parallel
track
and
I
mean
I,
don't
see
how
harm
in
having
it
like
you're
interested
people
will
show
up
right
down.
You
think
it's
important
to
have
that
conversation
and
I
mean
we
wanted
to
have
researchers
as
part
of
the
project
for
a
reason
right,
so
I,
think
being
inclusive
and
I
mean
if
people
more
on
depression.
A
D
E
We
put
the
wolf
bad
there.
For
me,
the
interesting
venue
is
the
other
one.
I
mean
it's
like
North
America,
because
there's
were,
if
you
want
do
this
case
this
with
people
in
the
industry,
that's
really
what
they
are
in
case.
I
think
that
we
already
have
a
mixture
of
both
profiles
and
the
main
Permian
cows.
My
my
personal
improvement.
This
is
it's
difficult
to
define
the
relationship
between
my
two
granules
industrial
one
and
Academy
one,
but
presenting
the
problem
to
the
industry.
That's
more
like
doing
it
in
the
in
the
open
source
image.
F
E
G
G
B
B
B
F
C
C
C
D
As
to
what
they
want
to
see
or
what
they
would
like
the
workgroup
to
focus
on,
unfortunately,
there
was
no
comments
from
the
community,
so
she
presented
it,
but
there
was
nothing
coming
back
from
the
audience
in
terms
of
what
the
odd
which
the
audience
would
like
to
work
on,
what
the
audience
would
like
the
Wardrobe
to
focus
on
or
to
see
the
workgroup
do.
Okay,
the.
D
C
G
B
B
Cool
all
right,
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
be
there,
but
that
I'll
kind
of
bring
up
is
continuing
to
maintain
the
alignment
between
what's
going
on
with
the
DNI
repository
over
in
the
metric
and
then
the
work
that
will
be
done
in
the
DNI
work
group.
I
think
this
has
come
up
a
number
of
times
the
important
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
several
instances
of
the
same
thing
all
over
the
place.
B
Not
all
the
place
put
into
different
places
is
to
just
reduce
confusion,
so
the
figuring
out
a
way
that
we
can
stay
in
alignment
or
indicate
that
the
metrics
committee
is
the
Christ
able
version
and
the
work
group
is
the
allbeing
version
and
that
work
group
written
pieces
to
the
stable
as
something
without
getting
overly
complicated
I.
Don't
know.
The
right
answer
is
here.
D
B
C
The
point
here
is
that
we
are
still
we
have
kind
of
started
from
scratch
in
terms
of
checking
that
everyone
feels
comfortable
with
the
gold
defined
in
the
working
group.
So
we
have
not
even
defined
the
next
questions,
so
we
are
still
defining
those.
So,
basically,
once
we
are
producing
this,
we'll
try
to
move
things.
Okay,
yeah.
B
D
C
D
B
B
Okay,
cool
because
I
think
that
was
the
one
of
the
main
premise
premises
from
AI
or
missus
behind
the
work
groups
was
that
these
are
the
as
you
had
brought
up
I
think
a
while
ago
Danielle
these
are
the
that
can
really
create
this
awesome
bridge
between
the
metrics
and
the
software.
But
these
are
actually
tractable
things,
so
that's
great
so
just
continuing
to
foster
that
cool
I
still
swearing
at
something
else
to
say,
but
I
still
can't
remember
it
I
know
nobody.
B
D
A
G
G
D
B
F
A
B
A
B
A
E
I
have
just
a
new
comment
in
the
room:
our
lock
we're
starting
to
look
at
the
great
data
ray
I
know.
You
are
specifically
interested
in
disk,
so
the
idea
is
to
go
through
the
data
that
you
can
extract
from
great
and
try
to
find
out
the
kind
of
information
that
is
useful
because
right
now
be
more
alive,
is
not
getting
information
about,
for
instance,
divorce
or
who
is
reviewing
and
stuff
like
that.
It's
only
getting
information
about
who
is
that
the
code
review?
E
So
if
anybody
wants
to
be
involved
I'm
starting
to
write
some
scripts
and
some
of
them
are
already
in
the
Cremona
tutorial,
but
I
am
starting
basically
to
explore
the
information
how
to
country
it
and
so
on,
and
the
next
step
will
be
how
to
visualize
it.
Danny
was
also
doing
a
work
in
this
base.
It
on
the
event,
I
said
a
indexes
which
basically
means
converting
everything
happening
in
buried
to
an
event.
F
E
When
somebody
reviews
an
event,
for
instance,
so
that
then
you
can
create
the
database
with
all
of
that
information,
so
the
idea
is
basically
to
do
the
same
and
do
it
in
a
way
that
we
can
do
something
similar.
We
have
two
requests
later
so
if
some
of
you
want
to
join
I'm
more
than
happy
of
walking
William,
that's.
E
F
E
The
main
thing
is
that
for
this
he
would
be
needing
a
new
data
source.
If
I
mean
if
he
starts
with
carrot,
but
he
was
again
commenting
on
how
to
include
Percival
as
with
another
dead
source
and
I,
think
that
could
be
the
easiest
path
for
the
Internet.
In
any
case,
in
the
context
of
this
working
group
that
we
decided
to
start
on
the
on
the
matrix,
we
also
need
to
have
something
similar.
So
ok.
G
D
Repository
I
create
a
full
request
on
the
code
of
conduct
that
I
would
like
the
governing
board
to
review
and
approve
its
the
changes
we've
talked
about
before
of
making
the
code
of
conduct
team
definition
more
inclusive
and
allowing
less
specified
collection
of
people
and
changing
the
number
to
number
so
that
always
have
a
breaking
type.
Writing
quote
and
I
would
like
this
change
to
be
approved
before
we
then
elect
the
team
so
that
we
don't
have
to
change
the
team
constellation
again.
G
C
Yes,
just
a
comment:
this
is
kind
of
a
big
question,
but
I
was
looking
for.
Students
in
I
mean
students
in
terms
of
the
outreach
in
google
Summer
of
Code.
The
outreach
people
have
create
websites
for
basically,
you
can
track
you
can
list,
they
have
a
list
of
people
and
mentors
and
students
and
so
on,
but
ie
for
some
reason.
C
C
B
C
D
C
G
G
C
C
So
for
our
regime,
we
have
some
lists
of
people
and
the
point
is
to
understand
the
retention
of
those
developers
through
time
if
they
have
moved
from
this
project
in
up
in
Stockton,
are
pro
yet
and
the
let's
say,
interaction
with
other
people
with
the
community
and
so
on,
to
basically
trying
to
understand
what
mentorship
actually
means
from
a
quantitative
perspective
and
in
at
the
very
end,
try
to
produce
some
metrics,
and
this
that's
also.
The
question
was,
if
you
have
such
lists
or
some
idea
of
how
to
retrieve
that
data
would
be
good.
F
G
F
I
sent
it
I,
sent
it
to
the
mentors,
and
we
also
have
a
survey
that
asked
this
is
explicitly
what
is
what
they
want
and-
and
we
are
going
to
attach
that
to
their
to
the
paper,
to
send
it
to
the
PeopleSoft
Engineering.
So
we're
just
finishing
that
in
these
days,
but
essentially
they
is
that
many
of
them
what
they
want.
It's
just
the
money,
the
money
crop.