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B
Hey
everyone
welcome
back
to
chaos
january
11th,
tuesday,
edition
of
the
chaos
community
meeting
really
happy
to
see
everybody.
I
missed
you
all.
I
hope
everyone
had
a
good
nice
safe,
healthy
break.
I
have
we
had
covid
running
rampant
through
our
family.
I
know
a
few
others
have
as
well.
So
hopefully
everyone.
If
that
happened
to
you,
you
made
it
through
relatively
unscathed.
B
I
hope
yeah.
It
was
not
fun
and
it's
still
going
on
oh
well.
It
is
what
it
is.
Let
me
share
the
minutes
here,
just
in
case
anybody's
missing
it,
and
I
will.
B
All
right,
okay,
cool!
So
if
you
haven't
added
your
name,
I
think
everybody
has
already,
because
you
all
know
the
drill,
but
if
anybody
hasn't
feel
free
to
drop
it
in
there
tell
us
what's
going
on.
Whatever
is
happening
in
your
world
would
be
great
to
know,
because
we
are
interested
in
what's
what's
going
on
with
you
yeah.
So,
let's
just
jump
into
the
agenda.
The
first
one
is
just
hi.
D
My
daughter
is
studying
abroad
this
semester
in
barcelona.
Oh
that's
a
good
place
to
be
despite
the
pandemic,
so
that's
kind
of
fun.
F
F
Final
fantasy
14.
cool.
E
A
B
B
D
G
B
E
Oh
yes,
I
was,
should
I
just.
E
Yes,
let
me
do
that,
but
let's
talk
about
the
names
real
quick
we
have.
Sometimes
you
know,
members
of
the
chaos
community
or
whatever
we're
talking
to
each
other
and
part
of
building
an
identity
for
ourselves
is
that
we
have
some
way
of
calling
ourselves
giving
ourselves
a
name-
and
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
We
just
haven't
really
landed
on
anything
and
so
that
that's
what
that
is,
and
the
first
one
chaots
or
in
in
german,
is
someone
who
is
chaotic.
E
D
G
Agents
of
chaos
well,
in
the
sense
of
like
we
all.
G
A
A
H
We
should
there
should
be
some
distinction
in
the
name
there,
because
I
think
I
think
half
of
these
half
of
these
imply
that
we're
causing
chaos.
F
B
I
was
just
going
to
say:
do
we
want
to
set
up
a
little
poll
and
send
it
to
the
mailing
list,
or
how
do
we
want
to
hold
it.
A
I
want
money
penny
to
give
me
one
of
those
cool
cars.
That's
not
moneypenny,
that's,
never
mind
you
you,
yes,
thank
you.
My
bond
references
are
stale.
E
A
I
A
E
C
Does
yours
have
the
little
flat
pieces
so
we
have
the
flat
pieces
so
that
the
robber
can
always
sit
there
on
there.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
can
like.
E
C
C
C
A
B
It
all
right
so,
in
the
last
meeting
in
the
evolution
working
group,
we
were
talking
about
reviewing
the
metrics,
since
that's
kind
of
part
of
our
part
of
our
goals
for
2022
is
to
implement
this
process
by
which
we
review
old
metrics,
make
sure
that
they're
they
word
they're
worded
properly
and
are
up
to
date
with
things
that
have
come
up
since
we
have
been
developing
metrics.
So
we
kevin
armstrong
sean.
B
H
H
So
some
of
the
some
of
the
considerations
that
we
had
when
we
created
this
checklist
are
the
three
three
new
items
that
we
want
to
add
to
the
matrix,
and
these
three
new
items
are
based
on
conversations
that
we've
been
having
in
the
community
meeting
and
those
three
things
are
adding
the
data
statement,
which
I
believe
so
it's
been
a
couple
months.
H
So
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
that
the
data
statement
was
going
to
be
a
pointer
at
the
top
of
the
implementation
section,
which
would
basically
go
to
a
document
that
I
I
think
lucas
was
going
to
take
the
lead
on
and
possibly
sophia
about,
some
of
the
the
bad
things
that
can
happen
with
using
these
metrics
in
regards
to
privacy
and
then
the
the
second
thing,
and
this
this
is
something
we've
been
talking
about.
H
A
little
bit
over
the
past
year
was
kind
of
knowing
knowing
when
these
metrics
need
to
be
reviewed
and
adding
some
sort
of
notation
onto
these
metrics
on
when
they
were
last
reviewed,
and
I
saw
there
was
a
a
comment
in
there
about
what
how
we,
how
would
we
how
we
would
determine
the
date-
and
I
think
the
the
question
was
about-
would
it
would
coincide
with
a
commit?
And
honestly,
I
think
that
would
be.
I
think,
that's
a
probably
a
good
number
to
use.
H
Just
if
a
commit
is
made
to
the
document
then
add
the
add
that
commit
date
to
the
document
as
well,
and
then
the
third
bit
we've
been
talking
about,
is
and
known
synonyms
to
the
metric.
H
H
I
forget
what
the
we've
been
talking
about:
creating
a
a
glossary,
so
we
we
could.
Actually,
if
we
put
the
known
synonyms
in
these
documents,
we
could
actually
just
scrape
these
documents
to
create
the
glossary
in
the
future,
which
would
save
us
a
ton
of
oversight
and
and
reduce
some
of
the
repetition
and
redundancy
that
we've
talked
about
as
well.
G
That's
clarification
there
so
for
cinnamon
synonyms.
Would
you
want
to
also
include
variations
too,
like
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
nuance
there
in
terms
of
like?
Are
these
just
alternative
names
like
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
the
the
move
away
from
trying
to
call
it
the
bus
factor,
so
the
velociraptor
factor,
I
don't
know,
there's
something
like
really.
G
The
sustained
event
report
that
came
out
a
couple
of
months
ago,
a
month
ago,
but
just
like
it's
like
that's
sort
of
an
alternative
name
versus
like
a
slightly
different
permutation
of
a
very
similar
metric,
and
I
didn't
know
if,
like
I,
I
think
that
might
get
a
little
confusing
if
it's
like
it's
a
cinnamon.
But
it's
actually
just
a
very
slightly
different
measurement
point.
Either.
H
Yeah,
so
in
the
in
the
example
of
change
request,
for
example,
the
synonyms
for
change
request
would
be
well,
the
first
one
would
be
pull
request
right
and
then
they're,
I
think,
they're
probably
george
requests
request.
H
Request
is
another
one,
but
I
think
we
for
now
we
just
start
with
the
really
obvious
ones
that
peop
that
would
cause
confusion.
I
don't
know
that
velociraptor
would
cause
confusion
for
bus
factor.
However,
I
do
know
that
bus
factor
also
goes
by
truck
factor.
I
believe.
H
Oh
I've
heard
both
so
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
distinction
in
the
way
that
they're
they're
they're
defined,
if
they're,
if
they're
looking
at
slightly
different
things,
I
don't
think
we
should
we
should
use
them.
I
think
the
goal
here
is
to
reduce
confusion,
not
to
cause
more
confusion.
H
D
H
H
H
D
C
D
F
Should
we
have
a
separate
item
also
for
inclusive
naming?
I
know
there's
an
initiative
out
there
for
that.
I
don't
know
a
lot
about
it,
but
I
know
that
there
are
some
things
that
we
could
make
a
little
more
clear,
inclusive
in
the
metric
wording
itself.
H
I
think
yeah,
I
think
inclusive
naming
is,
is
definitely
something
we
can.
We
can
add
to
the
and
to
this
list
I
think
that's
yeah
for
sure.
I
think
that
would
go
in
the
content
quality
section.
Yes,
so
and
I'm
I'm
perfectly
happy
adding
it
right
now.
H
H
So-
and
I
did
just
I
just
added
that
under
in
the
content
quality
underneath
the
dei
uses
for
the
metric,
so.
H
A
Mean
it's
I'd
say.
H
A
H
H
H
H
Would
lucas
or
sophia
be
able
to
talk
about
that
that
first
bit,
because
I
I
don't
remember
all
of
the
specifics
of
the
of
the
data
statement?
Was
there
a
document
that
was
created
or
were
there?
Are
there
notes
somewhere
about
what
that
was
going
to
look
like.
K
K
Then
you
did
some
writing
that
I
thought
was
really
good
and
should
be
pulled
in
and
then
or
maybe
an
interview.
I
forget.
Oh,
you
did
talk
and
and
then
we
talked
about
privacy
in
the
tuesday
call
and-
and
I
suggested
considering
dei
group
as
a
home
for
privacy
in
the
sense
that
primarily
impacted
people,
the
primary
impacts,
I
think,
had
a
lot
to
do
with
women
in
open
source,
getting
unwanted
attention
and
and
then
we
had
the
conversation
about.
K
You
know
booting
it
up
and
writing
this
thing
and
where
to
put
it-
and
I
think
the
open
question
was
who
was
gonna
work
on
it
like?
What's
our
what's
our
birds
of
feather
group.
K
I
guess
maybe
the
first
thing
is
to
create
the
working
group
or
the
boss.
Whatever
it's
going
to
be
the
interest
group,
I
wonder
who,
in
addition
to
sophia
and
myself,
would
want
to
engage.
H
H
D
D
D
D
H
I
think
there
there
are.
There
are
other
groups
that
have
created
some
nice
documents
on
this.
So
if
we're
not,
perhaps
we
can,
we
can
identify
a
few
documents
that
we
can
kind
of
use
as
the
the
exemplars
that
we
can
kind
of
point
to.
So
we
don't
have
to
completely
do
all
of
the
work
ourselves
yeah.
G
I
mean
I,
I
agree
kevin,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
we
can
point
to
like
I'm
just
thinking.
I
know
like
this
has
their
own
sort
of
pii
level
designations
and
most
of
those
don't
apply
in
these
settings,
but
I
guess
we
would
focus
on
the
ones
that
do
and
then
sort
of
create
our
own
gradation
or
suggest
a
gradation.
But
I
don't
know
again.
I
don't
be
too
prescriptive
because
I
agree
it's
more
about
awareness
and
I
think
I
did
give
another
talk
on
it,
since
this
happened.
G
That
was
just
more
about
there's
two
levels
of
it:
there's
the
actual
data
and
the
sensitivity
of
the
data
as
an
individual
datum
and
then
there's
the
impact
of
amassing
lots
of
data
about
a
person.
And
then,
when
you
start
bringing
additional
sources,
then
you
have
additional
context
around
that
person.
G
So,
even
if
any
one
individual
thing
is
only
revealing
what
they
have
provided,
they're
still
sort
of
this
pure
massing
profiles
about
people
given
their
public
setting
like
that's
typically
when
companies
that
are
doing
this
have
to
explicitly
state
that
they're
doing
this,
and
in
our
case
we
don't
have
any
sort
of
regulatory
mandate
to
do
so.
So
it's
more
of
a
called
the
awareness
that
we,
you
don't
have
you're
not
subject
to
the
same
types
of
regulations,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
shouldn't
be
conscientious
of
them.
K
I
think
that
doing
that
awareness
document
sort
of
fulfills
the
mandate
of
open
source
in
a
way
in
the
sense
that
it
is
it's
optional
for
people
who
want
to
engage.
But
it's
valuable
leg,
work
that
we
would
save
others
from
doing
like
we'd,
go
and
create
a
useful
resource
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
H
Oh
by
the
way,
just
just
a
note,
the
operations
team,
I
think
at
one.
According
to
our
previous
weekly
meetings
notes,
the
operations
team
was
going
to
be
the
the
group
that
was
going
to
work
on
the
the
data
privacy
bit.
D
Well,
if
that's
the
case,
let
me
ping
josh
and
retic,
because
they
were
the
ones
that,
because
this
is
the
operations
team
for
people
who
are
kind
of
aware,
is
kind
of
a
group
of
folks
that
monitor
things
that
have
an
impact
across
the
community
such
as
this,
you
know
like
we
were,
it
was
also.
There
were
the
guys
yash
and
ritik
were
the
two
that
worked
on
the
translations
process,
obviously
having
an
impact
across
the
community,
and
so
I
can
ping
them
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
they're
on
the
call.
H
So
we
haven't
and
we
haven't
had
a
we
haven't-
had
an
operations
team
meeting.
Yet
I
think
we
were
going
to
wait
to
the
yeah
until
the
new
year
to
to
get
that
together,
and
I
know
there
were.
There
are
other
people
that
have
expressed
interest
in
being
part
of
that
team
as
well.
K
D
Meant
privacy,
though,.
K
H
Regarding
the
regarding
the
checklist
for
these
metrics
reviews,
though
the
the
the
first
thing
we
would
need
for
the
the
edit
would
actually
be
just
a
a
one
to
two
sentence:
one
to
two
sentences
of
text
that
would
point
to
this
document
that
we're
creating
it
would.
It
would
basically
act
as
a
kind
of
a
a
data
disclaimer
right.
G
H
I
thought
we
had.
I
thought
we
had
actually
already
written
that
I
thought
in
one
of
these
meetings.
I
thought
we
had
written
it.
I
think
I
thought
lucas
had
we've
written.
G
H
Things
invited
us
with
like
a
two-line
sentence
that
basically
says
yeah.
He.
H
K
Oh
here
it
is
oh,
I
will
I'll
paste
it
in
it's
on
a
different
computer
than
the
one
I'm
on
zoom
you
can
you
just
put
it
in
that
dock
lucas.
K
B
So
we
do
need
someone
to
take
an
action
item
to
add
these
three
things
to
the
metrics
template
still
right.
G
B
G
G
A
H
D
D
B
B
All
right,
let's
go
to
number
four,
then
much
new
interest
from
new
folks.
If
you
have
not
been
paying
attention
in
slack,
we
have
had
quite
a
few
people
jumping
in
just
to
say,
hi
and
wanting
to
join
and
reach
out.
So
I'm
not
sure
who
put
this
on
here,
but.
D
Whatever
that
connection
might
be
so
I
just
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
be
really
deliberate
about
kind
of
keeping
track.
Who
has
expressed
interest.
You
know
make
reaching
out
again
if,
if
there's
something
that
we
think
they
could
help
with
or
participate
with,
I
just
I
don't
know
just
something
we
it's
just
great.
It
was
really
great.
B
Would
it
be
helpful
if
I
sent
them
the
form
or
because
we
usually
point
people
to
this
meeting
honestly
is
like
usually
the
place,
but
if
you
you
know
again
if
they
can't
attend
the
meeting
they're
kind
of
floating
out
there,
but
on
the
on
the
other
flip
side
of
that,
you
know
it's
hard
to
point
someone
to
something
specific.
If
they
have
no
idea
who
we
are,
what
we
do
or
you
know
like,
we
don't
really
have
like
generic
stuff
for
people
so
usually
like.
B
B
I'm
not
really
sure.
I
think
this
may
be
like
a
part
of
the
bigger
picture
of
improving
the
onboarding
process
of
making,
maybe
making
it
easier
for
them
to
understand
who
we
are
and
feel
connected
earlier
on
than
than
these
meetings.
I
don't
know.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
for
our
platform
is
going
in
and
for
the
getting
started,
we're
trying
to
identify
the
types
of
people
that
come
in
and
what
they
might
possibly
want
to
do,
and
so
we
were
talking.
Of
course
my
funding's
been
cut
in
half,
but
we
were
talking
about
a
choose.
Your
own
adventure
style
thing
where
you
basically
come
in
and
you're
like
hey.
You
know
who
are
you
what's
some
of
the
stuff
that
you
like
to
do
and
then
they're
going?
C
Oh,
if
you
like
to
do
these
things,
then
maybe
here
maybe
there
may
be
over
here.
You
know
things
of
that
nature
to
kind
of
like
pull
it
all
down,
because
so
much
is
going
on
that
it's
really
hard,
sometimes
to
like
for
people
to
figure
out
where
it
is
that
they
actually
want
to
go.
Also
the
open
office
hours
is
good
because
then
people
can
come
in
and
like
chat
around
a
little
bit
and
then
you
can
talk
with
them
and
go
oh
okay!
C
Then
you
probably
want
to
go
over
here
or
you
probably
want
to
go.
Do
that
or
things
of
that
nature
is
another
thing
that
we've
been
doing
so
we've
kind
of
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
the
marketing
personas
style
thing
for
figuring
that
out,
so
that
way
on
the
getting
started
on
the
website
at
least,
we
can
think
about
how
we're
going
to
send
people
off
somewhere.
C
So
that
way,
they
kind
of
know
where
to
go,
because
I
think
there's
certain
people
who
you
know
they
do
want
to
work
on
the
metrics
or
they
do
want
to
work
on,
though,
or
even
sometimes
there's
people
who
just
want
to
like
help
run
meetings,
because
they
really
don't
know
what
to
do
yet
and
they're,
not
very
technical
and
they're
like
oh.
I
can
figure
out
how
to
do
that
for
you,
and
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
on
our
stuff
now
is
personas
for
the
volunteers.
G
I
like
that,
a
lot
I
was
also
thinking.
I
liked
elizabeth's
point
on
metric
reviews
being
a
way,
that's
like
an
easy
way
to
just
start
to
participate
without
feeling
like
you
have
to
do
anything
or
have
to
know
anything.
You
can
just
pick
the
metrics
that
you're
most
interested
in
or
that
you
think
are
most
relevant
to
you
and
just
review
what
we're
working
on,
and
that
gives
folks
a
sense
of
the
output
of
the
project
as
well
as
a
chance
to
be
a
part
of
the
review
process
early
on.
G
But
I
guess
those
are
those
are
not
constant,
so
there's
more
of
a
like
if
they
happen
to
join
right
before
a
review
period,
that's
more
or
less
beneficial.
So
I
think
for
a
general
plan.
I
like
that
persona
approach,
just
because
I
think
there
is
a
bit
of
a
we
just,
don't
know
enough
about
people
and
where
their
interests
and
backgrounds
are
to
direct
them
properly.
In
slack,
I
think
we
need
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
them
and
so
trying
to
find
a
way
to
learn
about
that
in
a
way.
H
So
I
I
like
that
a
lot
too.
I
I
like
the
idea
of
the
that
kind
of
choose
your
own
adventure
format.
H
Matt
matt
cantu
had
created
that
nice
kind
of
getting
started
blog
and
I
was
I've,
been
I've
been
contemplating
taking
that
blog
and
turning
it
into
a
permanent
page
on
the
website
and
after
hearing
you
talk,
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
take
that
blog
and
kind
of
turn
it
into
a
choose.
Your
own
adventure
page
and
use
that
as
our
getting
started,
and
I
wonder
if
there's
there's
any
any
volunteers
to
help
me
with
that.
C
I'd
even
suggested
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
talking
about
on
my
team
was
creating
an
image
where
you
know
you're
like
da
da,
oh
I'm
here
and
then
da
da
da.
You
know,
and
then
people
could
click
on
the
image
and
it
would
sit
there
and
blow
it
up
and
then
it
would
get
all
the
way
down
until
it
like
clicks
and
takes
them
somewhere
kind
of
thing.
C
C
Fluid
of
a
design
and
that
it
will
break
but
kind
of
kind
of
okay
for
some
of
our
default
stuff,
because
you
know
we've
got
the
advisory
group,
so
we've
got
the
subgroups
we've
got.
You
know,
you
know
also
just
even
doing
your
own
project
yourself
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
that's
why
we
were
looking
at
that
kind
of
structure.
F
C
F
Oh
sorry,
go
ahead.
Elizabeth,
no.
F
Yeah
I
wanted
to
catch
us
before
we
wrapped
up
and
share
some
positive
information
about
the
onboarding
stuff,
because
we've
made
great
strides
in
the
chaos
community
about
moving
this
forward.
I
know
I'm
talking
I'm
preaching
to
the
choir
here,
but,
like
I'm,
just
really
happy
with
how
it's
going
and
like
that,
we
found
some
we've
hit
some
bins
already
about
what
people
how
people
want
to
join
the
project
and
then
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
like.
B
We're
out
of
time,
but
I
see
there's
one
more
quick
announcement.
Videos
from
kfcon
are
now
online
on
the
chaos
2.
So
thank
thanking
gayorg
for
that.
I
think,
since
I
think
he
was
the
one.
E
B
That
is
excellent
news
and
we
will
we'll
put
that
on
in
the
newsletter
and
maybe
we'll
maybe
we'll
tweet
about
that
as
well
and
put
it
on
the
mailing
list.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
who
worked
on
that
and
we.