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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call 4/26/22
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A
Hey
everyone:
it
is
tuesday
april
26th
and
you
are
watching
or
presenting
or
participating
in
the
weekly
community
call
for
chaos.
So
we're
really
happy
that
you're
here
I
am
elizabeth.
The
chaos
community
manager
for
those
who
are
new
to
our
group
welcome,
welcome.
Welcome
we're
really
happy
to
see
you
just
to
reiterate.
We
always
try
to
do
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
You
do
not
have
to
have
your
camera
on.
If
you
want
it
off,
that's
totally!
Fine!
If
you
don't
want
to
say
anything,
that's
also
totally
fine.
A
If
you
would
rather
participate
in
the
chat
window.
That
is
100
fine
as
well.
So
we
are
super
chill
here.
Here
are
the
minutes
one
more
time
if
you
need
them
and
if
you
would
like
to
add
your
names
as
attendees,
that
would
be
amazing.
If
you
don't
want
to
do
that,
that's
fine,
too!
You
don't
have
to
it's
all
good
yeah
hope
everybody's
doing
good.
I
see
a
couple.
People
are
outside
I'm
a
little
jealous,
it's
freezing
here
again,
I'm
so
done
with
it.
It's
so
done.
A
A
Okay,
let's
start
with
the
agenda.
So
the
first
thing
on
here
is
the
github
maintainers
month
planning
doc.
Let's
see
what
this
is
about,.
C
A
A
Totally
fine
totally
fine!
I
put
this
on
the
agenda
this
thing
about
the
chaos
con
europe,
because
I
would
like
to
just
remind
everyone.
I
don't
think
we've
gotten
any
cfp
submissions
yet
which
it's
still
pretty
early
granted.
So
it's
totally
fine.
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
that's
a
thing
if
you
would
like
more
information
about
that,
you
can
go
here
to
our
website.
B
I
I
can
say
that
daniel
and
I
have
had
a
few
conversations
about
working
together
with
the
to
do
and
the
inner
source
commons
to
have
a
chaos.
Software
event
of
some
sort
might
be
longer
form
than
just
an
ordinary
session.
I
think
from
from
the
brief
discussions
we've
had
and
I
think
it's
a
potentially
very
exciting
way
of
continuing
to
work
to
develop
our
chaos.
Software
community.
A
B
Be
something
yeah
we're
we're
right
now.
I
think
we're
thinking
it'll
be
an
off-site
thing,
daniel's
communicating
with
the
lf
to
see
what
space
might
be
available,
so
we're
just
gonna.
B
D
B
A
So
here's
where
we
have
more
information
about
rcfp
you
have
until
monday
may
30th
to
get
yours
in,
and
you
will
just
click
this.
If
you
can't
access
google
forms,
for
whatever
reason,
that's
fine,
you
can
just
reach
out
to
me.
There's
my
email
right
there
and
we're
looking
for
a
few
different
topics
and
submission
types.
So
yeah
here
are
your
options
and
then
back
on
the
other
page
are
some
topics
that
we
would
love
to
hear
about.
So
let
us
know
we
want
to
hear
from
you.
A
There
is
a
virtual
option
if
you
all
saw
that,
but
there
is
a
virtual
option.
If
you
can't
make
it
over
to
dublin
in
september,
I'm
still
trying
to
find
my
passport.
It
is
lost
somewhere
in
my
horrible
house.
That's
so
disorganized
right
now!
I
might
have
to
go
like
do
it
in
person
which
I
gotta
interact
with
people.
Oh
yeah,
I
don't
know
we'll
see.
A
A
Yeah,
I
gotta
do
that
soon,
okay,
so
anyway,
so
that's
that!
Does
anybody
have
questions
comments,
feedback
anything
have.
F
Also,
maybe
talk
about
seeking
sponsorship
and,
like
all
folks
kind
of
pitching
in
and
just
making
sure
that's
good
to
go.
A
So
for
those
who
are
new
to
us
when
it's
time
to
plan
chaos
con,
what
we
do
is
we
cut
this
meeting
a
little
short
and
then
we
add
we
take
the
rest
of
the
time
and
just
the
chaos
con
committee
plan
planning
committee
meets
for
like
the
last
20
minutes
of
this
meeting,
so
we'll
probably
cut
this
off
at
half
past
the
hour,
I'm
just
so.
We
can
do
that
and
we
were
talking
about
keynote.
So
so
that's
what
we're
that's,
what
we're
doing,
because.
E
A
So
that's
what's
happening,
that's
what
we're
talking
about.
Okay,
anything
else
on
this
chaos
con
or
kscon
cfp.
Any
of
that
stuff.
C
A
Well,
that
google
form
will
go
into
a
spreadsheet,
so
I
guess
that's
where
they're?
Is
that
what
you
mean,
though,
collected
yeah.
B
A
Yeah
there
I
was
looking
through
the
schedule
last
night,
because
I
also
have
a
talk
there
and
there's
a
few
other
chaos
people
that
do
so.
We
should.
B
I
just
it
occurred
to
me,
as
we
were
discussing
other
oss
n,
a
europe
types
of
events.
A
A
I
see
some
questions
over
here
from
venia.
Can
we
have
a
running
events
widget
on
the
wordpress
site
that
pulls
that
information
in?
That
is
not
a
question
that
I
can
answer.
D
The
answer
to
that
is
yes,
we
could
do
that
if
we,
if
we
know
where
to
pull
it
from.
A
Okay,
so
maybe
there's
a
wordpress.
If
somebody
has
a
desire,
I'm
sure
kevin.
I
don't
know
if
your
bandwidth
is
probably
kind
of
maxed
out
right
now,
but
if
somebody
wants
to
look
into
this,
how
about
it.
D
B
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
yeah
a
plugin
would
perhaps
allow
data
entry
for
logged
in
users,
but
I
I
think
a
page
is
a
good
idea
and
it
would
probably
go
under
participation
or
something.
G
Yeah
and
the
idea
is
to
kind
of
have
perspective
future
events
displayed
alongside
past
event,
content
so
that
you
can
access
that
content.
G
But
that's
like
the
far
off
idea.
The
current
thing
is
just
if
we're
going
to
start
compiling
other
talk
sessions
or
whatever,
where
it's
like
hey.
You
should
come
to
this
thing.
It'd
be
cool
to
have
that,
underneath
the
participation.
B
D
So
the
the
website
is,
the
website
is
built
to
pull
information
from
markdown
pages
right.
Some
write.
E
H
D
Yeah
and
maybe
we
maybe
then,
rather
than
creating
a
new
slack
channel,
maybe
we
utilize
the
chaos
consulate
channel.
A
E
A
A
I
should
know
this
stuff,
though,
so
I'm
just
going
to
make
sure
it
gets
in
the
next
one.
B
I'll
I'll
share
it
with
you,
and
then
you
can
maybe
edit
it
to
pull
out
the
chaos
parts.
Okay,
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
may
be
of
less
interest,
for
example,
than
the
profession,
the
raising
of
the
profile
and
that
role
of
research.
Software
engineering
is
perhaps
not
of
interest
to
the
larger
community,
but
the
health
and
sustainability
of
open
source
scientific
software
probably
is
so
they'll,
be
just
some
parts
that
like
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
another
set
of
eyes
to
chaos.
B
A
C
Yeah,
sorry
yeah
sure
so
for
folks
I
went
out
here
last
week.
We
chatted
about
guitar
maintenance,
so
there's
a
link.
Besides
the
main
side,
I
see
more
info
about
guitar
maintenance
month
and
they're
like
feeling
like
a
call
out,
for
you
know,
organizations
that
want
to
do
presentations
or
events
in
the
month
of
june
and
github
is
going
to
help
promote
them.
So
if
you
check
there's
also
a
schedule,
I
think
someone
put
a
link
to
the
three
events
down
the
schedule
already.
C
So
this
is
like
the
planning
dock
that
we're
using
to
you
know
decide
we.
We
talked
about
doing
a
burnout
and
mental
health
session
last
week,
and
so
I
am
not
worked
on
a
a
description
below
about
this
session
and
yeah
we're
thinking
about
debate
time
and
if
we
want
to
do
a
link
to
register
like
if
you
see
the
first
events
upstream
upstream
is
being
organized
by
tidelift
and
they
kind
of
have
a
link
to
register.
So
we
want
to
decide
if
we
needed
to
register
for
this
session
and
timing.
C
You
know
particular
dates
in
june,
so
everything
happens
in
june,
so
yeah.
So
we
have
at
least
some
things
to
discuss.
A
A
C
I
I
I
Okay,
so
because
for
for
timing,
I
was
thinking
we
could
just
send
out
a
doodle
or
something
like
that.
So
a
lot
of
folks,
so
you
could
see
who's
interested
and
when
they're
available
or
something
like
that,
we
could
do
it
per
week
and
then
or
we
could
do
it
as
a
survey
because
it
might,
I
don't
know
about
time,
zones
and
just
general
time
blocks
for
folks.
C
I
I
also
like
I'd
be
open
to
help
you
think,
through
the
discussion
guide,
as
sort
of
the
kinds
of
questions
that
you
want
to
ask.
I
actually
really
like
the
questions
that
are
already
in
the
metric.
I
thought
the
di
working
group
did
a
great
job
of
outlining
various
different
types
of
questions
that
you
could
get
to,
whether
or
not
someone's
feeling
burned
out.
So
that's
a
good
starting
place,
but
others
might
have
other
ideas
of
sort
of
probative
or
discussion.
I
Triggering
questions
do
if
we
have
ideas
for
that,
should
we
just
put
them
in
the
stock.
A
A
On
slack,
so
there
you
go
all
right
great
job.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
questions
or
final
comments
for
ruth
for
this.
A
All
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
forward.
I
put
this
one
on
here,
just
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
she
code,
africa
that
we
have
two
mentees
that
are
working
on
a
newcomer
slackbot.
So
when
someone
comes
to
chaos
on
slack,
they
happen
to
mention
certain
keywords
or
ask
questions
something:
they'll
get
a
dm
with
some
responses
and
some
information
for
them.
So
hopefully
it
will
be
a
little
smoother
of
an
onboarding
process.
A
They
won't
have
to
wait
for
one
of
us
somebody
to
answer
the
question
and
they're
already
to
the
point
of
having
a
demo
ready
for
us,
so
they're
gonna
do
that
maybe
either
at
the
end
of
this
week
or
sometime
next
week,
we're
just
working
on
a
date
and
kudos
to
matt
cantus
now,
and
also
ruth
for
being
amazing.
Mentors
to
this
team
that
we
have
precious
and
midi
are
awesome,
so
just
want
to
give
everybody
a
quick
update
on
that
anything
to
add
ruth
or
matt.
A
Yeah
they're
doing
really
great
okay,
so,
let's
go
on.
We
have
a
few
minutes
left
mentorship
decision
process.
Now
someone
want
to
talk
about
that.
F
That
was
just
me
so
outreachy
and
google
summer
of
code
deadlines
have
passed
so
at
this
point
we
have
to
make
selections.
So
that's
just
where
we're
at
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know.
B
And
I
would
add,
I
think,
if
anyone's
interest
we
have
two
projects
listed
for
the
outreachy.
We
have,
I
think,
23
applicants
or
something
like
that.
If
there's
anyone,
that's
interested
in
mentoring,
a
project
right
now,
matt
and
elizabeth-
and
I
are
the
only
people
that
are
listed
as
metric
mentors,
I
believe,
which
is
just
an
anomaly
of
the
way
we
started
that
project.
So
if
there's
interest,
let
us
know.
D
What
are
the,
what
are
the
outreach
projects?
Sorry
to
interrupt
so.
B
I
remember
the
one
is
related
to
auger
and
making
the
documentation
more
inclusive
and
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
don't
remember
the
second
one
matt.
Do
you.
B
B
How
do
we
want
to
conduct
the
kevin?
Do
you
want
help
filtering?
Do
you
want
to
make
a
recommendation?
How
do
you
want
to
handle
that
one?
Because
that's
that
was
we
had
more
applications
for
that
project
than
any
other?
Maybe
we
could
have
that
discussion
like
not
here
yeah.
I
just
suggest
that
all
I'm
asking
for
is.
Should
we
have
that
discussion
or
schedule
that
discussion
we
have
until
like
may
4th
to
make
our
choices.
B
B
L
K
L
J
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
because
we're
gonna
end
this
pretty
soon.
I
see
somebody
put
on
here
website
things.
F
A
Okay,
we
will
push
that
to
next
week,
so
we
can
have
a
little
bit
more
of
an
involved
conversation
about
that.
But
if
everybody
want
to
kind
of
wants
to
think
about
between
now
and
then
think
about
how
they
access
the
website,
what
they
use
it
for
what
their
you
know,
how
they
get
to
what
they're?
Looking
for
that
kind
of
thing,
which
of
these
buckets,
do
you
fall
in?
B
C
Which
is
I
put
that
there
so
during
the
office
hours
today,
two
folks
that
are
interested
in
seasonal
vlogs
ask
the
questions,
one
of
which
is
what's
the
deadline
for
you
know
sending,
because
I
think
timeline
from
google
is
16th
of
may
so
here
we
have
me,
we
just
have
me
and
not
like
I
think,
on
the
project
timeline
down
this
we
have
like
may
and
there's
no
dates,
so
they
wanted
to
know
particular
deadline
or,
if
you're,
following
through
with.
B
I
I
think,
as
a
practical
matter,
we
can
tell
people
that
orientation
would
occur
in
like
the
last
week
of
may
or
last
week
to
10
days
of
may.
I
I
think
we
likely
won't
be
prepared
to
do
the
orientation
before
that.
F
F
F
C
A
So
john,
and
do
we
want
to
get
together
and
just
pick
a
date
shawn
you
want
to
do
that.
B
C
Okay,
see
it's
a
bit
detail.
Sorry,
so
there's
as
I
think,
there's
something
that
is
miss.
They
misunderstand
on
the
proposal.
When
elizabeth,
can
you
go
to
that
proposal
again?
C
Yeah,
sorry
yeah,
so
the
pathway
says
we
have
also
found
three
technical
writers
to
work
on
the
project.
So
there's
some
misunderstanding
about.
Okay,
has
the
project
found
technical
writers
already,
so
that
question
was
also
asked
during
the
office
hours.
A
F
B
On
oh
in
in
andrew,
do
you.
F
B
J
A
B
A
Okay,
we
have
one
final
item
on
here
from
anonymous
tiger.
J
And
this
is
me,
I
have
put
this
idea
just
a
quick.
Maybe
we
can
discuss
in
the
next
meeting
too.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
metrics
we
have
released
and
after
release,
we
come
across
different
examples,
practical
examples
like
yesterday
I
was
looking
at
the
slack
ruth
posted
a
burnout
example
that
was
a
classic
example
for
a
burnout
matrix.
So
I
was
thinking
like
having
some
place
where
we
can
point
those
examples
which
are
afterwards
like
when
we
look
a
metric
after
some
time.
J
We
want
to
see
some
practical
examples
which
are
not
documented
in
the
release,
but
we
can
point
out
those
examples
like
a
true
example,
so
just
wanted
to
share
with
the
community
think
of
an
idea
where
we
can
collect
those
examples.
After
the
release,
we
see
those
impractical
life
like
having
those
reference
points
for
future
references.
K
Vietnam,
if
I
understand
well,
I
think,
like
the
point
you
are
trying
to
raise
for
kills
to
come
up
with
with
practical
use
cases
for
the
metrics
that
they
produce.
J
No
not
to
find
out
the
use
case
like,
for
example,
there's
a
metric
burnout.
I
see
a
practical
example
being
discussed
somewhere.
I
want
to
link
that
reference
somewhere
in
the
matrix
site
so
that,
if
somebody
wants
to
read
that
metric,
they
can
practically
see
the
examples.
I'm
not
saying
that
should
be
a
part
of
release.
There
should
be
some
forum.
E
J
K
And
yes,
if
you
look,
there
are
several
things
that
have
different
factors
that
we
don't
really
want
to
come
up
with
a
kind
of
template
just
up
front
to
say
this
will
cause
burn
out,
because
it's
it's
too
technical
to
go
into
that,
but
I
really
agree
that
they
should
give
some
kind
of
example,
cases
yeah,
because
things
like
take,
for
example,
burnout.
If
you
want
to
measure
it
in
an
organization.
K
Most
people
are
volunteers.
In
some
of
these
open
source,
some
are
paid.
You
don't
know
the
other
activities
that
people
have
been
doing
the
accumulated
stress
over
time
to
come
and
point
out
the
finger
that
okay,
because
I've
been
working
on
this
for
10
hours,
and
these
are
some
of
the
kind
of
cycle
somatic
stress
that
can
really
cause
problem-
that
we
don't
really
want
also
to
go
for
causal
effect.
A
A
We'll
just
bring
this
up
again
and
we'll
chat
a
little
bit
more
sorry
that
we're
kind
of
tight
on
time
today.
I
think
that's
important
to
talk
about
that
kind
of
feedback
cycle.
I
think
that
you're
talking
about
people
implementing
these
in
the
real
world,
okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
shut
this
meeting
down
and
leave
it
for
the
kscom
planning
committee
for
the
last
10
minutes.
If
that's
all
right,
thank
you.
Everybody
for
coming
today
and
yeah
we'll
see
y'all
later
next
time.
Next
week
same
time.