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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Hangout: April 17, 2018
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CHAOSS Weekly Hangout- April 17, 2018
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Not
sure
I
know,
because
what
they
one
of
the
interesting
aspects
of
the
work
that
economists
do
is
that
they
want
to
observe
natural
experiments
when
they
see
an
outcome.
So
it's
not
like
cause
that
we
said
you
can't
quite
make
sure
that
you
can
go
and
make
sure
that
what
M
is
that
yes
admission?
But
my
purpose
is
to
determine
whether
there's
a
difference
between
before
and
after
I
say.
That's
so
in
this
case
will
be
like.
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We're
talking,
for
example,
today
about
how
do
you
make
sure
that
a
project
has
impact,
and
in
some
cases
there
you
can
say
ones
number
of
downloads,
but
in
their
projects
that
have
a
very
small,
Beach
and
I?
Don't
have
the
same
kind
of
customer
base
and
another
larger
or
defense
right,
and
you
have
the
products
that
are
invisible
to
their
to
the
final
user
in
terms
of
libraries.
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Yeah-
let's
assume
that
you
create
a
very
specialized
library,
this
extremely
good
at
what
it
does.
For
example,
in
a
library
like
IG
live,
so
the
generic
library
will
have
way
more
citations
than
the
other
one.
Let
me
put
in
a
different
context
is:
is
the
same
as
in
papers
if
you
work
in
an
ER
that
has
a
lot
of
people
interest.
If
you
can
like
issues
you
might
be
commissioned,
are
you
work
in
an
area
that
nobody
cares,
that
you
might
never
get
psyched
excited.
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All
right,
cool
I
had
a
few
kind
of
items.
On
my
my
my
thing,
we
have
the
open
source,
North
America,
which
are
summit
North,
America
right
and
that
closes
the
in
12
days
is
when
the
call
for
paper
closes
correct.
We
have
five
different
things
that
we
can
do
just
a
regular
presentation,
a
panel
discussion,
birds
of
a
feather
which
we've
done
in
the
past,
a
tutorial
or
a
lab,
so
the
the
presentations
themselves
are
55
0
minutes.
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Kind
of
an
obvious
type
of
submission
is
either
around
diversity
and
inclusion
again
and
look
what
we
did
at
the
leadership
commit
or
around
the
stuff
you're
doing
Shawn.
With
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
starting
to
get
that
one,
everyone
at
work
are
gone
and
so
I
think
either
either
one
can
kind
of
follow
a
structure
of
again.
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Both
and
it
I
wonder
if
those
like,
in
both
cases
like
in
the
case
of
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
we've
understood
for
the
longest
in
terms
of
diversity.
Inclusion,
I,
think
those
are
the
place,
that's
a
place
where
we're
gonna
have
to
be
creative
same
with
value.
So
those
are.
Those
are
two
places
where
we
could
bring
people
in
for
almost
a
tutorial
and
treat
the
tutorial
more
like
a
hackathon
where
we're
not
necessarily
showing
them
the
way,
but
we're
showing
them
are
our
voix
of
approaches.
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Talk
but
it
it
that
was
new
to
people,
so
nobody
had
been
thinking
about
it
and
all
likelihood
in
advance
of
the
meeting,
and
now
that
we've
been
around
for
your
and
I'm
just
hypothesizing
I,
don't
know,
but
maybe
people
there.
Maybe
there's
a
group
of
people
who
are
sort
of
peripherally
aware
of
what
we're
doing
and
might
like
to
know
more
about
it.
Yeah.
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There
are
different
formats,
you
know,
but
but
usually
what
people
spec
is
I'm
coming
here
to
learn
about
the
technology.
From
our
point
of
view,
maybe
that
could
be
how
to
get
the
matrix
or
how
to
interpret
the
matrix
or
something
like
that
I
mean
can
be
semi
theoretical
in
this.
From
the
point
of
view
of,
if
we
come
to
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
for
instance,
it
could
be
like
this
is
the
way
you
can
interpret
this
matrix
for
your
project
or
stuff,
like
that.
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Our
talks
are
usually
mostly
like
some
people,
speaking
of
the
format
of
a
panel,
but
it's
mostly
not
forgetting
feedback
from
the
audience
that
were
talking
to
the
audience.
Of
course,
you
can
have
question
and
answers
that
my
impression
is
that
what
people
expected
I'm
going
to
sit
down
here
and
I'm
going
to
learn
about
something
in
15
minutes.
Well,
maybe
three
minutes
and
then
a
discussion
or
something
like
that,
and
the
mostly
the
most
interactive
format
is
that
birds
of.
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Those
are
exactly
what
you
said,
so,
let's
stop
for
5-10
minutes
and
then
let's
keep
with
the
audience
that
is
cast.
Let's
produce
something
together,
so
maybe
we
can
do
all
of
those
I
mean
we
can
submit
the
proposals
and
then
we
can
accept
them
or
not.
So
we
don't
know
so
and
I
think
in
any
in
any
case
that
there
is
room
for
something
related
to.
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Of
course,
you
versus
the
ending
classroom,
but
they
don't
know
I've
Danny
is
really
working
in
that
with
with
the
rest
of
difficulty
working
group,
but
maybe
our
scene,
Matt
and
and
and
myself
could
try
to
focus
on
growth,
maturity
decline
and
committed
to
something
give
you
know
having
the
talk
is
also
motivation,
for
him
is
something
to
talk
about.
Yes,.
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Wonder
about
and
I
guess
in
my
mind,
I
had
framed
it
as
a
lab,
because
I
think
I
think
chase
who
says
I
don't
know.
But
what
hey
sue
said
kind
of
resonated
with
me
that
people
probably
come
to
a
tutorial
just
get
something
laid
out
for
them
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
have
things
that
are
in
such
a
state
as
they
would
lay
them
out.
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Least
four
hours,
but
then
we
report
some
kind
of
agenda.
I
remember
when
we
had
some
presentation
about
chaos
and
the
matrix
and
the
software,
and
then
we
had
specific
session
about
the
tools.
The
software
I
mean
so
we
G
its
data
and
remote
lab
and
inspector
I
mean
so
when
the
people
sometimes
show
some
hands-on
and
then
the
very
last
slot
course
focused
on
diversity
and
inclusion,
yeah,
so
I
would
say
at
least
four
hours,
but
we
we
were
not
at
the
very
beginning
in
the
schedule.
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Hopefully,
during
the
next
month
we
are
going
to
go
through
all
of
them
and
we
can
have
a
more
comprehensive
schema
or
follow
them
together
and
and
then
we
can
apply
the
software
to
a
couple
of
projects
and
use
them
as
just
cases
and
explain
how
they
can
be
interpreted
in
that
context
or
something
like
that,
and
it
can
be
three
or
four
offence.
I
mean
share
in
the
States,
so
that
people
don't
get
to
get
too
bored
of
listening
to
the
same
people.
You
know
yeah.
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And
we
can
also
discuss
with
Kate
and
Ray
if
you
want
to
have
something
like
a
like
lab,
maybe
for
people
more
interested
in
this
or
even
a
tutorial.
If
you
want,
because
that
the
same
thing
that
will
propose
us
a
talk,
you
could
be
extended
to
a
tutorial,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
material
for
general
nav.
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Then
we
would
put
together
a
presentation,
5-0
50,
minute
presentation,
which
again
a
small
overview
about
chaos
and
then
really
honing
in
on
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
demonstrating
the
technologies
of
Remora
lab
and
harder
to
show
how
they
represent
the
existing
sets
of
metrics
and
then
possibly
a
use
case.
No.
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My
point
of
view,
so
maybe
maybe
we
are
going
to
send
to
a
presentation
based
on
PIM,
our
lab
and
and
the
new
things
that
we
have,
and
that
could
be
something
related
to
I
mean,
could
include
some
of
you
if
you
want
to
get
because
our
main
idea
was
to
show
or
how
cream
or
LAN
have
changed
during
the
last
year.
From
our
technological
point
of
view,
what
staff
can
be
done
with
it?
Okay,.
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Totally
fine,
featuring
Chrome
or
lab
just
showing
auger
is
another
way
that
things
are
implemented
and
but
I
think
you
know
by
that
time.
I
expect
the
google
Summer
of
Code
will
it
helped
us
have
auger
connecting
to
things
like
percival
and
maybe
even
an
evolution
of
percival
along
the
lines
of
some
of
the
thoughts
I
shared
with
you
over
the
weekend
and
so
yeah
I
think.
Maybe
you
and
I
can
work
out
the
details
on
that
part
of
it
as
the
song.
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Well,
I
mean
we
should
be
talking
about
about
cows,
but
the
focus
should
be
this
one
in
words
over
data.
Of
course,
we
can
try
to
do
some
marketing
for
cows
as
well,
but
the
main
area
from
a
point
of
view
would
be
look.
This
Linux,
Foundation
workgroup
is
producing
this
software,
and
so
what
could
be
interesting
to
you?
So
it
could
be
very
technological
and
just
just
explaining,
if
you
happen
to
have
some
free
that
you
want
analyze.
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How
to
use
them
for
another
thing,
understand
plain
idea,
but
the
main
difference
with
the
other
talk
could
be
that
the
other
talk
would
be
mainly
focused
on
growth
and
maturity
and
decline
as
a
model
for
estimating
the
health.
While
this
store
could
be
in
general
about
solver
for
inhalation
solver,
which
is
commitment,
I
mean
the
focus
is
very
different.
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If
we
set
it
up
where
we
have
three
four
people
sitting
at
the
front
as
a
panel
to
be
actually
submit
a
panel,
then
it's
much
easier
to
fill
the
50
minutes
of
different
perspective
and
keep
it
engaged.
And
then
we
have
different
experts
talking
about
different
aspects
about
growth,
maturity
decline,
someone
talking
about
the
challenges,
someone
talking
about
the
software
needed
someone
talking
about
the
interaction
between
workgroup
and
committees,
and
everyone
brings
in
their
own
perspective,
and
it
just
keeps
it
more
lively
and
engaged
I.
Think
I.
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H
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E
In
for
me,
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
submit
in
in
one
of
these
talks
or
the
birds
of
feathers,
is
this
idea
of
how
the
workgroups
are
bringing
together
the
metrics
and
the
saw
we're
and
growth
maturity
and
decline
is
just
it's
a
point
of
a
focus.
That's
doing
that
or
diversity
and
inclusion
as
a
point
of
focus.
That
is
doing
that
so
I
do
want
to
keep
one
of
these
talks
really
honed
in
on
one
of
the
categories.
Just
so,
we
can
demonstrate
that
relationship,
yeah,.
G
G
How
can
we
work
about
metrics
from
the
cows
point
of
view,
including
other
field
or
later,
and
the
talk
could
be
specifically
how
we
intend
to
produce
metrics
of
we're
in
in
in
cows
and
use
the
growth
maturity
decline
as
an
example?
Hopefully
for
now
so
then
we
have
something
to
show
and
the
talk
could
be
on
cows,
mostly
on
how
we
structure
the
work
and
they
and
the
work
group
itself,
and
then
the
results.
The
results
could
be
the
metrics
and
some
software,
so
something
to
show
right.
So.
A
What
about
it?
I
like
that
idea,
because
that
that
uses
growth,
maturity
and
decline
as
a
use
case
to
illustrate
our
software
I.
Think
and
I,
don't
know
if
Daniels
interested
in
this,
but
it
would
seem
perhaps
that
the
Mozilla
group
and
the
folks
involved
in
diversity.
Inclusion
may
want
to
have
a
separate
session
that
focuses
on
those
metrics
that
and
the
metric
you
know.
So
this
would
be
a
talk
about
the
working
group
focused
on
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
with
sort
of
a
lean
towards
the
software
and.
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And
so
on,
what
if
we
try
to
have
I,
don't
know?
Let's
imagine
we
want
to
help
all
of
the
community
managers
in
the
Linux
Foundation.
So
can
we
have
an
open
call
for
all
of
the
community
manager,
or
so
they
come
to
the
same
room?
Then
we
try
to
have
all
these
discussions
together
and
not
just
perhaps
for
50
minutes
talk
or
parallel
but
kind
of
a
tutorial.
So
it's
gonna
take
longer.
D
Then
we
can
focus
on
each
of
the
key
area,
so
we
help
them
in
the
sense
that
first
we
let
them
know
how
these
are
work.
So
we
can
have
introduction
to
the
several
topics
we
have,
but
then
we
basically
sit
down
with
them
and
try
to
understand
their
needs.
So
we
we
basically
bring
new
requirements.
Yeah
you're,
a
matrix
right,
yeah.
A
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E
D
D
Let's
make
happen,
of
course,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
are
I
meant
by
the
way,
I
have
to
say
that
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
still
not
sure.
If
I'm
going
to
Vancouver,
ok,
we
will
see,
but
in
any
case
we
are
to
map
your
own
hisui
manrique
and
some
other
people
from
from
ka
or
so.
If
we
count
the
number
of
people
that
PR
we
are
perhaps
I
know
six
seven
eight
people,
so
we
can
help
definitely
others,
even
perhaps
not
focusing
on
Community
Managers
but
open
source
offices.
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D
So
the
final
I
mean
I
would
love
to
have
at
the
very
end
of
all
of
this
kind
of
a
list
of
requirements
list
of
people
interested
in
this
topic
and
that
we
can
contact
later
in
somehow
in
in
Ko.
So
we
can
bring
more
people
to
the
discussion
and
produce
more
useful
things
for
them
and
for
the
community,
but.
G
D
G
G
C
My
feeling
is
that
it
would
be
better
if
some
people
will
be
doing
interviews
or
people
studied
by
finding
the
people
and
talking
to
them
directly
and
expect
them
to
come
to
a
place.
So
I
think
that
it
would
be
very
valuable
that
before
you
submit
it,
you
really
define
what
the
goals
of
the
presentations
or
the
tutorials
are
and
because
I
suspect
that,
as
Daniel
have
said,
it
might
be
that
you
have
a
tutorial
and
then
nobody
of
the
people
who
you
expect
a
shows
up.
C
So,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
that
the
biggest
value
of
the
presentations
is
just
to
defuse
what
we
have
I
think
that
in
that
respect,
you
have
already
done
that
several
times.
So
I
think
that
what
you
have
to
enumerate
first
is
the
goals
and
then
try
to
to
build
your
presentation
based
on
that.
But
I.
Don't
have
high
hopes
that
the
presentation
to
get
people
attracted
and
they
the
panels,
I,
think
that
the
panels
are
the
least
ended.
Unless
is
high
disability
people
the
side,
the
ones
that
people
get
to
avoid.
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F
C
E
E
I
think,
with
all
this
conversation,
I'll
still
we'll
put
together
the
potential
presentation
around
the
growth,
maturity
and
decline.
Category
now
I'll
lay
this
out.
I,
don't
I
won't
spell
it
all
out
again
right
here,
but
it'll.
The
document
will
speak.
The
birds
of
a
feather
have
been
really
nice
over
the
last
several
conferences,
so
we
get
great
attendance
and
those
I'll
put
one
of
those
forward
together
or
pull
one
of
those
forward,
and
then
it
sounded
like
Sean.
E
A
F
E
E
C
C
H
D
So
what
they
are
doing
this
year
is
instead
of
having
an
a
day
a
full
day
after
the
welder
summit.
What
they
are
doing
is
to
have
this
through
the
same
it's.
Basically,
there
is
a
track
for
diversity
for
the
diversity
empowerment
summit.
It's
gonna
be
led
by
a
meteor
meteor
from
Comcast
and
Nicole
Kidman
from
Intel,
so
both
of
them
will
be
working
there.
D
It's
something
that
I
wanted
to
say
that
the
typically
during
the
last
well
couple
of
years
well,
even
before
so
Nicole
and
me,
Nietzsche
and
others-
we've
been
sending
some
talks
about
diversity
and
inclusion,
either
presenting
results
or
and
so
on.
So
typically
Nicole
seems
to
feel
really
comfortable
with
panels.
So
around
specific
topic
on
on
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
then
there
are
some
people
discussing
about
the
topic
in
in
the
panel
so
see
Seder
the
moderator
or
active
participant
in
the
panel.
So
this
is
one
of
the
usual
ways
to
proceed.
D
So
what
information
is
presented
and
so
on?
So
this
could
be
another
way
of
presenting
the
results
we
have
in
chaos
and
opening
discussion,
and
the
other
way
is
basically
to
present
results
in
the
sense
of
having
a
talk
talking
about
chaos
and
specifically
the
working
group
for
diversity
and
inclusion,
as
I
still
don't
know.
If
I'm
going
there
and
I'm
having
a
meeting
with
Nicole
in
in
the
next
15
minutes,
I
guess
I
will
let
her
know
Matt
or
do
björk
or
some
someone
else
is
more
than
welcome
to
join.
D
H
D
Definitely
the
only
thing
I'm
afraid
of
is
that
well
I
have
attended
some
diversity.
Inclusion
talks
in
openness
tagging
in
the
lineage
con
will
be
open
source
Amit's
previous
editions.
If
those
talks
are
in
between
the
usual
talks,
people
tend
to
go
to
other
to
other
slots.
Instead
of
this
discussion,
having
the
diversity,
empowerment's
I
mean
summit
during
the
very
last
day
got
a
really
great
attraction.
I
mean
I.
Remember
in
private
was
around
50
or
60.
E
D
H
E
E
A
We've
got
people
but
I
think
the
next
step
is
hey,
soos
and
I
and
I
think
there's
some
other
mentors
probably
need
to
talk
about
organizing
the
specific
tasks
for
the
summer.
I
think
it
starts
like
on
Monday,
where
there
are
going
to
be
expecting
some
orientation
to
our
project,
so
hey
Zeus
is
probably
ready
for
that.
But
I
need
to
take
some
time
to
get
ready
for
that.
How.
E
A
E
E
C
So
I
haven't
been
a
mentor
in
the
past.
There's
this
diet.
So
the
big
question
is
somebody,
so
this
creates
so
depending
on
who
receives
it,
creates
taxing
and
issues.
Yeah
and
Google
only
pays
one
piped
one
entity
right
across
all
the
different
individuals
Alec
for
the
entire.
So
if
we
have
two
students.
C
All
the
money
goes
into
that,
at
least
that
was
the
case
when
I
was
a
mentor,
so
that
person
didn't
take
care
of
distributing
it
and
then
accounting
for
that.
So
it
might
have
implications
with
respect
to
u
equal.
So
that's
why
some
projects
we
also
have
a
non-for-profit
and-
and
there
are
some
non-for-profit-
have
taken
as
an
umbrella
for
some
projects
to
be
able
to
handle
this.
The
software
Conservancy
is
the
best
example
and
perhaps
actually
taste.
Innovation
can
think
that
money,
yeah.
A
C
E
Were
just
we
were
just
looking
at
the
dollars
and
I
think
I
had
I.
Think
I
have
some
clarity
here.
So
when
I
was
submitting
the
chaos
proposal,
they
asked
for
error,
they
would
send
the
mentor
stipend,
which
is
$500
per
student
developer,
yeah
and
so
that
I
set
that
up
here
at
the
University
of
Nebraska
Omaha.
E
E
Intention
was
that
we
were
gonna
use
those
dollars
just
to
fund
chaos
related
projects,
then
there's
a
$2,200
mentor,
Summit
stipend,
which
would
be
obviously
$2,200
for
the
mentor
to
go
to
Google
headquarters
for
their
summit,
which
is
in
whatever
September
or
something
like
that,
and
so
that's
so
Sean
or
hey
Suz.
If
you
wanted
to
go
to
is.
C
E
E
C
A
A
Like
I'm
I'm,
yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
know
who
the
other
mentors
are
besides:
hey,
Susan,
high,
but
I
think
cases
and
they're
probably
gonna.
Do
the
bulk
of
the
mentoring,
yeah
and
now
to
find
if
he
sees,
is
able
to
go
to
the
mentor
summit.
I
defer
to
him
since
he's
got
farther
to
go
and
it's
harder
for
him
to
get
to
North
America
than
for
me
for
the
stipend,
and
then
we
just
figure
out
if
it's
worth
it
for
me
to
go
and
I
pay
my
own
way.
A
C
A
C
I
think
that
it's
interesting
to
go
I
I,
think
that
once
you
go
once
you
don't
want
to
go
back
because
Google
runs
very
independently
of
Google,
so
you
get
into
an
area
where
you
cannot
go
into
rural
at
all
and
and
then
you
talk
to
the
students
and
the
people
malechie
g-shock
and
nobody
else.
In
fact,
there
is
pretty
a
big
wall
between
key
sock
and
Google,
so
Google
itself
as
an
organization,
but
also
track
who
they
mentors
on
the
student
side.
So
in
spite
of
the
privacy
problems,
it's
interesting
all.