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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Meeting Feb 7 2023
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A
Thanks
thanks
man
yep,
it
is
February
7th
I
almost
said
December,
it's
not
December,
it's
February
already,
seventh
and
it's
Tuesday
you're
here
at
the
chaos
Community
weekly
hangout
call
so
hi
to
everyone
looks
like
I,
have
all
familiar
faces
and
names
here
so
just
in
case
we'll
just
throw
out
here
that
all
chaos
meetings,
just
a
reminder,
are
under
the
code
of
conduct
for
chaos.
So
keep
that
in
mind
and
as
well
as
always,
you
don't
need
to
have
your
camera
on.
A
You
can
certainly
keep
that
off
and
just
chat
with
us
in
the
chat
that
is
next
to
your
screen
or
at
the
bottom.
There's
a
little
chat
thing
can
click
on
that,
if
it's
not
open
already
and
this
meeting
that
we
have
right
now
is
for
just
a
weekly
update
of
what's
going
on
in
chaos,
and
we
take
this
time
to
kind
of
hang
out
with
each
other
and
discuss
anything.
We
need
to
do
about
the
community.
A
A
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E
A
A
A
Oh
I'm
waiting,
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
waiting
with
beta
breath
to
see
oh
he's
in
the
choir.
Yes,
nice
I
was
in
the
choir
in
elementary
school.
Yes
see
yes,
we'll
we'll
go
karaoke
in
together.
You
know,
if
you
and
me
we
got,
it
will
knock
their
socks
off
great
okay,
let's
jump
in
to
the
agenda
first
off.
Anybody
who
is
at
chaoscon
want
to
give
a
quick
summary.
I
know.
Several
of
you
were
we'd
love
to
hear
how
it
went.
C
B
C
And
just
ping
Elizabeth
I
think
on
where
to
put
it,
and
so
that
was
great
and
then
we
did
working
sessions
and
I
have
to
connect
with
Georg
just
we
were
just
basically
kind
of
asking
the
questions
ultimately
like
what
should
we
be
working
on,
and
there
were
some
really
great
discussion
with
with
reports
back
and
so
Georg
was
taking
notes.
During
that
time
we
are
I
think
our
ability
to
capture
the
notes
was
limited.
We
made
Google
Docs,
but
I.
Don't
think
people
ended,
we,
it
was
hard
to
get
people
to
them.
C
You
know
what
I
mean
and
so
like
next
time
we
might
want
to
think
about.
If
we
do
this
approach
like
assigning
a
scribe
or
something
in
each
of
the
each
of
the
groups,
so
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
good
but
they're.
Also
really
quick
sessions
I
mean
I,
think
they
were
like
16
minutes
total.
You.
C
Mean
by
the
time
you
do
two
minutes
two
minutes
two
minutes,
so
that
was
great.
There
was
a
really
great
conversation
and
everybody
got
t-shirts
and
everybody
got
stickers
and
I
thought
it
was
really
nice.
It's
just
a
great
group
of
people
in
our
setting
like
kudos
to
to
The
Beaumont,
Hotel
or
Bedford
Hotel,
wherever
we
were
adult
Bedford
I
think
it
was
great,
so
Gary
was
was
really
right
on
with
kind
of
coordinating
that
so
I
think
we
will
certainly
use
that
hotel
again.
E
F
F
D
F
D
D
C
F
F
C
C
C
D
F
B
B
A
A
C
D
C
Double
the
whole
thing
now
I
do
I
do
think
that
we
had
talked
for
you
know
we
are
going
to
plan
on
doing
chaoscon
with
open
source,
Summit
North
America
in
Vancouver
and
I.
Don't
remember
if
we
had
that
talk
here
or
if
it
mostly
just
occurred
at
chaos
con,
but
I
think
the
idea
is
mostly
just
invited
speakers
and
invited
like
Keynotes.
So
again
not
a
call
for
papers.
E
C
F
D
F
D
C
B
A
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on.
The
next
point
on
our
agenda
is
a
little
update
on
mentorships.
We've
had
quite
a
few
folks
asking
Google
summer
of
code.
Chaos
is
not
going
to
participate
this
year
we
are
going
to
take
a
beer
off
and
possibly
apply
again
next
year.
We'll
have
to
see
how
things
go.
We
are
also
taking
a
break
from
outreachy.
A
We
are
not
participating
in
outreaching
this
year.
Either
we
are
planning
on
participating
in
she
code
Africa.
We
have
to
still
sort
out
what
the
details
of
that
are.
Ruth
is
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
them,
and
Google's
season
of
docs
is
a.
Maybe
we
are
still
considering
that
and
I
think
we
have
a
little
bit
more
time
for
that.
One
I
think
the
applications
are
due
in
March,
sometimes
so
they.
A
B
C
E
B
D
A
Okay,
all
right
we
will
move
on.
This
is
a
reminder
to
sign
up
for
discourse,
not
Discord
discourse,
which
is
our
Forum
that
we
opened
last
week
here
it
is,
you
can
look
at
it.
Actually.
It'll
probably
show
me
logged
in
yeah
and
I
get
some
actual
extra
stuff,
so
yeah,
but
here's
what
it
looks
like
and
you
can
see.
We
have
quite
a
few
conversations
already
going
on
so
yeah
if
you
have
not
signed
up
for
that.
D
A
You
know
more
informal
conversations
and
discourse
I
think
is
going
to
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
have
more
of
a
record
of
a
conversation
and
like
decisions
that
are
made
or
things
that
we
want
to
reference
later,
it's
much
easier
to
find
stuff
in
discourse
than
it
is
to
find
like
a
buried
conversation
from
last
year.
That
is
in
a
like
a
reply
thread.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
that's
kind
of
how
we're
envisioning
it
will
be
used.
A
Of
course,
this
is
a
grand
experiment
so
and
community
communities
kind
of
often
adopt
things
the
way
they're
going
to
adopt
them,
regardless
of
what
you
want
them
to
do.
So
if
it
doesn't
work
out,
it
doesn't
work
out,
but
we're
going
to
give
it
a
shot.
So
yeah
take
a
look
and
join.
You
can
also
I
think
read
the
conversations,
even
if
you
don't
sign
up,
but
you
will
have
to
have
an
account
there.
A
A
B
C
B
A
Yes
and
I
can
tell
you
so
the
the
main
goal
of
discourse
was
also
to
replace
our
mailing
list,
which
was
super
old
and
hard
to
navigate
and
hard
to
find
things.
So
you
can,
if
you
can
use
discourse
as
a
mailing
list.
You
just
need
to
go
into
your
account
and
subscribe
to
the
things
that
are
interesting
to
you,
just
as
you
would
like.
We
had
separate
mailing
lists
for,
like
the
Dei
working.
A
B
A
E
A
C
C
A
E
I
see
it
now,
we
have
a
very
limited
number
sorry,
so
yeah
no
problem
I
see
a
padlock
next
to
it,
and
you
know
it
does
indicate
it's
been
archived
and
whatnot,
but
okay,
the
posts
that
are
there
are
there,
so
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
that's
still.
Okay,
because
we
have
the
reference
information
visible.
It
looks
like
to
normal
people
like
me,
but
you
can't
continue
the
discussion,
which
is
really
the
biggest
thing.
Okay,
yeah.
C
So
maybe
that
would
be
the
approach,
then,
that,
like
you
and
I
just
kind
of
watch
things,
because
some
of
these
threads
seem
like
they'll
just
be
like
a
short
period
of
time
like
some
are
clearly
longer
like
the
newsletter
is
kind
of
an
ongoing
thread,
but
others
kind
of
like
chaoscon
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
then
that
is
a
short-term
kind
of
thing
if
it
gets
buried.
That's
fine.
D
C
D
A
A
A
A
Move
on
so
this
was
a
point
that
came
from
the
Dei
working
group.
We
had
someone
visit
us
in
the
badging
meeting
and
also
the
Dei
working
group
working
on
this
public
health
pledge,
and
this
is
about
public
health
and
safety
in
regards
to
specifically
open
source
events.
I
believe
so.
This
is
something
that
we
had
not
really
thought
about
in
the
Dei
working
group,
so
it
was
amazing,
really
awesome
feedback
and
engagement
participation.
A
A
C
C
A
And
that,
and
that
was
actually
kind
of
what
brought
Josh
to
the
group-
was
that
they
noticed
that
there
was
an
event
and
they
didn't.
They
didn't
mention
the
event
specifically,
but
this
event
got
a
gold
badge
and
then
had
nothing
about
any
public
health
and
safety
things,
and
so
that
was
a
little
bit
disconcerting
for
them,
because
you
know
here:
they've
gotten
this
gold
badge,
obviously
they're
just
getting
the
badge
based
on
what
we
asked
them.
So
if
we
don't
ask
them
any
questions
about
this,
it's
not
the
event's
fault.
A
It's
not
our
fault
like
it's,
just
something
that
we
hadn't
asked
about.
So
the
idea
was
also
that
they
would
have
to
get
some
level
of
something
at
least
efforts
made
and
then
again
this
is
like
the
details,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
and
also
not
to
put
a
huge
burden
on
our
reviewers
too,
to
have
to
like
go
check
stuff
but
like
they
would
have
to
have
some
efforts
made
on
these
in
order
to
get
a
gold
badge
like
that
would
be
actually
a
requirement
that.
A
A
That
was
the
intention.
This
is
super
new,
just
like
literally
just
just
launched
last
week,
so
there
have
not
been
any
events
that
have
gone
through
it
yet,
but
as
soon
as
that
happens,
I
believe
that
that
is
the
intention
to
post
those
publicly
is.
We
would
need
a
way
to
verify.
Yeah
also,
that
folks
are
and
ask
I
would
even
ask
the
event
organizer
like
link
to
your
badge
or
link
to
your
where
we
can
verify
like
just
so.
We
can
click
on
that
and
go
look
right.
C
C
A
And
and
I
think
I
I
see
your
hand,
one
sec.
I
think
Josh's
point
was
to
like
not
to
you
know,
shame
any
organizers
or
anything
like
that,
but
just
to
have
them
have
the
information
publicly
available
like
that
and
that's
kind
of
what
we
ask
for
our
our
events.
That
apply
is
like
we
know
you
can't
do
everything
like
we
totally
get
that
summary.
Some
events
are
well
resourced.
A
Some
are
not,
but
just
letting
people
know
so
that
they
can
make
the
decision
about
whether
or
not
to
go
I
think
is
really
the
key
there
so
like
this
is
this
is
kind
of
what
it's
it's
you
know
push
like
kind
of
nudging.
Folks
towards
is
like,
even
if
you
don't
want
to
require
masks
and
things
like.
That's
fine
just
have
that
information
publicly
available
on
your
website,
so
that
folks
can
can
see
it.
Okay,
go
ahead.
D
I
have
two
thoughts.
One
is
this:
since
it's
a
different
batch
from
ours,
it's
similar
to
what
we're
doing
with
the
OSS
ossf
the
open,
ssf
best
practices
badge
where
we
just
say:
do
you
have
a
badge
or
not
so
like
like
what
Matt
was
saying,
we
don't
replicate
this.
We
just
asked:
have
you
applied
or
shows,
and
then
the
second
thought
is
I
see
on
their
page
that
the
open,
infra
Summit
Vancouver
is
an
institutional
signatory.
D
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D
F
D
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B
A
And
it
may
be
that
they
signed
the
pledge
but
have
not
gone
through
the
application
process.
So
I
think
those
are
two
separate
things
like
you
can
sign
the
pledge
anybody
can
sign,
but
then
here's
where
you
would
go
through
the
badge
so
that
maybe
they
haven't
done
the
badge
thing
yet
too.
So
just
throwing
that
out
there.
A
A
A
B
C
So
the
I'll
kind
of
give
my
thoughts
here.
So
we
have
a
new
working
group,
which
is
the
ospo
working
group
and
a
lot
of
the
members
of
that
hospital
working
group
are
incredibly
interested
in
how
metrics
and
metrics
models
and
software
can
help
support
the
decision
process
inside
of
organizations.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
that
discussion
is
about
how
to
kind
of
bring
existing
resources
together
to
to
drive
those
decisions,
not
necessarily
the
creation
of
those
resources.
C
But
again,
like
a
lot
like,
like
the
first
I,
think,
a
lot
of
those
folks
that
would
attend,
like
an
Hospital
plus
plus
working
group,
may
not
really
understand
or
care
to
understand
the
logistics
of
of
making
the
actual
metrics
in
chaos
and
getting
those
published,
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
big
step.
So
the
idea
would
be
is
that
we
would
have
obviously
members
like
myself
or
you,
Elizabeth
or
not
or
gay
or
whoever
it
might
be.
C
That's
pretty
familiar
with
the
workings
of
chaos
like
how
that
gets
done,
and
we
could
bring
back
what
we're
hearing
from
these
more
functional
working
groups
as
to
metrics
that
might
be
missing
or
metrics
that
might
be
deployed.
So
I
think
if
it's
probably
pretty
easy
for
all
of
us
to
create
a
metric.
At
this
point
like
if
we
just
sat
down
and
did
it,
we
could
at
least
create
a
kind
of
a
framework
for
a
metric
pretty
fast.
C
It
may
not
be
perfect,
but
we
could
at
least
get
the
narrative
down
as
to
what's
in
the
metric
pretty
quickly
from
there
I
think
we
could
bring
that
developed
metric
to
a
working
group
if
needed
or
to
you
know,
say
to
the
risk
working
group.
If
we
thought
it
was
going
to
fit
there
or
the
evolution
working
group,
if
we
thought
it
was
going
to
fit
there,
then
we
can
continue
to
get
feedback,
at
least
in
that
working
group,
but
the
the
primary
development
really
occurs
within
this
metrics
Development
Group.
A
I'll
also
just
jump
in
and
say
we.
We
have
some
metrics
that
the
metrics
models
working
group
is
kind
of
waiting
on
and
dependent
on
as
well.
So
you
know
it
would
also
kind
of
help
support
that
group
and
if
you
look
at
our
spreadsheet,
like
there's
a
ton
of
ideas,
we
have
that
we
just
haven't
had
a
chance
to
work
on
I
mean
we
have
so
many
considerings
like
in
every
group.
A
A
A
C
A
C
No
exactly,
and
maybe
we
could
do
a
lot
of
it
async
but
I
know
that.
We've
because
we've
with
the
metrics
model
working
group,
there
were
metrics
that
needed
to
be
developed
and
we
have
placed
issues
in
respective
working
groups
like
hey.
We
need
this
metric
developed
and
it
it
doesn't
really
happen
in
a
timely
fashion.
B
C
E
C
B
C
D
C
My
concern
is
that
as
we
develop
these
these
kind
of
functional
areas,
which
seem
to
make
a
lot
of
sense
like
the
ospo
working
group
or
the
aspo
plus
plus
working
group
or
an
event,
organizing
working
group
like
they're,
not
my
guess-
is
they're
not
terribly
interested
in
learning
the
processes
of
publishing
a
metric
in
the
chaos
project.
Right
you
know,
and
so
we
would
help
in
that.
That's
what
this
group
would
be
there
to
help
for
yeah.