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CHAOSS.Community.October.22.2019
A
Hi
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
weekly
meeting
I
have
a
few
things
that
I
want
to
take
care
of,
or
just
at
least
mention
today,
I've
put
the
minutes
in
the
chat.
B
A
C
D
E
A
The
first
bid
that
that
I
actually
put
the
minutes
in
here
ahead
of
time
time
to
type
them
all
I'm
doing
the
meeting
just
good.
So
the
first
thing
is
I'm
slowly
rolling
out
the
new
template
across
groups
so,
as
I
appear
in
your
working
groups
like
I
think
we
just
did
the
ones
with
risk
Sean
or
some
of
them
anyway.
I'll
have
evolution.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
every
every
day.
Every
week,
I'll
slowly
roll
them
out,
so
we
don't
have
to
anyway
chipping
away
exactly
so.
A
We
don't
have
to
do
them
all
at
once.
Like
I
said
in
the
working
groups,
it's
been
remarkably
easy,
which
is
good.
I
was
a
little
concerned
that
a
new
template
would
be
challenging,
but
it
has
so
that
good
thing.
This
is
the
next
item
on
here
under
metrics
deployment.
If
you
click
on
that
link,
it'll,
take
you
to
the
tracking
spreadsheet,
go
to
the
metrics,
and
so
I
encourage
everybody
in
a
working
group
or
everybody
who
is
attending
a
working
group.
Meeting,
I
Daniel
I'll
be
sure.
A
It
should
be
what
you
need,
so,
if
you're
attending
a
working
group
meeting,
can
you
point
folks
to
this
spreadsheet
this?
We
did
this
for
the
first
metrics
release
and
it
proved
to
be
super
helpful
just
in
terms
of
organizing
thoughts
so
tabs
across
the
bottom
for
the
different
working
groups,
all
good
on
that.
This
meeting
is,
like
my
house
keeping
meeting.
So
the
next
item,
any
questions
on
that
alright.
A
A
So
the
next
item
here
is:
we've
identified
two
projects
that
are
very
open
to
the
idea
that
we
would
put
together
reports
for
them,
and
so
one
is
Jenkins
X
and
the
other
is
the
Zephyr
project
and
we
have
to
just
really
nice
people
who
are
willing
to
serve
as
points
of
contact
to
help
us
through
kind
of
the
development
and
presentation
of
the
chaos
metrics
as
part
of
that
release
for
their
communities.
So
if
you
click
on
either
of
those
two
links
under
here,
I
am
creating
really
bad
template
reports.
A
For
Jenkins
X
and
for
Zack
alright,
and
the
reason
that
I'm
creating
these
really
bad
template
reports
is
because
then
I'm
gonna
show
them
to
folks
at
Linux
Foundation,
and
hopefully
they
will
think
they're
so
ugly.
We
will
offer
to
make
me
prettier
ones,
I'm,
really
just
trying
to
get
the
idea
out
in
front
of.
A
B
C
B
A
Actually,
that's
my
next
item
on
here.
So
another
way
to
kind
of
do
the
DNI
stuff
I
have
some
thoughts
on
this
as
well,
so
so
really
what
I'm
trying
to
do
with
these?
These
template
is
just
kind
of
establish
who
the
communities
are
who
were
working
with.
You
can
see
the
four
different
areas:
I
didn't
these
aren't
all
of
the
metrics
that
were
released
as
part
of
version
one,
but
these
are
the
ones
I
think
might
be
enough.
A
D
A
D
A
G
H
D
Mean
you
know
obviously
like
we're
one
of
them
right.
I
mean
we
work
with.
You
know,
folks
at
Pitzer,
GI,
and
then
you
know
so
obviously
we're
using
a
lot
of
chaos
base
metrics,
so
you'll
be
interesting
to
see
like
if
there
are
other
I
mean
folks
at
better
GI
and
maybe
Sean
like
augered,
like
you
can
help
like
you
can
get
a
like
a
list
of
communities
that
are
using
chaos
face
metrics
I,
think
that
might
be
like
an
interesting
exercise
to
do
as
well.
A
A
D
H
D
F
D
I,
don't
think
it's
meant
to
be,
like
you
know
we're
using
all
of
like
metrics,
that
are
that
I
defined
in
MKS
I
mean
there
are
some
like
I
mean
Daniel.
You
pointed
out,
I
mean
there's
some
like
you
know.
When
we
work
with
you
guys,
there
are
some
stuff
that
we
have
an
upstream
to
chaos.
Yet,
right
like
that,
cumulative
backlog
is
like
one
of
them.
You
know
I'm.
D
Does
a
discussion
I've
been
having
with
Alberto
but
but
I
mean
I
I
feel
comfortable,
saying
like
we
benefit
from
the
work
that
chaos
community
is
doing,
not
all
of
it.
It's
been
defined
like
we
use
something
that
might
not
be
defining
chaos,
but
I
think
that's
completely
fine
right
I
mean
that
might
be
the
case
with
some
of
the
other
communities
that
you
work
with
mm-hmm.
I
A
Part
of
what
I'm
trying
to
do
this
with
these
reports
and
Daniel
this
may
or
may
not
use
blows,
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
communities
out
there
that
just
don't
have
any
insight
as
to
what
they're
doing,
and
so
this
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
supplement
to
what
auger
and
worm
or
lab
can
provide.
Ie
me
mean
what
this.
A
A
If
they
want
to
get
much
deeper,
then
they
can
talk
about
and
I
appreciate
the
approach
you
talked
about,
Daniel
with
use
cases
and
building
the
different
panels
that
address
those
use
cases
but
I
think
that
might
be
a
conversation
that
would
occur
after
something
like
this,
but
this
is
meant
just
to
get
a
get.
A
visual
see
you
later
John
to
get
a
visual
of
how
we
understand,
say,
reviews
or
issues.
Quite
simply,.
I
I
I'm
gonna
check,
if
that
makes
sense,
so
first,
if
that
makes
sense
from
a
kind
of
a
high
level
point
of
view
when
talking
about
code
review
processes
in
Cotulla
Carrie,
whatever
people
are
using
so
from,
let's
say
the
expertise
in
ramallah,
then,
once
this
is
ready
to
go,
then
we
ask
others
using
chaos
technology
about
what
they
think
about
this
I
know
it
is
something
different.
You.
I
F
A
Standardization
on
the
way
people
talk
about
things,
I
think
that
would
be
a
huge
benefit
in
personally,
but
I
think
it's
also
so
yes,
I,
agree
with
that
and
then
I
think
it's
also.
The
these
small
reports
would
really
just
be
a
way
to
wait:
simple,
Health
metrics
for
projects
that
don't
otherwise
do
this
I
mean
the.
What
are
Andrew
Moore
lab
cover
or
in
terms
of
the
landscape
of
open-source
projects
is
not
everything,
that's
true.
So
if.
J
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
a
it's
an
end
goal
perhaps,
but
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
try
to
improve
any
transparency
on
community
health
through
fairly
I
would
consider
to
be
low.
Overhead
reports
like
this
I
think
that's
a
win
for
chaos
and
then,
if
organizations
want
to
dig
a
lot
deeper,
the
chaos
project
really
can't
do
a
whole
lot
in
that
regard.
I
can't
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
that.
I
Well,
you
know
what
have
have
you
have
you
seen
the
brilliant
journey
by
CN
CF
people
for
my
period
it
was
really
cool,
it's
kind
of
a
previous
journey
for
some
CNCs
privates
and
they
have
or
m'boy
it's
six
pages
document
sounds
like
easy
to
have
it's
more.
We
need
to
have
some
more
in-depth
analysis
of
what
the
project
about,
but
I
can
look
for
the
any
non.
I
A
A
Like
that,
that's
all
I'm
talking
about
all
that
this
is
which.
K
A
A
H
A
A
So
the
next
thing
is
about
a
couple
of
us
are
in
that
meeting
is
a
way
to
take
the
work,
that's
being
done
in
the
DNI
working
group
and
be
able
to
express
it
in
meaningful
ways
again
same
issue
so
that
the
metrics
don't
live
in
isolation
on
the
webpage,
but
they're
actually
deployed
again
in
meaningful
ways
that
help
people,
and
so
it
brought
together
or
brought
forward
DNI
badging
proposal,
and
we
talked
through
it
a
little
bit.
So
these
are
the
notes
again
cross
referenced
from
the
DNI
meeting.
A
How
the
review
process
would
look
and
then
how
badges
would
actually
be
issued
kind
of
thing,
I
think
if
we
have
the
workflow
set
out
it'll
give
us
something
to
talk
about
just
in
terms
of
what
this
might
look
like
and
feedback
that
people
have.
There
were
a
few
expressed
concerns
with
this.
Just
in
terms
of
deployment
I
know,
Mike
might
one
of
mine
was
trying
to
find
people
to
actually
assist
in
the
process
of
awarding
badges
mm-hmm.
D
So
like
on
I
mean
I
think
this
is
a
interesting
idea.
I
mean
I'm,
saying
interesting
in
a
good
way,
not
in
a
bad
way.
So
just
the
context,
but
my
concern
is:
let's
say
we
do
this.
For,
like
events
right
I
mean
just
pick
an
event,
they
do
like
a
multiple
times
a
year.
It
could
be
like
OpenStack
summit
or
CN
CF,
so
I
mean.
Would
this
be
like
wouldn't
like
like
a
goals?
Change
like
from
like
one
event
to
the
next,
like
I
mean
I'm,
making
this
up.
D
They
want
to
have
20%
of
attendees
from
from
underrepresented
community,
for
example
like
they'll
be
goal
for
like
one
year,
maybe
the
next
one
they
may
want
to
up
it
to
like
25.
So
would
wouldn't
that,
like
a
standard,
be
somewhat
subjective
depending
on
the
community
and
events
or
I
mean
I'm
making
this
up
like
event
a
they
might
want
to
their
numbers
been
so
bad.
They
want
to
start
with,
like
10
percent,
but
another
one
that's
been
around
for
a
while.
D
They
want
to
start
with,
like
a
twenty
percent
as
a
goal,
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
that's.
Sort
of
the
right
way
to
look
at
it,
but
so
like.
How
would
we,
like
you
know,
give
out
a
badge
if,
if
the
goals
are
different
for
different
events
in
different
communities,
like
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
already
discussed,
or
that.
D
A
To
time
it
yeah,
so
my
initial
reaction
is
the
and
we,
the
badge
wouldn't
be
assigned
to
a
percentage
of
that,
so
the
badge
would
be
assigned
to
do
you
have
an
event,
it's
really
just
the
metric.
So
do
you
have
an
event
code
of
conduct?
Are
you
the
issue?
Inner
city
tickets?
You
know,
okay
in
a
meaningful
way.
Are
you
providing
a
family-friendly
environment
in
a
way,
that's
its
it's
beneficial
to
your
project
and
then
I
think
the
thing
that
we
had
talked
about
dawn
or
annual.
A
A
Good
all
right,
so
that
was
that
was
a
nice
conversation.
Anybody
else
have
comments
on
this
and
then
I
okay.
So
then
the
next
thing
I
kept
thinking,
I
just
kept
on
thinking
and
I,
was
started.
Thinking
about
software,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
in
the
software,
or
at
least
have
talked
about
is
say
on
the
the
dashboards
that
are
being
shown
in
grimore
lab
or
the
interface
that
Hager
is
using
that,
like
on
a
metric
by
metric
basis,
we
would
report.
You
know
this
is
a
chaos
metric.
A
A
So
the
you
know,
as
a
new
metric
comes
out
or
a
new
metric
is
being
deployed
by
Chrome
or
lab
and
we're
trying
to
get
it
into
chaos,
and
just
all
this
directionality
gets
to
be
kind
of
weird
and
hard
to
manage
that.
Maybe
you
see
this
text
that
I
put
down
below,
we
could
just
propose
something
and
I
wrote
this
in.
A
Like
a
minute
that
we
could
propose
something
like
this
on
the
grimore
lab
and
auger,
it
just
says
something
to
the
effect
of
grimore
on
metrics
available
and
the
software
are
in
part
developed
in
conjunction
with
the
chaos
project,
because,
like
Ray,
as
you
mentioned,
certain
metrics
using
aren't
necessarily
upstream
to
the
cat
project.
So
you
know
there's
always
this
kind
of
this
great
area
as
to
where
metrics
are
whether
or
not
they're
in
the
chaos
project
or
not,
and
then
for
more
information
go
see
the
list
of
metrics.
A
G
I
A
Whatever
is
the
most
meaningful
place
to
have
the
information,
and
then
we
don't
have
to
track
one
by
one.
It's
just.
We
do
have
a
statement
that
says
these
two
things
are
connected
and
it's
not
perfectly
connected,
because
I
know
that
grimore
live
and
auger
have
more
than
what's
define
metrics
wise
yeah.
G
H
So
but
I
think
it's
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
It
gets
us
a
little
bit
more
connected.
Just
like
we
have
in
the
metrics
saying
hey,
you
can
find
it
in
augur.
Inform
all
are
just
the
reverse
here.
Yeah
I
am
so
fond
of
the
idea
of
making
a
one-to-one
connection,
but
I
understand
that
challenging
doing
it
and.
D
H
A
A
Reminded
me
of
that
so,
but
we,
but
but
in
the
chaos
project
we
actually
own
both
of
the
web
pages
or
Owen.
I
guess
you
know,
all
of
these
web
pages
are
under
kind
of
the
same.
The
same
project
so
might
be
a
little
bit
easier,
all
right,
so
maybe
from
a
from
a
auger
and
grimmer
lab
perspective.
Good.
Maybe
you
think
about
where
to
put
something
like
that,
make
a
statement.
A
I
K
A
A
C
Mean
we
met
yesterday
with
with
risk,
and
we
talked
mostly
about
adding
test
coverage
and
safety
critical
system
metrics,
there's
a
few
new
standards
that
are
observed
that
are
referenced
in
the
notes
from
that
meeting
that
we're
looking
into
and
we
updated,
the
set
of
set
of
metrics
were
looking
to
put
out
for
the
next
release.
Okay,.
A
B
A
I
talk
about
this
to
the
potential
then
for
these
to
be
filters,
you
know,
so
you
would
have
if
you're
thinking
about
issues
or
reviews,
you
can
ask
questions
of
who.
What
when
and
where
on
these
particular
things
which
actually
to
me
vents
slots
common
in
a
lot
more
easily,
which
is
what
I
think
was
the
premise
of
comment
original.
So
it
makes
a
ton
of
sense
to
me.
F
K
C
H
A
So
I'll
give
you
an
update
on
that
any
augur.
I
had
some
auger
risk
thing.
I
just
wanted
to
I,
know
auger
right
now
on
part
of
the
risk
when
they
do
license
declarations
trying
to
get
on
your
behalf.
But
when
you
do
licenses
B,
we
talked
with
Kate
yesterday
about
linking
out
to
be
s.
Pdx
definitions
of
the
licenses,
along
with
the
TLDR
descriptions
as
much
as
available
ldillard,
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
license
coverage
yeah.
C
C
F
C
Last
week
we've
had
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work,
just
sort
of
finishing
up
some
of
the
front
end
feedback
that
we
got
from
a
few
of
the
auger
meetings
and
also
installing
getting
our
docker
container
fish
and
their
stuff
and
getting
the
sample
data
installed
by
default.
Just
real
basic
things
to
make
on
or
easier
a
year
to
get
set
up.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
so
then
to
the
GCI
thing
yeah,
and
then
we
want
to
get
to
the
cask
on,
but
to
the
GC
I
we
right
now
there
is
a
meeting
going
on
so
New
York
we're
gonna,
be
submitting
GCI
under
the
Linux
Foundation.
So
remember
the
old
way
that
we
did
this
anyway.
I
did
this
with
this
PDX
for
the
linux
foundation
submits
and
then
the
different
projects
have
smaller
tasks
inside
of
there
and
so
right
now,
there's
a
group
of
people
that
are
kind
of
meeting
to
define
what
those
tasks
are
I'm.
A
Just
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know,
GCI
is
the
an
event
that
occurs
or
I
think
well
springtime,
or
you
know
winter
into
spring
time,
and
the
age
range,
I
think,
is
really
young,
I,
think
so
up
to
seventeen
years
old,
but
as
young
as
years
old,
eight
years
old,
it's
quite
young
so
for
people
to
give
people
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
open-source
projects
with
really
low
a
little
bar.
So
try
to
encourage
that
engagement,
so
I
think
at
the
moment,
Shaun.
There
is
something
there
is.
A
That
that's
okay,
but
yeah,
there's
a
link
somewhere.
Okay,
either
is
it's
just
a
met
in
the
meeting
minutes
right
here,
and
so
just
as
I'll
get
them
posted
to
the
wiki
page.
I
just
need
them
in
a
format,
but
Venu
should
be
taking
care
of
the
formatting
of
the
tasks
next
yep,
so
they
just
need
to
be.
They
need
to
have
a
few
things
to
find
like
what
category
it
falls
into,
but
Carter
should
be
getting
enough
to
speak
beyond
that.
Yeah
there
it's
a
beginner
task
and
what
the
deliverables
are.
A
F
E
E
G
A
A
K
C
A
I
would
like
to
so.
There
was
a
request.
Oh
offset
one
night
of
hotel
from
Deb
is
a
keynote
speaker
and
I
would
like
to
put
it
out
there.
As
was
pointed
out,
I
was
talking
to
Don
the
you
know
the
software
freedom
Conservancy
is
a
non-profit,
so
they
are
not
a
large
for-profit
organization,
and
so
it's
just
something
to
think
about.
Maybe
we
can
discuss
this
now.
We
could
discuss
it
later,
but
I
can
stop.
A
Recording
people
can
say
what
they
want,
but
personally
I
feel
that
I
have
zero
problem
using
community
bridge
funds
to
help
offset
one
hotel
night
for
them.
She's
gonna
be
there.
It
falls
down
anyway,
so
she's
covering
all
other
travel
costs,
but
and
we
can
bring
this
forward.
If
people
wanted
to
have
comments
and
then
we
can
bring
this
forward.
A
Any
other
company
I'm
really
excited
to.
She
had
asked
for
ideas
as
well
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
mentioned
was
possibly
the
pitfalls
of
metrics
and
what
had
come
up
and
how
they
might
be
used
in
ways
that
we
don't
suspect
they
would
be
used
and
just
things
we
need
to
keep
our
eyes
out.
F
A
Seems
like
this
is
getting
straightened
out.
Okay,
so
I
think
I've
been
kind
of
following
the
thread
with
Alicia,
it's
alright
and
and
the
Linux
Foundation
as
to
how
she
can
get
reimbursed
and
anyway,
I
think
is
I.
It
sounded
like
the
last
email
it
is
getting
looked
at
again.
It's
just
a
logistical
thing
for
people
on
this
call
like
moving
dollars
is
not
the
easiest
thing
all
the
time.
Okay,.
H
J
Actually
so
I've
got
an
edit
that
I'm
that
I'm
working
on
currently
Don
and
Gehrig
of
both
reviewed
it
I'm
waiting
now
until
the
forms
are
done
and
when
the
forearms
are
done.
I'll
I'll
have
the
registration
links
in
and
we'll
everything
I'll
go
alive.
H
E
H
A
H
A
I
J
A
H
H
Something
I'm
supposed
to
look
at
hats,
yeah,
one
of
things
that
I
was
looking
at
is
how
we
can
have
Kaos
branded
flag
without
having
to
have
a
inventory
and
managing
it
all.
So
there
are
several
services
that
allow
us
to
put
up
a
Kaos
shop
basically
and
they
manage
all
of
the
manufacturing
and
shipping
and
all
of
it,
so
one
of
them
I
just
post
one
in
the
chat,
but
there
are
others
where
the
idea
is
that
we
upload
our
Kaos
logo.
H
We
define
some
of
some
hoodies
or
t-shirts
or
hats
or
whatever
we
want,
and
there
there's
the
option
to
request
a
price
that
is
a
buck
manufacturing
price
or
above
their
price,
and
that
would
create
funds
for
Kaos
or
we
just
ask
them
their
price,
and
then
we
don't
get
money
from
it.
But
anyone
who
wants
chaos
swag
can
order
it
through
this
online
shop.
And
if
you
want
something
for
a
conference,
then
you
can
also
go
through
this
order
as
we
need
it.
That's
an
idea
that
I
just
wanted
to.
C
A
D
I
mean
I
mean
a
gilt
lab.
We
transition
back
to
print
faction
like
we
work
with
them
for
a
while,
and
we
weren't
happy
with
them.
We
went
with
somebody
else,
I
forget
the
name
of
it
and
there
was
just
horrendous,
and
then
we
went
back
to
like
production,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
expensive
they
are.
I,
don't
know
the
cost
of
them
like
managing
art,
I
think
they
have
a
warehouse
in
Colorado
somewhere.
It's
my
understanding.
A
F
H
H
H
A
All
right
next
week
is
everybody
gonna,
be
in
one
source,
some
of
Europe
you're,
not
going
here.
Okay,
I'm.