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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Hangout: May 15, 2018
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CHAOSS Weekly Meeting, May 15th 2018
B
E
C
A
D
C
I
mean
this
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
chaos
con
in
February
that
we
did
earlier
in
the
year.
I
mean
there
is
I,
mean
there's
certainly
value
in
I,
guess
more
in
spirits.
People
having
workshop
but
I'm
I
guess
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
if
it's
just
like
the
people
that
are
that
are
already
in
the
community,
it's
it's
somewhat
limiting
and
it's
it's.
It
feels
like
it's
closed
right.
I
mean
I.
F
E
Center
with
respect
to
the
structure,
I
propose
to
have
a
structure
similar
to
that
in
that
in
Brussels,
for
the
foot,
a
Europe
and
even
and
I
thought
it
was
about
accepted
by
everyone.
I
heard
your
review
denial
that
we
need
some
time
for
talking
about
kashkin
but
sorry
about
cow
and
where
we
are
headed
and
so
on
pet.
E
My
my
impression
is
that,
right
now
chaos
is
not
a
closed
book.
There
is
an
open
group
with
free,
it's
a
flexible
barriers
or
something
like
that.
So
I
mean
some
people
are
in,
but
they
are
not
really
contributing.
Some
people
are
contributed,
but
if
you
ask
them
very
likely,
they
they
don't
consider
a
part
of
the
community.
So
my
personal
idea
for
this
was
trying
to
include
everybody
who
is
willing
to
do
something
in
this
area.
E
That
doesn't
mean
that
maybe
we
also
need
a
specific
meeting
for
deciding
were
the
people
who
are,
let's
say
more
committed
to
couch
I
have
time
to
do
this
case.
Where
are
we
headed?
What
we
want
to
do,
and
so
on,
because
the
the
real
thing
is
that
one
year
past-
and
maybe
the
original
set
up-
needs
to
be
not
change
adapt
whatever.
E
So
it's
really
your
idea
that
we
need
some
some
time
together,
not
for
let's
say
outreach
bad
for
talking
about
what
we
want
to
do,
but
I
don't
see
a
cycling
how
to
do
this
in
the
context
of
the
other
thing,
because
I
think
the
other
thing.
We
also
need
it,
because
we
need
more
and
more
people
come
in
and
so
that
we
are
a
real
community,
not
just
a
bunch
of
people
who
happen
to
be
working
in
similar
things.
I.
D
How
do
we
verify
that
they're
that
they
are
doing
the
purpose
that
they
are
doing?
How
do
we
fit
this
within
their
current
situations?
Environments,
so
I
research,
the
services
that
we
provide.
I,
think
that
we
need
those
discussions
and
those
discussions
are
really
not
about
the
code
for
papers.
What.
G
E
The
nail
I
think
that
what
you
are
talking
about
it
fits
perfectly
in
the
sense
that
the
call
is
for
contributions
not
only
papers.
In
fact,
papers
are
not
expected,
it
is
more
like
presentations,
there
are
tutorials
and
I
think
they
cannot
discuss
in
that
they
are
proposing
fits
perfectly.
We
can
either
schedule
it
in
the
time
that
we
have
for
the
cows
can
either
as
a
presentation
or
just
as
a
general
discussion
at
some
point
during
the
in
the
morning
or
the
afternoon.
F
E
In
addition
to
that,
maybe
we
need
some
more
time.
I,
but
I
mean
this
kind
of
discussions.
My
impression
is
that
they
fit
perfectly.
We
had
somehow
in
this
direction
discussing
in
Brussels
very
short,
maybe
we
can
allocate
more
time
for
it,
but
my
problem
with
those
discussions
are:
they
are
fine.
We
talk
a
lot
and
then
somebody
needs
to
implement
what
we
talk
and
the
people
talking
are
not
necessarily
the
same
people
implementing
thing.
E
F
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
regarding
the
structure
of
the
day
and
and
following
on
Hayes's
point
Daniel
that
you
want
to
put
in
a
call
for
participation,
submission
to
specifically
hone
in
on
I.
Don't
know
a
category
that
you
want
to
work
on
or
metrics,
then
we
can
put
that
on
the
schedule
and
have
a
working
session
and
everyone
at
the
conference
can
participate.
C
Yeah
I
agree,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
like
I
mean
I
think
that
session
definitely
makes
sense.
Like
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it
I
think
it
would
fit
in
naturally
with
what
we
sort
of
laid
out
in
terms
of
like
topics
and
and
and
yeah
I
did
to
answer
your
other
question.
Daniel
the
CFP
has
been
open
since
last
week.
I
believe
Eric
Eric,
okay
in.
D
No,
no
I
think
that
when
we
discussed
it
originally,
when
we
started
talking
about
meaning
it
was
to
meet
all
together,
who
are
usually
the
cause
to
talk
about
all
of
these
things
in
a
place
where
we
can
have
an
agenda.
A
plan
for
the
future
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
together.
I
think
that
we
need
to
talk
to
each
other
in
the
same
place,
I
mean
and
I
mean
we
need
the
bonding
Venera.
G
D
E
No,
no,
no,
the
nails!
First
of
all
it
let's
try
to
if
we
can
accumulate
everyone,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
what
you
are
describing
was
my
idea
for
the
golden
bull
meeting
along
say
with
with
Excel.
But
finally,
we
didn't
have
because
it
seemed
that
nobody
came.
Nobody
wanted
to
came
remember
that
we
were
talking
about
maybe
doing
it
in
Europe,
because
it
was
difficult
for
Georgia
to
move
people,
children
to
work,
to
talk
about
this
over
and
so
on,
and
some
of
the
people
would
come
into
it.
E
She
seemed
like
a
good
chance
of
meeting
together
and,
finally,
we
couldn't
find
enough
interest
there,
but
I'm
fine
in
trying
to
do
that
in
Vancouver
two-term
extent.
In
fact,
it
could
be
the
day
after
the
cows
come
for
instance.
If
a
number
of
people
want
to
be
around
it's
only
a
matter
of
finding
a
room
for
I,
don't
know
some
hours
so
that
shouldn't
be
a
problem
and
I'm
going
to
spend
there
and
most
of
the
week.
E
E
D
B
D
B
E
D
No,
no
I,
don't
think
that
it's
a
meaning
of
one
hour
or
half
an
hour.
I
think
that
is
the
way
I
envision
is
like.
We
see
together
and
decide
what
we
want
to
do.
We
break,
apart
into
smaller
groups,
to
try
to
create
some
ideas
and
come
back
and
discuss
them.
That
was
my
original
view.
It
was
always
mentioned
that
I
saw
it
more
as
a
typical
south
workshop,
where
we
create
the.
D
D
G
E
D
A
And
you
know:
I've
presented
it
as
a
larger
kind
of
gathering,
but
not
as
large
as
I
think
it
might
get
now
so
I'm
working
on
getting
additional
space.
Okay,
I'm
better
got
a
pretty
high
degree
of
confidence.
It's
gonna
work
out
good
we're
in
this
between
semester,
summer
academic
cycle
thing
right
now.
So
all
my
responses
are
slower.
A
E
A
E
A
C
I
mean
because
yeah
I
need
to
talk
to
like,
like
groups
like
CN
CF,
because
they
express
some
interest
in
the
past.
I
mean
just
enough
to
cover
like
if
we
would,
in
beverages
an
example
like
Jungian
snacks,
but
it
wouldn't
be
a
ton
of
money,
but
we,
you
know
we
can
definitely
handle
like
direct
billing.
If
need
be.
Yeah
and.
A
I
guess
what
are
those
things
I
don't
want
to
stay
after
good
I,
don't
want
to
go
out
and
solicit
sponsors
and
then
create
confusion
in
the
marketplace
about
sponsoring
the
Linux
Foundation
working
group.
Finish:
yeah
total
working
groups
approached
Intel
that
could
get
confusing
for
Ella
I
think
you
should
keep.
C
B
G
B
C
B
D
D
B
E
B
C
E
E
G
C
C
C
F
Of
things
that
the
Linux
Foundation
open-source
summit,
North
America
website
has
is
co-located
events
and
I
looked
at
the
at
the
forum.
What
I'm
not
sure
about
this
is
this
form
for
requesting
such
a
space
as
we're
talking
about
ray,
or
is
this
to
get
chaos
con,
which
is
located
in
a
different
location
listed
on
the
website,
and
so
people
can
find
it
well
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
was
I
need
to
talk
to
the
events
team
as
well.
I
mean
like
even
getting
a
room.
I'll
go
straight
with
the
events
team,
so
we
don't
have
to
fill
out
a
form
so
I'll
kind
of
short-circuited
and
and
yeah,
and
also
in
terms
of
like
advertising.
If
I
could
certainly
ask
if
they
can
sort
of
co
advertise
other
events
that
are
nearby
and
yeah.
Let
me
make
sure
we're
getting
to
do
that
next.
Couple
of
weeks.
G
A
E
A
A
A
C
E
F
A
G
E
A
A
E
F
E
In
the
other
case,
it's
like
we
have
in
the
second
regular
meeting
and
basically
he
is
working
with
some
little
issues
that
we
prepared
for
him
to
work
in
and
tomorrow
we
should
be
starting
with
the
real
thing.
So
right
now
it
was
like
analyzing
how
to
do
the
changes
and
stuff
like
that
and
right
now.
My
idea
is
that
we
start
with
the
same
matrix
that
we
are
working
with
then
I
seen
Josie
starting
to
implement
them
in
monastic,
ecology,.
B
A
E
G
G
E
A
B
E
C
E
B
D
In
my
experience,
try
to
be
rigorous
in
the
midterm
evaluation
and
all
of
his
peers.
They
think
I've
worked
with
three
and
they
field.
Try
to
some
of
them
will
try
to
claim
that
they
have
too
much
work
and
they
will
catch
up
and-
and
it's
less
likely
to
happen
in
the
very
last
one
because
remember
they
get
paid
after
the
second
evaluation.
So,
if
you're
regulating
the
fake
good
one,
then
it's
much
better
than
even
it's
lacking
the
indian
death.
Okay.
C
G
B
F
B
So
remember
this:
it
doesn't
fundamentally
change
any
of
the
categories.
It's
just
structuring
them
slightly
differently,
so
that
we
have
top-level
categories
which
is
like
risk
or
value,
or
growth,
maturity
and
decline,
or
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
then
actionable
metrics
kind
of
tied
to
questions
that
those
metrics
answer.
So
we've
been
pretty
attentive
to
remove
thing
like
timescales,
you
know
kind
of
different
ways
that
you
could
filter
the
data
because
we
think
that
can
just
show
up
in
the
different
implementations.
B
We
have
those
other
two
it
was
this
was
we
did
this
for
diversity
and
inclusion
and
growth,
maturity
and
decline
right
earlier,
so
I
mean
those
are.
Those
are
cleared
out,
we're
just
kind
of
rounding
out
the
other
two
categories.
So
please
feel
free
to
take
a
look
and
add
comment.
So
that's
what's
happening
on
the
metric
side
of
things.
E
Especially
in
the
more
lab
you
know,
the
issue
introduces-
and
this
is
hopefully
going
to
be
some
new
staff
to
in
the
next
few
weeks,
mainly
the
web
interface
for
dealing
with
identities,
employer
just
becoming
mature
it
into
the
into
the
community
containers
during
the
next
few
weeks.
But
but
right
now
is
working
progress
and
well.
E
E
F
E
E
E
B
D
D
E
Think
that,
at
this
for
from
the
European
point
of
view
at
some
point,
we
should
be
doing
something
in
this
respect
because
explaining
what
we
do
and
how
it
doesn't
interfere
with
the
basic.
Why,
with
this
on
of
people
and
so
on,
it's
it's
becoming
an
important
model
in
Europe,
at
least
and
and
yeah
in
the
end,
where
we're
dealing
with
data
that
can
be
used
for
profiling,
for
instance,
and
and
that's
a
problem
from
that
point
of
view.
E
So
maybe
we
need
to
have
some
ethical
lines
for
stuff,
like
that,
maybe
base
it
on
us
analysis
on
what
universities
are
already
doing,
because
most
of
the
stuff
is
research,
but
it's
not
only
research.
It's
also
sharing
information
with
the
community
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it's
a
bit
more
on
videos
than
that.
A
Her
Derek's,
Derek
and
I've
been
working.
Our
students
head
exams
last
week
and
they're
kind
of
on
a
little
bit
of
a
break
this
week,
but
Derek
and
I've
been
working
on
basically
making
it
easier
to
deploy
auger
for
a
first-timer
and
making
me
a
readme
file
more
complete,
not
that
it
wasn't
complete
before,
but
we're
trying
to
make
it
super
super
easy
for
a
new
person
to
download
bit
install
and
start
playing
with
with
order.
So
I
think
we've
come
a
long
way.
We
released
a
pretty
substantial
develop.
D
B
B
Right
actually
that
trigger.
Thank
you,
hey
sirs,
that
reminded
me
what
I
it
was
on
the
working
group.
So
we
do
have
two
two
working
groups
that
are
meeting
on
a
regular
basis
right
now,
and
so
there
is
the
diversity
and
inclusion
in
Group
E.
Or
do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
So
no,
your
I.
B
B
She
has
been
heavily
involved
in
the
diversity
and
inclusion
as
well
because
of
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
with
Nicole
and
Intel
in
the
past,
so
I
know
that's
going
along
real
well
and
then
we
have
a
second
work
group.
That's
now,
as
hey
Susan
pointed
out
meeting
and
every
week
two
weeks,
something
along
there's.
B
A
B
I
would
encourage
the
working
groups
to
send
out
reminders
of
the
meetings
to
the
list
and
potentially
record
your
meetings
and
send
out
updates
to
the
list
kind
of
here.
Even
if
it's
just
brief
minutes
of
what
you
talked
about
following
the
meeting
for
those
of
us
or
people
that
can't
make
it
parentsí.
B
F
C
F
F
F
C
F
Is
to
send
out
an
email,
let
everyone
know
that
the
vote
is
coming
up
last
chance
for
anyone
to
self
nominate
or
nominate
someone
else.
I'll
make
sure
everyone
who
we'll
be
on
the
balance
is
also
willing
to
serve
on
the
governing
at
the
Code
of
Conduct
team
and
then
I'll
send
out
the
election
ballot
so
that
we
get
the
results
in.
So
that's
my
timeline
on
this.