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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call 4/19/22
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B
Yeah
everybody
hello,
it
is
what
is
the
day
april,
19th
tuesday,
your
chaos
weekly
community
meeting
is
happening
right
now
and
you're
here
for
it.
So
thank
you.
The
minutes
should
be
in
the
chat.
If
you
need
them
again,
we
can
certainly
drop
those
in
there
and,
if
you
don't
mind
putting
your
name
in
as
an
attendee
today,
that
would
be
awesome
all
right.
Let
me
share
my
screen
here.
We
go.
B
B
C
E
Okay,
cool
great,
so
cara
put
out
like
a
reach
out
for
on
sweetheart,
and
I
I
kind
of
like
messaged,
her
and
kara
said
an
idea.
So
github
maintenance
month
is
like
they're
celebrating
maintenance
month
of
june.
If
you
navigate
to
the
github
repository,
there's
also
like
a
site
link,
so
cara
asked
if
chaos
since
I
was
part.
Okay,
I'm
part
of
chaos.
Kara
asks
if
we
would
want
to
like
run
activity.
E
E
I
think
we
have
to
like
determine
that.
The
idea
from
her
mainly
was
that
if
we
could
do
like
a
virtual
event
to
show
maintainers,
you
know
maybe
part
of
our
metrics,
I
think
we'll
have
to
decide
on
what
we
want
to
do,
but
they
have
like
a
schedule
where
we
could
do
a
workshop,
or
you
know
a
working
group
session.
They
have
like.
Let
me
put
this
site
in
the
description.
A
E
C
G
G
C
G
H
Are
any
of
the
sessions
optional
for
something
that's
more
interactive,
or
should
we
assume
that
it's
more
of
a
traditional
presentation,
because
I
have
an
idea
for
like
something
that's
more
interactive,
which
is?
I
was
just
looking
at
our
metric
for
project
burnout
focused
on
maintainers
and
maintaining
the
well-being
of
maintainers,
and
I
would
love
to
say,
put
what's
in
that
metric
into
more
of
an
active
workshop
setting
where
we
could
get
feedback
on
what
elements
are
more
or
less
impactful.
H
I
guess
from
their
own
perspective,
there's
a
way
not
to
say
stress,
test
the
metric,
but
there's
a
lot
of
guidance
and
a
lot
of
nuance
in
what's
described
in
it,
that
if
we
put
it
into
a
practical
setting
like
a
group
of
maintainers
across
various
projects,
we
could,
I
don't
know
we
could
get
some
like
some
feedback
on
it,
as
well
as
some
guidance
of
how
to
make
this
work
in
their
setting.
And
it's
kind
of
like.
I
feel
like
with
a
lot
of
our
metrics.
H
E
C
Yeah,
I'm
just
looking.
I
remembered
kara
tweeted
about
this
a
day
or
two
ago
and
what
you
said
was
you
know?
Maybe
you
have
a
podcast
and
want
to
theme
your
june
episode
around
open
source
maintainers
or
you
have
resources
that
you're
launching
or
related
twitch
stream,
so
it
sounds
like
the
format
is
totally
totally
up
to
us.
I
suspect
that
we
have
to
pull
the
whole
thing
together
and
and
deliver
it
as
a
part
part
of
this.
It
sounds
like
because
it's
so
flexible,
it
sounds
like
you
know,
it's
not.
C
B
G
G
E
B
E
E
B
D
G
E
B
B
All
right,
the
next
thing
we
wanted
to
just
make
sure
everybody
saw
that
we
released
our
metrics
hooray
and
we
wanted
to
give
a
special
shout
out
to
a
few
folks,
vanad
you're
awesome.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
work
and
pulling
all
the
last
minute
changes.
Getting
that
ready
to
go
you're,
you're,
amazing,
also
matt
g,
and
you
thank
you
for
doing
all
of
the
quality
control
and
looking
through
everything
making
sure
it
all
looks
great.
B
And
of
course
we
have
to
thank
kevin,
who
is
manages
all
of
this
stuff
and
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
So
hats
off
to
all
of
you.
Also
thank
you
to
everyone
who
worked
on
the
metrics
and
who
also
took
the
time
to
review
metrics
from
other
working
groups
and
things
like
that.
All
of
those
people
all
of
you
make
our
metrics
amazing.
Do
you
guys
want
to
see
them?
I
think
we
do.
Let's
look.
B
Metrics
definitions,
look
at
these
pdfs
they're,
beautiful
they're
super
gorgeous
they're,
also
very
long,
but
they're
very
gorgeous,
so
any
metric
you
ever
want
to
see
it's
all
in
this
nice
little
pdf
here
images
all
of
it
look.
How
pretty
that
is
beautiful
and
also
the
chinese
version
is
equally
as
beautiful.
B
G
That
would
be
me,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
in
each
of
your
yeah
you
can
click
on
it.
Each
of
your
working
group
repositories.
Now
this
is
just
in
common,
but
there
are
now
three
different
metric
templates,
so
one
the
first
one
is
for
a
metric
idea.
So
this
is
like
a
new
idea.
You
know
how
we
capture
the
new
metric
ideas.
The
second
is
for.
B
G
So
so
metrics
release
candidates,
so
this
is
the
template
that
you
would
copy
and
paste
normally
into
a
release
candidate.
So
now
it's
just
a
template.
So
when
you
open
a
new
issue,
you
can
just
use
that
template.
You
don't
have
to
copy
and
paste
and
then
the
third
is
for
revising
a
metric,
so
particularly
in
this
round
as
you're
revising
a
metric.
F
G
B
G
D
G
Finalized
a
metric
and
you
need
to
get
it
out
as
a
metric
release
candidate,
just
follow
that
template
and
each
one
of
the
working
groups
has
their
own
like.
I
had
to
replicate
each
of
these
templates
into
each
of
the
different
metrics
working
groups,
just
because
I
didn't
want
to
put
it
into
the
org,
the
org.github
folder,
because
then
it
would
show
up
all
these
templates
would
show
up
in
like
remoralab
related
things
and
auger
related
things,
and
I
don't
think
you
necessarily
need
these
metrics
templates.
G
Correct
and
if
you
see
any
problems
with
them,
just
you
can
in
any
of
the
working
groups
like
if
you
see
an
update,
that
you
want
to
make
to
the
template,
just
go
into
any
working
group
and
suggest
a
change
on
the
template
and
just
tag
me
and
then
I'll
see
that
and
then
I
can
cascade
it
across
the
others.
You
know
what
I
mean
yeah,
so
you
go
to
code
and
then
just.github,
folder
and
they're
there
boom
love
it
modify
him
there.
G
B
A
What
a
metrics
model
is
without
an
implementation
of
it
and
yahui
built
on
that
in
the
general
discussion
and
said
you
know
what
it's
not
just
building
it
in
software.
That's
important.
It's
doing
some
kind
of
empirical
evaluation
that
the
metric
model
itself
is
useful.
Now
I
don't
think
he's
talking
about
a
research
study,
but
I
I
think
my
read
of
the
intention
in
uh's
comments
is
that
okay,
we
define
the
metric
model,
we
build
some
software
and
then
we
run
it
against
a
couple
repositories
to
see.
A
A
B
A
A
Kids,
thank
you.
Yes,
so
this
idea
doesn't
we
didn't
discuss
tool
kits
at
all?
Those
are
a
different
phenomena,
also
under
the
metrics
model
working
group
and
obviously
you
probably
wouldn't
be
building
software
you
might
be
evaluating,
but
that's
kind
of
been
out
of
scope
of
the
discussion
we've
had
so
far.
B
So
yeah,
if
you
can
join
if
you
are
interested
in
talking
about
this
stuff,
they're
complicated
conversations
and
we're
still
trying
to
sort
out
what
our
official
stance,
I
think,
is
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
those
metric
models
group
that
meeting
is
is
awesome.
I
know
it's
at
a
bad
time
for
our
poor
european
folks,
but
yeah
check
the
chaos
calendar
for
those
they
happen
at
6
p.m,
u.s
central
chicago
time,
every
other
tuesday
or
you
can
join
the
slack.
B
Nope,
okay:
let's
go
on!
I
put
this
on
here.
She
codeafrica
update
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update.
We
have
a
repo
yay,
we
haven't
named
the
bot
yet,
but
right
now
it's
chaos.
Slackbot
and
again
this
is
going
to
be
a
slackbot
that
helps
newcomers,
point
them
to
resources
and
find
their
way
through
the
chaos
jungle,
because
there's
a
lot
going
on
here,
so
yeah
we're
hoping
to
help
that
out.
Hopefully
one
of
the
functions
of
the
bot
will
be.
B
If
someone
is
mentioning
certain
keywords,
it
might
pop
up
a
direct
message
to
that
person
and
say:
hey
just
so.
You
know
here's
a
here's,
a
reference
that
might
be
helpful
to
you,
since
you
mentioned
outreachy,
for
instance,
did
you
have
you
seen
these
here?
Are
some
docs
for
you,
so
things
like
that,
because
right
now,
all
of
that
stuff
is
all
manual,
and
it
all
requires
someone
from
the
chaos
team
to
answer
a
question
directly
or
to
intervene
or
to
have
some
kind
of
conversation,
which
is
is
great.
It's
fine.
B
I,
like
that
personal
touch,
but
it
also
means
that
you
know
hopefully
we're
catching
everybody,
we're
catching
all
the
questions
and
then
that
way
someone
can
find
what
they
need
before
they
have
to
wait
for
somebody
to
respond
so
so
yeah
any
questions.
Okay,
I
see
a
couple
questions
over
here
from
mahi.
When
does
the
discussion
about
auger
happen?
There
is
not
a
meeting
for
augur
there
used
to
be,
but
there
isn't
now.
So
I
think
everything
happens
in
slack
sean.
Would
you
say
that's
fair.
A
That's
fair,
I
mean
we
took
away
the
auger
meeting
because
it
wasn't
really
widely
attended.
I
think,
if
there's
demand
for
it,
there's
no
harm
in
giving
it
a
sh,
giving
it
a
try
again
to
see
if
that
that
helps
to
push
the
project
forward.
I
might
suggest
that
we
have
a
more
general
meeting
about
chaos,
software
so
that
many
software
questions
that
arise
with
grimore,
lab
or
blogger.
Could
you
know
we
could
use
that
meeting
to
you
know,
help
advance
the
gremore
lab
product
as
as
well
as
answer
any
questions
about
auger.
A
A
B
Mahi
an
answer
to
your
other
question:
why
don't
we
have
a
discord?
Server?
That's
a
good
question.
I
think
we
have.
I
think
slack
is
probably
just
going
to
be
our
communication
channel
of
choice.
For
the
time
being,
we
are
opening
up
a
discourse
forum
which
is
different.
I
know
the
discord,
even
though
in
my
brain
I
have
to
think
about
which
one
is
which,
because
I'm
old,
but
they.
A
B
So
this
is
a
topic
we
can
maybe
revisit
ever.
You
know
whoever
would
be
involved
in
this
think
about
it
and
if
you
want
something
on
the
calendar,
just
let
me
know-
and
I
will
be
happy
to
put
that
on
there
and
spread
the
word
that
it
exists.
But
I
will
leave
that
up
to
you
all
to
decide
if
you
have
the
bandwidth
for
that
and
if
it
makes
sense.
D
I
I
That
would
be
all
because
if
we
I
mean
based
on
previous
experience
and
probably
you've
had
the
same
song
with
or
you,
you
could
keep
explaining
once
and
again
the
software
or
the
purpose
of
the
software
or
so
while
maybe
the
purpose
of
the
meeting
is
a
different
one.
So
it's
just
about
you
know,
trying
to
to
focus
and
have
a
clear
outcome
of.
A
I
Sean,
I
think,
maybe
maybe
a
good
starting
point,
but
this
is
something
to
discuss,
probably
in
out
of
this,
because
we
are
we.
This
is
in
chaos
in
general,
but
something
like
having
a
talk
together
about
chaos,
software
in
in
dublin.
Well,
I've
been
doubling
not
in
north
america,
but
yeah,
maybe
not
even
in
at
the
chaos,
but
we
can
go
for
kscon,
of
course,
but
for
openshift.
I
A
We
we
agreed
on
the
idea-
and
I
think
I
think
so,
we'll
we'll
find
a
location
and
we'll
do
that.
Okay,
I
agree
with
you.
That's
that's
a
good
place
to
start
and
I
honestly
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
diving
into
gremore,
lab
or
auger
over
the
summer,
unless
they're
in
google
summer
code.
A
I
think
a
lot's
changed
I
I
followed
george's
pattern,
which
was
outstanding
for
those
for
chisok
summer
season
of
docs
and
outreachy.
I
don't
know
and-
and
it
all
worked
just
fine,
except
that
we
had
way
more
people
the
so
the
problem
wasn't
the
way
we
did
it.
The
problem
was
that
way
more
people
wanted
to
do
it
right.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
as
these,
these
programs
have
worked
really
hard
to
scale
themselves,
like
it's
kind
of
filtered
down
to
each
individual
project,
who
is
now
handling
a
lot,
a
lot
more
of
an
influx
of
questions
and
applicants,
which
is
is
great.
But
if
you
know
like,
I
don't
think
we
had
the
infrastructure
really
put
in
place
to
handle,
because
we
didn't
know
so
yeah
matt
do.
B
B
G
G
I
guess
I
had
one
other
thing:
it
was
just
from
the
meeting
with
with
john
lee
just
about
it
was
just
about
code
of
conduct,
and
there
was
a
suggestion
that
came
out
that
we
just
have
a
single
code
of
conduct.
So
remember
this
was
the
discussion.
It
reminded
me
when
you
were
showing
that
the
code
of
conduct
for
an
event
and
whether
or
not
we
used
the
linux
foundation's
code
of
conduct
or
our
code
of
conduct.
One
of
the
recommendations
that
did
come
from
that
conversation
is
first.
G
G
G
G
B
B
Yes,
of
course,
we
would
love
to
have
you
stick
around
and
contribute
in
whichever
way
makes
sense
for
you
whether
it
be
working
on
metrics
helping
with
the
software
coming
to
meetings
yeah,
really
we
would
love
to
still
have
you
around
so
do
not
hesitate
to
still
be
part
of
the
community.
We
would
absolutely
love
that
for
sure.
B
D
B
B
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
I'm
glad
you
asked
it's
it's
on
my
list
of
things
to
do.
Yeah,
I'm
hoping
to
have
something
that
I
was
going
to
show
for
the
website.
When
the
website
gets
redesigned,
I
want
to
maybe
incorporate
it
somehow,
but
I'm
not
sure
like
what
that
will
actually
look
like
at
the
end,
what's
needed
and
like
how
that
will
fit
in.
B
B
B
That's
exactly
right:
it'll
be
80
on
friday,
so
yeah
there's
our
spring
this
week
is
our
spring.
Apparently
we
get
five
days
of
it
so
yeah
anyway,
all
right,
I
hope
everybody
has
a
great
day.
I
really
do
and
we're
glad
you're
here
so
we'll
see
you
next
week
same
time.
Same
place
of
course
hit
us
up
on
slack.
If
you
want
to
chat
in
the
meantime,
but
take
care,
everybody
see
you
later.