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From YouTube: CHAOSS Community Meeting 11-17-20
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A
Ahead
and
get
started,
we
have
the
agenda
from
from
last
week,
we
on
the
community
reports,
we've
been
working
just
so
people
know
we've
been
working
through
just
the
processes
sean.
Do
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
the
auger
side
of
things
there.
C
So
I've
got
the
auger
process
automated
and
I
sent
the
nod
the
wrong
graph,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
both
the
particular
repo
that
we
got
a
request
for
for
the
first
request
did
not
have
a
lot
of
activity
in
it,
and
so
we
were
able
to
provide
with
auger
insights
using
one
of
the
two
visualizations,
because
the
other
one
just
didn't
have
enough
data
behind
it
and
I
believe
grammar
lab
had
the
same
issue
because
of
the
very
limited
activity.
It's
a
covid
database
from
wuhan
and
or
github
repository.
C
A
D
F
E
F
E
C
E
G
C
C
A
Got
to
be
happening
alrighty.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
had
a
couple
action
items
asking
how
the
lf
handles
data
on
their
side
through
salesforce,
that's
been
sent
and
then
also
that
draft
privacy
policy
that
gary
could
put
together
put
it
in
the
minutes
here
again.
A
In
terms
of
outreach,
so
elizabeth
is
setting
up
kind
of
a
way
that
we,
for
those
that
are
interested
in
the
community
report,
can
talk
about
how
to
encourage
folks
to
request
the
report
get
the
reports
in
in
the
hands
of
other
people.
We
don't
need
to
talk
about.
We
talked
about
this
last
week
and
I
think
sophia
and
john
had
some
really
good
ideas.
A
Other
people
too,
about
the
community
reports,
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
thought
about
was:
do
you
see
that,
where
I
say
if
we
simply
generated
10
or
so
reports,
you
see
that
I
highlighted
it
at
the
top
of
the
second
page.
A
So
a
lot
of
this,
a
lot
of
the
community
report
stuff
started
out
with
a
conversation
with
cara
from
jenkins
x.
Does
anybody
remember
that
a
long
time
ago,
and
so
we
right
that
obviously
opened
up
a
can
of
worms,
not
not
a
bad
can
of
worms,
but
just
a
kind
of
a
process
thing
we
had
to
think
about
like
what
we
would
provide.
How
would
go
about
doing
this?
A
What
the
process
would
look
like,
so
what
seemed
like
a
fairly
straightforward
request
turned
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
tonight
than
I
think
we
thought.
Maybe
so
what
would
what
do
people
think
about
actually
just
generating
reports?
Community
reports-
and
you
can
totally
tell
me-
I'm
crazy,
but
community
reports
for
for
for
communities,
but
even
just
if
it's
based
on
one
repository
and
reaching
out
to
folks
and
saying
hey,
just
fyi
these
are.
This
is
a
report
that
we've
generated,
and
these
could
be
people
that
we
know.
A
So
it's
not
like
completely
out
of
the
blue,
yeah
and
cara
was
obviously
the
first
person
that
came
to
mind.
That's
why
I
have
jenkins
x
in
there
that
I
you
know,
would
be
happy
to
kind
of
start
that
process
just
for
the
jenkins
x,
repo,
the
main
jenkins,
x,
repo
and
reach
out
to
cara
and
say
thanks
for
your
patience,
it's
only
been
11
months
or
10
months,
since
this
conversation
started,
but
here's
a
here's,
a
community
report
that
may
be
useful
to
you.
I
E
That's
fair,
I
propose.
Maybe
we
contact
them
from
ourselves
and
like
ask
them,
will
you
be
willing
to
look
at
it
and
if
they
say
yes,
then
we
generate
it
and
send
it
to
them
instead
of
just
generating
and
sending
it
to
them,
because
we
we
already
know
these
folks.
So
maybe
we
can
like
friendly
ask
them
whether
they
will
be
interested.
E
C
E
A
Okay,
I
mean
part
of
it
is
to
try
to.
The
hope
is:
is
that
folks
would
not
mind
sharing
it
publicly
and
we
can
start
building
a
small
repository
of
community
reports,
it's
kind
of
building
that
initial
momentum,
and
now
that
we
have
the
process
down
based
on
last
week
and
just
the
comments
that
came
up
last
week
too.
B
We
come
in
here
so
well.
We
used
to
be
teacher
in
master
and
free
silver,
like
back
in
2012-13
and
some
of
the
students
we
had.
We
asked
them
to
to
share
their
experiences
with
the
community,
and
one
of
the
things
was
as
well
to
to
prepare
some
small
reports,
so
they
they
were
doing
some
kind
of
community
analysis.
The
feedback
in
general
was
really
good.
I
don't
remember
any
any
case
where
people
said.
Oh,
what
are
you
doing
here
right,
although
we
are
these
days
with
gdpr
and
so
on?
B
So
it's
a
bit
more
complicated
and
we
are.
We
are
part
of
a
community
and
so
on,
but
in
general
the
feedback
was
good,
so
I
agree
with
sophia
with
the
concept
a
we
are
here,
looking
at
you,
but
if
we
go
with
the
right,
you
know
approach
I
think,
should
be
okay,
that
experience
and
so.
A
We're
done
cool,
it's
good
to
hear
it
all
right.
Thank
you
is
kevin
on
kevin.
Yes,
we're
on
the
web
hosting
change
issue.
Do
you
have
any
updates
on
that.
J
A
J
J
So
still
in
the
exploratory
phase
and
the
the
discussion
for
that
will
begin
december,
which
day
is
that
december.
J
7Th
7th
yeah.
This
is
the
next
web
content
meeting,
which
everyone,
of
course
is
invited
to.
G
J
We're
looking
for
more
administrative
control,
okay,
so
one
of
the
so
it's
still
going
to
be
a
wordpress
site
and
we're
basically
just
going
to
migrate
it
to
a
new
hosting
site.
Okay,
okay
got
it
specifically
the
issue
that
that
kind
of
the
kind
of
the
last
straw
for
this
was
an
issue
around
url
redirects
like
in
our
in
our
current
in
the
current
website.
I
I
don't
really
have
the
ability
to
create
url
redirects.
So
when
links
change,
they
just
go
dead.
J
Okay,
that's
that's!
Not
cool.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you,
kevin
more
to
come
on
that
all
right,
so
translations,
I'm
down
moving
my
worry
through
the
document
here,
so
we
have
translated
the
chaos
metrics
to
chinese
and
spanish.
So
we've
had
that
work
done
in
an
effort
to
provide
the
information
more
broadly,
and
then
I
wrote:
what
did
you
decide
on
this?
So
I
we
currently
have
the
translations
done
they're
already
behind,
not
surprisingly,
because
one
of
the
metrics
changed,
you
know
the
review
metric,
it
changed
to
change
requests
and
anyway,
and
we
can
get
that
fixed.
A
But
what
did
what
did
we
decide
on
this
in
terms
of
making
these
translations
available?
I
just
forget:
I
go
ahead.
Kevin.
J
My
understanding
is
that
we're
going
to
take
the
initial
step
of
doing
our
metrics
release
in
those
two
languages
that
have
been
translated
and
I
believe
it's
spanish,
and
is
it
a
one
of
the
one
of
the
chinese
dialects
yep
chinese,
which
one
mandarin
so
chinese
and
mandarin?
J
And
we
were
so
we're
going
to
release
that
in
pdf
form,
which
is
similar
to
the
way
we
have
done
our
full
releases
in
the
past.
So
that's
the
first
step
and
then
moving
forward.
Obviously
we
could
do
more
with
translations,
but
I
think
the
first
step
was
just
that
pdf
release
of
the
metrics.
J
Also,
my
my
understanding
was:
we
were
going
to
time
that
released
at
the
same
time
as
the
the
regular
release
which
currently
is
scheduled
for
february,
but
I
saw
there
might
be
a
little
change
so.
F
J
D
Anybody
have
any
comments
or
questions
on
that
if
they're
releasing
it
as
a
pdf,
then
there's
no
need
to
update
the
current
translation,
because
it's
up
to
date
with
the
last
release,
and
so
the
pdf
would
reflect
that
release
status.
Not
the
changes
that
we
have
made
since
that
are
currently
under
review.
A
J
I
don't
know
that
I
need
anything
from
you,
georg,
and
I
have
collaborated
on
the
releases
in
the
past.
I
think
there's
probably
some
discussion
that
he
and
I
would
have
to
have
to
make
this
happen
and
then,
once
again,
obviously
anyone
else
who
is
interested
in
taking
part
in
that
is
certainly
welcome
to
join.
B
J
J
However,
the
what's
been
proposed
is
that
we
just
do
the
pdf
and
the
translation
does
not
have
any
presence
on
the
website,
so
we
would
have
to.
We
have
to
basically
generate
that
pdf
without
the
web
presence.
So
it's
kind
of
a
new,
a
new
process
I
mean
so
where's.
D
I
see
so
it's
about
the
formatting
and
how
to
make
it
look
nice
in
the
pdf.
Yes,
I
understood.
C
You
have
a
comment.
I
was
only
thinking
that
at
some
point
in
the
future
once
we're
good
at
this,
we
might
consider
the
little
a
plug-in
since
we
have
more
control
of
the
website.
That
would
let
people
choose
their
preferred
language
for
those
for
which
we
have
translations.
A
A
A
All
right
new
items,
so
the
metrics
release
date,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
you
kevin
on
this
one.
C
Oh
so
some
in
north
america
is
completely
moved,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
spend
july
in
you
know,
working
on
a
metrics
release
when
that
july
august
tends
to
be
the
time
that
europe
is
off
a
lot
and
we
don't
really
need
to
spend
december
gunning
for
a
release
prior
to
fosdem.
Since
I
would
predict
fosdem
does
not
occur
in
person
this
year.
K
They've
already
said,
boston
was
going
to
be
virtual
and
and
to
be
honest,
I
I
know
we
liked
to
time
it
to
the
conferences
so
that
we
could
talk
about
the
release
of
the
conferences,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that
ever
really
got
us
much
other
than
people
were
stressed
out
about
organizing
the
conference
and
putting
presentations
together
and
also
stressed
out
about
putting
the
metrics
release
out
at
the
same
time.
So
I.
J
A
J
Good
in
that
area,
all
right,
okay,
great,
oh,
and
keep
in
mind
there
were
there
were
a
couple
other
things
that
we
had
been
kind
of
talking
about,
coinciding
with
that
first
of
the
year
release,
and
one
of
them
is
the
thing
we
just
talked
about
the
the
translations
and
then
the
other
thing
we
were
talking
about
was
archiving
our
archiving.
Our
our
weekly
meeting
notes.
J
J
J
I
A
Would
occur
twice
a
year,
yep!
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
kevin.
Thank
you.
Sean.
Thank
you.
Don
next
item
is
attribution
this.
This
is
a
good
one.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
those
links
there,
I'll
put
it
in
the.
A
A
So
so,
thanks
to
to
the
folks
at
insights
and
thanks
to
the
mike
dolan,
who
helped
kind
of
get
this
done.
So
I
think
it's
it's
nice
attribution.
So
you
see
one
is
just
a
page
of
all
things
that
they're
working
with
and
then
another
is
a
specific
call
out
to
gremore
lab
and
the
chaos
project
on
the
insights
page.
A
I
have
so
anna
had
sent
me.
There
was
a
logo
that
anna
wanted
updated
and
then
garrett
had
pointed
out
just
a
misnaming
in
there
I'll
I'll,
collect
those
things
and
send
them
back.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that
there
was
a
just
a
github
page
that
they
managed.
That
would
be
a
little
easier
to.
We.
A
A
All
right,
so
that
was
just
more
of
an
update
and
by
the
way,
too,
I'm
still
kind
of
waiting
on
the
the
kernel
report,
so
that
there
was
also
an
attribution
issue
on
the
2020
kernel
report
and
that
hasn't
gone
through
yet
so.
But
it
should
so
more
to
come
on
that
all
right
community
handbook,
I'm
guessing
somebody
added
that
probably
georg
gary.
C
D
D
H
Yes,
so,
as
I
was
working
on
the
community
handbook
as
a
part
of
google
season
talks
program,
so
I'm
just
prior
to
my
ending,
I
would
be
completing,
like
I've,
already
completed
the
community
handbook
which
can
be
checked
over
here,
and
we
also
have
a
github
repo
for
this.
So,
like
all
the
basic
pages
have
been
implemented
over
here,
and
my
next
step
would
be
to
improve
it
in
a
better
sense
and
I
usually
invite
improvements
and
suggestion
which
you
can
put
up.
H
So
if
you
are,
if
you
can
help
me
since
it's
the
community
oriented
book,
so
I
think
like
it
would
really
be
creative
as
a
part
of
comedy.
We
all
can
get
engaged
into
it
and
provide
a
better
feedback
so
that
we
have
a
better
outcome.
Representation
of
the
comment-
chaos
community
by
the
handbook,
so
yeah.
D
B
A
Yeah,
I'm,
I
think
it
turned
out
really
great
too
thanks
for
everybody
that
helped
with
josh
karat
too.
I
think
they're
joshua.
You
had
a
lot
of
great
questions
for
people
to
when
you
were
constructing
the
handbook.
So
thanks
for
everybody
for
helping
out
in
that
as
well,
but
I
think
it
really
looks
great.
H
Sure,
thanks
and
the
most
interesting
part
for
me
and
exciting
part
for
me
was
to
know
the
chaos
history,
where
I
collaborated
with
various
people
interviewing
them,
knowing
about
chaos
in
every
possible
sense
like
how
it
evaluated
with
linux,
foundation,
petergia
and
other
communities.
So
it
was
really
funny
all
those
facts
and
I
have
drafted
all
these
things
into
the
community
handbook.
So
I'm
sure,
like
you're
gonna,
have
pleasure.
Reading
this
handbook
and
yes,
I'm
open
to
any
suggestions
and
improvements.
D
D
H
D
A
A
Let's
see
we
are
working
our
way
through.
There
are
a
couple
things
with
respect
to
meetings,
so
I
had
a
few
so
thanksgiving
somebody
put
this
one
in
I'm
getting
thumbs
downs
from
gay
oregon
ray
so.
A
C
Yeah
I
mean-
I
I
think
I
mean
tuesday
in
the
us-
is
often
the
day
that
people
travel,
so
I
might
suggest
that
we
just
not
have
meetings
next
week.
C
A
A
Man,
that's
true
you're
from
wisconsin.
What
are
you
talking
about?
Are
you
also
also
true
all
right,
so
how
about
the
answer
seems
to
be
no
sorry,
we'll
cancel
meetings
and
then.
J
A
G
I
just
added
like
one
item:
I
don't
know
if
you
people
are
seeing
that
on
google
doc
like
is
there
have
we
talked
about
chaos
con
in
the
first
half
of
next
year?
I
no
it's.
It's
got
to
be
virtual,
like
it's
not
going
to
happen
in
person,
so
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
decide
now
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
this
after
thanksgiving,
but.
G
Okay,
like
dawn
said,
I
mean
fosdem
is
already
you
know
virtual
and
I
assume
most
conferences
will
be
ritual
in
the
first
half
of
next
year,
but
I
know
we
skipped
it
in
august,
but
yeah
we
can
revisit
this
in
in
in
a
few
weeks,
but
just
wait
to
tee
that
up.
I
guess
yeah.
G
C
K
G
K
G
I
mean
I,
I
like
the
idea
of
doing
something
for
the
apac
folks.
This
being
virtual,
that's
obviously
makes
a
lot
easier.
I
mean
we
might
have
to
get
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
but
that's
fine
for
yeah.
C
I
don't
see
it
on
the
calendar,
it
must
have
been.
A
K
We
talked
about
it
quite
a
bit
in
was
it
the
last
meeting.
I
think
it
was
the
one
that
you
missed
and
and
what
I
recommended
was
actually
that
we
bring
it
as
an
agenda
item
into
this
meeting
so
that
everybody
could
talk
about
it
as
a
group,
but
I
feel
like
there
are
enough
of
us
in
you
know
in
europe
that
we
could
cover,
like
you
know,
part
of
the
part
of
the
day
before
before
it
makes
sense
for
people
in
the
u.s
to
participate.
A
Nice,
because
we
had,
if
it
has
come
up
in
the
asia,
pacific
hall
and
there's
an
interest,
it
seems
like
a
very
great
way
to
bring
it
bring
these
together.
K
They
would
actually
love
to
do
it
in
person
next
year.
B
K
B
K
Better
control
in
lots
of
countries
than
it
is.