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CHAOSS.Community.July.2.2019
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Now
these
just
went
live
last
week,
and
we
have
you
know
four
weeks
to
make
comments,
so
I
would
I'll
send
out
a
request
later
today,
but
it
would
really
be
great
if
folks
on
this
call
and
folks
in
the
community
could
even
just
pick
one
or
two
metrics
to
take
a
look
at.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
an
extensive
review
of
of
it
every
metric
and
preferably
not
a
metric.
That's
in
the
working
group
that
you're
part
of
which
would
be
great
I,
gave
her
goodbye.
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C
A
That
would
be
great,
the
broader
the
number
of
people
that
can
take
a
look
at
these,
the
better
that's
cheap,
thank
you
so
Armstrong
did
that
make
sense
to
you
too.
You
see
the
link
there.
Yes,
I've
seen
the
link
okay
great
so
again,
if
people
could
just
pick
a
few
and
just
give
them
a
read
and
if
something
makes
sense
great
and
if
it
doesn't
make
sense
great
I'm
opposed
to
comment.
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A
So,
for
example,
we
did
this
in
value
on
Friday
to
try
to
find
ways
to
improve
the
metrics
and
I
think
it
was
super
valuable,
at
least
from
my
from
my
point
of
view,
yeah.
So
anyway,
that's
kind
of
the
process
right
now.
Any
other
comments
on
this
things
are
going
well
again.
I
want
to
say
thanks
to
Kevin,
for
building
out
this
website.
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So
the
Linux
Foundation
handles
the
Payoneer
account
and
I'd
really
like,
so
those
funds
are
going
to
go
into
the
Linux
Foundation
Payoneer
account
I
really
want
to
get
those
funds
out
of
the
Linux
Foundation
into
community
bridge,
because
we
still
actually
have
some
old
funds
sitting
at
the
LF
that
aren't
in
community
bridge-
and
this
is
it's
gonna
happen
again
this
summer,
because
that's
where
the
dollars
are
gonna
go.
So
it's
really
just
a
logistical
update.
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G
H
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A
F
A
Okay,
cool
all
right:
okay,
that's
kind
of
North
America,
so
this
will
be
a
little
bit
of
time,
so
I
think
I.
We
have
our
two
are
two
key
notes
set.
So
we
have
Jana
Gallus
who's,
an
academic
from
UCLA
who's
going
to
be
talking
about,
rewards
and
the
impact
of
rewards
in
community
engagement,
and
we
also
have
sahih
de
and
I.
Don't
know
her.
Last
name
was
a
manager
of
open
source
at
AWS.
So
to
give
us
and
I
wish
I
wish
dawn
was
here
because
dump
this
was
Dawn's
invite.
Do
you
remember?
F
G
A
So
the
schedule
I
think
at
this
point
so
I
think
it's
the
heat
of
Bora
ahead
of
opens
for
strategy
at
AWS
just
great.
So
we
have
basically
the
two
key
notes
that
we
have,
or
one
from
industry
talking
about
open
source
and
open
source
related
issues,
particularly
around
health,
and
one
is
an
academic,
so
I
think
that'll
be
great.
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J
G
D
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F
C
A
A
So,
honestly,
everything
seems
to
be
going
pretty
well
in
that
regard.
I've
ordered
stickers
and
poker
chips
to
hand
out
is
kind
of
some
things
to
give
away
to
people
I
still
need
to
get
the
name
badges
made
for
some
reason,
I
keep
forgetting
to
send
requests
in
I.
Remember
now,
but
then
this
meeting
will
end
and
I
will
forget:
I'm
gonna,
be
there?
Is
anybody
gonna
be
there
the
day
before
it
all?
A
E
A
I
know
a
few
people
will
be
around
the
day
before
I'd
I
might
ping
you
just
if
we
need
anything
for
helping
set
up
or
whatever
it
might
be.
So
the
way
the
chaos
con
structure
is
gonna
work
this
year
is
we
have
two
rooms.
We
have
one
room,
that's
gonna
be
dedicated
to
presentation,
so
it
to
be
all
of
the
20-minute
presentations
and
all
of
the
lightning
talks.
You
know
so,
like
20
minute
blocks,
take
a
break.
Your
three
20
min
blocks
take
a
break.
Three
20
minute
blocks.
Take
a
break
lunch.
J
A
Then
the
other
room
is
gonna,
be
for
the
workshops,
and
so
there's
gonna
be
a
grimore
lab
workshop.
There's
gonna
be
an
auger
workshop
and
there's
gonna
be
a
diversity
and
inclusion
workshop,
so
you
can't
obviously
attend
both
smaller
room
is
for
more
hands-on
work.
People
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
technologies
or
participate
in
the
DNI
workshop
and
then
the
other
is
for
just
listening
to
the
presentations
and
engaging
that
way.
So
that's
the
structure.
We
have
okay.
I
Because
that's
not
not
really
her
expertise.
She
has
a
lot
of
expertise
and
kind
of
open
source
programs,
so
I
think
she's
gonna
talk
about
it
more
from
the
standpoint
of
how
it
impacts,
decision,
making
and
kind
of
in
kind
of
ways
that
she's
done
that
over
over
the
years.
So
yeah
I'll
put
that
on
my
to-do
list
to
follow
up
with
her
and.
I
A
A
And
then
just
we're
gonna
get
the
schedule
published
I'm
guessing
this
week.
I
think
we're
set
in
every
other
regard
and
Alison
from
in
bead
she's
gonna.
Do
the
20
minute
talk
so
we're
all
good
there
cool?
Okay,
all
right
great
any
other
comments
on
chaos.
Come
right
looks
like
we're
just
rolling
into
that
one
right
now:
okay,
so
here's
one
that
I
okay,
so
chaos
on
social
media,
all
right
so
I
might
have
a
a
very
nice
Twitter
handle
remain,
but
I
don't.
C
A
C
Mean
generally,
the
approach
that
we
take
it
redhead
is
that
we
try
to
establish
ourselves
and
the
people
in
our
communities
as
thought
leaders
in
the
process.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
going
to
be
the
occasional
hey.
We've
got
a
new
blog
or
new
content
here,
we're
talking
about
the
metrics
releases
or
things
like
that,
but
then
there's
also
we
interspersed
content
around
anything
to
do
with
metrics.
So
you
know
if
the
harbor
project
were
to
post
something
online,
we
would
say
hey.
C
I
One
of
the
things
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
is
getting
announcements
and
things
like
that
out
through
the
Linux
Foundation
channels,
like
the
fact
that
we
have
this
release
coming
up.
I
think
we
really
should
work
with
with
people
like
Sarah
and
others
at
the
Linux
Foundation
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
getting.
You
know,
maybe
mentions
in
their
press
releases
around
around
the
conferences
and
things
like
that
to
better
promote
the
overall
work
of
the
project.
E
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A
G
I
A
Sorry,
I'm
gonna
ask
some
really
questions
here,
so
it
is
this
about
the
chaos
project,
handling
our
social
media
better
or
is
it
about
us
like
me,
as
a
person
contacting
somebody
at
the
LF
and
pointing
them
to
say,
like
the
chaos
weekly
thing,
you
don't
I
mean
like
that
seems
how
do
we
we
start
bridging
this
to
get
a
wider
audience.
I
think.
A
I
A
E
Yeah
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
was
just
throwing
in
the
document.
There
is
I
think
just
having
a
written
strategy
about
what
we
want
to
achieve
and
how
and
why,
then
we
can
kind
of
use
that,
as
a
roadmap
for
people
who
cycle
in
and
out
of
having
the
permissions
to
post
things,
I
can
I
can
write
that
up.
It's
not
hard.
I
can
do
that
in
the
next
couple
of
days.
That.
F
K
I
have
an
opinion
on
this.
My
opinion
is
the
best
way
to
raise
visibility
is
to
try
and
communicate
less
instead
of
more
the
whole
vision
of
chaos
is
quite
large
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
hard
to
communicate
that
to
a
broad
audience
so,
rather
than
try
to
do
that,
what
I
would
do
is
I
would
have
a
reference
implementation
like
just
pick
one
metric
and
just
promote
that
one
metric.
You
know
you
could
you
could
say.
J
Would
say
that
most
of
the
communication
has
been
around
camp
and
some
of
the
specific
events
like
fungal
disease
or
staffing
and
trying
to
include
people
maintaining
the
handle
in
judo,
so
just
engaging
with
them
on
staff,
again,
unfortunately,
we're
in
the
last
moments.
Everything
have
a
lot
of
time,
so
any
more
from
this
Balkan.
In
any
case,
I
would
say
that
this
is
like
the
minimum
maintenance.
J
So
I
completely
agree
with
you
that
we
need
a
strategy
to
go
beyond
them
because
up
to
now
it
has
been
trying
to
engage
people
in
come
into
chaos,
town
trying
to
answer
questions,
and
not
much
more
than
that.
So
so
I
completely
agree
that
we
need
a
strategy
and,
and
somebody
with
with
tank
for
implementing
it.
J
A
E
A
A
B
A
A
J
Would
say
that
having
a
can
of
minimum
per
presence
in
Twitter
is
needed,
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
real
impact
of
trying
to
have
a
lot
of
thought
put
into
that
as
compared
to
I.
Don't
know
improving
the
metrics,
for
instance,
so
my
impression
is
that
you
know
you
need
to
be
there.
People
are
going
to
mention
you.
You
need
to
answer
to
me
that
they
are
suspecting
announcements
right,
the
nescau
scroll,
no
to
visual
phonetics.
Beyond
that,
honestly
I,
don't
know,
maybe
somebody
with
more
more
expertise
in
social
media
can
say:
okay.
A
Of
bandwidth,
right,
I,
think
that
was
your
point
and
where
that
band
with
this
spent
all
right,
hey
John,
in
that
in
the
strategy
thing,
you
can
kind
of
just
make
note
that
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
be
the
point
contact
to
try
to
feed
any
of
this
information
to
the
ls
visit.
The
Linux
Foundation
as
well.
D
H
D
H
A
J
J
Their
they
want
to
be
mother
and
what
I
try
to
do
is
to
retweet
anything
which
could
be
relevant
from
cows
and
all
the
way
around,
and
maybe
we
could
do
same
with
a
girl
and
at
this
some
of
the
working
groups
there's
some,
for
instance,
for
diversity
and
inclusion.
My
impression
is
that
they
have
a
very
specific
job
started
people
interested
in
them
that
could
be
interested
in
the
rest
of
calcium,
not,
but
if
they
are
received
targeted
information
and
content
to
time
some
general
information
from
cows.
Maybe
it
is
your
turn.
J
E
F
K
J
F
E
A
This
can
I
had
one
question,
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
the
folks
that
deal
with
a
lot
of
other
open
source
projects
or
have
dealt
with
other
open
source
projects.
A
lot
in
the
past.
Do
you
feel
that
we
need
to
recruit
more
people
into
the
working
groups
and
these
these
meetings
here
is.
This
is
kind
of
like
your
a
rule
thing
like
a
personal
judgment
metric
that
I'm
asking
for
here
you
know,
is
that
do
we
need
more
people.
K
So
I'll
weigh
in
okay.
From
my
perspective,
no,
we
don't
need
more
people
and
I
even
think
that
more
people
would
be
counterproductive
at
this
point
in
time,
because
we're
still
working
through
a
lot
of
foundational
things,
I
think
it
would
be
useful
to
have
more
people
once
we're
more
streamlined
in
terms
of
having
working
metrics
and
having
working
software.
But
until
then.
J
I
Just
gonna,
say
I
think
it
depends
on
the
working
group,
so
we've
lost
some
of
our
key
participants
in
the
diversity
and
inclusion
working
group
so
Sarah,
for
example,
no
longer
attends
and
she
was
a
pretty
key
participant.
So
we
just
really
don't
have
enough
people
to
define
the
metrics
that
we
need
to
define
so
I
would
say
in
that
working
group.
I
We
probably
we
probably
need
a
bit
a
bit
more,
especially
because
these
metrics
are
less
about
defining
the
software
are
more
about
figuring
out
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
measure
and
I
would
say
it's
something
similar
for
common
that
we
probably
probably
could
use
a
few
more
people
to
help
us
with
the
definitions.
The
metrics,
okay,.
J
J
F
J
Right
now,
what
we
try
to
do
is
based
on
the
experience
of
the
few
people
already
invented
matrix,
but
obviously
that's
that's
not
good
enough,
because
we
are
not
capturing
many
other
cases.
So
people
know
that
math
involved
in
the
working
book
like
that,
but
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
came
to
the
medians
and
I.
J
Think
that
one
of
the
blockers
is
that
right
now
many
people
think
that
to
read
in
they
need
to
come
to
the
Midlands
and
for
us
it
could
be
good
enough
if
they
just
write
a
couple
of
paragraphs
on
how
they
use
matrix
or
how
they
could
use
matrix
and
the
because
came
in
every
week
or
every
two
weeks
to
the
medians.
It's
a
lot
of
time
on
court
in
a
specific
points
in
time,
which
is
not
easy.
A
F
A
F
A
A
K
Anything
else
a
is
chaos,
does
a
really
nice
job
of
organizing
in
terms
of
having
protocols
and
procedures
for
meetings.
Things
of
that
nature
and
hats
off
to
you,
Georg
I,
think
you've
done
a
great
job
in
that
respect,
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
just
keep
investing
in
sort
of.
You
know
that
that
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
hand
productively
handle
more
and
more
people.
It's
not
easy.
A
J
F
J
What
is
great
with
the
google
Summer
of
Code
student,
and
we
have
right
now
the
first
completest
structure
for
implementing
the
I'm
a
poke
for
having
date.
The
complete
implementation
for
one
metric
and
I
have
a
one
question
which
is:
we
are
going
to
release
the
metrics?
What
do
you
want
to
do
with
the
reference
implementation?
Do
you
want
to
have
them
frozen
at
the
same
time,
which
means
they
are
not
ready
yet
or
we
can
with
wait
for
a
couple
of
weeks
when
I
expect
to
have
this
I'm
not
going
to
implement
it.
J
Message
with
respect
to
personal
in
the
model,
but
I
think
that
Frogger
is
very
likely
to
mean
so
basically
we're
eating
at
the
same
time.
That
is
now
or
are
we
waiting
for
a
couple
of
weeks
so
that
we
can
have
more
reference
implementations
in
this
time.
J
A
A
J
A
The
first
is
is
that
for
all
of
the
metrics
that
are
part
of
the
release
candidates,
they
all
have
some
indicator
of
a
reference
implementation
notwithstanding
DNA,
and
it's
not
always
the
case
that
both
grimore
lab
and
auger
are
serving
as
reference
implementations
for
that
particular
metric.
There
are
cases
where
both
grimore,
lab
and
auger
have
deployed
the
metric
and
I
think
there
are
cases
in
the
metrics
where
sometimes
it's
only
grow
up,
but.
J
I'm
talking
here
a
reference
implementation
in
with
very
specific
meaning,
which
is
not
this
is
implemented
in
over
of
Amara.
Yes,
this
implementation
would
be
was
built
specifically
according
to
the
definition
to
inform
the
definition
so
that
people
to
complement
the
dictation
so
that
people
can
read
the
code
in
can
look
at
the
details.
This
is
usually
different
of
how
our
goal
of
the
more
lab
are
implemented,
metrics
because
they
are
implementing
it,
a
support
of
a
much
wider
report
and
it's
not
easy
to
know
exactly
how
the
metric
is
computer.
J
So
that's
why
I
think
this
is
specific
to
the
evolution
working
group
up
to
now,
but
I
understand
what
they
mean,
and
what
do
you
mean
I
think
is
right
now
it's
a
part
of
the
description
of
the
metrics.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
part
of
the
videos,
because
we
already
have
that
into
the
description
of
the
metrics
yeah.
D
J
A
J
A
A
J
You
are
familiar
with
the
IETF
reference
implementations
for
internet
protocols.
It's
subtle,
it's
immediate!
So,
let's
not
having
something.
Maybe
that's
something
useful,
because
somebody
is
doing
an
application
with
it,
but
the
main
propose
is
to
show
how
the
protocol
is
implemented
in
this
way.
It's
the
same,
so
it's
like
if
you
get
this
metric.
This
is
the
way
it
is
computed.
So
if
we
apply
it
to
this
repository,
you
should
get
52
fifty-two,
for
instance.
Zero
is
your.
J
So
I
mean
at
some
point:
maybe
we
decide
so,
but
it's
a
it's
a
significant
amount
of
port.
Okay,
that's
why
what
I
was
trying
to
do
is
to
have
an
example
of
how
to
do
it
and
we
can
discuss
whether
other
working
groups
find
it
useful
or
not.
But
if
you
remember
what
we
are
trying
to
do
with
this
is
answering
this
problem
that
we
also
have,
which
is.
You
are
computing,
the
metric
in
some
way
and
computing
the
metric
in
some
other
way.
J
F
Going
back
to
the
original
question
whether
to
include
that
as
the
official
part
of
the
metric
release
or
not,
it
sounds
like
the
reference
implementations
will
not
all
be
ready
for
the
release
and
we
only
have
one
working
group
that
is
very
advanced
on
it.
Whereas
other
working
groups
don't
have
that
much
so
from
a
chaos
overall
perspective.
I,
don't
think
we
can
make
it
the
requirement
at
this
point
and
should
leave
it
optional.
So
I
would
vote
for
not
part
of
release
but
linked
from
the
metric.
Now.
J
I,
first
of
all,
I
assume
that's
not
going
to
be
a
requirement,
because
we
already
decided
that
my
question
is
even
if
we
are
going
to
consider
that
as
optional
in
the
sense
that
are
we
going
to
mention
this
support
of
the
release
at
all,
because
my
member
miss
having
only
couple
of
metrics
may
be
implemented
in
a
simple
working
group.
Maybe
it
could
be
distracting
for
the
coolest
I
would
say
and
because
it
would
focus
on
what
is
missing
or
something
like
that.
If
we
don't
include
this
reference.
F
Yeah
I
get
your
point
that
I
get
your
point,
that
we
seem
inconsistent
if
we
include
it
or
mention
it
why
we
use
that
if
we
included
in
some
and
not
others,
we
show
what
is
possible
and
we
will
make
clear.
This
is
the
very
first
release
of
metric,
and
if
someone
wants
to
have
it
more
on
reference
informations
on
other
metrics,
then
we
invite
them
to
create
it.
This
is
open
source,
it
will
always
be
incomplete
and
we
all
have
something
to
work
towards,
but
be
at
least
show
what
is
possible.
A
A
J
A
It's
a
very
I
mean
I,
think
of
release.
Implementations
I,
know
that
you're
thinking
about
it,
I'm
thinking
about
it,
with
particular
respect
to
the
pieces
of
software
grimore
lab
in
augur
like
as
as
things
that
I
kind
of
hold
right
and
being
able
to
tie
those
together
with,
say,
a
release
version
1.5
or
2-0.
By
saying,
not
only
do
we
have
these
metrics,
but
we
have
tooling
that
is
very
effectively
displaying
these
metrics.
That's
very
I,
just
don't
think.
A
J
So
we
go
with
the
area
on
my
church
that
we
mention
this
as
one
try
that
we
have
enough
having.
This
cannot
compel
reference
implementation
and
that's
something
that
maybe
in
the
future
work.
Twenty
three
meant
another
working
groups,
but
at
the
same
time
we
mentioned
that
the
metrics
have
are
referencing.
Other
implementation
say
during
in
Ramallah
or
al
ghul,
or
people
can
get
a
real
idea.
How
that's
also
implemented.
A
Yeah
and
I,
like
I,
said
I,
do
think
risk
and
value
have
this
on
their
radar,
so
I
think,
for
example,
in
Andy's
thinking
about
metrics
that
were
part
of
that
release.
Candidate
set,
it's
also
thinking
about
how
they
can
actually
be
implemented
in
in
real
life.
So
alright
cool,
that's
very
productive.
Thank
you.
Any
of
you
were
other
working
group
updates.
I
was
all
from
evolution,
I
think
under
the
auspices
of
evolution
all
right
well.
Well,
while
we're
in
working
group
updates
again
I
will
encourage
all
of
you
to
go.