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From YouTube: CHAOSS D&I Weekly Meeting - 11.5.18
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CHAOSS D&I Weekly Meeting
A
Perfect,
thank
you,
so
we're
recording
this
just
to
have
that
one
be
aware
of
this,
so
the
the
main
outcome
from
the
session
as
I
I,
see
it
as
validation
for
the
work
that
we
are
doing.
There
was
general
consensus
amongst
everyone
who
was
there
that
the
format
that
we
had
agreed
on
makes
sense
to
them
and
that
the
way
we
present
the
metrics
is
logical
and
the
structure
in
which
it
is
organized
is
useful.
B
A
B
D
C
C
B
A
E
C
I
think
we
should
look
at
let's
look
at
some
of
the
other
days
and
see
if
we
can
not
push
it
quite
so
late
into
the
European
evening,
because
that
that's
yeah
that's
pretty
late
for
for
Danielle,
and
it
does
push
it
until
6:30
my
time.
So
it's
kind
of
it
just
it
pushes
it
right
into
the
you
know.
Well
it
bumps
up
into
dinner.
For
for
me,
not
first
famous
those
cuz,
you
guys
eat
later
yeah.
B
B
Where
I
think
chaos
might
come
up,
there's
a
session
that
Danielle
and
I
are
participating
in
at
the
OpenStack
summit
in
Berlin
and
focused
on
the
importance
of
mentors
and
mentoring.
One
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
talking
there
about.
There
is
the
data
around
the
in
the
OpenStack
community,
around
mentoring,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
potential
of
our
work
through
the
tail.
This
group
coming
up
there
so.
E
Yeah,
so
so
one
of
the
things
we
were
doing
in
the
in
the
mentorship
panel
doing
the
open
source
I
meet
with
Jeff
robust,
introduce
chaos
a
community
to
the
people
there.
So
all
of
you
were
our
the
work.
We
were
doing
how
we
are
introducing
the
concept
of
mentorship
the
community
in
one
of
the
focus
areas
and
and
so
on.
So
at
least
we
can
do
that
for
surety
of
openness,
taxonomy.
A
B
A
E
No,
so
the
point
is
that
there,
so
we
Nicole
and
I
and
other
people
from
the
OpenStack
foundation
are
having
a
panel
on
mentorship.
So
one
of
the
things
we
can
do
is
at
least
we
try.
We
can
try
to
do
the
same
as
we
did
in
a
during
the
openness
during
open
source,
a
me
that
you
were
there
indeed
cured
and
foster,
and
basically
I
I
introduced
the
community
the
way
we
are
working
and
what
we
can
say
that
this
is
part
of
okay,
your
son,
okay,
perfect.
E
E
Some
of
us
has
access
and
they
remained
EA
for
data.
So
basically
we
can
understand
some
things
and
the
other
is
the
first
act
in
the
report
where
we
were
focusing
on
the
last
version
on
mentorship
and
this
version
it
happens
that
it
was
glued
on
whole
deal.
Basically
I
guess
that
Nicole
and
me
we
meet
in
a
dependence,
taxa
meet,
and
then
we
push
this
again.
We
move
this
forward
again.
So
I
know
if
you
are
referring
to
anything
else.
E
B
E
E
B
B
By
the
end
of
this
year,
and
so
when
we
were
talking
earlier
that
what
we
might
and
the
last
report,
the
last
report
that
we
published
we
were
trying
to
let
me
back
up-
we
were
trying
to
publish
these
around
so
that
they
would
coincide
with
OpenStack
releases.
Openstack
releases
are
planned
or
were
in
April
and
October
roughly,
and
so
each
April
and
October.
B
And
so
what
we
have
been
saying
is:
okay,
can
we
choose
to
make
these
reports
different?
Can
we
choose
specific
areas
of
focus
and
this
for
this
next
one?
We
were
thinking
well
what,
if
we
restructured
it
using
the
format
and
for
sure,
if
you
can
bail
up
through
the
workgroups
through
this
workgroup,
does
that
make
sense,
yeah.
B
Yeah,
so
that
so
that's
what
we're
that's,
what
we're
looking
at
the
other
thing,
the
other
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is
and
what
we've
been
talking
about
is,
and
this
gets
more
into
the
qualitative
that
we
did
talking
about
for
awhile
now
and
I.
You
know
treated
research.
We
have
been
able
to
identify
the
top
5
and
top
the
top
5
and
bottom
side
projects
with
the
greatest
and
least
amount
of
D&I
rightlook
levels
of
DNI,
and
so
we
thought,
wouldn't
it
be
interesting?
E
Yeah
indeed,
here
it
would
be
great
to
have
feedback
from
the
ptl's,
something
that
are
the
project
team
leaders
in
OpenStack
sure
it's
something
we
can
try.
Definitely
Nicole
this
discussion
to
be
out
of
this
meeting
right
now
to
discuss
directly
with
the
technical
leader.
So
we
got
some
feedback
and
in
terms
of
the
data
we
are
producing
and
we
find
some
interest
and
we
can
serve
this
with
the
community
because.
B
We're
trying
to
get
to
you
know,
so
these
reports
have
focused
on
the
the
way
or
then
the
numbers,
but
what
we're
trying
to
get
you
is
the.
Why
so
why?
Why
are
these
top
five
projects?
Why
is
they
been
able
to
attract
greater
diversity
within
their
communities?
Likewise
right,
equally
important,
please
bottom-5.
Why
is
that
the
case?
So
we've
we've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
go
about
that.
B
The
other
thing
this
isn't
really,
as
we
talked
about
upcoming
you
then
I
we're
starting
to
think
about
the
diversity
and
inclusion,
content
or
and
I
know.
This
is
a
ways
out,
but
for
the
open
court
summits
in
2019
and
what
theme
we
might
want
to
bring
out
there.
So
if
we
we
have
some
time
to
think
about
this.
Obviously,
but
it's
something
come
to
mind.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
of
collecting
input
from
our
team
sharing
feedback
back
in
for
organization,
for
the
diversity,
tract
or
diversity
of
Thomas
limits.
A
B
B
So
as
an
example,
the
importance
of
advocates
and
allies
in
a
topic
that
we've
carried
through
the
open-source
summit
in
North
America
in
Vancouver
and
through
to
Edinboro,
are
they're
seeing
what
their
subjects
like
with
the
diversity
and
inclusion
umbrella,
that
we
should
be
soliciting
from
the
larger
twofold
one
session:
submissions
from
our
team,
our
group
and
areas
in
topic.
Six
we'd
like
to
see
this
done
in
these
different
forum.
A
B
B
Just
for
my
perspective,
for
my
opinion,
yeah
I
think
that
it
would
be
good
to
keep
that
top
of
mind.
You
know
and
continue
to
talk
about
that,
and
you
know
we
will
have
some
new
refined
and
made
even
more
progress
by
then
talk.
I
I
think
that
would
be
something
valuable
and
I
think
it's
something
that
key
that
the
community
would
be
interested
in
as
well.
C
C
We
can
also
do
you
know
something
more
like
the
tutorial
that
we
did
at
a
Ricky
I
wish.
Probably
we
should
do
is
we
should
submit
both?
We
should
submit
a
tutorial
similar
to
what
we
did
at
the
open
source
summit
and
submit
a
panel,
and
then
we
can
decide
which
one
we
want
when
we
do.
The
selection.
E
Conference
I
had
so
I
had
to
follow
an
experience
in
a
dinosaur's
comments.
Let
me
know
what
you
think
that
maybe
this
might
be
interesting
for
a
for
a
session
at
the
kiosk,
so
we
are
basically
producing
a
writing
a
manifesto
right.
So
there
are
some
people
involved
in
the
manifesto
writing
process
and
then,
during
the
summit
we
were
a
member,
but
some
60
people
around.
We
split
the
manifesto
into
five
or
six
pieces,
and
then
we
put
everything
in
several
black
boards
and
what
we
were
asking
the
people
was
hey.
E
This
is
all
the
day
that
the
author's
definition
of
innocence-
please,
let
us
know
what
you
think
for
each
of
the
areas
and
people
were
basically
writing
down
their
thoughts
and
missing
items
that
they
had
or
the
feeling
about
walls
that
were
missing
from
the
manifesto
and
they
were
putting
everything
in
the
different
black
boards,
depending
on
the
on
the
split
a
really
a
decided
to
work
on.
So
one
of
the
things
we
can
try
we
may
consider
it
is
I
mean
it
was
so
successful
that
it's
something
we
can.
E
We
can
I
guess
we
can
reproduce,
and
people
felt
that
they
were
basically
helped
in
to
advance
in
the
manifesto
thing.
So
what
if
we
try
something
similar
you
know.
So
we
have
several
focus
areas.
We
have
several
questions
and
comments.
We
have
even
metrics
I,
don't
know
what
do
you
think
maybe
doesn't
make
sense
so
make.
E
Then
we
give
the
people
the
specific
Crichton
part
of
what
we
have
defined
as
government.
So
then
people
we
give
people
time
to
work
on
each
of
the
areas
or
the
focus
area.
They
want
to
work
out
and
then
they
say
well,
they
did
write
down
ideas
like
okay
focus
area,
government,
I,
think
you're
missing
this
area.
I
think
that
the
this
part
of
the
I
know
code
of
conduct
should
be
in
another
focus
area,
I
know,
but
then
we
leave
people
participate
in
somehow
it's
really.
E
D
E
D
C
C
Just
to
catch
em,
up
we're
talking
about
upcoming
events
and
specifically
we're
talking
about
what
we
should
submit
to
chaos
code
and
the
current
thinking
is
that
we
should
submit
a
panel
and
a
cup
and
two
different
types
of
tutorials
and
then
let
the
selection
committee
decide
which
one's
best
for
for
chaos
con.
Are
you
going
to
be
at
chaos,
con
Emma
for
Fossum,
I.
F
C
D
E
D
E
D
Just
I'm
trying
to
think
of
ways
to
connect
the
people
who
are
in
the
audience
more
directly
with
the
project,
I.
Think
one
of
the
problems
that
comes
from
running
these
workshops
for
ask
for
feedback
is
you
have
to
have
somebody
jot
all
of
that
feedback
down
and
then
feed
it
back
into
the
work
of
the
project
and
so
save
say.
For
example,
the
past
we've
collected
a
bunch
of
different
metrics
around
sage
growth,
maturity
and
decline.
D
You
get
the
idea,
georg,
is
taking
like
copious
notes
and
then
it's
hard
to
connect
those
copious
notes
back
into
the
project.
It's
the
voices
of
many
and
then
having
one
person
connect.
All
of
those
backs
is
a
little
tricky
sometimes,
but
if
the
members
themselves
could
create
those
connections,
even
if
it's
just
an
issue,
perhaps
there
would
be
a
greater
sense
of
ownership
to
the
project
itself
that
they've
actually
put
there.
You
know
they,
they
put
it
put
a
statement
out
there
a
little
bit
just
a
thought,
just
trying
to
connect
people.
What.
F
D
This
was
so
Daniel
had
proposed
a
kind
of
a
pink
panel.
They
would
be
talking
about
the
focus
areas
with
respect
to
DNA
yep
and
then
asking
people
to
kind
of
displaying
what
is
currently
this
state
of
the
art
with
respect
to
the
DNI
workgroup
and
then
asking
people
to
reflect
on
that
current
state
of
the
art
and
provide
either
feedback
on.
What's
already
there
or
provide
new
levels
of
depth
that
the
committee
hasn't
thought
about,
or
the
workgroup
hasn't
thought
about.
F
So
just
I
know
it
may
not
be
helpful
and
I
was
also
talking
to
the
24
pull
request.
Person
I've
been
talking
to
them
about
non
technical
code
like
non-technical
contributions
and
the
idea
of
like
checklists,
and
so
maybe
like
you
proposing
like
a
pull
request
and
but
maybe
there's
like
a
list
of
the
ten
things
that
you
can
do
to
contribute
this
project
and
that
might
be
as
simple
as
opening
an
issue
or
they
might
be
fixing
something
or
and
like
making
it
super
low-hanging
fruit.
F
G
C
A
One
of
the
things-
that's
not
quite
clear
to
me
right
now
is
what
the
format
is.
Is
this
something
where
everyone
sits
at
their
table
opens
their
laptop
and
then
works
digitally
or
is
there
something
where
we
use
the
physical
space
and
have
in
different
corners
of
the
room,
different
focus
areas
from
our
metrics
and
they
have
to
walk
there
and
leave
post-it
notes
on
the
wall
or,
what's
the
format
that
the
engagement
happens
in.
E
The
way
of
the
inner
source
Commons
was
that
what
we
didn't
care
about
ownership
in
that
case.
So
it's
a
bit
different
if
we
want
to
focus
the
ownership
in
this
case,
so
we
were
using
physical
in
depth
the
place
and
we
were
writing
down
some
pockets
and
putting
deposits
in
the
several
areas.
We
were.
We
wanted
to
participate
or
had
some
comments
about
that,
but
the
dorsal.
But
it's
true
that
in
that
case
we
will
then
want
to
foster
ownership.
C
C
You
know
all
three
of
those
four
Kaos
Khan
and
if
we
can
just
look
that
up
and
to
two
actions
that
would
be
I'd
be
good.
Does
anybody
in
particular
want
to
do
the
panel
or
the
tutorial
I'm
happy
to
do
one
of
one
of
the
two
I?
Don't
really
care,
which
one
is
the
panel,
the
more
interactive
one
like
potentially
sticky
notes,
because
if
that,
like
no
I
think
they
were
kind
of
separates,
I
think
the
panel
was
sort
of
like
what
we
did
at
cask
on
North
America.
F
F
C
C
So
as
long
as
one
of
us
sort
of
takes
the
lead
to
create
it,
we
can
all
contribute
to
it.
So
I
think
we'll
all
be
involved
in
all
of
them
and
then
the
other
piece
getting
back
to
Emma's
point
about
FOSDEM.
So
there's
a
community
dev
room
on
Sunday
and
the
submission
deadline
is
the
23rd
of
November
and
the
sessions
run
for
30
or
45
minutes,
including
QA,
so
I
think
it
would
probably
good
to
do
something
around
diversity
and
inclusion
there.
C
F
Or
panel
yeah
is
there
any
way,
because
the
thing
that
I'm
thinking
the
opportunity
of
being
at
Fossum
is
that
we
can
learn
a
lot
about
what
people
are
doing
or
the
struggles
they're
having
or
what
most
resonates
with
the
things
that
they
need
any
sort
of
format
that
allows
us
to
like,
like
collaborative,
more
collaboratively,
I.
Guess
like
we're
talking
about
the
tutorial
or
not.
C
Is
sort
of
chaos
in
that
the
the
rooms
are
really
tiny
impact,
absolutely
completely
full
of
people
and
not
everyone
that
you
want
to
come
to
your
session.
It's
going
to
be
able
to
actually
physically
get
in
the
room.
A
lot
of
people
get
turned
away,
so
I've
just
found
that
it's
not
a
great
forum
for
forgetting
right
feedback
that
it
tends
to
be
better
for
because
they
also
record
the
sessions.
They
actually
don't
want
a
lot
of
audience
participation
without
the
microphone.
E
C
I
could
do
some
joint
presentation
we
could
do.
Somebody
could
do
an
individual
presentation.
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
strong
preference.
I
might
submit
something
else
to
that
Deborah
him
I
haven't
really
I,
haven't
really
decided,
try
think
of
a
good
idea
for
it
outside
of
the
Doris
and
inclusion
space
yeah.
F
A
Then
Emma
we
were
thinking
about
changing
the
time
of
our
meetings
to
be
more
inclusive
and
allow
you
to
be
there
the
whole
time,
because
we
are
always
putting
things
and
the
beginning
of
the
third
session,
and
then
we
catch
you
up
and
I
mean
we
think
it's
valuable
to
just.
Have
you
there
for
the
full
session?
A
F
F
I
can
go
backwards
and
go
backwards.
I
didn't
go
earlier
in
time.
Okay,
like
it
doesn't
have
to
be
later.
My
my
team
meeting
is
from
8:30
to
9:30
my
time
right
in
this
meeting
starts
at
9:00,
so
I
could
do
7:30
to
8:30
like
anyways
I
know,
you'll
have
different
time
zone.
So
this
isn't
helpful.
There
you
go.
You
know
I
can
do
early
morning
meetings,
it's
not
a
problem
for
me.
Yeah.
B
B
F
F
C
A
F
C
F
H
H
A
A
C
C
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
I
was
I
was
thinking
that
too,
because
I
I
went
through
this
weekend
and
fixed
a
bunch
of
links
and
created
some
template
files
for
pages
that
we
didn't
have
template
files
created
yet
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
really
wanted
to
work
in
the
debris
water
work
as
pull
requests
in
the
repo
or
did
we
want
to
start
them
as
Docs
the
way
we
did
before
with
issues
to
say,
baby
I,
don't
really
care,
I'm
curious.
Let
the
easiest.
F
First
way,
because
if
we
ever
want
to
collaborate
just
quickly,
it's
harder,
I
think
and
then
we
kind
of
feel
like
it's
then
I
like
I,
like
the
process,
where
there's
a
document
associated
with
an
issue
that
was
reviewed
and
then
it
became
markdown.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
just
what
I
think
what
others
think
I.
C
F
The
other
thing
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
and
I
don't
know
when
we
prioritize
it
is
really
kind
of
have
a
strategy
for
citation
and
research.
That's
backing
up
that
document
and
I
know
that
Anita
had
originally
I
think
maybe
was
gonna.
Who
was
that
we
haven't
seen
her
in
a
while?
But
what
is
it
you
know
when
we
start
talking
about
these
metrics
at
a
conference?
We
start
saying
you
know
sometime
I
say:
where
did
you
get
that
from?
F
F
C
I
find
that
I
found
that
difficult.
That's
why
the
pages
that
I
did
had
nothing
in
the
resources
section,
for
example,
because
it
all
came
out
of
like
I,
did
the
events
section.
It
all
came
out
of
my
brain
based
on
stuff
I've
done
at
events.
That's
working
or
not
worked,
so
I
I
have
a
hard
time
with
the
citations.
The
recent
PhD
student.
F
C
F
F
H
B
B
B
A
F
Find
zoom
really
weird:
it
just
comes
and
goes
and
I
can't
I,
don't
know
if
snow
or
hit
coats
so
anyways
there's
a
slide
link
there
and
it
shows
basically
I've
added
two
three
bars
underneath
the
blog.
So
there's
the
working
group
there's
the
focus
area,
there's
the
focus
area,
goals,
the
methods,
tools
and
tactics
and
then
I'm
starting
to
talk
about
it
like
research,
citation
ethics,
consent
and
privacy
and
demographic
data
are
all
like
the
foundational
pieces
of
that
work.
So
because
I
found
people
are
like
so
where's
the
data.
F
And
how
are
you
so
I'm
trying
to
to
talk
about
this?
Being
that,
like
a
part
of
everything
like
there's,
a
citation
are
part
of
everything:
ethics
consent,
prime,
so
you're
part
of
everything
how
we
apply
demographic
data
and
or
part
of
everything.
So
if
that
graphic
helps
great,
if
it
could
be
better,
let
me
know
some
presents.
A
F
Been
through
the
fact
that
emma
does
not
have
design
skills
before
and
I
tried
to
do
that
in
the
the
letters
were
all
weird
and
ugly,
so
I
I
agree
that
that
might
be
better
was
not
able
to
pull
it
off.
Okay,
yeah!
If
you
have
suggestions
for
ways
to
do
that,
or
you
can
show
me
an
example
of
how
the
writing
could
be
I.
Think
enough.
F
F
Five
well
there's
a
link
in
the
agenda.
Okay,
that
says:
I'm
updating
how
she
talks
about
chaos,
organization
and
process
design
and
in
because
I'm,
having
I'm
doing
I,
have
to
do
presentation
later
this
month
for
inside
Mozilla
to
sort
of
talk
about
this
work
and,
like
you
know,
validate
our
you
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
hard,
but
it's
really.
F
People
have
a
hard
time
grasping
what
we're
doing
and
there's
so
many
moving
pieces,
and
this
was
from
like
the
slide
I
can
Edinburgh,
but
the
pieces
that
I
thought
before
were
those
three
horizontal
blocks
before
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
and
Garrick
was
just
saying
they
should
be
flipped
to
the
side.
But
then
I
was
like
I.
Don't
know
how
to
do
that.
F
And
hopefully
this
helps
us
all
start
like
so
please
hack
away
or
make
suggestions
for
what
make
you
it
help.
You
talk
about
the
value
in
the
work
you're
doing
inside
your
organization's.
I.
Think
that's
why
they
goal
for
all
of
us
right.
What
are
you
doing
over
there?
Oh
well
people
we're
making
math
standards
for
metrics
for
diversity
like,
but
what
does
that
mean
in
a
nutshell?
So
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
accomplish
here.