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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call June 20, 2023
Description
Meeting summary can be found here: https://chaoss.discourse.group/t/weekly-community-meeting-summary-june-20-2023/188/1
A
Foreign
hi,
everyone,
it's
June
20th
and
it's
Tuesday
and
you're
here
at
the
chaos
Community
weekly,
hangout
weekly,
call
whatever
we
call
it
quick
reminder.
This
is
part
of
the
chaos
code
of
conduct.
So
keep
that
in
mind
as
you
interact
with
us
and
if
you
don't
want
to
have
your
camera
on.
Of
course,
that's
completely
fine.
We
do
not
care
here.
We're
super
easy.
You
can
feel
free
to
just
chat
in
the
side.
A
Here's
the
minutes,
if
you
would
add
your
name
and
tell
us
if
you'd
rather
cook
at
home
or
eat
at
a
restaurant
and
I
realize
I
did
not
put
mine
in
here.
So
I
will
add
me
absolutely
eat
out
every
time
hands
down
hate,
cooking,
I'm,
terrible
at
it,
although
I
did
make
pork
chops
last
night,
which
is
great
for
a
vegetarian,
because
I
can't
taste
stuff.
So
it's
like
eat
at
your
own
risk
family
and
no
one
got
sick
and
no
one
died
so
I'm.
Considering
that
a
big
win
actually.
A
A
A
Yeah
Bean
Boozled,
that's
it
so,
like
you,
don't
know
what
you're
getting
and
sometimes
it's
yummy
flavor,
and
sometimes
it's
really
disgusting
flavor
like
grass
or
puke
or
spoiled
milk
or
something
so
it's
always
exciting
to
get
those
those
jelly
beans.
Yes,
birdie
bought
every
flavor
beans,
ooh
that
sounds
good,
then
yeah,
yummy
or
maybe
not
yummy,
as
the
case
may
be
jumping
into
our
to
actually
our
agenda.
We
can
do
stuff
today.
It's
fine,
we'll
talk
about
jelly
beans
all
day
this.
C
A
D
A
Oops,
no,
we
don't
need
to
replay
it.
Sorry,
okay,
oh
my
gosh
I'm
like
so
sad
I
missed
it
I
that
video
is
amazing,
like
I
wanted
to
be
there.
That
is
so
great,
so
I
know
they
had
some
professionals
come
in
and
work
on
that
video,
so
I
just
think
that
was
tremendous
use
of
the
money
like
that.
Just
blew
me
away.
So
congratulations
to
every
single
person,
I!
Think
there's
a
few
of
you
on
this
call
that
worked
on
this
on
the
conference.
It
just
looked
absolutely
wonderful,
yeah.
A
It
brings
a
little
tear
to
my
eye,
actually
like
I
I'm,
so
excited
that
that's
part
of
our
community,
like
oh,
my
gosh,
bisayo
I,
see
you're
on
here.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
the
event
you
absolutely
do
not
have
to?
But
if
there's
anything
you
want
because
I
know
you're
on
the
planning
committee.
So
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
just
say
about
the
event
as
a
wrap
up.
D
Actually,
hi
everybody
yeah
chaos,
coin
Africa
23
was
so
amazing.
We
had
so
many
brilliant
speakers
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everybody
that
worked.
Thank
you,
Elizabeth
for
all
the
work
you
did
and
helping
us
with
the
websites
and
everything
and
getting
everything
running.
Thank
you
to
all
us
because
I
think
we
have
some
of
them
here
we
have
effion,
we
have
Desmond.
They
spoke
at
chaos
from
23.
So
thank
you
guys
so
much.
Thank
you
for
all
the
money
spent
and
we
really
appreciate
it.
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
everyone.
Oh,
what
a
good
event.
It
just
makes
my
heart
Happy.
So
so
much
you
have
no
idea
so
awesome
job
to
everyone.
And
yes,
if
you
do
if
those
of
us
who
have
been
in
the
community
for
a
little
while,
if
you
do
see
some
more
newcomers
coming
into
the
channels
and
saying
hello,
please
welcome
them.
Please
make
sure
that
they
can
find
their
way.
I
know.
Mary
blessings
had
a
few
requests
for
tour
guides
and
so
yeah
just
everybody.
A
A
D
D
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
B
A
Okay,
perfect,
so
the
next
one
is
just
a
reminder
from
App
ecosystem
group.
I
think
they
do
have
a
meeting
today,
but
it
will
be
the
last
meeting
until
until
September.
So
if
you
had
planned
on
attending
that
or
were
curious
about
that,
you
should
come
today
or
you're.
Gonna
have
to
wait
so
questions
about
that.
D
E
A
We
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
cancel
all
the
meetings
two
weeks
from
now
so
there's
any
meeting,
then
our
bi-weekly
that
are
happening
today,
I.E
metrics
models
and
then
of
course,
ecosystems
already
taking
a
break,
but
just
two
weeks
from
now
there's
going
to
be
no
chaos
meetings
because
it
is
a
Us
holiday.
That's.
B
A
D
D
B
F
A
A
A
This
has
been
on
my
mind
for
a
while
and
kind
of
just
in
my
in
my
grand
plan
in
my
head
of
community
building
and
making
things
better
for
all
of
us.
I
really
want
second
half
of
2023
to
focus
on
this
issue
right
here,
of
better
surfacing
tracking
and
especially
recognizing
non-code
contributions,
since
they
are
such
a
huge
part
of
what
we
do
here
at
chaos
like
I
would
say
that.
D
A
A
One
example
of
a
community
that
does
do
this
well
is
the
Drupal
community
and
I
believe
they
have
a
system
in
place
where,
if
you,
if
you
as
a
person,
do
contribute
in
a
non-software
a
non-code
way,
you
can
open
an
issue
and
I
think
they
use
gitlab.
But
you
can
open
an
issue
and
essentially
you
know
assign
it
to
yourself
and
I.
A
Think
you
close
the
issue
right
away
and
it
gets
tagged
with
what
kind
of
contribution
it
was
and
I
think
that
that's
a
good,
a
good
starting
point,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
problematic
in
a
couple
of
ways
only
because
it
it
relies
on
the
person
to
kind
of
self-recognize
and-
and
that
seems
weird
for
some
people
to
do
that.
And
then
the
second
thing
that
I
I
kind
of
have
issue
with
is
that
it
gets
still
counted
as
a
code
contribution.
So
it's
still
going
through
a
PR
system.
A
It's
still
going
through.
You
know
some
kind
of
API
through
gitlab
or
GitHub
and
I
I.
Just
I
know
you
can
pull
them
out
and
and
separate
them
and
filter
them
based
on
labels
and
this
and
that.
But
if
you're
aggregating,
it's
just
going
to
look
like
a
code
contribution
and
so
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
a
good
solution
is
and
I
would
love
to
open
it
up
to
community.
So
I'm
gonna
stop
talking
and
see.
If
you
all
have
any.
A
C
Elizabeth,
yes,
yeah
I
think
we
discussed
on
this
issue
or
you
the
last
metrics
I
think
you
must
and
myself
we
had
a
discussion
on
this
I
think
Sean
was
also
in
that
call
I've
just
forgotten.
The
name
of
the
Matrix
I
mentioned
that
there
are
a
couple
of
techniques
that
we
could
use
to
capture
non-technical
contributions
using
natural
language
processing,
but
I
think
Sean
was
saying
that
the
existing
ago
tools
do
not
support
that,
but
if
we
still
want
to
go
ahead,
I
mean
I,
don't
mind
to
Mentor
any
person.
D
C
C
B
I
guess
my
building
on
this,
my
first
thought,
and
maybe
it's
a
question
for
you.
Elizabeth
is
like
what
would
be
maybe
a
first
thing
that
we
could
recognize,
as
opposed
to
saying,
we
recognize
all
all
everything
you
know
what
I
mean,
because
I'm
trying
to
balance
between,
where
we're
at
now
and
and
recognizing
absolutely
everything
like
on
a
daily
basis
and
just
the
amount
of
work
or
detail
that
that
would
require
to
do
that.
B
A
A
I,
just
I
feel,
like
those
kinds
of
contributions,
often
get
buried
and
they're,
not
really
we're
not
keeping
track
anywhere,
and
maybe
we
don't
have
to
but
I
just
kind
of
feel
like
I,
don't
have
a
good,
a
good
handle
on
how
many
contributors
we
have
helping
with
events
who
those
folks
are
consistently.
You
know
things
like
that.
We
don't
have
like
a
an
event
planning
team,
that's
really
in
place
every
time
and
when
we
kind
of
do
for
chaoscon,
but
it
changes
you
know
and
it
it's
not.
B
It
could
be
instead
of
like
chaotic
of
the
week
like
chaos.
Recognition
of
the
week
so
or-
or
we
could
just
say,
like
chaotic
of
the
week-
is
the
chaos
con
Africa
event,
organizing
team,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
we
recognize
the
entire
team
that
way-
or
you
know
something-
that's
still
just
it's
still
just
weekly,
but
the
chaotic
of
the
week
is
just
one
person
at
a
time
which
is
kind
of
it
would
take
a
long
time
to
recognize
everybody
it
just
that
was
a
just
a
thought.
B
A
I,
you
know
we
really
don't
and
we
don't
have
any
like
badging
on
slack.
We
don't
have
any
kind
of
anything
like
that.
All
that
stuff
is
available
in
discourse,
but
this
community
does
not
has
not
really
embraced
discourse,
as
as
we
thought
they
might
so.
I,
don't
know
if
it
like
I,
don't
even
know
if
half
the
people
in
in
our
slack
Community
are
even
on
discourse
but
discourse.
Space
is
super.
Easy
to
identify
and
recognize
and
give
badges
for
folks
is.
E
Something
similar
yeah,
perhaps
what
we
can
do
instead
is.
We
can
use
Matt's
idea
for
the
recognition
of
the
week,
but
we
have
actually
schedule
a
non-coding
AMA
specifically
on
discourse
and
then
use
that
event-based
ama
to
adapt
people's
use
of
discourse
and,
at
the
same
time,
allow
us
to
award
badges.
So
the
idea
would
be,
for
instance,
if
I'm
a
non-coding
member
right.
E
We
set
up
an
event
once
per
month
with
the
chaotic
that
has
been
identified
to
do
an
AMA
and
we
launch
it
as
a
post
on
discourse
and
then
everyone
comments
and
replies.
We
have
a
thread
where
I'm
actually
going
through
and
doing
those
answers
or
whatever,
and
by
virtue
of
that
discussion
we
are
accruing
points
based
upon
our
participation
and
you
can
award
badges
based
upon
what
points
go
where.
E
F
One
thing
we
have
done
in
slack
just
which
is
really
different
than
what
Beanie
is
talking
about,
but
we
at
VMware
we
have
like
a
shout
outs
Channel
which,
where
we
encourage
people
to
basically
thank
someone
for
for
something
awesome
that
they
they've
done,
and
we
could.
We
could
encourage
people
to
you
know
in
particular
recognize
other
people
who've
done.
You
know
non-esse
non-code
contributions,
I
suppose
we
could
use
it
for
everything
and
just
encourage
people
to
to
thank
other
people
for
doing
good
stuff.
There.
A
These
are
great
ideas.
These
are
really
really
great
ideas,
as
far
as
like
tracking
and
I
mean
surfacing
and
recognizing
I
think
is
separate
from
tracking.
So
does
anybody
have
ideas
on
how
we
can
better
track
those
contributions
and,
like
you
know,
Trends
over
time
like?
Oh,
we
have.
We
don't
have
as
many
people
helping
with
events
as
we
did
last
year.
So
maybe
we
need
to
focus
on
building
that
team
out
more
that's
what
I'm
kind
of
talking
about
like.
A
We
would,
with
regular
code
contributions,
make
sure
you
have
enough
contributors
to
kind
of
sustain,
but
like
that's
only
for
the
code,
so
how
do
I
track
these
non-code
contributions
so
that
I
know
I,
have
teams
or
people
working
on
things
that
are
keep
it
sustainable.
These
little
mini
projects
that
we
have,
because
we
have
so
many
so
many
in
chaos.
F
And
now
grimmar
lab
tracks
a
lot
of
stuff.
That's
not
not
necessarily
code,
like
you
know
you
can
put
in
stuff
from
from
slack
and
other
other
tools.
I'm
honestly
I
haven't
looked
at
that
part
of
gorilla
lab
for
a
while,
because
I
think
we're
mostly
using
it
at
VMware
for
code
contributions,
but
I'd
be
curious.
Maybe
to
talk
to
that
team
and
see
see
what
they
have
and
see
if
there's
anything,
maybe
interesting
that
they
could
that
they
could
come
up
with
that
might
be
based
on
some
other
stuff
that
they've
done.
B
D
A
And
again,
the
only
reason
to
kind
of
track.
These
contributions
is
to
have
a
better
Insight
of
hey
who's,
who's
kind
of
working
on
what,
and
also
do
we
have
enough
folks
to
sustain
a
mini
project
within
the
product
within
within
chaos,
for
instance
an
event
or
like
the
badging
website,
or
the
badging
program
like.
D
E
A
Stuff
manually,
while
I
do
the
Badgers
manually,
but
it
would
be
great
if,
if
not
everything
was
manual,
it
was
manual.
Maybe
it
has
to
be
I,
don't
know,
maybe
it
should
be,
or
maybe
it
comes
down
to.
We
have
many
team
leaders
that
track
like
they
take
it
on
themselves,
to
track
and
and
who's
on,
the
team
and
who's
active
and,
like
all
of
that
and
then
just
kind
of
report
back
and
we
keep
like
a
high
level.
A
A
Yeah
definitely
I
feel
like
too.
At
one
point,
Rose
had
started
a
doc,
just
a
dock,
that
kind
of
just
kept
a
list
of
people's
names,
and
then
it
was
kind
of
like
the
Drupal
idea
of
what,
where,
if
you've
contributed
something
submit
a
PR
to
add
your
name
to
the
list
and
then
it
does
get
counted
in
in
that
way
into
the
GitHub
API.
B
From
my
perspective,
it
seems
like
surfacing
the
like
recognizing
seems
a
bit
easier
at
the
moment,
something
that
could
be
built
out
in
these
variety
of
different
ways.
Today
tracking
seems
a
little
bit
more
complicated
to
me
not
to
not
do
it,
but
would
probably
require
a
bit
more
work
and
a
bit
more
thought.
E
I
I
honestly
kind
of
disagree,
because
I
think
that
a
lot
of
these
features
require
metadata,
not
anything
more
complex
than
that
really.
So,
if
we
can
Implement
for
our
tracking,
like
user
specific
Kudos
features
where
a
specific
Emoji
is
tracked,
if
we
can
use
like
specific
categories
and
hashtags
on
posts,
we
can
identify
which
categories
and
hashtags
are
coding
versus
non-coding.
E
We
can
also
use
bot
features
like
you
were
talking
about
a
shout
outs
Channel.
Instead
of
doing
a
shout
outs
Channel,
you
can
have
a
reporting
channel
for
anything
that
people
plus
one
or
do
something
like
that.
Then
the
slash
command
will
just
post
it
into
that
channel.
So
it's
more
Community
oriented.
So
it's
not
about
Elizabeth
shouting
things
out.
It's
about
users,
doing
it
naturally,
and
then
it
just
shows
out
the
map
Channel.
E
A
E
E
E
A
A
You
know
because,
honestly,
the
when
I
I
choose
the
chaotic
of
the
week
based
on
things
that
I
see
but
I,
don't
see
everything
you
know,
and
so
I
will
that's
why
I'm
kind
of
like
what
am
I
missing?
What
what
what's
happening
like?
Who,
who
are
the
people
in
the
newcomers
channel,
for
instance,
who
consistently
welcome
other
newcomers
that
I'm
not
seeing
because
I
I
missed
it?
You
know
and
like
that.
That's
what
I
want
to
surface
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
appreciating
and
recognizing
the
folks.
C
E
Really
like
kind
of
meta
to
this
discussion,
chaos
is
definitely
dealing
with
a
lot
of
burdens
of
growth,
specifically
when
it
comes
to
the
burden
of
attribution,
which
is
as
discussions
and
conversations,
get
larger
and
larger
and
larger
individual
contributions
become
harder
to
manage
and
understand
and
I.
Think
that's
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
so
adding
some
structure
that
allows
us
to
compile.
E
Those
automatically
is
going
to
require
that
we
offload
that
work
from
Elizabeth
and
the
easiest
way
to
do
that
is
automations,
but
the
second
easiest
way
to
do
that
and
something
that
I
think
we
should
consider
is
actually
establishing
additional
admins.
So
a
community
team
that
Elizabeth
can
coordinate
as
admins
for
the
slack
in
the
discourse
Channel.
A
A
A
A
A
I
think
probably
did
Benny.
Did
you
put
this
down
in
here
the
community?
Okay,
we
we
did
just
move
to
async,
so
I
I
mean
we
didn't
disband
completely,
but
we
just
took
the
meeting
off
the
calendar,
the
sync
meeting
off
the
calendar,
but
we're
you
know
we
can
still
work
async.
That's
probably
easiest
for
you,
maybe
also
to
not
have
to
have
that
regular
kind
of
commitment
and
burden
on
your
calendar.
It's
every
every
day.
Every
week,
yeah
I
will
say
so.
A
For
those
who
don't
know,
we
had
a
Communications
working
group
that
we
worked
on
for
quite
a
while
and
then
it
just
we
just
all
got
busy,
and
so
we
said
you
know,
let's,
let's
just
go
async
but
yes,
I've
been
using
Coast
schedule.
That
is
what
I
use
exclusively
so
yeah.
It's
awesome,
I
appreciate
it.
They.
E
They
brought
back
the
Twitter
integration
and
it
wasn't
enough
to
bring
their
customers
back
so
they've
had
a
pretty
significant
reduction
in
user
base.
So
I
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
do,
but
there
are
now
better
tools
in
the
wake
of
that
I
don't
know
we'll
discuss
it,
I
still
really
like
co-schedule,
but
it's
struggling
great.
E
A
D
A
All
right:
well,
everyone
gets
an
extra
10
minutes
back
in
their
day
to
go.
Do
whatever
you
want,
you
can
just
do
a
little
dance
party
you
can
go
outside.
You
have
a
cup
of
coffee,
whatever
would
be
the
best
for
you
to
reclaim
your
10
minutes.
Thank
you
again
to
everyone
who
came,
especially
our
new
faces.
Welcome,
welcome
we're
really
happy
to
see
you
hopefully
we'll
see
you
here
again
next
week
same
time
same
place
and
we'll
see
you
later
on.