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From YouTube: CHAOSS Weekly Community Call August 9, 2022
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A
B
A
C
We
can
okay,
okay,
good
yeah.
A
Add
your
name:
let
us
know
what
the
weather
is
going
on,
where
you
are
right
now,
so
that
I
can
feel
envious
of
people
who
have
way
better
weather
than
I
do
sophia.
I
think
I'm
with
you,
it's
like
just
oppressive
today.
It's
not
good,
it's
not
good
and
on
two
yeah,
but
hopefully
the
cooler
weather
is
on
the
way
for
for
everyone,
maybe
who
knows
or
warmer
weather,
if
you're
someplace,
where
it's
chilly,
who
knows
welcome
to
the
people
who
just
joined.
A
Let's
drop
the
minutes
in
here
for
them
there
we
go.
Please
add
your
name
and
the
weather,
because
those
are
things
that,
like,
I
think,
are
interesting.
Probably
nobody
else
does,
but
I
think
they're
interesting.
So
we
have
a
couple
of
items
from
last
week.
A
A
So
we
had
these
two
documents
and
they
were
kind
of
a
mess
and
we
decided
we
brought
it
up
in
the
dei
and
the
common
working
groups,
and
we
decided
that
maybe
we
should
combine
these
two
documents
and
build
off
of
some
work
that
the
cncf
has
done
in
in
regards
to
the
contributor
ladder.
I
think
they
call
it
is
that
right,
dawn,
yeah,
she's,
nodding.
Okay,
so
I
took
the
action
item
to
try
to
pull
them
together
and
get
some
kind
of
draft
ready
to
share
that.
A
We
can
then
work
on
because
I
think
it
was
a
little
overwhelming
for
us
as
a
community
to
kind
of
jump
in
and
start
making
changes
to
these
documents.
So
that's
where
it
stands.
If
this
is
something
that
you
care
about
and
you're,
not
at
the
dei
or
common
working
group,
let
me
know-
and
I
will
send
you
the
link
and
you
can
obviously
give
your
your
two
cents,
because
we
would
really
like
a
lot
of
eyes
on
these
two
documents
and
just
for
the
record
here.
A
They
here,
they
kind
of
were
just
to
refresh
people's
memories.
On
this,
and-
and
you
know
some
of
it's
still-
okay,
but
some
of
it's-
maybe
not
as
accurate
or
as
as
you
know,
maybe
it
could
read
a
little
easier,
read
a
little
better
and
and
kind
of
match.
This
idea
of
a
ladder
shift
contributor
laddership,
is
that
right.
A
A
Matt
g
still
out
this
week,
so
we'll
we'll
pounce
on
him
when
he
returns
and
demand
an
update
of
all
of
his
action
items,
I'm
just
kidding.
We
won't
actually
do
that
yeah.
We
didn't
really
have
much
else
going
on
last
week.
We
did.
We
discussed
this
code
spaces
sean.
Is
there
anything
to
add
on
that
for
this
week,
totally
fine.
C
A
Okay,
cool
so
new
items,
let's
just
jump
right
here.
Everyone
needs
to
give
a
huge
congratulations
to
armstrong
for
defending
his
thesis,
and
now
we
will
call
you
dr
foundjem.
A
A
A
A
All
right,
the
next
item,
probably
the
biggest
topic
of
conversation,
welcome
you
hoy,
even
though
it's
now
like
10
past
midnight,
your
time
in
china,
we
really
appreciate
you
staying
awake
to
discuss
this,
so
I'm
going
to
just
turn
this
over
to
you,
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
because
I'm
assuming
you're
probably
going
to
want
to
share.
So
let
me
see.
B
B
Yeah,
I'm
already
sharing
my
screen.
Can
you
see
it
yeah?
Okay,
great
yeah?
So
the
basic
background
is
here,
so
we
would
like
to
build
a
public
service
search
platform
for
open,
open
source
community
health
networks
based
on
the
kills
matrix
model,
and
this
comes
from
the
the
little
background
story.
B
The
getty,
which
is
the
largest
largest
code
hosting
platform
in
china,
and
the
cto
of
this
getty
came
to
me
and
to
to
say
they
are
looking
for
complete
and
evolved
matrix
model
system
to
help
help
the
open
source
projects
and
community
managed
by
the
getty.
You
know,
as
you
know,
at
least
on
this
document
documentation
here
in
kt,
they
have
managed
over
like
15
million
project
in
this
platform.
B
So
in
the
past
they
already
called
they
already
have
some
metrics
used
for
all
the
metric
for
all
the
projects
under
this
platform
called
getty
index
to
check
the
health
of
the
each
of
single
project,
but
they
think
they
are
old
or
legacy
getty
index
is
not
that
and
I
mean
meaningful
to
help
people
to
continue
to
monitoring
their
their
project
health
status.
B
So
here
we
have
a
problem
here,
so
we
would
like
to
build
this
platform,
which
is
public
for
all
the
projects
which
is
host
hosted
on
the
github
gt
and
gitlife,
and
also
the
chaos
matrix
model
should
be
the
only
entry
point
or
only
source
of
the
sus
matrix
model,
so
which
means
all
the
matrix
model
would
prove
provided
by
by
chaos,
and
the
goal
is
that
at
least
here
at
least
some
summer
goal.
B
So
the
first
goal
is,
as
you
know,
that
I
from
the
last
year
in
august
last
august,
we
start
this
matrix
model
working
group.
We
are
working
together
to
build
some
new
ideas
about
to
focus
on
some
scenarios
of
story.
You
the
stories
of
the
existing
in
the
real
world,
open
source
community,
to
see
how
to
build
a
matrix
model
which,
combined
with
exists
the
chaos
metrics
and
to
help
hospitals,
people
or
to
help
community
managers.
These
people
to
to
figure
out.
B
B
Health
of
the
community,
but
but
we
also
have
some
difficulties
to
face
like
we
really
need
to
platform
to
help
us
to
make
it
deployed
and
to
be
used
badly
by
by
the
different
people,
come
from
the
different
community
projects
or
projects.
B
So
we
have
this
infrastructure
problems
so
here,
as
gates
start
like
collaborating
with
with
us.
So
we
can
use
this
chance
to
broadcast
our
matrix
model
to
overcome
these
challenges
and
then
to
help
us
to
build.
This
kills
matrix
model.
So.
C
Sorry
there
we
go
so
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
this
this
initiative
would
allow
anyone
to
come
and
sign
up
and
say
these
are
the
met.
These
are
the
repositories
I
want
to
see
metrics
models
for-
and
this
is
a
proof
of
concept
that
could
be
reported
or
made
available
via
open
source
through
chaos,
so
that
anyone
who
wanted
to
stand
up
something
like
this,
which,
right
now
it
has
gremore
lab
at
the
back
end.
If
I'm
not
mistaken
this,
this
will
make
a
sort
of
a
platform
available
to
more
people.
B
And
as
I
mentioned,
yes,
as
shane
mentioned,
it's
built
by
guru,
maharaj
as
backhand
and
and
in
the
current
phase,
but
it's
not
limited
to
one
background.
It's
also
too.
You
know
too
compatible
with
other
platform
back-ends
like
like
auger
or
in
the
future,
many
other
platforms,
so
the
infrastructure,
the
whole
structure.
We
we
design
for
this
sus
platform,
it's
not
banned
to
any
single
background,
but
in
order
to
make
our
poke
solution
quickly
deployed
and
very
forward,
we
choose
group
my
virtual
screen
map,
which
is
I'm
more
from
familiarize
it.
B
So
I
can
help
the
whole
progress
going
forward
quickly
and
and
also
here,
the
other
some
goals.
As
you
can
see,
that
the
circle
is
the
point
of
the
problem,
the
gate
platform,
people
they
want
to
pay
to
to
solve.
I
can
to
build
better
insight
tools
for
for
the
projects
they
host
and
and,
as
you
know,
that
we
built
a
lot
of
matrix
model
right
now
and
in
the
future.
B
So
currently,
we
have
some
milestones
here,
some
we
already
achieved
and
some
we
planned
in
the
future
in
the
near
future.
So
we
we
already
got
and
the
whole
apocalypse
structure
design
finished
later.
I
will
show
the
whole
structure
to
you
and
we
already
deployed
some
matrix
model.
We
contributed
to
the
chaos
like
community
activity
and
the
infrastructure
setup
is
ready
and
in
current
phase
we
are
going
to
to
doing
the
whole
front
and
the
design
work
and
deep
and
the
deployment
work.
B
So
this
work
is
ongoing
and
which
is
friendly
and
also
more
matrix
model
will
be
verified.
As
I
mentioned,
all
the
matrix
model
will
be
verified
and
with
selected
kd
over
consultant
projects
and
some
projects
selected
from
github
projects
and
in
the
september
this
year
we
are
going
to
do
some.
We
are
going
to
pre-launch
this
service
to
our
other,
to
some
small
scope
of
people.
B
B
First,
who
would
provide
infrastructure
support
so
currently,
getty
getty
would
provide
the
infrastructure
fully
support
and
also
we
consider
some
other
support
from
other
companies
or
from
other
organizations.
B
It's
welcoming
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
some
other
meeting
in
pacific
or
matrix
model
meeting,
I
also
mentioned
that
my
my
company
huawei
also
would
like
to
contribute
some
infrastructure
support.
If
they
such
our
platform,
is
going
to
extend
it
in
the
future
and
in
current
phase,
who
would
provide
such
desire
and
deployment
and
maintain
work.
B
So
currently
the
chaos
people
from
us
myself
and
the
trinity,
and
with
that,
and
also
the
people
from
getty
they
provide
for
engineers
almost
40
times,
work
on
the
whole
sus
design
work
together
with
us,
and
before
I
mean
the
before
the
starts
pre-launch
or
the
first
awesome
lunch.
B
I
think
this
working
team
scope
would
be
fixed,
but
the
purpose
of
that
we
just
need
to
make
the
whole
progress
going
forward
quickly
and
in
the
future.
We
would
like
to
more
people
from
from
chaos
to
work,
to
contribute
to
this
service,
because
I
would
like
to
mention
it
later,
because
all
the
solutions
related
to
the
cells
will
be
open
sourced
and
we
would
like
to
con
contribute
to.
Chaos
include
front
and
solution,
and
also
some
back-end
solution.
C
B
So
who?
What?
What
is
the
service
present
eyes
and
this
the
this
size
platform
would
be
served
as
a
webpage
service,
similar
like
rfx
insights,.
B
B
We
are
going
to
support
github
and
gt,
firstly
in
the
first
solution,
but
in
the
future
work
we
are
going
to
support
it
with
basically
the
good
life
so
who
can
apply
the
data
inside
of
projects
at
the
beginning,
and
we
we,
we
think
the
people
who
have
ownership
of
our
project,
like
maintainers
or
community
managers,
could
apply
these
data
insights
on
these
services.
B
And
how
would
we
manage
technology
as
located
in
china
or
locate
any
elsewhere?
So
we
have
two
phases
in
in
phase
one.
We
deployed
service
located
in
china,
but
even
it's
in
china.
The
service
is
available
for
for
the
people
all
over
the
world.
It's
just
it's
not
just
the
limited
people
who
locate
in
china
in
phase
2.
B
And
does
it
only
support
volume
like
by
kind
solution,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
and
at
the
beginning,
based
on
my
background,
I'm
more
I'm
more
familiar
with
google
mic,
and
so
we
start
from
groundwater,
but
in
the
future
we
are
not
going
to
find
you
know
only
one
by
cut
we
are
going
to
find
more.
We
are
open
for
more
background,
like
alker
and
many
other
by
kind
solutions.
B
B
B
This
is
what
we
choose
right
now.
This
is
english
name
and
we
have
our
chinese
name
chaos
inside
cairo
and
which
could
be
translated
to
chaos
inside
open
source
index.
C
So
that
that
does
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
initiative
yahui.
Is
there
any
comment
that
people
have
on?
It
is
everyone,
I
guess
what
questions
do.
People
have.
D
A
D
A
B
C
D
C
D
Our
team
that
has
built
cauldron,
which
is
also
built
on
grimoire,
lab
as
a
software
as
a
service,
because
I
I
think
there
might
be
some
challenges
along
the
way
that
you
may
have
already
solved,
or
you
have
different
approaches
to
solving
it.
So
I
would
love
to
connect
this
project
with
our
cauldron
team
and
see
if
we
can
learn
from
each
other.
D
So,
do
you
have
a
prototype
that
you
can
maybe
show
us.
B
B
So
it's
not
running
this.
Is
this
infrastructure?
It's
this
whole
structure
is
designed
already
and
to
to
see
how
to
see
how
it
works
of
this
of
this
service.
So,
basically,
and
and
here
is
the
front
and
solution-
and
in
the
in
the
right
part,
we
choose
the
grid.
B
We
deployed
groom
vibe
as
a
class
into
the
as
node,
and
we
also
use
the
c
module
to
to
take
in
control
of
the
data,
fetching
analysis
and
clean
and
after
and
all
the
data
would
would
be
stored,
stored
in
the
open
search.
This
database,
and
also
we
are
gonna,
have
a
new
module
called
open
matrix
model
which
used
to
integrate
the
matrix
model.
B
We
contribute
on
the
chaos
matrix
model
working
group,
so
all
the
mechanism
and
the
metrics
exist
this
in
this
matrix
model
would
be
implemented
and
deployed
under
this
module
and-
and
also
as
I
mentioned,
this
new
module
would
be
contributed
to
the
chaos
at
the
fourth
as
part
of
solution
of
the
whole
service
and
in
the
in
the
left
part
and
it's
and
it's
used
to
to
fat
change
the
result
of
the
matrix
model
to
be
connected
to
the
the
new
gate
index,
which
means,
as
I
mentioned,
the
in
current
current
phase,
getty
have
their
own
matrix
model,
can
called
gate
index
and
in
the
future
they
would
like
to
use
the
matrix
model
result
deployed
on
this
service
and
imported
into
the
all
the
imported
into
the
gate.
B
B
B
B
As
soon
as
possible
on
this
service
to
be
which
to
could
make
this
model
be
verified
quickly,
to
see
how
it
works,
does
it
really
help
the
people
from
the
community,
and
also
we
consider
how
to
use
the
data
we've
collected?
B
They
could
use
this
data
to
to
get
more
deep
research
based
on
the
big
metrics
model,
and
on
this
part
we
may
I
we
may
need
to
create
a
new
terms
of
the
service
and
also
the
provide
provide
privacy
terms
about
how
to
use
this
data
to
making
sure
there's
no
personal
information
linked
from
the
service
yeah.
The
last
support
I
know
we
need
to
get
support
from
from
from
from
community
that
how
to
broadcast
this
service.
C
B
Actually,
we
already,
we
also
have
some
collaboration
from
the
people
in
china
like
tencent.
By
do
these
organizations
also
the
people
from
some
universities
like
taking
beijing
university
and
also
nanjing
university.
D
Is
this
is
amazing,
I'm
super
excited
to
see
what
you're
putting
together
here
now
you,
you
shared
a
couple
of
questions
and
it
sounds
like
many
of
them
have
been
answered.
What
does
something
that
you
are
currently
struggling
with
or
working
through,
where
we
everyone
here
on?
This
call:
can
one
can
help
with.
B
Yep,
I
missed
the
one
things
we
need
to
decide
the
domain
of
this
service.
You
know
gideon
has
just
released
the
chaos
dot
omg
and
they
are.
They
are
willing
to
contribute
this
domain
name
to
our
community,
so
they
would
like
to
choose
insight,
dot,
chaos,
dot,
org
and
the
service
name,
because
we
have
decided
as
soon
as
possible
so,
but
I
still
mentioned
inside,
could
get
some
misunderstanding
with
the
error
effects.
C
C
I
think
I
think
if
we
use
insights,
whoever
met,
I
don't
remember
who
mentioned
it
first,
but
I
think
that
will
create
some
confusion
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
launch
a
new
example
service
or
whatever
we
call
this
we're,
not
a
company.
So
it's
not
a
new
product,
but
whatever
it
is,
we
don't
want
to
launch
it
and
have
it
be
confusing
to
people
probably
probably.
A
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
sure
so
I
know
a
part
of
this
is
to
verify
the
metrics
models
that
we
think
makes
sense
to
us.
A
Is
there
a
way
or
will
there
be
a
way
for
people
to
kind
of
pick
and
choose
their
own
metrics
and
like
make
their
own
metrics
models,
or
are
we
kind
of
just
like
boxing
them
into
here's?
This
one
package
you
can
get
or
this
package
of
metrics
for
this
package
of
metrics.
B
And
that's
really
good
question
because
I
think
if
we
pick
up
some
of
the
metrics
together
to
let
people
to
fret
freely
to
choose
select
some
magic
existing
kills,
which
means
this
side
of
matrix
have
to
create
some
meaningful
things
like
to
help
some
people
based
on
some
youth
story
or
scenarios.
B
That
is
magic's
model.
We
would
like
to
you
know
to
to
mixing
combine
item
or
work
diets
integrated
isometrics
model.
First,
and
even
we
have
we
don't
have
time.
We
don't
have
a
resource
resources
to
improve
the
if
it
works
or
not
we
can
deploy.
There
is
a
beta
matrix
model
on
this
service
to
let
people
to
verify
if
it
works
or
not.
B
But
I
I
don't
think
in
the
our
first
version
to
let
people
freely
to
choose
any
any
side
of
the
matrix
or
chaos
metrics
to
to
to
you
know
to
create
their
own
customize,
the
matrix
mod
on
the
service
directly.
We
have
to
making
sure
we
we
got
some
discussion
under
in
our
community
or
in
our
matrix
model,
working
group
to
say,
okay,
it's
it
makes
this
at
least
we
can
make
it
available
as
a
beta
version
on
the
service,
and
then
we
can
deploy
it.
As
you
know,
that
infrastructure
is
it's
costly.
A
And
then
that's
excellent.
Thank
you.
Yahoya
looks
like
georg
also
is
a
lot
in
alignment
with
that
as
well.
Based
on
his
experience,
one
other
quick
question
for
models,
and
maybe
we
won't
include
these
kind
of
models
at
the
beginning,
but
for
models
that
do
include
data
that
is
not
available
through
an
api
are
those
are,
I
guess,
are
like
down
the
line
like
we.
We
can't
handle
those
yet
so,
okay,.
C
A
C
I'm
just
putting
some
notes
from
the
chat
in
here
that
georg
made,
because
I
think
they're
they're
helpful.
You
know
that
offering
only
a
small
set
of
things
early
on
is
going
to
limit
confusion
and
also
when
you
limit
confusion,
you
limit
support
requests.
When
you
limit
support
requests,
you
move
towards
sustainability.
I
think.
A
A
C
The
optimal
my
opinion
is,
the
optimal
solution
would
be
that
at
least
a
placeholder
repository
for
this
work
would
be
created
under
the
chaos
org,
and
they
could
just
include
a
link
in
the
dashboard
for
people
to
open
an
issue
inside.
A
D
C
Or
it
could
be
a
it
could
be
a
guinea
repo,
I
think,
for
people
in
north
america
in
europe.
The
getty
interface
is
a
little
harder
to
digest,
just
because
some
of
it's
in
chinese,
but
you
know
where
they,
where
you
direct
people
or
even
if
you
open
an
issue
using
an
api
in
a
form
on
the
on
the
site,
it
doesn't
matter.
I
think
I
mean
I
think,
just
having
a
place
to
cash.
These
kinds
of
things
will
be
important
exactly.
B
Exactly
so
in
my
first
thinking,
I
would
like
to
the
people
from
from
getty
and
the
people
from
from
my
my
team,
and
you
know
in
my
team,
my
house.
I
have
three
or
four
people
working
together
with
me
and
could
could
provide
such
service
at
the
first.
You
know
stage,
but
we
cannot
provide
this
seven
plus
724
support
at
always,
but,
as
you
mentioned,
we
would
like
to
provide
some
communication
channel
in
erslike
and
also,
as
you
know,
that
we
would
like
to
contribute
our
solution.
B
C
C
Yeah,
absolutely
absolutely,
but
in
the
in
the
short
term
I
think.
As
long
as
we
have
a
place
to
cue
things
up,
it
still
puts
the
entire
burden
on
the
team
at
giddy
and
yu
yahui,
and
until
the
software
is
open
source.
But
at
that
point
then
you
get
a
much
larger
group
of
folks
who
would
be
able
and
willing
to
help
troubleshoot.
It
yep.
C
B
You
make
current
work,
we
we,
we
have
already
set
up
our
organization
on
github
the
people
from
getty
and
people
from
my
team,
working
together
on
on
the
solutions,
including
the
codes
code,
implementation
and
also
the
we
have.
Actually,
we
have
two
meetings
every
week
to
sync
up
the
whole
working
process
and-
and
I
think
in
the
future,
on
in
the
in
september,
when
when
we
think
the
the
pork
solution
of
the
whole
service
is
ready,
we
are
going,
we
are
going
to
pre-launch
it
and
try
to
try
to.
B
You
know
open
up
to
some
scope
of
people
to
try
to
try,
try
to
use
it
and
and
the
in
the
in
the
future.
In
after
it's
launched,
we
are
going
to
contribute
the
whole
solution
to
the
chaos
and
after
that
I
think
we
need
to
you,
know,
organize
it
either
as
a
community
work
together
with
other
people
at
the
euro.
We
host
it
on
on
the
kills,
no
matter
through
the
community
meeting
or
our
matrix
model
meeting.
We
can.
We
can
discuss
related
topics
around
these
stories.
D
B
We
have
actually,
I
have
discussed
with
the
people
from
this
from
getty,
especially
the
cto
of
gt.
Actually,
he
had
support
agreed
on
support
that
they
would
contribute
the
whole
solution
to
the
chaos
on
github,
and
they
also
would
mirror
up
the
solution
on
gt.
So
all
the
main
solution.
All
the
solutions
relate
to
the
story
code
commit
and
the
issue
and
the
pull
request
would
happen
on
github,
but
they
would
like
to
sync
up
the
solution
on
kt.
B
C
B
A
Do
we
want
gertie.
C
D
B
Because
we
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
contribution
and
collaboration
together
on
the
chaos
in
the
past
two
years
and
we
love
the
work
and
the
collective
and
people
in
this
community.
So
that's
why
I
would
like
to
you
know,
get
more
support
from
china
and
involve
more
people
from
china,
working
together
with
our
community,
to
making
our
community
getting
better
and
better.
A
A
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
we're
almost
out
of
time.
Sadly
yahoo.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
this
work
and
all
of
this
coordination
and
just
the
thought
that
has
gone
into
it
is
absolutely
wonderful
and
I'm
super
excited,
like
everyone
else,
to
see
how
it
kind
of
unfolds
and
whenever
it
sounds
like
you
are
you
kind
of
are
on
a
roll
with
your
group,
so
whenever
you're
ready
for
more
people
or
if
you
need
support
from
us
by
all
means
like
make
sure
that
you
know
you
reach
out
and
and
ask
some
specific
requests,
if
you
have
specific
things
that
you
need,
I
need.
A
A
Yay,
I
think
we
only
had
this
is
great
and
any
anybody
has
any
other
comments.
We
can,
you
know
talk
about
this
again
next
week
or
please
come
to
the
metrics
models,
if
you're
able
to
make
that
that
topic
will
also
come
up
there.
A
So
please
feel
free
to
join
that
meeting
as
well,
and
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
real
quickly
before
we
leave
is
that
if
anybody
is
going
to
be
at
chaos
con
eu
and
if
you
have
live
streaming,
knowledge
and
experience,
we
would
love
to
have
you
share
that
experience
with
us
and
help
us
out
in
that
capacity,
because
I
think
it's
just
pretty
much
shawn
and
matt
g
who
are
gonna,
try
to
be
doing
this
and
they
also
have
other
things
to
do
at
the
conference.
A
So
so
we're
really
looking
for
some
support
there.
I
think
all
the
other
support
folks
that
usually
do
this
are
not
able
to
attend
the
conference
this
year
so
yeah
if
you're
going
to
be
at
kscon
eu-
and
you
know
how
to
do
this
stuff-
please
reach
out
to
matt
shawn,
if
you're
able
to
help
out
with
that.
So
I
think
that's
it
for
now
yeah.
I
think
we're
good.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
end
the
meeting.
Everybody
have
a
great
day.
Thanks
again,
you
hawaii
for
all
your
work
thanks.