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CHAOSS.Community.Feb.11.2020
A
A
So
in
the
the
minutes,
I
have
a
few
things
that
I
put
on
there.
Obviously
people
can
add
things
as
they
see
fit,
but
I
always
like
to
hear
me
get
these
out
in
front
of
folks
I
guess
we
can
just
start
at
the
beginning
and
when,
as
I
brought
the
goal
setting
so
last
week
we
had
talked
about
goal
setting
for
2020
and
gearing
you
had
dropped
a
few
items
in
there
as
well
and
I've.
Just
so
folks
know,
I'm
also
asking
the
same
question
to
the
chaos
board.
A
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
overlap
here,
I
think
sometimes
between
board
members
are
saying
and
kind
of
what's
occurring
here
so
trying
to
gather
all
of
those
ideas
collectively.
So
here
do
you
want
to
talk
through
any
of
the
things
you
put
in
here?
I
can
talk
through
some
of
these
items
as
well.
Yeah.
B
B
But
as
we
are
aging,
we
will
see
more
turnover
and
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
write
down
how
the
chaos
project
works
and
make
sure
we
communicate
that
more
clearly,
because
the
chaos
project
as
a
whole
has
become
a
lot
more
complex
than
when
we
started
three
years
ago,
and
maybe
even
writing.
The
handbook
gives
us
a
chance
to
reflect
on
how
we
are
currently
working
and
improve
the
processes
that
we
do
have.
So
that's
that's
the
idea
behind
the
community
handbook.
B
A
C
A
A
You
can
see
there's
a
but
coming,
but
it's
more,
it's
it's
more.
So
how
do
we
like
produce
a
handbook
and
make
that
be
the
clear,
clear
thing
that
people
would
gravitate
to
to
participate
in
the
chaos
project?
That's
that's
the
point.
Cuz
we
have
that
nice
participate
page,
which
I
think
is
pretty
clear.
So
it
connections
with
that
or
don't
that's.
E
A
F
F
While
we're
waiting
on
Brian
I
guess,
the
question
is
I
mean
I.
Think
I
think
couple
of
things
that
come
up
so
far
I
mean
one
is
I
mean.
Is
this
sort
of
a
landing
page
for
contributors?
That's
one
purpose,
and
the
other
is:
is
this
more
of
a
more
for
the
internal
audience
where
our
processes
are
documented
right?
So
people
know
like
you
know
how
you
supposed?
What
are
the
steps
that
you
go
through
to
plan
chaos
gone,
for
example,
as
Georg
mentioned,.
F
Sorry
but
I
think
those
are
like
two
different
things.
Like
one
I
mean
if
we
have
a
participate
page
through
as
a
landing
page
for
new
contributors,
that's
one,
but
you
know
Garriga,
were
you
thinking
more
there's
sort
of
an
internal
like
a
documentation
so
that
you
know
what
these
people
get
involved
in
the
community?
They
know
what
to
expect
when
chaos
con
is
coming
up
or
etc.
B
A
So
it's
when
you
say
like
chaos,
cotton,
it's
for
when
new
people
start
taking
the
lead
on
it.
They
just
understand
kind
of
the
processes
that
have
been
or
perhaps
working
with,
say,
community
bridge
butter.
What
are
our
current
convoluted
processes
to
get
money
moved
from
point
A
to
point
B?
Is
that
or
google
Summer
of
Code
or
outreach
e
or.
G
You
know
it's
my
mic
working
now.
Yes,
one
sorry
yuzu,
so
it
wasn't
set
right,
so
yeah
I
guess
some
of
this
you
kind
of
already
covered
while
I
was
doing
my
settings
but
really
I
think
getting
to
like
the
point
of
what
this
handbook
is
supposed
to
do,
because
a
lot
of
communities
that
we
work
with
have
something
like
this.
G
But
it's
used
for
different
reasons
like
sometimes
it's
an
onboarding
document
which
it
sounds
like
what
you're
gravitating
towards,
but
sometimes
these
things
are
governance
documents
which
basically
boils
down
to
who
do
I
go
to.
If
there's
a
problem
or
something
like
that,
so
I
think
having
the
end
goal
in
sight.
Are
you
setting
up
a
governance
document?
Are
you
setting
up
an
onboarding
document,
I?
Think
that
would
probably
kind
of
reflect
what
the
final
product
will
be.
B
D
Just
dropped
a
couple
of
links
in
the
chat
with
so
the
contributor
site.
I
didn't
realize
it's
not
quite
live
yet,
but
there's
like
in
a
repository
which
has
some
of
the
details
and
in
particular,
there's
a
getting
started
section,
that's
quite
robust
and
then
I
also
linked
to
other
things,
because,
as
we
were
talking
georg
was
mentioning
like
you
know
how
we
do
chaos
con
and
things
like
that.
D
So
there
are
two
areas
that
we've
done
a
lot
of
documentation
around
the
the
roles
and
how
to
do
the
things
that
we
do
around
events
so
organizing
the
contributor
summit.
So
it's
got
some
role
handbooks
in
there
and
then
some
handbooks
for
what
it
takes
to
put
together
the
release
team
and
what
each
person
does.
Maybe
those
would
give
you
some
ideas
for
four
headings
and
categories
was.
D
H
A
F
Yeah
I
think
in
general,
a
lot
of
open
source
projects
I
mean
rather
than
calling
them
hand
books.
Maybe
they'll
have
them
like
a
different
sections
in
their
wiki
pages,
but
in
addition
to
like
events
like
chaos,
con
I
can
think
of
other.
Like
examples
like
you
know,
how
do
we
do
releases
right
like
what's
involved
and
and
I
mean
I
think
we
can
probably
come
up,
but
I
mean
you
know
three
to
four
topics:
we're
more.
We
can
get
get
started.
F
F
A
Mentorship
might
be
like
how
do
we
do
that?
How
do
we
new
kiosk
on
our
events,
honestly
community
bridge
and
finances,
might
be
worth
kind
of
articulating
its?
That
is
a
far
from
smooth
at
the
moment,
but
it
works,
and
so
maybe
to
Georg.
This
point
is:
is
when
we
write
these
down,
we
realize
how
convoluted
hey
they
in
fact
are
and
then
the
last
one
when
IO
releases,
so
maybe
that's
the
three
to
four
things,
all
right
cool
helpful.
Thank
you
kind
of
on
this
list
still
clarify
strategy
for
kiosk
on
air.
A
B
But
when
I
talk
about
strategy,
it's
mostly
thinking
about
the
European
conference,
because
we
hit
the
limit
on
the
room
that
we
were
in
and
we
actually
will
have
to
downsize
to
60
people.
If
you
wanted
to
stay
in
that
room
due
to
changes
at
the
menu,
and
so
the
question
is,
do
we
want
to
grow
the
event
more,
which
I
think
we
have
potential
to
do
it?
B
D
A
F
D
D
A
So
so
one
of
my
thoughts
on
opens
her
summit.
North
America
is
like,
after
being
at
the
Gascon
Europe.
The
the
selection
of
people
is
so
vastly
different.
I
mean
they're,
just
they're,
so
different.
So,
as
you
all
know,
is
a
Linux
Foundation
event.
It's
kind
of
a
self-selecting
group
of
people
that
attended
that
event
and
obviously
was
sustained
and
followed
him
in
chaos
come
in
between
it
was
just.
It
was
super
different
and
I.
Just
it's
an
observation.
J
D
Personally,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
kind
of
cool
that
they're
they're,
two
very
different
events,
but
we
do
need
to.
We
do
need
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
in
mind
when
we're,
organizing
and
selecting
talks,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
kind
of
fun
that
the
the
one
in
Europe
feels
more
kind
of
old-school
grassroots
community.
Well
as
the
one
with
open
source,
it
feels
a
little
more
SPO.
A
F
A
F
I'm
thinking
like
I
mean
chaos,
gone
registration
is
pretty
minimal,
but
to
come
the
open
source-
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
regular
price
is,
but
it's
not
cheap
right
that
so
that
sort
of
excludes
a
lot
of
people
and
I
mean
people
are
spend
a
week
in
in
Brussels.
But
I
mean
you,
don't
really
pay
any
registrations
for
any
of
those
events
right
so
yeah
I
mean.
F
K
The
difference
the
the
content
of
it
sold
ago
and
I
I
think
I
I,
don't
think
I
ever
made
it
to
the
US.
Once
of
the
chaos
cons,
I
I
was
only
in
in
Brussels
a
couple
of
times,
so
is
it?
Is
it
only
content
and
audience
that's
different,
or
also
the
format
of
the
events
like
what
you're
doing
there?
We
are
doing
there.
C
A
A
L
A
M
A
D
A
M
The
presentations
were
all
good,
but
I
think
something
that
was
kind
of
missing.
That
we've
had
in
Prior
conferences
are
the
kind
of
the
the
working
group
sessions
where
we
were
actually
kind
of
getting
work
done.
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
that
going
going
forward,
maybe
kind
of
similar
to
the
way
sustained
in
some
of
their
sessions
and
the
way
that
we
did
them
early
on
in
the
the
chaos
chaos
cons
and
the
events
we
had
at
the
North
America
summit,
mm-hmm.
A
G
A
M
A
C
G
You're
gonna
need
to
have
a
bigger
room.
I
mean
I,
like
a
singletrack
deal
of
chaos
done
I
kind
of
wish.
The
North
America
summit
was
our
meetings
were
more
like
EU
in
terms
of
atmosphere
and
communication
and
networking
I
like
that
single
track
approach.
Okay,
but
you
you
physically
need
a
bigger
room.
Okay,
that
would
be
the
only
thing
I
would
change.
Maybe.
F
B
M
D
Spot
like
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
want
it
to
be.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
big.
Okay
and
getting
at
Kevin's
point
I.
Wonder
I,
wonder
if
we
should
think
about
just
doing
some
working
sessions
around
the
open-source
summit,
North
America,
where
maybe
we
can
get
a
meeting
room.
You
know
just
like
a
small
meeting
room
or
two
and
the
people
who
are
interested
can
like
not
not
during
chaos.
Calm,
because
I
feel
like
I,
feel,
like
the
presentations
are
pretty
useful,
that
chaos,
Khan
and
I
feel
like.
D
It
brings
more
awareness
to
the
chaos
project,
but
I
do
wonder.
If
maybe
we
should
just
do
some
some
working
sessions.
We
could
do
it
like
you
know.
Maybe
there'd
be
some
space
on
on
Friday.
Even
we
could
stay
for
an
extra
day
and
just
do
some
spend
a
day
hacking
on
Kaos
stuff
that
would
look
like,
but.
A
H
D
M
M
D
B
A
Right
cool,
so
I'll
also
do
a
little
bit
of
digging
just
in
Brussels
to
see
what
other.
Just
you
know,
an
assortment
of
options.
Maybe
I
mean
honestly
for
those
of
you
that
were
sustained
I
like
that
place
as
well,
and
there
there
are
breakout
rooms
down.
I
never
went
into
the
basement,
but
apparently
there
were
rooms
down
there.
Well,
so
I
have
no
idea
how
much
that
cost,
but
that
would
be
easy
enough
to
find
out.
D
A
M
A
A
A
E
A
Right
so
Georg
and
Ildiko
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
Steve
Winslow
from
the
Linux
Foundation
about
what
a
program
like
this
might
look
like
and
we're
meeting
we're
meeting
again.
I
think
this
Friday
was
Steve
and
maybe
Mike
Dolan
might
join
in
as
well.
It's
just
kind
of
what
this
might
look
like
so
I
think.
Suffice
it
to
say
we're
exploring
this
idea
and
we
can
bring
information
forward
as
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
articulate
and
refined
in
weight
that
can
be
shared
with
people
Georg
Rael
dikko.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything.
A
A
So
obviously,
as
a
lot
of
you,
as
you
all
know,
the
metrics
releases
he
basically
kind
of
on
a
six-month
cadence
which
used
to
be
in
line
with
the
conferences,
but
now
that
one
of
the
conference's
moved
two
months
earlier,
the
cadence
got
off
a
little
bit.
So
the
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
moving
away
from
just
a
twice
yearly
kind
of
a
twice
yearly
approach
towards
a
working
group
being
able
to
release
a
metric,
but
doing
this
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
still
I.
A
Think
people
can
correct
me
if
I'm
getting
this
wrong,
but
still
twice
a
year.
We
would
have
kind
of
an
official
like
a
large
release
of
all
the
metrics
that
we
could
and
I
send
a
signal
that
we're
moving
forward.
But
as
common
or
or
risk
would
like
to
release
metrics,
they
can
do
so
kind
of
each
the
shorter
the.
A
M
B
G
Sounds
like
a
good
idea:
I!
Don't
given
the
fact
that
I
don't
recall
any
of
the
new
metrics
even
being
discussed,
I
cast
on
to
you,
I'm
yeah
I'm,
not
sure
why
we're
tying
into
the
effects,
especially
since
the
events
and
metrics
releases
are
all
slamming
together.
At
the
same
time,
kind
of
stress,
with
travel
already
is.
G
Know
I
agree,
I,
don't
know
if
you
should
discuss
them,
but
I
know
they
weren't.
So,
therefore,
why
are
we?
Why
are
we
making
earths
ourselves
crazy
and
I'm,
not
saying
adjust
it
two
more
times
a
week
a
year
or
even
do
a
rolling
release.
I
mean
you
could
do
still
twice
a
year
and
just
pivot
off
the
event.
So
doing
it
opposite
times,
if
you
wanted
to.
If,
if
you
still
want
to
maintain
a
regular
cadence
but
I,
don't
personally
have
a
problem
with
a
rolling
release
strategy
either.
A
B
A
G
L
Cool
finally
also
helped
to
balance
the
speed
at
which
one
working
group
is
advancing
against
the
other,
because
some
working
group
might
release
faster
following
the
release.
When
you
are
ready
to
go,
some
might
be
a
little
bit
slower,
so
the
two
year
the
two
releases
per
year
will
help
to
balance
this
catch-up
commute
because
not
only
literally
not
all
the
working
group
will
be
releasing
lesson
speed
in
peace,
I.
M
C
C
The
six-month
cadence
kind
of
prevents
that
so
we
can
treat
it
like
an
I
mean
it
should
go
through
the
same
kind
of
rigorous
process,
but
perhaps
there
I
guess
just
creating
a
mechanism
where,
if
a
working
group
has
some
things,
they
really
want
to
get
out
there
and
there's
there
are
reasons
for
that,
especially
I,
guess
I'm
thinking,
mostly
from
the
risk
perspective.
There
are
no
metrics
that
I
think
are
useful
to
the
Linux
Foundation
between
now
and
our
next
scheduled
release
that
if
we
could
release
them,
it
would
be
helpful.
H
C
There's
some
a
lot
of
activity
in
that
that
real-time
operating
system
and
safety
critical
system
space,
where
being
able
to
get
a
metric
officially
released
through
some
process
sooner
than
our
release
cycle,
not
necessarily
as
routine,
would
be
helpful
right
now.
We
just
don't
have
a
way
to
do
that.
Maybe
that's
a
better
way
to
frame
the
question
that
came
up
I'm.
C
A
A
B
So
this
is
a
conversation.
I
know
we
had
in
Vancouver
and
before
since,
on
how
can
we
get
more
specificity
into
the
metrics
that
we
define
so
there's
only
a
certain
level
that
we
can
get
to
with
our
definitions,
because
the
metrics
are
very
sensitive
to
the
context
they're
used,
everyone
use
them
a
little
different
interprets
them
a
little
different,
and
so
how
do
we
get
those
stories
and
those
experiences
out
and
to
others
who
want
to
start
using
metrics?
B
And
we
have
discussed
in
the
past-
writing
blog
posts
or
asking
people
to
write
blog
posts
and
I
know
we
have
strategy
for
that.
But
it's
kind
of
big
ask
of
people
who
are
already
busy
and
so
I
keep
coming
back
to
this
idea
to
run
interviews
and
basically
podcasts
and
invite
people
on
to
the
podcast
who
have
experience
who
are
doing
metrics
so
that
we
can
start
sharing
those
stories
and
then
we
can
use
those
podcasts
and
the
minutes
of
foundation
for
blog
posts
for
those
who
just
want
to
read
about
it.
A
So
I
I,
like
the
idea
you
and
I
chatted
about
this
near
Ford
I,
like
the
idea
or
not
blog
post,
like
the
idea
of
podcasts,
so
I
think
they're
they're,
fairly
from
a
interview
perspective,
fairly
easy
to
run.
If
you
were
to
do
them,
you
have
experience
doing
interviews,
so
you
have
skills
in
that
regard.
C
A
I
think
and
I
also
I
mean
based
on
kind
of
what
I
have
seen
after
Kaos,
Khan
and
Europe,
and
just
kind
of
following
threads
on
Twitter
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
we
could
reach
out
to
with
pretty
low
overhead
to
just
talk
about
their
experience.
Whether
it's
in
the
project
within
the
cast
project
might
be
an
interesting
podcast
or
how
the
metrics
are
using
our
being
used
to
in
an
organizational
setting
how
the
metrics
are
being
used.
Like
kind
of
you
in
a
scientific.
C
C
A
B
B
G
G
A
G
A
A
What
that
consideration
looks
like
a
little
like
earlier
to
I'm,
not
entirely
release
cadence,
what
that
looks
like
I'm,
not
entirely
sure,
but
in
the
general
we'll
take
away
from
from
the
comment
talk
was.
This
is
probably
something
that
we
shouldn't
be
talking
about,
just
in
common,
probably
something
that
has
an
impact
to
the
project
as
a
whole.
All
the
pieces
of
software
and
the
metrics
so.
D
Yeah
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
was
you
know.
Maybe
we
want
to
put
together
some
sort
of
best
practices
guide
for
using
metrics
that
talks
about
gdpr
and
talks
about
people
being
able
to
delete
their
DNA
data
if
they
want
to
it.
Talks
about
you
know
not
necessarily
having
to
collect
personally
identify
a
fireable
data
or
not
store
it.
Ethical
concerns
with
using
the
data,
maybe
we'll
put
some
something
together,
so
that
we're
not
just
delivering
metrics
we're
talking
about
like
ethical
uses
of
them.
A
D
C
Think
I'll
just
I'll
just
raise
this
as
a
as
a
recognizable
risk
of,
but
of
course
we
want
to
comply
with
laws
when
people
use
tools
they
want
to
know
which
of
the
folks
working
on
the
projects
are
actually
doing
things,
and
so
is
in
our
role
to
define
how
the
tools
and
the
metrics
are
used
and
and
I.
Think
ethically.
We
should
make
us
it's
useful
to
make
a
statement
about
that,
but
also
not
to
pretend
that
projects
aren't
going
to
keep
their
own
internal
stuff
with
identifiable
information
like
I.
M
D
B
I
think
that's
what
some
people
will
be
looking
for
as
they
come
to
chaos
and
look
at
the
metrics
and
try
to
build
out
the
case
for
start
using
metrics
within
their
organization
or
community
that
they
also
will
necessarily
be
asked
about.
Okay,
what's
the
ethics,
what
does
privacy
are
starting
to
do
this?
How
do
we
handle
this,
and
so,
if
they
can
find
a
one-stop
shop
at
chaos,
then
they
can
be
equipment
for
looking
answers
to
the
questions
they
will
be
facing.
A
M
A
C
D
M
D
So
we
need
to
talk
about
in
a
document
like
this,
but
I
think
it's
it's
not
privacy
policy
like
we're,
not
we're
not
making
people
adhere
to
anything
it's
just.
These
are
the
things
you
need
to
think
about.
These
are
the
ethical
considerations.
This
is
maybe
maybe
some
guide
rails
that
you
might
want
to
hold
your
project
to,
as
you
gather,
data.
C
Okay,
sorry,
yes,
I'm
less
conflating
the
two
now
there's
a
there's.
A
lot!
That's
been
thought
about,
obviously,
by
a
lot
of
people:
I,
don't
I'm
sure
each
of
us
probably
knows
somebody
who's
done
work.
Thinking
about
this
I'm,
one
colleague
in
Copenhagen,
Irina
shlonsky,
who
does
Facebook
posts,
called
the
daily
creepy,
where
she
you
know,
identify
some
current
in
the
news
way
that
data
is
data
about
people
like
this
is
not
being
used.
C
Both
beings
in
a
creepy
way
and
I
think
I
think
him
I,
don't
think
all
of
us
would
necessarily
even
think
of
the
creepy
ways
to
use
this
data
or
the
inappropriate
ways,
but
maybe
maybe
there's
someone
in
this
group
who
could
speak
to
that
and
help
us
get
started.
So
Georg
has
offered
I
think
I
care
a
lot
about
this
issue
as
well,
because
I
I
collect
a
lot
of
data
about
people,
so
you
know
I.
A
I
think
I
had
when
I
wrote
that
extra
minute,
maybe
just
like,
even
what
the
headings
of
that
document
might
be
as
simple
as
that.
Okay,
thank
you,
Georg!
Thank
you.
Everybody
feedback
on
that
I'm
gonna,
skip
software
updates
for
just
a
second
here.
Did
I
bring
up
the
potential
to
have
one
East
Asian
community
call
per
month,
I've
had
attendance.
You.
C
A
A
A
What
would
people
think
of
of
me
like
using
one
of
these
Tuesday
calls
to
do.
An
international
meeting
obviously
did
I
bring
this
up
last
week.
I,
don't
remember
at
all
I
either
think
about
these
things.
In
my
head
or
last
thing
we
did
talk
about
it.
Oh
we
did
okay,
so
it
wasn't
just
me
me
myself
and
I
conversation.
A
A
Don't
mind
doing
it
would
just
be
very
early
in
my
morning
and
it
would
probably
be
a
very
short
meeting
because
it
would
just
be
an
update
meeting
most
likely
or
should
I
actually
think
about
using
one
of
like
one
of
the
Tuesday
slots
and
just
canceling
the
meeting
on
a
Tuesday.
So
you
know
say:
I'm
canceling
this
meeting
but
actually
running
it.
D
M
D
M
D
F
J
C
C
D
D
A
Right
cool,
thank
you.
Everybody
just
in
terms
of
events,
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know.
Let
me
add
a
few
acceptances
to
the
member
summit.
So
Sean
and
I
had
talk
accepted.
That's
gonna
talk
about
the
badging
program
and
also
the
work
that's
being
done
in
risk.
So
it's
a
the
talk
is
about
how
to
bring
metrics
into
practice.
So
how
do
we
get
them
and
what
I
talked
about
a
kiosk
on
in
Europe
the
concerns
of
metrics
living
alone?
But
how
do
what
are
the
efforts
were
doing
to
get
them
into
practice?
A
L
D
A
A
L
L
A
Then,
lastly,
the
just
because
we're
running
out
of
time,
just
in
terms
of
the
mentorship
stuff,
so
the
google
Summer
of
Code
application
is
in.
We
have
not
heard
you
know
how
they
do
the
organizational
awards
like
they,
they
announce
the
organization's
I,
don't
think
those
have
been
announced
yet
so
thank
you
for
everybody
for
putting
together
the
list
of
proposed
ideas
and
the
associated
microtasks
with
them,
and
then
for
outreach
e
that
has
so
Georg
more
than
me,
Eric
and
I
spent
time
in
a
Twitter
event.
A
Earlier
today
it
was
just
about
introductions
with
mentors
and
mentees
and
alums
from
the
outreach
program.
Yeah
okay
I
had
suggested
that
we
just
duplicate
the
google
Summer
of
Code
ideas
for
our
ricci
outreach
is
only
gonna,
be
one
mentee.
That's
because
that's
all
the
funds
that
we
have
for
so
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
do
a
couple
changes
that
I
think
we
need
to
do.
One
is
the
issues
assigned
with
the
micro
tasks
kind
of
looking
at
it.
You
Shawn
for
the
augur
stuff,
yeah
yeah
yeah.
A
C
A
A
So
that's
that
and
then
another
thing,
Oh,
Georg
I,
think
what
would
you
think
about?
You
know
how,
like
the
people,
the
potential
many
TVs,
don't
love
that
table
about
the
work
that
they
have
done,
yeah?
What
would
you
think
about
adding
a
column
that
says
you
know
program
applying
to
google
Summer
of
Code
or
al
Ricci.
B
Thinking
about
having
two
separate
she's
or
two,
that
would
be
fine
too,
so
the
question
I
have
is
which
one
is
easier
for
the
student
students
to
tease
out
okay,
I
think
if
we
have
one,
here's,
how
you
apply
to
Google
Summer
code
and
then
enter
is
easier
than
which
program
do
you
want,
and
then
you
have
to
select
them.
Okay,.
A
Well
to
then,
we
can
sort
that
out
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
So
those
are
just
the
things.
I
think
there's
just
a
little
logistical
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
to
at
one
point
and
combine
these,
but
it
one
point
keep
them
separate
mm-hmm.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
everybody's
input.
I
certainly
appreciate
it
and
it's
good
to
see
everybody.
You
know
talk
to
y'all
soon.
Sorry
should
also
you.