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A
All
right
welcome
to
the
august
10th
2021
chaos
weekly
meeting.
So
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
get
started?
We
have
a
few.
It
looks
like
a
longer
list
than
I
think
it
really
is
on
the
agenda.
So
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
these
are
going
to
take
too
long.
So
just
in
terms
of
yeah
and
feel
free
to
add
anything
that
you
would
like
to
add
as
well.
Metrics
freeze
kevin.
How
are
we.
B
Doing
on
that,
are
we
we
are
not
in
the
freeze.
Currently,
the
freeze
will
start
september
1st.
C
B
And
we
will
have
a
30-day
review
period
and
then
the
the
new
metrics
will
be
released
in
the
first
week
of
october.
Okay,
so
this
was
actually.
This
was
actually
discussed
several
months
back,
okay,
and
I
believe
that
was,
I
believe,
the
the
moving
the
release
back
a
month
was
shawn's
idea
yeah.
However,
I
thought
that
never
got.
C
B
So
every
time
I
every
time
I
talk
about
it,
I
always
say
we're
released
in
the
first
week
of
october
and
then
I
I
saw
on
the
chat
that
georg
had
mentioned,
that
we
were
entering
the
freeze
and
I'm
like
wait.
But.
A
A
A
A
A
If
I
recall
google
wanted
us
to
if
we
got
it
selected
open
an
open
collective.
So
we
have
that
open
and
we
are
going
to
use
we're
going
to
start
using
open
collective
to
accept
the
chaos
con
funds
with
the
general
hope
of
moving
over
to
open,
collective
and
off
of
lfx
their
community
one.
The
big
thing
that
open
collective
gives
us
is:
we
can
invoice
out
of
open
collective,
so
sophia.
This
was
actually
in
response
to
a
question
that
you
had
asked
for
me.
A
A
So,
for
the
time
being,
we
have
fifty
five
hundred
dollars
in
the
lfx
account
we're
not
going
to
try
to
move
it
over
we'll
just
expense
that
down
at
least
that's
the
thought
right
now.
So,
like
matt
cantu,
I'm
looking
at
you,
you
know
how
you
want
to
do
stickers,
the
dei
badging
stickers.
Yes,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
go
like
make
a
request
to
to
georg
to
the
finance
people.
A
A
All
right
see
we're
moving
right
along
it's
good.
So
that's!
What's
going
on
there,
let's
see:
okay,
kevin
you're
gonna
be
back
up
again
here.
So
it's
on
the
website.
A
A
B
The
yeah
shipping
shipping
is
kind
of
built
into
it,
so
I
think
we
had
initially
talked
about
doing
this
as
a
way
to
we
could
send
speaker,
gifts
and
things
to
people
you
know
without
having
to
give
it
to
them
in
person.
We
can
just
basically
give
them
a
code
and
they
can
go
to
the
website
and
put
the
coupon
code
in
to
get
whatever
item,
and
then
in
that
particular
situation
we
could
we.
We
could
even
ask
them
to
pay
for
shipping,
so
we
would
give
them
the
product.
B
But,
okay,
you
know,
could
you
pay
for
shipping
so
on
the
website
we
we
did
create.
Thank
you.
B
Kind
of
a
prototype
prototype
a
couple
prototype
pages
on
on
what
that
would
look
like,
and
I
will
share.
A
B
B
Have
to
do
it
or
or
find
someone
willing
to
volunteer
to.
A
E
A
A
E
I'll
I'll
make
sure
I'll
be
I'll.
I
promise
I'll
do
my
best
at
sending
them
out
as
well.
A
E
B
So
if
we
wanted
to,
if
we
wanted
to
eliminate
the
someone
having
to
ship
all
together,
I
know
there
are.
There
are
options
we
could
do
where.
Basically,
you
can.
Basically,
we
just
have
the
logo.
It's
kind
of
like
a
like
a
cafe
press
type
thing
where
these
are
the
these
are
the
items
that
we
could
make
and
then
they
would
just
apply
the
logo
to
it.
You
basically
order
the
product
directly
from
whoever's,
making
it
right
and
the
the
formatting
on
these
pages.
They're
they're
not
set.
So
this.
B
This
is
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
so
we
would.
We
would
make
this
look
nicer
if
we
were
to
do
it.
A
D
B
And
then,
if
you
click
on
it,
it'll
actually
open
the
page.
So
the
the
card
isn't
set
up.
Okay,
so
if
you
were
doing
it,
you
would
add
it
to
the
cart
and
then
you
could
check
out
yeah
and
then
put
in
the
coupon
code
to
get
it.
If
you
click
on
the
chaos
lunch
cooler
bag,
it
does
have
a
it'll.
Have
the
there
is
a
page
for
a
description
of
each
one.
A
E
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
for
some
reason,
everything
defaults
to
hoodies
on
here
and
I
I
didn't.
I
didn't
remove
the
hoodie
category.
A
A
Yeah,
those
were
friends,
so
all
right
cool.
Well,
this
is
great,
I
think,
does
anybody
have
questions
or
comments
on
this?
The
pricing
is
solid.
B
So
the
so
I'm
not
so
without
going
in
and
setting
it
up,
I'm
not
completely
certain
that
I
can
only
that
I
can
only
set
this
particular
store
up
to
accept
the
coupon
codes
I'll
have
to
investigate
that
a
little
bit
more.
So
the
the
pricing
is
there
to
discourage
people
from
buying
it.
A
Yeah,
don't
buy
a
shirt,
I
mean
I
don't
they,
the
shirts.
I
think
we
get
them
for
like
12
to
15
a
piece
you
know
when
we
buy
them
in
bulk
and
so.
B
A
B
Those,
oh
he's,
he's
already
an
admin
on
the
website,
so
he
he
has
full
access
to
this
application.
Currently,
okay,.
A
B
All
right
right
on,
thank
you
kevin
for
that,
so
I
will.
I
will
move
forward
with
this.
This
is
not,
as
I
said,
it's
not
in
any
sort
of
finished
state.
It's
it's
not
set
up
at
all.
This
was
just
a
just
a
bit
of
a
prototype
to
see
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward
with
it.
So
no.
B
Great
there
will
be
more
to
discuss
later
on
just
the
the
general
logistics
of
how
we
want
to
do
this
and
the
kind
of
the
policies,
as
we
kind
of
we
kind
of
get
to
that
before.
Like
do,
we
actually
want
to
get
into
selling
these
things.
A
Okay,
any
questions
or
comments
for
kevin.
Besides
the
pricing.
A
All
right
cool
looks
like
also
the
web
content.
Meetings
are
not
happening
anymore,
just
because
of
poor
attendance,
which
doesn't
mean
the
website's
not
gonna,
be
updated.
I
just
don't
think
we're.
Gonna
have
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting
so
all
good
there,
all
right,
moving
along
office
hours,
kind
of
the
same
thing
sean.
How
did
it
go
yesterday?
A
D
And
that
was
a
really
nice
conversation.
She
joined
an
hour
15
minutes
in
and
we
talked
for
about
40
minutes
about
the
mozilla
community
voice
project
and
just
sort
of
her
role
in
it,
and
it
was.
I
took
a
couple
of
notes,
didn't
want
to
take
too
much
just
because
I
don't
really
share
all
of
everyone's
information,
but
I
I
don't
know
it
was.
It
was
an
interesting
conversation.
I
hope
it
was
somewhat
helpful
or
productive
for
her.
D
I
think
it
was
mostly
just
a
way
to
share
ideas
and
talk
through
problems
and
challenges
associated
with
measurement,
but
I
don't
know
I
think
it
was
it
was
worthwhile.
I
mean
I
think
I
spent
the
first
hour
just
doing
work
and
I,
like
literally,
was
about
to
get
up
and
get
coffee,
and
I
was
like.
Oh,
I
got
a
person
there's
somebody
there
yeah,
so
I
don't
know.
I
think
I
hope
it
was
helpful
for
her,
so
they're
not
totally
moot,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
we're
having
a
ton
of
traction.
A
So
all
right-
and
I
know
that
maybe
elizabeth
had
had
a
couple-
people
attend
one
of
her
office
hours
sessions
too.
I'm
kind
of
like
you
sofia,
I
mean
I
did
it.
Nobody
showed
up
for
mine,
but
it's
not
like
it
was
a
huge
amount
of
overhead.
I
just
did
other
things
during
that
time
and
sean
I'm
guessing.
You
were
the
exact
same
just
working.
C
Hour,
be
I
mean
it
was
no
problem
to
sit
there
and
you
know
if
people
don't
show
up
and
right
now
is
like
we
sort
of
beginning.
The
meeting
august
is
a
terrible
time
like
everybody's
on
vacation.
F
E
Okay,
and
can
we
get
the
link
to
sign
up
for
a
new
spot.
A
D
A
Let's,
okay,
let's
sign
up,
I'm
gonna
try
to
find
that
in
that
and
then
all
what
do
people
think
about
moving
to
every
other
week.
C
I
think
it's
it's
a
little
bit
harder
for
newcomers
to
keep
track
of
and
every
other
kind
of
thing.
But
if
it's
clear
on
our
website,
I
think
it's
fine
I
mean
given
that
there
maybe
we
would
get
more
attendance
if
it
wasn't
every
week,
because
people
would
have
to
plan.
I
don't
know
it's
worth
a
try.
F
A
All
right,
okay,
so
just
put
a
note
in
here.
A
Okay,
all
right
cool,
thank
you,
yeah,
and
if
you
want
to
sign
up
to
attend
the
office
hours,
the
sofia
put
that
link
in
the
chat
and
in
the
minutes.
So
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
a
note,
there's
a
new
working
group.
We
had
talked
about
this
just
briefly
last
week,
which
was
taking
a
look
at
like
metrics
models.
I
think
that's
what
we're
calling
them
like
how
metrics
can
be
drawn
together
in
particular
contexts.
A
A
A
And
the
thought
was
is
if
they're
already
kind
of
thinking
through
this
and
how
to
get
that
work
done.
Then
we
probably
shouldn't
reinvent
the
wheel
to
to
think
about
how
to
bring
metrics
together,
so
I'll
just
start
participating
in
the
app
ecosystem
working
group.
So
I
can
get
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
there
yeah.
C
B
A
Not
I
didn't
know
they
were
doing
anything
with
that.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
really
did
until
last
week
when
we
found
out
they
were,
and
you
know
the
the
asia-pacific
call.
This
had
come
up
and
lucas,
who,
I
don't
think
is
on
the
call
right
now
has
expressed
a
lot
of
interest
in
this
as
well
and
he's
in
california.
A
A
Necessary
meetings:
okay,
google
summer
of
code,
I'm
gonna
move
on
google
summer
of
code
updates.
I
technically
have
something
at
the
bottom
of
the
hour.
I
might
have
to
hand
it
off
to
somebody
else
to
finish
out
the
agenda,
but
google
summer
of
code
updates.
I
think
we're
we're
closing
in
on
the
end
of
time.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
month
the
students
are
notified,
whether
they
pass
you
know
or
the
program.
C
In
two
weeks,
yeah
I
mean
it's.
I
have
like
the
google
summer
of
code
on
my
calendar
here
august
16th
is
when
the
final
coding
session
ends.
Oh.
A
A
It
looked
absolutely
amazing
all
right,
so
that's
that,
let's
see
chaos
con
yeah,
I
know
so
matt.
You
would
like
to
get
some
stickers
to
bring
to
chaos
con
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
think
so
too,
okay,
okay,
why
don't
you
price
it
out
a
little
bit
and
you
and
I
can
chat.
A
And
then
george
usually
likes
to
get
poker
chips
for
the
events.
Does
anybody
have
those
poker
chips?
You
know
I'm
talking
about
they're
like
branded
for
the
event,
so
we'll
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
that
as
well.
I
suspect,
who
put
in
virtual
event
here.
B
I
dropped
that
in
okay.
I
don't
think
we
we
haven't
talked
about
that
in
a
little
while,
however,
during
the
the
initial
planning,
where
we
were
trying
to
decide
if
we
were
going
to
do
in
person
or
if
we
were
going
to
do
an
in-person,
slash
virtual
event,
we
had
discussed
possibly
doing
kind
of
some
follow-up
virtual
events
after
the
not
not
real
time,
not
not
live
streaming,
but
kind
of
follow-up
virtual
events
where
discussions
could
occur.
A
D
Yeah
we'd
initially
planned
to
record
everything
and
then
make
those
recordings
available
as
sort
of
like
here
we're
sharing
it,
but
we're
also
going
to
share
it
at
a
time
when
the
speaker
could
be
available
for
qa.
So
we
have
that
in
the
rfp.
Everyone
has
opted
in
all
three
of
them
and
then
I
think
we
were
talking
about
live
streaming
as
well.
I'm
assuming
that's
a
separate
conversation.
B
B
So
the
the
virtual,
the
follow-up
virtual
events
would
allow
us
to
have
let
everyone
in
on
the
discussion
and
have
q
a.
D
Exactly
that
was
kind
of
the
motivation
for
them,
because
they
felt
live
streaming
was
pretty
one
way
and
even
if
there
was
some
sort
of
twitter
or
channel
it's
just
it's
disjointed
and
it's
hard
to
engage
in
that
and
that,
like
kind
of
multi-modal
mode.
So
that's
what
we
were
thinking.
So
I
think
if
we
we
do
both,
then
hopefully
we
will
make
it
more
accessible
for
folks
that
want
to
either
watch
the
live
stream
or
maybe
we'll
opt
to
watch
the
recordings
later.
So
they
can
interact
with
the
presenters.
B
D
That
was
sort
of
an
option
for
again
further
conversation,
but
that's
I
don't
know,
I'm
feeling
less
interested
in
that
just
because
it's
still
pretty
one
way
in
terms
of
it
would
give
chaos
cast
panelists
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions,
but
not
the
general
public
that
might
be
attending
it.
So
I'm
not
opposed
to
having
similar
sessions
as
chaos
cast
podcasts,
but
it
I
would
do
that
separately
or
suggest
it.
I
mean
we're
not
actually
doing
anything
yet,
because
this
is
all
hypothetical.
D
Yeah
or
we
could
do
is
say
like
we
air
it,
and
then
we
have,
I
guess,
maybe
similar
to
an
office
hours
in
terms
of
like
a
live
zoom
length
where
you
can
join
and
discuss.
F
A
Okay,
well,
that
sounds
good
and
then
is
anybody
in
the
back
of
their
mind,
thinking
what
if
ossna
turns
purely
virtual?
C
C
C
B
Maybe
they're
waiting
for
us
to
register
if
it
does
happen
our
what
is
our
plan
b?
Would
our
plan
b
to
move
directly
to
what
sophie
and
I
were
just
talking
about
where
we
just
get
these
recorded?
We
get
these
recorded
presentations
and
then
so
we
break
it
down
into
four
sessions
and
and
just
do
it
that
way,.
A
D
B
I
think
we'd
ask
the
we'd,
ask
the
speakers
to
record
their
powerpoints
for
speeches,
and
I
mean
we
couldn't
send
them
to
us
right.
We.
A
I
like
the
recording
and
then
we
could
make
like
a
channel
or
like
on
our
on
our
channel
like
categorize
them
as
ossna
like
post
them
up
there,
okay,
hi
sean.
Can
I
or
kevin?
Can
I
turn
it
over
to
you
just
to
finish
out
the
few
or
sophia
or
ray
or
matt,
or
I
don't
care
who
the
last
few
items
or
you
can
do
it
as
a
collective?
I
just
have
to
drop
off.
I
have
a
meeting
at
11
30.
B
By
the
way,
so
in
regards
to
chaos
console
so
the
one
I
have
is
so,
if
we're
going
to
use,
if
we're
going
to
use
the
the
virtual
sessions
is
plan
b,
should
we
move
forward
with
actually
kind
of
scheduling
and
kind
of
creating
the
the
framework
for
that.
C
B
D
B
Okay
yeah,
I
agree,
I
think
the
you
know
the
big
difference
would
be
who's
doing
the
recording
right.
So
if
they're,
if
they're
at
the
in-person
event,
then
we
would
record
them
if
they're,
if
they're
not
there,
we
would
just
ask
them
to
submit
their
presentation
as
a
video
recording,
but
otherwise
the
logistics
of
it
would
be
the
same.
D
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
fine
with
that.
I
think
I
was
wondering
we
only
have
three
submissions
and
the
cfp.
If
we
want
to
do
some
sort
of
last
call
or
push
for
that,
we
were
thinking
that
we
might
see
an
uptick
after
the
talks
came
back
for
ossna,
but
that
didn't
really
happen,
but
I
also
think
it's
partially,
maybe
just
because
folks
are
just
unsure
about
any
event.
B
B
By
the
people
we
know
to
submit.
D
D
That
could
be
great
as
a
session.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
recruit,
I
don't
know
how
to
recruit
to
them.
I
don't
have
that
relationship
or
contact
list,
but
I
know
others
do
so.
Those
are
thinking
for
optional,
promotional
channels.
B
I
think
we
reaching
out
to
georg
and
maybe
asking
him
to
contact
the
former
panelists
and
request
participation
that
that's
probably
how
we
would
do
that
through
chaos
cast.
B
We
could
also
compile
a
list
of
the
previous
chaos
con
presenters
and
send
requests
to
them
that
information.
The
previous
chaos
con
presenters,
are
all
listed
on
the
website.
E
I
think
both
of
those
are
great
ideas
and
I
think
definitely
giarga-
is
the
person
to
ask
about
the
podcast.
D
D
B
B
Actually,
okay
gerard
can
tweet
as
well.
Additionally,
we
have
the
we
actually
have
the
website
blog
automatically
set
up
to
to
tweet.
So
anything
that
goes
through
the
website.
Blog
will
get
tweeted.
B
And
I
can
actually,
I
can
schedule
those
blogs.
So
if
we
wanted
to
just
if
you
want
to
tweet
that
out
every
every
hour
for
the
next
30
days,.
F
We
could
see
see
how
many
followers
we
can
lose.
D
E
B
C
E
So
my
first
conference
presentation
at
my
first
conference
was
a
lightning
talk
at
chaos.
Con
it'll
always
be
dear
to
me,
and
I
think
that
is
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
get
out
there
and
talk
about
what
matters
to
them.
I
agree,
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
F
D
The
comment
was
just
the
ethics
work.
Can
we
table
this
until
next
week,
and
that
makes
sense,
because
I
think
garrick
is
driving
it
and
he's
not
here,
so
it's
tabled
until
next
week.
D
So
that's,
I
don't
think
we
have
to
discuss
that
unless
we
do-
and
the
last
item
is
not
really
a
discussion
item
either
it's
just
something
that
I
added
we
had
been
talking
about
it
last
week
asking
who
was
presenting
at
ossna,
I
started
a
spreadsheet
so
that
we
could
put
in
our
talks.
D
I
am
going
on
monday
at
one
o'clock,
so
if
there
are
other
sessions
that
are
happening
later
in
the
event,
I'd
love
to
plug
them
at
the
end
of
my
session
to
say,
hey
more
conversations
about
metrics
or
chaos,
and
I
can
I
can
list
out
those
sessions.
So
I
think
if
we
have
a
record
of
them,
then
we
can
promote
various
related
metrics
and
chaos
related
sessions.
So
I
just
put
that
in
as
an
fyi
also
might
be
fun
to
attend
some
each
other
session.
D
C
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
talk
about.
I.
C
Yeah,
I
did,
I
guess,
a
little
bit.
C
I
I
it's
a
long
story,
but
I
was
in
hawaii
for
a
week,
so
I
think
I
was
in
hawaii
the
last
time
I
was
on
this
call.