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CHAOSS.Community.Feb.4.2020
A
Oh
we
go.
This
is
technically
our
monthly
meeting,
I
well
yeah,
we'll
see
probably
next
week,
I
might
want
to
send
out
a
more
complete
agenda.
I
just
I
didn't
think
there
would
be
a
ton
participation
today,
just
because
of
chaos,
Khan
and
Paz
demand,
copyleft
and
sustain,
and
all
those
things
going
on
in
Brussels
for
the
last
for
the
last
week.
A
A
So
one
is
the
chaos
con,
debrief
and
kind
of
what
people's
thoughts
were
that
were
there
and
for
those
that
couldn't
attend,
maybe
use
this
time
to
kind
of
talk
about
things
that
came
up
a
little
bit
so
I
know
four
of
us
on
the
call.
Were
there
so
chaos
I,
thought
personally,
I
thought
it
was
a
real
good
success.
I
thought
we
had
the
best
set
of
talks
that
we've
had.
It
was
the
best
chaos
con.
B
A
A
There
was
just
a
really
broad
array
of
talks,
so
some
of
the
talks
were
from
corporate
engagement
side
with
the
metrics
I
thought.
Some
of
the
talks
were
with
new
areas
where
the
metrics
are
being
considered
in
the
scientific
space
and
I
also
thought
there
were
a
whole
nice
set
of
talks
about
kind
of
what
was
occurring
in
the
community
itself.
You
know
I
mean
so
weight
in
science,
how
the
metrics
are
being
deployed
in
in
industry
and
also
kind
of
just
what's
the
activity
going
on
within
the
project
itself.
A
So
personally
I
thought
it
was
great
to
see
all
of
those
things.
The
room
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
the
Oregon
I
briefly
chatted
about
yesterday
was
the
room,
is
probably
gonna,
be
a
limitation.
If
we
stick
with
chaos,
it
is
with,
there
seems
to
be
a
really
great
pairing.
This
is
going
whether
it
was
sustained
conference
plus
cat
chaos,
con
plus
copyleft
plus
FOSDEM.
That
collection
seems
to
really
bring
a
lot
of
people
mm-hmm,
so
we
probably
next
year
just
want
to
think
about
the
venue.
A
A
B
Mean
yep
I,
don't
know
what
they're
doing
the
day
before
FOSDEM,
but
maybe
we
could
get
a
room
over
there.
Probably
looking
for
more
conferences,
yeah
I
mean
you
know
it
might
actually
be
a
really
good
fit.
I,
don't
know
it's
a
date.
It's
a
it's
a
school
day,
I
suppose
because
it's
a
Friday
which
might
hurt
her
so.
A
A
C
B
B
D
B
Trying
to
compare
it
to
the
Ibis
Hotel
and
because
the
room
was
so
crammed,
we
were
always
in
the
classroom
layout,
and
so
there
was
less
opportunity
for
informal
interaction
with
people
like
you
were
in
your
seat
and
it's
not
like.
You
had
a
lot
of
choices
about
taking
a
different
seat
and
so
and
we
couldn't
rearrange
the
room
if
it
was,
would
have
been
useful.
So
I
got
not
saying
we
do
that
sustained
environment,
but
it
I
think
it
definitely
offered
some
flexibility
that
could
facilitate
more
interaction,
yeah
and
so.
D
A
F
D
A
D
Of
the
questions
we
had
on
the
registration
was
whether
chaos
can
reach
out
to
folks
and
and
update
them
on
upcoming
events
and
so
on.
What
do
you
mean
say
that
again,
so
one
of
the
checkbox
on
the
registration
was
Ken.
Chaos
contact
you
about
future
events.
That's
a
tidy
okay,
I've
been
thinking
about
that
and
I.
Don't
like
the
idea
of
maintaining
like
a
mailing
list
or
letter
or
some
other
database
of
contacts
specifically
to
send
out
events
and
the
other
thing
we
can
just
email
them,
hey!
Thank
you
for
being
a
cascade.
D
A
E
F
B
B
F
A
D
Terms
of
process,
the
next
step
is
waiting
for
the
money
to
arrive
from
community
bridge
I
saw
it
was
approved
by
you
and
by
admin.
Okay,
then,
as
soon
as
I
get
the
dollars
from
a
bench,
three
two
I
will
make
the
donation
to
get
a
lot
of
registration
and
so
on.
Okay,
sounds
good
yeah
Ernie
waiting
for
banks.
A
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
A
Doesn't
super
matter
so
well.
The
organizational
application
is
done
on
the
at
the
google
Summer
of
Code
page.
You
know,
there's
a
web
page
that,
like
near
work
and
I
kind
of
a
direct
attended
to,
and
that's
done,
that's
ready
to
go
and
so
that
auto
submits
tomorrow
at
some
time
during
the
day,
probably.
B
A
A
B
A
Okay,
actually
not
but
github
page
doesn't
auto,
submit
the
link.
Okay
and
wait.
The
wait
will
the
link
to
the
page
Auto
submits
and
if
you
are
on
the
sixth,
that's
too
late,
or
they
probably
may
not
even
look
by
the
six.
That's
fine,
but
I
would
rather
just
get
this
done.
Time-Stamped
all
yes,
just
absolutely.
A
Excuse
me
so
then
also
outreach
e,
so
I
did.
We
do
need
to
put
together
some
project
ideas.
I
mean
honestly.
We
can
I
think
we
can
use
the
ideas
that
are
going
into
google
Summer
of
Code,
where
people's
thoughts
are
on
that.
So
basically
outreach
e
right,
we're
gonna,
get
us
one
intern
or
one
mentee
for
the
outreach
program.
I
assume
we're
gonna
use
our
cash
for
that
yes,
and
so
it's
$6,500
that'll
come.
F
A
Community
bridge
and
we
basically
proposed
a
series
of
ideas
and
then
kind
of
talk
through
what
those
ideas
are.
So
one
of
the
things
that
sage
had
recommended
to
me
was
the
the
more
on
the
data
analytic
side.
The
better.
A
lot
of
people
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
doing
that
type
of
analytics
work.
Okay,.
B
B
B
A
D
A
B
Mean
my
experience
is:
if
I've
got
one
gee
psych
student
I
can
have
four
and
it's
not
remarkably
more
effort,
because
it's
like
having
two
kids
is
more
work
than
having
four
kids
or
so
I
watched,
and
my
parents
did
that
you
know
they
kind
of
hurt.
They
heard
they
take
care
of
themselves.
They
tell
on
each
other
when.
C
D
H
H
H
I
think
it
would
help
to
explore
that
angle
and
I
think
that
angle
is
really
where
my
head
has
been
a
for.
What
as
a
project
proposals
like
I
like
I,
said
I,
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
be
making
assumptions
or
anything
but
I,
but
I've
seen
a
lot
of
confident
go
from
github
to
something
and
then
you
know
I,
you
know
served
and
basically
that
is
the
model.
H
A
H
A
H
D
I
also
I
agree
with
your
assessment,
suddenly
that
we
currently
have
a
rather
complicated
process
for
updating
the
website,
and
this
is
most
for
the
website
I'm,
not
that
concerned.
It's
really
for
the
metrics
that
this
is
costing
us
a
ton
of
time,
especially
it
Kevin
is
spending
so
much
time
on
the
release
and
making
sure
that
we
get
the
metrics
onto
the
website.
Yeah
cuz.
We
have
this
interplay
between
github
and
word
present.
H
Ends
that
would
be
great
yeah,
so
I'll
just
say
the
extreme,
which
I
can
do
individually
as
a
person.
My
deployment
toolkit
is
as
follows:
make
a
change
commit
the
change
that
let
that
literate
without
any
without
any
actions
or
workflows
or
any
things
like
I,
just
commit
the
change
in
a
weight
for
CloudFlare
to
just.
You
know
realize
that
okay,
the
page
changed
I'll
dump
the
old
cash.
You
know
that
that's
about
it.
Of
course,
that's
not
the
model
you
want
to
implement.
H
D
H
E
F
Thought
that
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
they
want
to
talk
about
your
idea.
Yeah
I
wasn't
sure
if
this
qualified,
so
we've
been
working
on
the
social
kind,
symmetric
system
and
the
social
trained
symmetric
system
hasn't
actually
been
built
yet,
but
it
is
a
metric,
it
is
well
developed
and
it
is
available
to
be
built
into
something.
So
if
the
project
does
qualify
for
google
Summer
of
Code,
it
could
be
a
potential
option.
I
mean
didn't
want
to
bring
an
actress,
obviously
biased.
No.
A
That's
been
going
on
in
the
value,
so
it
very
much
has
a
place
in
the
KSR
project.
So
if
you
would
like
to
bring
forward,
I
mean
the
more
ideas,
so
the
way
that
these
work
right
is
that
so
the
way
that
Google
Summer
of
Code
works
is
we
are
we
apply
as
an
organization,
and
we
make
a
request
for
a
number
of
spots
for
mentees,
so
I
think
in
the
past,
we've
done
two
to
four
for
our
request
and
we've
been
I.
A
Think
we've
had
four
approved
consistently
and
then
it's
really
up
to
the
students
or
the
people
interested
the
students
interested
in
the
ji-suk
program
to
identify
the
projects
that
they
would
like
to
connect
with
I
mean
I.
Think
bringing
forward
more
potential
ideas
within
the
chaos
project
is
is
definitely
the
positive
thing
to
do
so,
I
strongly.
I
that
would
be
great,
the
again
kind
of
like
what
I
was
home
Shawn.
If
you
want
to
do
it
for
gee
psychic,
we
kind
of
need
to
get
it
into
the
repository
yeah.
A
F
A
Sawa
same
for
you,
I
mean,
if
you
think
you
can
pull
together
the
idea
before
tomorrow,
then
then
great.
But
if
not
right,
then
we
have
in
three
weeks
as
the
RET
deadline,
so
I
mean
that
might
be
a
more
sensible
time
and
it's
the
same
deal.
So
unlike
google
Summer
of
Code,
where
you
get
two
to
four
now
treaty,
it's
one
because
we
have
funding
for
a
single
student
because
we
have
to
provide.
A
F
A
F
A
D
A
You
this
is
a
great
great
on
google
Summer
of
Code
in
outreaching.
Does
anybody
have
any
other?
Excuse
me
comments
on
these
two
programs.
I'm
excited
to
be
part
of
potentially
part
of
we're
part
of
our
ricci,
so
we've
been
approved
as
an
organization
and
I
hope
that
we
can
be
approved
for
google
Summer
of
Code.
We've
done
it
the
last
two
years,
so
I
think
our
students
have
had
pretty
uniformly
excellent
experiences.
Yeah
I
had
very
good
success.
B
D
A
E
E
H
A
A
A
So
too,
well,
let
me
like
I,
said
I'll
see
Matt
in
about
an
hour
and
a
half
no
talk
with
him.
Then
I
will
say
it's
salah.
By
the
way
I
did
do
the
talk
at
chaos
con
on
the
DNI
badging,
I
would
say,
was
very
well
received
and
I
do
have
a
few
comments
for
you
on
the
badge
itself,
because
I
think
you
had
done
the
image
yeah.
H
A
Was
it
was
well
read,
it
was
well
received
and
it
was
very
clearly
understood
in
the
talk.
I
had
a
few
comments
back
from
the
Linux
Foundation
I
had
sure
that
just
the
use
of
the
logo
was
okay,
the
circle
as
opposed
to
the
end,
and
they
said
that
was
fine.
There
were
two
I'll
put
an
issue
and
there
were
two
particular
things
that
had
changed.
I
think
there's
a
drop
background
on
the
on
the
circle
that
has
to
go
away
and
then
and
then
the
brown
has
to
change.
H
Oh,
the
color
coordination
is
definitely
something
but
the
design
of
the
shield
underlay.
Why
we
added
the
backdrop.
The
backdrop
is
a
shadow
similar
to
the
shadow
used
in
the
label
of
the
other
of
the
template.
So
it's
a
template
shadow.
It's
not
a
logo.
Shadow
right
like
saying
when
the
style
of
the
template
is
this,
you
put
anything
in
it.
It
will
have
this
and
without
it
it
was
looking
called,
not
visible,
color
wise.
Not
this
thing
from
the
background.
H
A
You
thank
you
alright.
So
one
of
the
things
is:
are
we
good
on
google
Summer
of
Code
and
outreach
II?
Any
other
comments
on
that
so
goal
setting
I
just
this
is
doesn't
have
to
be.
If
you
have
thoughts
today,
that's
great,
but
this
is
something
I'd
like
to
bring
up
kind
of,
maybe
for
the
next
month
in
our
weekly
meetings
and
so
I,
just
I,
guess
I'm
putting
it
out
here
so
that
you
as
a
person,
can
think
about
what
you
may
or
what
you
not
obviously
say,
may
or
may
not.
A
But
what
you
may
want
to
accomplish
in
the
chaos
project
in
2020.
So
are
there
particular
things
that
you
would
like
to
see
done?
Are
there
particular
things
that
we
aren't
doing
that
you
think
is
a
bit
of
a
blind
spot?
Are
you
you
know
something
along
those
lines?
So
again
you
don't
have
to
have
ideas
today,
but
if
you
could
just
kind
of
think
about
it,
I
ask
and
bring
those
ideas
forward.
A
So
when
you're
out
for
a
walk
later
today
and
you're
thinking
about
the
chaos
project
like
what
would
I
like
to
see
in
2020,
that
would
be
very
helpful
because
it
gives
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
direction,
I
kind
of
thing
as
a
group
together
and
try
to
work
towards
those
goals.
I
see
there
are
some
ideas
here:
yeah
we're
just
Chad
drop
them
into
this
drop
them
into
this
document.
D
A
A
So
there
has
been
a
request
to
have
one
meeting
a
month:
that's
more
friendly
for
Asia
Pacific,
so
I
had
suggested
that
that
there
would
be
just
one
meeting
a
month
that
could
be
like
a
I,
don't
know
just
later
I
think
later
in
the
evening,
or
no
way
super
early
in
the
morning
super
early
in
the
morning.
For
me,
like
6:00
a.m.
or
something
like
that,
where
we
just
run
a
meeting
and
of
course
anybody
can
join,
it
would
be
6:00
a.m.
Central
for
4
a.m.
B
Mean
I
think
I
think
we
tried
that
with
the
risker,
because
there
a
strong
interest
in
risk
yeah.
It
seems
a
little
bit
like
that.
Biz
the
business
culture
in
Japan,
which
is
really
where
most
of
my
Asian
experience,
is,
isn't
super
into
calls
in
the
English
language.
Well,
this
was
a
may
be
the
case.
I
think
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
they
don't
do
it.
A
A
B
A
B
C
A
D
F
B
B
Which
is
to
consider
the
possibility
of
less
of
a
rigid
release
cycle
and
more
of
a
accumulation
of
releasable
metrics
that
are
queued
up
and
that
we
can
determine
that
it's
time
to
release
them
at
some
point
in
time.
So
with
a
fixed
release
cycle
right
now,
I
mean
we
are
not
releasing
sa
P.
We
don't
have
a
highly
dependent
collection
of
software
that
has
to
all
be
released
together.
A
The
only
thing,
the
one
thing
that
I
really
about
the
scheduled
releases
as
it
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
like
a
forcing
function
on
the
working
groups
to
provide
clear
articulation
and
so
I
kind
of
don't
mind
doing
that
track
down
like
on
that
six-month
cycle.
Mm-Hmm.
So
that
that's
me
so
my
guess,
my
concern
is
if
we
don't
have
release
dates
like
in
particular,
the
that
it's
quite
possible,
maybe
the
working
groups
would
just
kind
of
go
for
a
long
time,
not
ever.
B
Releasing
anything
so
so
I
I,
guess
I'm,
suggesting
the
best
of
both
worlds,
where
we
do
have
these
release
dates
but,
for
example,
in
the
risk
working
group,
I
think
I
think
if
we
had
the
ability
to
mature
and
circulate
a
metric
every
once
in
a
while
when
we
thought
it
was
important
and
even
if
the
release
date
is
six
months
away
it
in
get
it
released.
That
I
think
that
it
would
motivate
activity
in
the
working
groups.
I
see.
B
With
the
six
month
cadence,
yes,
that
would
be
a
like
we'd
call
that
maybe
a
major
release,
but
there
could
be
minor
releases
that
would
go
through
the
same
process
where
it
would
go
through
a
30-day
review
period
and
and
whatnot.
So
it
wouldn't
be
like
a
cheating
release,
but
it
would
I
think
you
would
give
working
groups,
especially
ones
that
are
trying
to
get
off
the
ground
more
immediate
term
targets
that
might
motivate
more
participation.
I
could
be
completely
wrong
about
that
and
I.
D
F
D
The
idea
that
I
have
on
that
is
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
to
always
be
doing
this
looping
review
and
getting
it
approved,
and
maybe
we
can
do
something
like
every
two
months.
You
do
a
minor
release,
and
so
we
still
have
a
small,
cadence
and
working
groups
knows.
Oh
I
want
to
have
this
metric
ready
for
the
next
minor
release
and
then
for
once
a
year
at
that
point,
I
would
move
it
to
once
a
year.
B
Right,
yeah,
yeah,
I
agree
with
that
I
think,
like
it's
a
print
like
I
think
we
should
maybe
circulated
on
the
mailing
list
and
not
decide,
maybe
until
the
next
monthly
meeting,
but
like
I,
don't
want
to
rush
it
through.
You
know
I
want
to
give
people
a
not
on
the
call
time
to
think
about
it.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
the
reasons
you
stated
another
Z
or
because
you
were
agreeing
with
the
idea
right,
I.
D
B
So
I
think
one
of
the
core
constraints
you
pointed
out
was
that
we
would
not
be
doing
like
major
restructuring
of
metrics
or
the
metrics
template
that
it
would
be
just
following
whatever
the
metrics
template
is
and
and
I
think
we
could
even
call
those
metrics
patches
to
a
prior
release
like
you
might,
with
or
or
minor
release
numbering
depending
how
we
want
to
do
it.
But
the
official
release
wouldn't
then
fully
include
them
like
they
could
still
be
published
on
the
website.
People
could
see
them
and
use
them,
but
yeah.