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CHAOSS.Community.August.4.2020
A
Hello:
everyone
welcome
to
the
august
4th
super
special
monthly
edition
of
our
chaos
weekly
meetings.
It's
very
exciting
one.
I
am
a
blueberry
today,
apologies!
I
don't
everyone
else
looks
pretty
normal,
but
I
don't
know
why
I'm
purple
anyway,
moving
along.
If
you
have
not
put
your
name
in
the
attendee
list,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
Oh
thank
you.
Matt
for
sharing
the
minutes
in
the
chat,
always
on
top
of
things.
A
B
A
B
So
that's
it!
I
would
like
to
use
this
opportunity
to
suggest
that
we
get
our
own
chaos
channel,
because
I
often
wait
for
someone
from
uno
to
show
up
to
record
them,
and
I
think
it's
too
much
to
put
on
one
one
small
part
of
the
organization
to
have
the
ability
to
turn
that
stuff
on,
and
I
think
it
would
also
eliminate
that
need
for
a
waiting
room.
B
Yeah
they
just
kind
of
stuck
with
it
yeah.
Absolutely
I
completely.
It
totally
makes
sense,
but
I
mean
the
universities
are
getting
kind
of
super
ridiculous
about
what
they're
wanting
us
to
do
with
zoom
security,
and
I
don't
want
it
to
impede
our
working
groups,
because
now
I
would
now
I
wouldn't
only
not
able
to
be
able
to
record
if
somebody
from
yono
isn't
there,
but
then
I
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
start
the
meeting
unless
we
did
passwords.
C
F
G
D
B
F
C
C
C
C
B
B
D
E
F
D
E
H
Sorry
go
ahead,
no!
No!
You
go
ahead.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
were
exploring
jitsi
meat,
that's
an
open
source,
video
conference
platform
and
it
works
quite
stable
for
us.
I
think
we
were
running
half
of
our
project
teams
gathering
on
on
it,
for
instance,
and
I
think
you
can
configure
it
pretty
well
when
it
comes
to
different
bandwidth
levels
that
people
have
available
these
days.
So
I
think
it's
something
that
could
be
interesting
to
look
into
if
we
would
want
to
switch
to
something
else
than
zoom.
I
Yeah,
if
it
was
a
priority,
I
use
the
jitsi
service.
That's
free
online
every
week
for
the
opensource.com
community
and
it's
a
little
inconsistent
to
be
fair
if
you're
using
their
servers.
If
you
want
to
run
it
yourself,
it's
pretty
rock
solid
technology,
but
that
involves
infrastructure
that
I
personally
don't
want
to
manage
and
it's
a
little
out
of
scope
of
what
we
might
be
doing
here,
but
I
echo
everything
she
just
said.
I
was
part
of
a.
We
did
like
a
multi-week
review
for
an
article.
I
C
A
G
F
D
A
Okay,
so
just
to
recap:
matt's
gonna
check
with
ls.
If
we
don't
have
access
to
zoom
through
that
he's
just
gonna
get
us
our
own
chaos
channel.
Okay,
all
right
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
signing
off
on
the
release.
Metrics
so
kevin
before
he
can
push
everything
to
officially
released
on
the
website
needs
to
get
all
working
groups
to
sign
off
on
the
the
metrics
that
are
up
for
release,
meaning
that
they
have
addressed
all
the
comments
and
questions
and
concerns
that
people
have
brought
up
during
the
public
review
session.
A
D
G
I
Like
we'll
have
to
async
it
yeah,
I
think
the
only
thing
that
was
kind
of
floating
had
to
do
with
scms
annotations
that
sean
is
a
pr
in
for,
but
I
guess
this
is
the
nudge
on
the
thread
that
we
have
that
if
there's
anything,
we
need
to
do,
update
the
thread
and
I'll
aim
to
merge
it
end
the
day.
That's
the
latest.
B
Yes,
I
do
so
you
can
see
under
sign
off.
No
that's
not
it
sorry.
Somebody
just
popped
up
on
my
screen,
so
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
a
list
of
so
there's,
there's
like
when
you're
trying
to
create
metrics.
There
are
conceptual
logical
and
physical
similarities.
A
lot
of
what
we
do
is
map
physical
differences
to
a
logically
common
metric
and
as
we've
discussed
garrett
we
are-
and
I
think
armstrong
is
the
one
in
the
group
that
has
the
most
experience
working
with
garrett
and
he
was
going
to
reach
out
to
some
folks.
B
H
H
D
H
B
F
B
H
Yeah
I
wanted
to
join
last
week,
but
last
I
have
an
ongoing
call
at
the
exact
same
time
and
last
week,
the
topic
that
they
were
discussing.
I
couldn't
miss
that
one,
but
I
think
next
week
I
I'm
probably
able
to
skip
that
meeting
and
join
the
evolution.
Working
group
call
if
that
works.
I
also
got
the
the
some
of
the
questions
from
armstrong.
Just
didn't
get
the
time
to
reply
to
his
email,
yet,
but
probably
good
idea.
If
I
both
reply
and
join
the
call,
so
more
people.
D
H
B
B
Is
that
comparison
helpful
and
if
not
at
the
cert,
at
the
face
of
it,
are
there
things
we
can
do
in
terms
of
the
way
we
interpret
garrett
repositories
and
tooling?
That
would
make
it
more
helpful,
so
consider
that
question
as
you
ponder
over
the
next
nine
days
or
eight
days,
okay,
eight
days,
if
I
keep
and
then
I
have,
I
have
one
more
question
for
the
whole
group,
which
is
I've
listed
garrett,
github
get
lab
and
bitbucket,
as
as
we
think
about
the
evolution
metrics.
These
are
the
ones
historically
that
we've
looked
at.
B
B
C
A
B
So
we
looked
into
jira
and
I
guess
one
question
we
have
is
it
looks
like
zhira,
I
mean
I'm
not
fully
aware
of
the
history
of
jira.
I
know
apache
historically
used
jiroth
for
version
control.
It
is
now
entirely
on
github,
or
at
least
all
of
the
10
or
so
repos.
I
checked
up
here.
Apache
has
a
very
strong
presence
on
github
they're,
not
mirrors,
it's
where
the
work
is
happening
and
the
only
reference
I
can
find
at
jira
when
I
search
the
internet
is
to
an
atlassian
commercial
product.
B
F
F
F
I
Yeah
I
messed
around
with
that
at
one
company
with
it's
something
to
do
with
like
a
piece
that
was
rolled
in
and
then
out
of
bit
bucket
as
the
bucket
tried
to
survive,
but
I
haven't
heard
of
any
projects
and
I
see
a
lot
of
new
and
less
known
open
source
projects
on
a
regular
basis
through
opensource.com
and
nothing
popped
up
recently.
There.
B
B
E
A
B
B
I
think
thirteen
thousand
projects
at
this
point
and
we,
the
first
cut,
was
to
just
look
at
the
most
commonly
used
tanks
and
identify
those
that
indicated
a
bug
or
some
kind
of
risk
to
the
stability
of
the
software
in
the
second
pass.
What
we've
done
is
laid
that
across
the
number
of
repositories
using
any
one
individual
tag.
So
if,
if
there's
a
very
widely
used
tag
on
a
giant
project,
it
might
skew
towards
the
top
100
and-
and
all
we've
done
is
sort
of
done.
This
cross
check
and
that's
that's
the
analysis,
we're
doing.
B
B
C
C
C
C
Along
really
nicely
so
again,
asta
and
matt
snell
have
been
doing
great
work
and
they're
going
to
be
doing
a
second
pilot
here
soon.
I
think
honestly,
the
biggest
issue,
and
if
anybody
has
thoughts
on
this
feel
free
to
to
speak
up,
but
so
the
biggest
issue
is
right
now,
you're
all
familiar
with
the
badging
program,
or
at
least
the
concept
of
the
badging
program,
say
that
an
event
would
apply
for
a
badge
based
on
at
the
moment,
five
event
metrics.
C
C
You
know
if,
if
the
event,
if
the
number
of
event
metrics
goes
from
five
to
seven
and
from
seven
to
eleven
and
then
from
eleven
to
fourteen,
you
know
over
time
right.
How
do
we
continue
to
think
about
gold,
silver
and
bronze
badging,
based
on
this
increasing
number
of
metrics
associated
with
an
event?
Does
that
make
sense?
C
C
C
C
Our
thought
was
to
lower
that
percentage,
just
a
little
bit
right,
so
a
gold
badge
isn't
100
adherence
to
the
metrics
because,
as
has
been
brought
up,
some
of
the
metrics
are
probably
just
not
attainable
by
certain
events
or
they're,
just
not
even
within
scope
for
certain
events
right,
they
just
may
not
be
applicable,
even
though
they're
great
metrics
and
they're
things
that
certain
events
should
attend
to.
They
just
don't
necessarily
apply.
C
C
A
A
A
H
A
I
Sure
happy
to
we
had
a
a
heck
of
a
good
time
getting
to
the
the
latest
release.
The
big
thing
we're
celebrating
is:
we've
got
a
pretty
pretty
solid,
set
of
focus
areas
that
you
can
explore
in
here.
If
you're
interested
in
any
of
them
have
metrics
that
come
to
mind,
please
start
joining
on
thursdays
every
other
week,
so
social
value
is
something
that
we
don't
currently
have
any
metrics
around.
I
So
it's
it's
of
interest
to
us
next
to
start
asking
people
that
work
on
software
related
to
social
value
in
particular,
and
capture
how
they
then
assess
that
it's
meeting
that
objective
and
then
organizational
value
we
have
some
individual
and
communal,
are
all
out
there
already
next
topics
on
our
minds.
We
came
across
a
language.
I
You
know
right
now,
it's
not
defined
and
we're
using
it
quite
frequently,
so
we're
realizing
it's.
It's
maybe
a
necessary
step
to
look
at
it
from
holistically
across
chaos
that
that
differentiates
these
kind
of
discrete,
individual
and
atomic
as
we're
using
terms
for
like
simple
metrics,
I
simple
as
even
another
word
to
throw
into
it,
but
like
these
things
that
can
then
be
built
up
into
more
complex
metrics,
where,
like
you
have,
you
know,
commits
as
a
a
simple
one
or
prs
like
a
tally
of
prs-ism.
I
As
that,
and
then
you
can
get
to
percentages
of
prs.
Merge
from
people
outside
the
organization
is
a
combination
of
multiple
metrics
that
you're
capturing
and
putting
together
so
that
language
keeps
coming
up
around
value
in
particular,
because
we're
trying
to
synthesize
different
individual
pieces
into
something
of
value
and
we're
bumping
up
against
that.
We
don't
have
to
dive
all
the
way
into
what
that
means
and
solve
that
today.
C
C
C
We're
then
going
to
move
the
social
currency
metric
system
out
as
a
metric,
so
it
it
will
no
longer
be
a
metric,
it
will
be
a
collection
of
metrics
and
so
the
metrics,
the
atomic
metrics,
will
be
in
the
value
working
group.
But
the
social
currency
metric
system
will
not
I'm
going
to
stop
there
for
a
second,
because
there's
more
to
this
story.
C
So
so
that's!
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
happening.
What
came
out
of
that
discussion
was
that
that
we,
actually
maybe
unbeknownst
or
unkind
of
formally
thought
about-
is
that
that
we're
going
to
move
the
social
currency
metric
system
out
as
a
as
a
program
or
is
that
what
we
called
it
a
program?
Yeah
a
program
is
what
we're
used,
but
we're
not
wedded
to
it.
No,
so
it's
a
so
it's
a
program,
and
this
program
is
a
way
to
to
think
about
how
you
can
bring
together.
C
Chaos
metrics
to
have
an
impact
in
the
world
right,
and
so
the
social
currency
metric
system
will
essentially,
I
think,
gary
you
use
the
word
upgraded
or
that
it's
it
moves
out
of
just
being
a
metric,
because
it
really
is
a
collection
of
many
atomic
metrics,
but
being
a
program
that
brings
together
metrics.
That
has
methodologies
that
has
practices
associated
with
it,
and
in
that
call
we
realize
that
we
have
two
other
programs
in
the
chaos
project.
One
of
those
programs
is
the
dni
badging
program,
which
is
really
the
same
thing.
C
So
it
was
pretty
pretty
cool
that
that
came
out
of
this.
We've
been
talking
to
kevin
as
to
how
we
might
display
this
on
the
web.
Page
right
start
saying
here
are
some
programs
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
or
participate
in
so
anyway
that
was
the
that
was
what
also
came
out
of
this,
which
I
was
pretty
happy
about.
K
K
You're
very
welcoming,
oh
thanks.
So
every
time
I
look
at
the
chaos
metrics
and
I
know
it's
open
source
centric
or
software
centric.
There
is
fundamentally
a
framework
and
a
set
of
tools
that
are
used
to
measure
something
be
it
in
open
source
or
software.
That's
something
still
applies
in
any
collaboration.
K
Online
collaboration
may
be
more
of
the
pivot
point,
but
but
any
form
of
community
and
collaboration
where
people
get
together
organize
and
do
something,
and
so
I
would
love
to
see
as
the
program
you
know,
evolves
that
it
kind
of
also
tries
to
see
what
can
be
used
outside
of
open
source,
because
that
direction
would
mean
that
chaos
would
definitely
make
a
new
trend
in
collaboration.
You
know
metric
based
collaboration
as
a
as
a
global
concept,
not
not
a
localized
concept
to
open
source
yeah.
That's.
C
A
A
C
A
B
B
We
call
it
a
subsequent
do
sox
thing
that
takes
auger
and
makes
the
all
the
licensing
risk
information
available
inside
of
awkar
using
the
do
socks
software
strategy,
that's
in
addition
to
the
auger
community
reports
released
last
week.
We
welcome
contributions
and
we've
also
started
making
updates
to
an
auger
medium
channel
and
have
a
form
on
our
website
for
requesting
an
auger
instance,
which
I
will
make
work.
There's
some
wordpress
thing
that
I'm
not
smart
enough
to
figure
out.
So
once
I
get
that
figured
out
I'll
publicize
that
more
widely.
B
A
A
Well,
sean
and
santi
will
be
mentoring,
volunteers
on
their
open
source
day
through
grace
hopper.
So
just
an
fyi.
If
you
have
questions
about
that,
that
doesn't
happen
until
september,
so
just
to
let
everyone
know
that's
happening
program
updates.
We
kind
of
discussed
this
already.
I
don't
think
there
was
anything
else
to
add
to
that.
Is
there
anyone
nope?
Okay,
we
have
only
two
minutes
left
and
I
should
have
put
mentorship
and
the
first
one
because
they
always
get
at
that
bottom,
and
I
hate
that.