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A
Hey
everyone
welcome
to
november
9th
edition
of
the
chaos
community
call
I'm
elizabeth,
I
am
the
community
manager
here
at
chaos,
and
I
see
some
new
faces.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome,
really
excited
to
have
you
here.
A
If
we
have
time,
we
might
ask
you
to
just
do
a
quick
introduction
of
yourself,
but
if
you
don't
want
to
you,
don't
have
to
and
also
just
a
reminder.
You
are
absolutely
welcome
to
keep
your
camera
off.
We
do
not
care.
I
keep
mine
on
just
because,
whatever
I
do
so
yeah
the
minutes
and
the
agenda
have
been
dropped
in
the
chat.
A
B
Day,
did
you
do
anything
fun?
You
know
well,
my
husband
took
me
to
dinner
and
he
took
me
to
dinner
the
very
the
place
that
we
like
first,
where
he
first
took
me
to
dinner.
My
birthday
and
he,
like
you
know,
flew
my
mom
down
here
and
stuff,
so
it
was
nice.
A
All
right,
we
do
have
quite
a
lot
on
the
agenda
today,
so
let's
jump
in
and
I
will.
A
All
right
so
before
we
go
forward,
we
wanted
to
bring
this
back
around
the
dco
sign
off
stuff
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
this
discussion
right
now.
Chaos,
because
we're
part
of
the
linux
foundation
requires
a
dco,
and
I
don't
remember
what
that
stands
for
developer
certificate
of
work.
C
A
Okay,
I'm
doing
good.
I
even
had
coffee
today,
so
we
require
that
whenever
you
submit
a
pr
and
it
can
be
kind
of
a
pain
and
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
add.
Sometimes
so
there's
been
a
discussion
here
about
if
we
have
an
something
that
we
can
do
to
make
that
easier
or
just
take
it
away,
there's
also
some
issues
about
using
real
names,
and
that
can
be
a
problem
for
for
some
people.
A
So
this
was
kind
of
what
we
were
talking
about
doing
and
then
ray
was
the
last
one
to
comment
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
he
added
a
couple
of
other
options
to
to
not
require
it
100
but
having
it
say
by
making
a
contribution.
You
agree
to
the
dco
terms.
A
Basically,
it's
I
think
the
purpose
of
that
is
to
be
able
to
tie
a
pr
back
to
a
person
so
that,
if
there's
you
know
in
my
understanding,
if
there's
something
nefarious
or
something
bad
in
there,
then
they
know
who
is
responsible.
D
I
mean
it's
still
required,
it's
just
streamlining
it.
Basically,
you
don't
have
to
submit
any
form
or
check
any
boxes.
It's
just
saying
just
by
contributing.
You
accept
the
terms.
It's
it's
like
a
lot
of
the
terms
that
you
see
on
online,
and
so
it
just
lowers
a
lowers
a
barrier
to
entry-
and
you
know
I
mean,
like
you
said,
elizabeth
not
having
a
dco
is
not
really
an
option.
E
E
Yeah
right,
it
was
actually
instead
of
nothing.
It's
how
the
conversation
started
right
and
then
nothing
isn't
really
an
option
sure
it
wasn't
really
an
option
and
then
yeah,
then
the
cla
came
up,
but
that
was.
A
G
E
I
haven't
had
the
explicit
conversation
about
flexibility.
The
only
conversation
I
had
was
you
kind
of
gotta.
You
have
to
keep
something
right
was
the
was
that
so
I
have
I
mean
I
can
I
can
reach
back
out
to
brian
and
see
what
he
thinks
about
this.
You
know
just
putting
it
in
the
readme
and
see
if
that's
okay,.
D
H
I
think
that,
in
the
spirit
of
duocracy
that
fixing
it
for
that
talking
to
linux
foundation,
about
changing
the
chaos
practice
might
lead
to
fixing
it
overall
for
other
linux
foundation
projects
and
embodies
that
kind
of
bottom
bottom-up
governance.
That
is,
you
know,
open
sourcing.
I
H
I
think
that
the
dcl
privileges
developers
coders
people
who
are
using
get
at
the
command
line
and
with
people
who
are
using
it
in
github,
using
the
ui
at
a
disadvantage
and
chaos's
mission
has
to
do
with
the
health
of
open
source
communities
as
a
whole,
which
includes
issues,
and
you
know,
project
management
as
a
whole.
And
so
it's
a
good
place
for
chaos
to
contribute
plus
100.
I
A
Rock
on
thanks
matt,
for
reaching
out
to
the
lf
about
that.
We
appreciate
that.
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
new
items,
let's
do
some
working
group
updates
for
the
group,
so
the
first
one
is
risk
sean.
You
got
anything
for
us.
I
Sure
the
risk
working
group
met
last
week.
I
believe
the
week
before
recently,
and
we
we
had
a
discussion
about
really
trying
to
understand,
get
our
head
around
what
we
think
of
metric
models,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
an
answer
yet,
but
we
have
started
thinking
about
it
and
entertaining
the
possibility
of
creating
metric
models.
I
think
I
can
say
the
group,
isn't
we
haven't
fully
gotten
our
collective
head
around
it
yet,
but
that's
kind
of
normal.
I
J
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
thinking
about
dependency
risk
in
the
context
of
metrics
model.
We
also
spent
some
time
thinking
about
what
metrics
you'd
want
to
include
in
that
metrics
model
and
identifying
things
that
weren't
yet
defined
as
metrics.
So
essentially,
defining
sub-metrics
is
part
of
the
metrics
model
process
and
one
might
be
something
like
how
we
want
to
flag
bug
resolution
versus
issue
resolution,
which
has
a.
J
And
looking
for
ways
that
we
could
actually
enumerate
that
which
I
think
is
probably
teed
up
for
our
next
discussion,
but
mostly
using
a
metrics
model
as
a
way
to
determine
what
were
the
key
metrics,
that
we
want
to
be
part
of
that
model
and
which
ones
were
not
yet
defined.
And
then
working
from
there.
A
I
Well,
our
metrics,
so
obviously
of
chaos
is
about
health
and
sustainability
of
open
source
software
and
the
risk
working
group,
I
think,
takes
a
either
an
ospo
or
a
tech
firm's.
I
I
would
say
kind
of
corporatized
view
of
things
that
could
pose
significant
business
risk
to
the
to
the
long-term
sustainability
of
whatever
it
is
your
your
organization
does.
So
some
of
those
risks
are
licensing.
So
we
have
a
number
of
metrics
already
defined
around
project,
licensing
and
file
licensing,
and
I
think
we
have
something.
That's
not
called
software
build
materials,
but
it's
very
close
to
that
concept
and
that
we
have
another
set
of
metrics
that
are
focused
on
software
dependencies,
which
have
become
really
for
the
last
year.
A
Thank
you
sean
sure,
since
we
have
you,
let's
move
on
to
evolution.
I
I
Mean
generally,
it's
like
kevin
and
I
and
manad
that
have
been
in
that,
and
that
mean
and
we're
just
sort
of
cranking
out
some
basic
metrics.
The
evolution
working
group
is
about
the
we
originally
called
it:
the
growth,
maturity
and
decline
working
group,
it's
really
about
providing
metrics
that
allow
you
to
see
how
your
project
is
evolving
over
time
with
regards
to
code
contributors,
issues
that
are
opening
so
that
you're
very
kind
of
what
I
would
call
your
your
core
activity.
I
Metrics
within
chaos,
are
generally
under
evolution
or,
if
they're,
not
there,
they're
under
common.
A
Okay,
great
thanks
sean
sure
moving
along
to
the
dei
working
group.
Anybody
want
to
take
a
stab
at
that
one.
E
I
can
go,
but
also
you
had.
I
think
you
have
an
item
in
here
elizabeth
with
that
the
form
the
participate
form.
A
Yeah,
so
in
the
dei
working
group
which
stands
for
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
we
are
talking
about
ways
to
help
the
onboarding
process
for
people
who
are
interested
in
joining
the
chaos
community.
A
One
thing
that
we
decided
to
do
is
provide
a
more
formal
way
for
someone
to
indicate
their
interest,
so
we
came
up
with
this
form
that
people
could
fill
out,
which
is
right.
No.
A
The
form
for
you,
okay,
no
worries-
I
should
have
put
it
in
here.
I
didn't
so
it's
just
a
quick
form
that
asks
for
some
basic
information,
some
areas
that
people
might
be
interested
in
contributing
in
and
we
put
it
on
twitter
and
we
added
it
to
the
newsletter
and
also,
I
believe,
the
mailing
list.
A
Maybe
I
don't
remember
now,
but
we
had
14
responses.
We
just
did
this
last
week.
I
think
a
couple
of
people
have
shown
their
faces
and
their
names
in
slack,
and
one
of
them
is
here
today
as
well,
and
I
you
know
I
will
reach
out
to
someone
who
then
fills
out
the
form
I'll
reach
out
with
a
personal
email
based
on
kind
of
what
they
are
looking
to
do
and
what
they
how
they
would
like
to
help.
So
that's
pretty
good.
A
I
think
it
was
kind
of
cool
to
see
that
so,
hopefully,
some
of
those
people
will
stick
around
and
continue
to
to
participate
and
get
to
know,
chaos
and
get
to
know
our
community
and
then
can
figure
out
a
a
specific
way
that
they
would
like
to
help
out.
So.
C
F
Yeah
for
sure
I
have
an
orthogonal
question
so
if,
if
someone's
new
and
they
join
in
addition
to
the
form,
is
there
information
where
they
could
see
the
areas
they
could
get
involved
and
how
to
get
involved?
Perhaps
if
they
want
to
know
that
before
deciding
whether
to
commit
or
not.
A
So
that's
something
that
we
are
working
on.
I
think
matt
cantu
who's
on
this
call
is
working
on
a
kind
of
a
nice
landing
page
for
people
to
have
like
a
better.
What
sort
I
want
flow
chart
or
or
tree,
or
something
to
help
them
decide
where
to
go
right.
Now
we
have
this
participate
page,
which
is
let's
see
if
I
can,
which
is,
is
a
lot.
J
A
You
know
kind
of
get
a
start
somewhere
and
then
we
have
the
calendar
of
events
and
then
we
have
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
our
working
groups
at
the
bottom
here.
But
as
far
as
you
know,
like
specific
things,
we
don't
really
have
that
outlined
anywhere
right
now,.
F
Yeah
I
saw
this
page
and-
and
I
thought
this
was
great,
but
I
was
thinking
some
additional
value
might
be
hey.
Here's
a
good
first
ticket.
If
you
want
to
try
something
or
hey,
have
you
thought
about
doing
x
and
I'd
be
happy
to
help
with
that
yeah.
K
Let's
get
in
contact,
I
I
just
posted
in
the
chat
here
the
kind
of
the
prototype
version
of
the
page
that
we're
building
it's
very
early,
of
course,
but
it
says
basically
you
say
I
want
to
do
this.
I
want
to
do
this
and
you
click
on
it
and
then
it
brings
you
to
the
best
resources
we
have
for
that.
K
C
A
A
So
yeah
this
is
really
great.
Matt.
E
I
have
one
comment
which
is
and
maybe
matt
and
libby
you
can
kind
of
think
about
this,
which
is
we
have
the
web
page
that
elizabeth
is
showing
and
then
we
have
the
github
org
and
they're,
like
you
know,
they're
kind
of
two
different
things
but
they're
kind
of
together.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
to
how
to
draw
those
together.
What.
E
I
We
could
create
like,
if
you
click
on
the
first
issue,
that
link
will
is
a
persistent
link
to
all
of
the
good
first
issues
for
that
repo.
For
that
right.
That
is
well.
I
wonder
if
that's
something
that
you
can
create
at
the
organization
level,
I
haven't
done
that
before
I
don't
know.
If
I'll
look
into
it,
I
would
want
that
to
be
a
thing
if
I
were
dreaming
streaming
up
a
git
hosting
website,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
was
a
thing.
I
A
Do
we
think
do
do
we
need
like
a
more
formal
team
to
work
on
this
onboarding
stuff
or
matt?
Are
you
like?
I
don't
want
it
to
dump
all
on
like.
I
I
would
like
I
mean
I've,
been
thinking
about
ramping
up
a
discussion
around
software,
and
I
had
a
few
conversations
that
number
summit
with
folks
who
are
working
on
metric
software
of
different
kinds.
Some
of
it
is
auger
related.
Some
of
it
is
independent.
I
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
pieces
of
software
growing
up
around
the
metric
space
that
we're
in
right
now,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
one
path
to
to
that
kind
of
contribution
might
just
be
helping
to
support
newcomers
and
and
certainly
making
the
issues
more
easily
navigable
for
a
newcomer
would
be
something
I
can
try
to
look
into.
I
can
take
that
as
an
action
item
for
next
week.
K
There's
also,
I
we
originally
brought
up
the
the
onboarding
team
and
the
idea
was
matt
matt
cantus.
Now
me
was
going
to
bring
out
some
of
this
and
see
if
it's
interesting
to
the
community.
It
looks
like
we've
identified
a
need
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
see
about
putting
together
some
kind
of
group
that
might
meet,
or
even
just
an
informal
asynchronous
group
on
this.
C
K
We
will
look
back
at
that
and
go
like,
of
course,
I'll
bring
some
materials
I'll
bring
some
materials
and
some
structure
to
the
dei
group.
This
tomorrow,
okay,.
G
I
just
posted
a
link
to
github
search
that
allows
us
to
find
all
of
the
good
first
issues
across
your
post.
Oh.
I
I
I
It's,
why
are
we
loving
it.
G
I
A
It
should
have
been
status.
I
don't
know
that
makes
sense
to
me
gosh
anyway.
Okay,
thank
you
don.
Thank
you,
matt
thanks
everybody
else.
The
dei
working
group
is
meeting
now.
I
should
open
this
participate
page
every
single
time,
so
we
can
just
quickly
see
that
meets
tomorrow
at
10
a.m.
U.S
central.
A
A
Eventually,
I
try
to
be
timely,
sometimes
I'm
more
timely
than
others,
but
yeah.
So
you
can
always
go
back
and
watch.
If
you
have
an
extra
50
minutes,
you
don't
have
anything
to
do.
You
can
just
watch
what
you
missed
so
okay.
I
think
what
else
did
we?
So
we
didn't
really
actually
talk
about
the
dei
group.
We
talked
about
the
form
and
onboarding,
so.
E
I
think
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add
was
just
we
are
working
on
a
few
metrics
one
that
code
of
conduct
metric,
that's
one
of
our
original
metrics
and
dei.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
show
people
we
are
working
through
revisiting
this
metric
and
I
I
think
we
started
with
code
of
conduct
because
we
didn't
think
it
would
be
that
much
of
a
change,
and
this
is
just
to
show
you
as
we
kind
of
read
the
existing
metric
where,
where
we're
at
with
respect
to
just
revisiting
it.
E
So
this
is
just
a
a
call
to
all
working
groups
again
to
think
think
about
the
metrics
that
you've
released
prior
and
and
revisit
them
to
see
if
the
narrative
is
is
still
good.
G
And
I
would
encourage
people.
This
is
a
great
way
to
get
involved.
So
if
you
see
a
metric
that
you
have
opinions
about
ways
that
maybe
we
could
improve
it
while
we're
revisiting
a
lot
of
the
metrics
would
be,
it
would
be
a
great
time.
So
that's
a
great
way
to
to
get
engaged
for
sure
to
the
community.
A
A
Okay,
so
down
here
we
were
talking
about
the
metrics
that
we
review
and
we
we
realized.
We
didn't
really
have
a
consistent
criteria
of
what
metrics
should
be
the
ones
that
we're
reviewing
like.
Does
it
you
know,
is
it
relay
cycles?
Is
it
years?
Is
it
last
commit?
So
this
is
something
we
should
sort
out
so
that
we
can
be
consistent
across
working
groups,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
sort
that
out
right
this
second
or
if
we
want
to
table
that
until
or
hold
on.
A
E
I
think
I
okay,
I
see
the
question
like.
A
A
Oh,
they
were
new
enough
or
whatever.
So
maybe
we'll
wait
on
that
since
it's
already
half
passed
yeah.
J
I
have
a
question
before
that.
I
guess:
is
there
a
way
to
pull
sort
of
the
overall
ages
of
all
the
metrics,
because
then
we
can
figure
out
what
lines
make
sense
for
us
and
for
each
working
group,
because
I'm
not
actually
sure
what
the
sort
of
the
time
distribution
is
of
metrics
creation
of
having
joined
the
project
only
last
year.
A
J
You
were
talking
about
sophia,
I
it
would
going
forward,
I'm
not,
would
it
populate
all
the
old
ones,
because
then
it
would
provide
it,
because
I
think,
if
we're
trying
to
pick
a
cut
off,
that's
consistent,
then
we'd
want
to
look
at
all
of
the
data
to
see
what
would
be
reasonable
for
each
group
and.
A
That's
what
I
was
thinking
it
might
have
to
be
an
process,
but.
I
A
A
We
can
think
about
that
a
little
more
how
that
would
work
if
somebody
wants
to
do
it
manually,
awesome
that
would
be
kind
of
tedious,
but
it
is
kind
of
a
an
easy
thing
to
to
do
if
somebody
is
new
and
wanted
to
have
a
job
wanted
to
volunteer
something
so
yeah.
C
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing,
since
we
are
talking
about
the
spreadsheet
too,
so
we
are
thinking
of
adding
one
column.
I
was
proposing
one
more
column.
I
know
it
will
make
complicated,
but
it
will
be
helpful
since
we
are
revising
the
metric
and
we
are
doing
it
in
the
word.
Google
doc
again
so
having
a
column
of
google
doc
that
where
we
are
revising,
that
metric
will
be
helpful
in
the
spreadsheet
is
my
suggestion.
A
C
Right
now,
once
the
metric
is
released,
the
link
shows
for
the
website
or
the
github,
where
the
metric
is
residing
as
a
release
metric,
but
we
don't
have
a
link
for
the
google
doc
where
we
are
updating
or
revising
the
already
released
backpack.
So
having
that
column,
the
google
doc
link
will
be
helpful.
A
K
Oh
I'm
the
blob
fish,
I
think-
and
I
was
I
was
totally
going
on
my
own
throughout
anyway.
C
A
A
All
right,
you
can
now
pin
or
spot
like
most
people
all
right
thanks,
okay,
common
so
don's,
not
here,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I
think
she
left
right
planning
to
revisit
previously
released
metrics
with
what
we've
learned.
Okay
and
the
occasional
contributors
is
what
they're
working
on
right
now.
E
Yep
and
just
a
one
point
on
that,
this
is
another
thing
we're
doing
with
with
newcomers
so
regina
and
I
are
working
on
occasional
contributors
and
so
for
folks
that
have
been
in
the
community
for
a
while.
If
there
are
action
items
that
seem
sensible
to
have
a
couple,
people
on
you
know
offer
to
to
work
with
somebody
who
may
be
new
to
the
community
to
kind
of
help.
A
A
C
Yeah,
so
maybe
I'll
start
with
the
10
second
elevator
pitch
value,
working
progress,
focus
on
understanding
the
value
of
project
to
different
stakeholders,
feed
to
the
individual
organization
academicians
or
so
maybe
a
variety
of
stakeholders,
so
community,
that's!
What
is
the
focus
of
working
group
is
right.
Now
the
value
working
group
is
more
focused
on
developing
metrics,
around
academic
or
the
academic
side
of
contribution
like
how
cad
machines
are
making
contribution
to
open
source
and
how
this
is
supporting
them
in
their
tenure
process
or
in
their
growth
space.
C
So
a
lot
of
focus
is
on
that
side
of
work
and
there's
a
oscar
plus
plus
a
catholic
meeting
on
november
11,
which
will
help
us
to
think
through
further
and
grow
the
matrix
on
those
lines,
and
we
are
also
planning
to
revisit
the
old
matrix.
So
the
one
on
the
list
is
labor
investment
and
the
attach
is
the
google
doc
for
that
and
in
the
last
meeting
due
to
regular
members,
it
was
not
done
like
members
were
not
there
only.
I
myself
and
stephen
was
there.
A
This
ospo,
plus
plus
academic
meeting,
is
that
is
that
a
chaos
thing
or
is
that
something
else.
E
A
Thank
you
and
value
is
also
looking
at
old
metrics
as
well.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
looking
at
labor
investment,
that's
something
that
they're
working
on
currently
and
value
actually
meets
next
week.
Not
this
week
we
should
have
mentioned
common
meats
on
thursday,
but
value
will
meet
next
week
dei
meets
every
week.
A
K
Sure
yeah,
so
we
are
the
elevator
pitches
that
were
a
initiative
of
the
chaos
project
closely
tied
in
with
the
dei
working
group
that
provides
badges
to
event
organizers
for
their
events,
so
they
may
so
they
may
show
them
to
people
and
say
we
have
good
dei.
K
K
We
updated
a
bunch
of
stuff
in
the
documentation
in
the
readme
and
that
we,
this
is
our
first
release
where
we
adhered
to
the
free
system
and
it
was.
It
was
a
kind
of
a
practice
release,
but
we
got
a
lot
done
in
the
process
of
that
as
well.
K
So
yeah
we're
just
we're
just
kind
of
focusing
on
building
our
goals
for
the
next
release,
which
is
going
to
most
likely
be
in
april.
That's
all.
A
A
A
Actually,
I
have
a
question
matt.
Are
you
still
looking
for
reviewers
or
how's
that
that
going.
K
Always
I
was
looking
for
new
viewers
just
so
that
we
put
less
load
on
the
people
who
are
already
doing
it.
Basically,
and
it's
it's
it's
about
a
20
hour,
not
20
minute
a
week,
commitment
on
average
20
hours
to
be
a
lot
more
for
volunteer
thing,
but
basically,
if
you're
interested
I'll
I'll
send
the
form
out
in
the
chat
here
and
we
have
an
orientation
session.
And
then
it's
a
pretty.
It's
been
historically
pretty
easy
to
pick
up
so
yeah
I'll
put
the
up
with
the
foreman
for
anyone.
A
Thank
you,
matt.
All
right
I
see
proposing
this
was
what
anonymous
blobfish
was.
Writing.
Yes,
matt.
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
more
about
this
matt
snow?
Sorry,
matt!
Can't
you.
K
Yeah
well,
actually,
I'm
an
anonymous
blob
fish,
but
thank
you
for
breaking
right
now,
so
so
yeah
you.
K
I
was
wondering
I
was
kind
of
thinking
this
is.
This
is
a
kind
of
crammed
meeting
at
this
point
when
it
comes
to
reporting
everything
back
from
every
working
group.
Maybe
we
could
have-
and
we
do
also
have
some
meetings
with
where
we
go
like
30
minutes
and
then
have
nothing
else
to
talk
about.
Maybe
we
could.
K
This
is
kind
of
a
longer
term
question,
but
maybe
we
could
space
out
our
reports
to
have
maybe
one
or
two
reports
per
week
instead
of
having
mult
like
all
of
them
at
once
on
one
day,
and
then
we
don't
get
to
talk
about
anything
else.
A
A
I
will
also
give
that
person
a
little
bit
more
of
a
heads
up
than
like,
oh
yeah,
by
the
way
the
meeting's
starting
and
you
need
to
give
an
update
right
now
on
your
working
group.
So
how
about
it
yeah,
I
think
that'll
be
good,
and
then
we
can
have
like
a
schedule
or
whatever
so
cool,
all
right,
great
idea,
matt!
Thank
you.
A
This
one
was
from
so
all
right.
We
talked
about
the
update
on
community
forum
already
I
see
this
one
is
a
new
addition
to
the
agenda
and
also
the
last
one,
and
we
have
six
minutes.
J
I
I
added
that,
mostly
just
because
we
had
talked
about
it
briefly
a
few
weeks
ago
and
then
not
actually
committed
to
anything.
So
if
we
do
want
to
have
an
event
around
fosdem,
then
we
should
probably
start
moving
on
it.
Just
in
terms
of
promotion.
J
I
am
going
to
be
out
next
week
on
vacation,
so
I
won't
be
able
to
do
a
lot,
but
I
feel
like
if
I
was
going
to
assign
any
sort
of
request.
It
would
be.
Let's
pick
the
week
in
terms
of
we
wanted
to
be
before
or
after
because
foster
is
over
the
weekend.
I
had
one
idea
that
I
wanted
to
kind
of
float
to
the
the
broader
team.
J
Initially
we
had
thought
we
could
re-air
some
of
the
the
most
popular
sessions
from
our
event,
maybe
have
a
couple
of
live
qas
depending
on
the
availability
of
folks.
So
I
would
want
to
start
that
feelers
with
all
the
presenters
to
see
who
is
available.
When
I
was
also
thinking
that
we
had
some
feedback
in
the
forum
around
more
interactive
sessions,
it
could
be
a
bit
disruptive,
which
is
why
I
want
to
bring
it
up
in
a
community
setting
where
people
can
shoot
it
down
and
or
talk
through
what
makes
more
sense.
J
But
knowing
that,
if
we're
all
virtual,
all
of
our
meetings
are
virtual.
Anyway,
we
could
basically
do
like
a
pseudo
chaos
week
where
we
could
have
all
of
our
working
group
meetings
happening
in
the
same
week.
J
So
if
we
did
have
say
monday
is
sort
of
our
like
event
day
where
we
go
through
a
bunch
of
a
few
presentations
and
discussions
and
then
say
basically
have
like
a
special
edition
of
all
of
our
working
group
meetings
that
are
more
intentionally
open
and
workshop
based
in
case
folks,
want
to
dial
in
and
have
sort
of
the
the
working
group
and
discussion
experience,
but
then
led
by
the
actual
working
groups
themselves.
We
realized
I
realize
that
some
of
them
meet
by
weekly,
so
it
might
not
necessarily
jive
with
everyone's
schedule.
J
But
that
way
I
thought
it
could
leverage
time
that
we've
already
allocated
for
it
versus
say
creating
new
time,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
I
thought
it
could
basically
end
up
being
a
week
of
virtual
chaos
con
things,
but
that's
that's
a
lot
and
that's
also
three
months.
So
is
that
something
we
want
to
do
if
we're
interested.
E
J
We
would
feature
feature
our
our
regular
meetings,
but
then
everyone,
who's,
leading
those
meetings,
would
know
that
that
would
be
sort
of
a
special
week
of
meetings
and
that
we
potentially
could
have
more
of
a
structured
plan
or
discussion
for
each
of
them.
That
we
would
advertise
up
front
say
for
the
risk
working
group
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
concept
or
this
metric
as
a
way
to
like
we.
J
J
More
planned
and
structured,
which
could
make
it
more
accessible
for
folks
that
are
dialing
in
and
just
kind
of
want
to
kind
of
want
to
come
in.
For
that
workshop
you
feel,
but
not
necessarily
because
I
feel
like
sometimes
just
joining
a
working
group,
you're
you're
losing
a
lot
of
context,
you're
just
kind
of
jumping
into
something
mid-conversation,
whereas
if
we
plan
it
ahead,
we
could
plan
to
have
more
structured
conversations
that
we
would
advertise
up
front.
E
I
like
that
idea,
it's
a
little
bit
different
too
than
like
how
we
do
the
reporting
here
on
the
working
group.
So,
for
example,
like
we
talk
a
lot
about
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
but
not
what
we're
planning
on
doing
in
the
coming
week-
and
I
like
that
like
if
you
want
to
talk
about
dependencies
here,
you
go
if
you
want
to
revisit
dei
badging
or
whatever.
Here
you
go,
I
like
that
idea.
D
J
We
haven't
okay,
I
was
thinking
no
more
than
a
couple
of
hours.
We
did
have
some
feedback
that
the
virtual
sessions
were
too
long
for
the
pre-recorded
ones
right.
So
I
was
thinking
I
wanted
to
do
something
a
bit
more
interactive.
I
hear
I
see
the
all
synchronous
comment.
I
was
thinking
about
that,
given
that
everything
is
virtual,
we
would
try
to
pick
times
when
everyone
could
be
there.
J
So
maybe
we
could
do
sort
of
the
lightning
version
of
someone's
talk
and
then
they're
they're
available
for
more
of
like
a
qa
panel.
So
that
way
we
could
potentially
just
have
more
interactive
sessions,
but
I
I
don't
think
it
could
be
very
long
like
I
was
thinking
like
max
two
hours
at
any
point
in
time,
just
because
it's
all
virtual
and
then
maybe
space
it
out
over
the
week.
D
Yeah,
no,
I
I
mean
there
was
an
event
that
I
unfortunately
wasn't
able
to
attend.
It
was
interesting.
It
was
all
virtual,
but
it
was
over
three
days,
but
each
day
it
was
only
like
two
hours.
So
you're
not
like
you
know,
you're,
not
carving
out
like
a
big
chunk
of
your
day.
D
So
I
don't
know
if
it
it.
I
think
it
was
like
pretty
early
for
me
in
the
pacific
time
zone.
It
was
like
six
to
eight
a.m,
pacific
time,
but
you
can
sort
of
pick
and
choose
the
slots
you
want
to
go
to,
but
you're
not
blocking
off
your
whole
day
right
so
conceivably.
I
like
the
idea
of
maybe
kicking
off
on
monday,
and
then
we
can
even
use
this
time
slot
on
tuesday
as
as
part
of
the
session
right,
but
that's
that's
an
option.
Maybe
we
do
it
over
two
days.
D
H
J
And
some
in
asia
pacific.
So
if
we
want
to
have
any
of
them
joining
in
live
forms,
then
that
kind
of
might
dictate
our
schedule
a
bit.
So
in
terms
of
like
are
the
panelists
qas
will
be
at
this
time
and
then,
maybe
later
in
the
day,
there's
a
a
working
group
session,
that's
already
scheduled,
and
so
it
just
kind
of
becomes
a
more
a
more
promotional
version
of
our
usual
week.
J
J
D
So
the
I
don't
mean
to
complicate
this
like
I
was
going
to
bring
up
folks
in
china.
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
like
maybe
we
do
like
on
monday,
like
late
in
the
day,
pacific
time
to
be
inclusive
of
people
in
china,
but
I'm
seeing
that
chinese
new
year's
is
february
first,
so
that
kind
of
throws
a
wrench
into
things,
because
they're
shut
down
for
like
two
weeks.
D
A
Okay,
well,
we
can
think
about
this
a
little
bit
more
and
do
some
double
checking
with
other
calendars,
make
sure
holidays
and
things
like
that.
That
also
does
not
give
us
a
ton
of
time
to
get
it
together
after
the
holidays
after
the
end
of
the
year.
So,
but
just
something
to
think
about,
we
can
figure
this
out,
not
a
big
deal.