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From YouTube: CCS BOE Meeting 10.6.2022
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A
Will
tell
our
special
meeting
for
the
sixth
to
order.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
know:
we've
got
eight
candidates
to
interview
tonight
and
thank
you
so
much
all
of
you
candidates
for
taking
the
time
to
fill
those
out
and
have
an
interest
in
our
public
education
system,
especially
Chatham
County
Schools.
So
thank
you.
So
much
I
wanted
to
mention
a
couple
things
well
before
I
go
any
further.
Let
me
get
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
most
of
the
second
all
in
favor
with
an
eye
all
right.
A
A
Of
course,
we're
filling
the
unexpired
term
of
Miss
Melissa
lavik,
and
that
will
be
in
2024
when
she's
back
up
for
real
action,
then
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
in
particular,
our
I
would
ask
as
we
move
through
this
and
we'll
do
this
deliberately
we're
going
to
ask
the
same
questions
of
all
candidates.
We'll
ask
each
candidate
five
questions
and
at
the
beginning,
when
we
and
we're
going
to
start
alphabetically,
of
course
with
the
candidates.
But
when
we
start,
we
would
give
you
three
to
five
minutes
to
introduce
yourself.
A
Just
tell
us
anything
particularly
you'd
like
us
to
know
about
you
and
then
we
will
start
the
questions
and
get
you
to
answer
those
and
we're
looking
at
Mr.
Blice
is
our
timekeeper
and
we
would
ask
probably
if
you
could
answer
the
question
in
two
minutes.
That
would
be
great
and
we'll
just
keep
moving
from
there
and
then
once
you're
finished.
A
We
would
ask
you
if
you
would
to
go
back
in
in
the
room
again
and
at
the
end
of
the
process
we
will
come
to
a
hopefully
a
decision
as
to
our
board
member
next
board.
Member
would
would
be
we
would
have
a
motion
from
the
board.
A
second
any
discussion
and,
of
course,
vote
on
that,
in
particular,
did
I
cover
everything
else.
Okay,
oh,
let's
see
I
think
we're
ready.
A
B
A
B
C
C
Better
now,
yes,
I
graduated
three
days
at
the
high
school
graduation
I,
went
to
the
Marine
Corps
and
went
to
Marine
Corps
number
one
to
serve
my
country
and
also
I
want
to
be
independent
and
also
to
pay.
For
my
own
education.
I
know
the
Marine
Corps
the
VA
had
programs
that
would
sponsor
a
veterans
education.
So,
during
my
six
and
a
half
years,
Marine
Corps
I
took
classes
corresponding
classes.
C
Delaware
I
had
the
opportunity
with
my
wife
to
go
to
Luxembourg
for
12
years
and
we
just
repatriated
in
April,
and
that
was
the
greatest
experience
to
for
me
as
an
American
to
live
abroad
and
to
deal
with
the
multiple
cultural
environment.
You're
talking
about
dealing
with
the
French
German
and
Dutch
Italians,
and
you
had
to
be
efficient
and
get
your
job
done.
Dealing
with
multiple
people
with
multiple
different
cultures.
C
I
think
my
background
from
education.
My
background
for
the
Marine
Corps
really
put
me
in
a
position
to
be
successful
during
my
12
years
on
Luxembourg,
but
I
wanted
to
come
back
home
and
my
wife.
Now
we
did
some
due
diligence
and
we
chose
Chapel
Hill
to
be
our
home.
One
of
the
key
reasons
is
that
the
environment,
the
culture
of
North
Carolina,
is
a
great
place
to
be
the
people.
A
lot
of
things
to
do,
I've
been
to
thank
my
wife.
We
made
a
great
decision
to
move
here.
C
One
of
the
key
reasons
I
want
to
come
here
too,
is
also
to
get
back
into
my
charity
and
to
volunteer
I'm
a
mentor
at
the
communities
in
school
program
for
chattan
County
I.
Just
have
my
first
mentee
I've
been
working
with
him
for
about
almost
two
months
now
and
really
gave
me
a
sense
of
worth
and
a
sense
of
Pride.
So
I
now
had
opportunity
to
go
back
and
give
something
to
other
people
to
let
them
know
that
you
know
Public
Schools.
C
This
institution
is
a
great
place
because
you
have
faculty,
you
have
staff,
you
have
people
do
not
come
here
for
the
money
they
come
here
to
cost
the
love,
but
education
and
the
love
of
having
students
and
to
make
them
make
sure
they
can
prosper,
make
sure
they
have
the
necessary
tools.
Social
tools
to
go
out
either
continue
to
education,
to
work
and
also
more,
it's
important
to
be
a
good
citizen.
C
Now,
from
that
point,
I'm
here
I
had
a
friend
that
called
a
associate.
That
called
me
and
asked
me
to
apply.
I
didn't
really
know
how
to
take
it,
but
it
was
a
positive
thing
and
after
doing
my
research
the
past
couple
weeks,
it
would
be
an
honor
to
be
on
the
board.
Nothing
because
of
my
drive,
my
advocacy
for
Education
being
a
good
citizen
and
making
sure
that
all
students
have
what
they
need
to
go
out
once
they
live
here,
to
be
prosperous,
to
be
independent
and
to
be
good
citizens.
A
C
A
C
Would
like
to
be
a
board
member
based
on
the
research
that
I've
done
and
look
at
some
of
these
surveys
that
I
read
about
teachers,
one
in
particular,
where
the
two
years
ago
had
100
confidence
in
the
leadership
of
the
board
and
that's
to
me.
This
is
a
lot
about
the
job
that
you're
doing
and
and
also
the
superintendent
Dr
Jackson,
and
it
would
allow
me
to
get
back
to
my
charity.
What
I
want
to
do
to
volunteer,
to
help
form
and
to
help
students
to
achieve
some
great
things
in
life
and
I.
C
Think
this
part
two
is
what
I
want
to
achieve.
I
have
a
a
lot
of
knowledge
in
the
technology
and
not
I,
know
how
to
deal
with
multiple
culturals
environment.
I.
Think
my
my
experience
abroad.
My
military
experience
would
give
me
the
tools
to
work
with
you,
the
members
and
and
continuing
providing
a
solid
basic
education
for
all
students
to
make
sure
they
have
what
they
need
to
prosper
and
to
move
forward
in
life
wherever
this,
wherever
they
decide
to
go.
E
C
I
think
my
leadership
skills
will
be
a
great
value
to
to
the
to
the
board.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
I
read
all
your
non-different
policy,
general
policies
and
dealing
with
you
know,
students
faculties,
and
how
can
I
leverage
my
my
leadership
skills
and
helping
you
to
attain
your
your
goals,
and
one
of
your
key
goals
is
make
sure
that
every
student
has
a
sound,
sound
pilot,
positive
education,
education
for
the
schools
and
where
I
can
achieve
that
is
to
work.
F
C
I
mean
every
place
going
to
have
some
issues,
but
I
think
that
the
one
Chatham
five
years,
strategic
plan
that
you
put
in
place
this
year,
I
think
it
really
sets
out
your
strategy
for
the
next
five
years.
What's
your
plan
support
for,
but
it
just
I
mean
I
mean
the
Bible
errors
that
you
focus
on
is
curriculum,
Innovation
student,
health
and
safety,
faculty
and
staff.
You
have
communications
and
sharing
information.
Those
things
that
you
have
in
that
strategy.
It's
gonna
it
will
help.
C
Put
you
even
higher
in
other
districts
in
the
state.
I
know
right
now.
Teachers
shortage
is
a
major
issue
in
some
districts
across
the
state,
but
I
think
from
my
reading,
I
think
the
last.
What
I
saw
maybe
35
that's
one
of
the
lowest
numbers
across
across
the
state,
I
think
going
forward.
That
may
be
an
issue,
so
I
think
maybe
some
where,
where
can
we
strategize
and
say
make
sure
we
have
enough
teachers
to
make
sure
we
have
our
students
covered
for
their
education?
C
G
Thank
you
and
I'm
next
and
I'm
Jane
Allen
Wilson,
and
welcome
and
I
also
reiterate
gratitude
that
you've
applied,
and
so
my
question
that
I
have
for
you
is
to
briefly
describe
your
involvement
with
public
schools
in
Chatham,
County
or
elsewhere,
and
what
work
have
you
already
done?
That
has
prepared
you
for
a
position
on
the
school
board
so
as
specific
as
possible?
Okay,.
C
Oh
schools
and
schools
in
general,
so
okay,
schools
in
general,
I
go
back
to
my
my
published
high
school
days,
just
the
the
attention,
the
care
that
the
facility
and
staff
offered
me
and
has
been
a
public
student
that
they
gave
me
the
encouragement
to
continue
with
my
education.
That
wasn't
that's
one
thing
across
the
board
from
my
high
school
days,
all
my
my
teachers,
my
coaches,
it
kept
encouragement.
My
counselor
can,
whatever
you
do
stand
is
continue
with
your
education
and
that's
one
thing
that
bring
forward
this.
C
That
really
helped
me
to
move
forward
with
my
life
and
it's
so
important
to
make
sure
that
all
students
have
the
same
opportunity.
The
same
support
that
I
had
in
school
that
continued
your
education,
it's
a
lifelong
learning,
Focus
at
my
undergraduate
school
and
Williamson
University.
The
same
thing:
I
had
great
professors
and
going
through
my
Executive
MBA
program
at
University
of
Delaware.
C
Always
education
is
key.
Education
is
the
foundation
for
you
to
build
on,
and
you
think
you
can
carry
with
you
for
the
rest
of
your
life
and
from
that
perspective,
I
want
to
be
able
to
give
public
school
students
all
public
school
student,
whose
students
the
support
that
I
had
as
a
as
a
young
adult,
and
that's
an
acid,
though
even
different,
excuse
level
that
hey
you
can
be
anything
you
want
to
be
in
life,
but
you
need
to
have
a
good,
solid
education.
C
A
C
A
C
A
B
A
B
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
our
next
candidate
is
Julie
rogersstein
and
we
just
appreciate
so
much
you
taking
the
time
to
fill
out
the
paperwork
and
and
come
in
for
an
opportunity
to
help
Chatham
County
Schools.
So
we
appreciate
all
this.
If
we
we
can
we'll
just
open
up
with
just
a
brief
introduction.
35
minutes
tell
us
about
yourself
what
you
want
us
to
know
and
then
we'll
each
ask
a
question
and
I'll
ask
one
another:
five
questions:
okay,.
I
I
Following
a
little
over
five
years,
I
moved
to
Lincoln
Nebraska,
with
my
husband
and
I
opened
my
own
law
practice
in
Nebraska
I
focused
on
Indigent
defense
cases
for
adults
and
juveniles.
I
also
worked
as
a
guardian
ad
litem
for
the
court
and
abuse
and
neglect
proceedings
and
represented
parents
and
abuse
in
the
collective
proceedings.
We
will
be
relocated
with
our
family
to
North
Carolina
in
2013.,
I
moved
Chatham
County
in
2014,
been
in
the
same
house
since
then,
in
2016
I
started
a
position
at
the
North
Carolina
innocence
and
pre-commission.
I
It
is
the
only
state-run
agency
in
the
country
that
works
to
investigate
post-conviction
claims
of
innocence
and,
as
one
of
the
attorneys
I
would
be
assigned
to
a
case,
an
investigative
fully
if
I
found
evidence
of
actual
innocence.
There
was
a
process
with
the
commission
where
we
could
present
the
case.
If
the
Commissioners
made
certain
findings,
it
could
move
forward
to
a
three-judge
panel
and
the
end
result
was
that
people
could
be
exonerated
and
declared
innocent.
I
recently
switched
to
the
North
Carolina
prisoner
legal
services
in
Raleigh.
I
I
I
I
Something
else
that
is
also
clear
is
when
you
look
at
the
background
of
people
who
come
into
the
criminal
justice
system,
they've
experienced
multiple
adverse
childhood
experiences
or
events
and
I
think
that
what
I've
realized
is
that
the
way
to
combat
issues
like
this
that
happen
later
in
society
is
to
focus
more
on
public
schools
and
to
focus
early
on
that's
the
time
when
you
can
truly
make
a
difference.
You
talk
about
increasing
the
rate
of
high
school
graduation
and
it
sounds
great
because
it's
good
for
society.
I
We
all
know
we
want
more
high
school
graduates,
but
you
are
much
less
likely
to
be
incarcerated
in
your
lifetime
if
you
graduate
from
high
school.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
should
focus
on
things
like
that,
trying
to
improve
the
education,
not
just
the
academic
side,
but
the
whole
child,
the
social,
the
emotional
well-being
of
children
trying
to
help
those
who
need
help
not
just
in
the
classroom
but
who
might
be
having
problems
at
home.
E
I
I
F
I
Okay
I
think
well,
given
what
has
happened
over
the
last
two
years.
There's
a
learning
loss
that
all
children
are
experiencing,
it's
not
just
in
Chatham
County,
but
it
is
around
the
country,
it's
probably
even
worldwide.
So
that's
a
unique
Challenge
and
I
think
that
that's
probably
the
most
Crossing.
Obviously
things
come
with
that.
You
know
teacher
retention
and
other
things,
but
you
said
the
single
most.
So
that's
what
I
would
say.
G
So
hello
and
welcome,
thank
you
for
applying
and
being
interested
in
serving
I'm
Jane
Allen
Wilson,
and
my
question
here
is
briefly:
describe
your
involvement
with
public
schools
in
Chatham,
County
or
elsewhere,
and
work.
What
work
have
you
already
done
that
has
prepared
you
for
a
position
on
the
school
board.
I
I
B
I
Yeah
I
have
a
very
flexible
job
right
now:
I'm
part-time
remote
and
that's
going
to
stay
so
I'm
able
to
work
from
home
about
three
days
a
week.
I
I
choose
to
go
in
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
but
I
can
work
from
home
at
least
three
days
a
week.
There
are
many
people
in
my
office
who
have
commitments
to
Public
Service
things
outside
and
my
boss
is
very
understanding.
I
A
I
Just
that
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
one
Chatham
promise
that
you
guys
have
put
together,
the
school
system
is
doing
and
I
was
very
impressed
and
I
think
that
it
is
taking
the
schools
in
a
very
good
direction.
I
appreciate
that
you
had
identified
five
different
areas:
you're,
not
just
focusing
on
academics
or
curriculum
you're,
focusing
on
basically
the
whole
child
and
I
think
other
challenges
that
are
facing
Chatham
County
are
pretty
obvious
to
people
who
live
in
Chatham
County,
which
is
that
this
county
is
growing.
I
If
I
could
I
would
give
all
teachers
a
huge
raise
right
off
the
bat
that
includes
staff
and
administration
as
well,
but
I
think
that
that
should
always
be
a
focus
of
the
school
board
is
because
I
know
what
it
is
like
to
do.
A
public
interest
job,
because
you
love
it
and
I
know
what
it's
like
to
also
feel
like.
You,
don't
necessarily
get
paid
for
the
work
that
you
do.
B
H
A
And
Mr
Scott
around.
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
to
fill
out
everything
and
the
interest
in
our
public
school
system
and,
of
course,
just
for
being
here
tonight,
we'll
open
it
up
for
about
35
minutes.
You
just
tell
us
what
anything
you
need
us
to
hear
and
then
we'll
each
ask
a
question.
I'll
ask
a
final
one:
later
beautiful.
J
Yeah,
my
name
is
Henry
Calderon
I
was
not
born
in
this
country.
I
was
born
in
the
Dominican.
Republic
came
to
the
U.S
early
80s
into
New
York,
like
most
of
the
Dominicans.
It
seems
like
moved
to
Boston
in
the
late
80s,
where
I
went
to
attended
middle
school.
High
school
I've
joined
the
National
guard.
There
I
went
to
college
frame
and
stayed.
There
met
my
wife.
There,
then
we'd
ventured
to
several
locations
throughout
the
U.S.
My
son
was
born.
My
oldest
son
was
born
in
Miami.
J
B
J
Yeah,
absolutely
so
I've
serving
my
community
is
something
that's
been
important
to
my
family,
my
wife
and
I
in
particular.
We're
both
immigrants,
like
I
mentioned,
while
in
Boston
I
served
in
several
non-profit
organizations
to
include
local,
wise,
much
greater
YMCA,
Corporation
and
also
a
private
school
public
high
school
in
Andover
Massachusetts,
which
is
a
feeder
school
to
Phillips
Academy.
J
You
know
coming
from
another
country,
we
required
needed
a
lot
of
help
to
kind
of
help
us
navigate
the
system
and
I
saw
how
important
it
was
for
us
to
receive
that
help
in
order
to
you
know,
make
it
to
where
we've
made
it
now
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
those
opportunities
are
there
for
kids
that
are
coming
out,
not
necessarily
just
immigrants,
but
everybody.
You
know
also
serving
as
part
of
these
board.
J
You
know
head
of
school
searches,
so
it
gives
you
different
appreciation
for
what
has
to
come
together
in
order
to
have
a
successful
school
or
school
system,
as
in
this
public
school
system.
Here.
So
for
us,
it's
important
to
give
back
and
make
sure
that
we
give
our
I
would
say
that
opinion,
but
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
impact
the
community
where
we're
thinking
of
others
in
in
the
same
way
that
people
thought
of
us.
When
we
came
here.
J
Yeah-
and
this
is
something
that
I've
been
reflected
on
quite
a
bit-
you
know:
I
know
that
the
being
new
to
Chatham,
County
I,
think
that
and
it's
it's
difficult
for
me
to
say,
because
I
can
go
in
so
many
different
ways,
but
I
think
being
new
to
the
county,
not
having
that
historical
component.
While
that
is
important
also
gives
me
a
fresh
perspective,
because
I
will
look
at
issues
based
on
what's
presented,
not
on
anything.
That's
happened
to
me
in
the
past
that
sort
of
stuff.
J
It's
also
important
to
make
sure
that
the
board
continues
to
be
diverse
so
that
the
community,
that's
being
that
we're
serving,
is
represented
in
the
board,
given
that
I
am
Hispanic,
also
black
I'm
able
to
I
think
look
at
certain
things
with
those
lenses
and
seeing
it
maybe
there's
something.
That's
not
being
considered
from
that
perspective.
That
can
for
hand
enhance
the
community
might
be
something
that
might
serve
the
board
and,
given
my
experience
with
that,
I
think
might
be
helpful.
J
K
J
H
G
J
You
know
we
contribute
financially,
we
contribute
I
was
trying
to
there's
a
gap
that
we've
uncover
where
you
know,
kids
have
practice
at
5
30..
The
schools
are
picking
the
kids
out
right,
so
they're
roaming,
they're
doing
several
things
and
I
said
well.
Why
can't
we
start
some
type
of
tutoring
program
or
or
a
study
hall
where
the
kids
were
to
have
access
to
it,
there'll
be
in
a
protected
place
and
then
they
can
go
to
their
Sports.
J
So
that's
how
I've
been
involved
so
far,
I've
only
been
here
for
13
months
again
and
then
we've
supported
the
several
different.
You
know,
programs
and
and
Athletics
program
financially,
but
I
don't
know
about
the
pipe
I
served
in
every
single
community
that
they
had
to
offer
it
started
before
I
became
a
board.
Member
I
was
in
part
of
the
I,
don't
know
the
Halloween
committee,
then
I
was
part
of
the
welcoming
committee.
Then
I
went
out
and
helped
raise
money.
J
Financial
aid
was
a
big
issue,
so
we
we
would
support
them
that
way.
I
served
in
the
head
of
school
search.
I
was
a
co-president
of
the
diversity
committee
for
bij
committee.
I
was
in
the
financial
committee.
I
was
in
the
in
Alaska,
I
mean
I.
Think
I've
I've
went
through
all
the
different
committees
that
were
available,
but
I
was
there
for
when
I
got
13
12
years,
so
I
was
able
to
impact
the
community,
and
that's
why
I
got
involved.
J
I
said
you
know,
my
wife
and
I
know
that
it's
a
partnership
between
parents
and
the
school
in
order
to
have
successful
experience
and
in
school
for
the
kids,
and
we
took
that
to
heart
and
we
both
volunteered
same
thing
at
the
Y.
You
know
we
helped
establish
programs
for
especially
during
covet.
You
know
we
were
in
Florida,
we
were
private
school.
We
had
an
iPad
integrated
program,
but
I
know
back
home
kids
struggle
in
in
public
schools,
so
we
helped
set
up
systems
where
you
know
we
were
in
a
private
school.
J
We
we
knew,
we
had
resources,
parents
had
resources,
so
we
got
those
parents
to
donate
iPads
or
computer
to
Public
School
System
for
kids
that
didn't
have
any.
There
was
issues
where
kids
didn't
have
internet,
for
example,
but
they
were
required
to
attend
Zoom
calls
and
do
these
sort
of
things
and
we
were
able
to
go
and
reach
out
to
Comcast
and
other
providers
and
get
them
to
either
reduce
rates
or
free
internet
for
these
kids.
J
So
I've
done
a
lot
of
these
different
programs,
broader
Community
things,
we've
done
like
pop
the
track
events,
it's
something
that
my
kids
and
I
started.
Where
we
started
using.
You
know
parents
at
these
facilities
that
had
access
to
resources
to
just
bring
food
for
kids
that
a
lot
of
kids
didn't
have.
You
know
they
would
go
to
school
to
get
their
meals
in
Lawrence
and
in
North
Andover
those
surrounding
communities
that
wasn't
as
affluent
as
our
community
and
we
got
on
meals.
J
You
know
everything
you
learn
in
the
court
can
be
translated
into
every
area
of
your
of
your
life,
so
we
would
bring
in
professional
players
either
from
the
Celtics
or
from
D1
schools
or
just
other
players
that
were
slightly
ahead
high
school
players
and
they
were
able
to
have
a
conversation
with
these
younger
players.
It
was
mainly
made
up
of
you,
know,
peewees
or
any
one
eighth
grade
and
below,
and
we
would
you
have
those
conversations
around.
This
is
what
teamwork
is
about.
J
A
A
J
Oh,
that
can
be
a
long
conversation.
I
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
kids
play
sports.
We
have
family
in
Major,
League
Baseball.
You
know
we're
Dominican
small
island
you're
related
to
everybody,
let's
see,
but
we
like
we
like
to
do
things
like
go
to
Disney,
we
like
to
see
how
we
can
impact
each
other
and
make
each
other
better
by
doing
things
like
I,
don't
know
my
my
one
son,
one
of
my
kids
wants
to
put
together
and
he's
he
goes.
J
He
attends
C4
the
other
one
attends
baller,
but
they
want
to
put
together
like
a
converted
garage,
Chapel
Hill
into
a
basketball
gym.
Just
because
there's
no
access
for
kids
to
play.
It's
getting
cold,
so
I'm
challenging
I'm
in
a
way
we're
like
okay.
How
do
we?
How
are
we
going
to
raise
the
money
for
that?
I
can't
write
a
check
how
we're
going
to
raise
the
money,
how
we're
going
to
put
it
together,
who's
going
to
take
care
of
it
who's
going
to
clean
it?
Is
it
going
to
be
like
the
dog?
J
I
walk
the
dog,
but
it's
your
dog,
those
sort
of
things
so
we're.
So
we
we
like
to
challenge
them
in
those
ways,
but
in
general
man
we're
just
here
to
you,
know,
go
through
through
life,
you
know
more
relax,
I
guess
is
what
they
say
down
here
in
North,
Carolina,
it's
more
relaxed
and
then
up
north
and
I
enjoy
it.
So
far
it's
been
fantastic
so,
but
I
can
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
them.
H
B
A
L
So
I
moved
here
about
seven
weeks
ago
from
Chapel
Hill
I
did
middle
school,
high
school
undergrad
and
grad
on
Chapel
Hill.
We
moved
here.
My
wife
got
a
fourth
grade
teaching
position
at
Woods
Charter.
She
previously
taught
at
Estes
and
I've
learned
a
lot
from
her
perspective
on
that
and
she's
also
taught
at
Hillsborough
Elementary,
which
is
a
year-round
school,
and
my
perspective
has
grown
from
that
and
I
went
to
Hill
Learning
Center
in
the
90s
and
I
sit
in
the
report.
D
L
L
and
I've
heard
of
the
opening
here
and
I've
watched
some
well
I
watched
one
board,
maybe
in
the
previous
one
and
then
I
read
the
minutes.
The
other
ones,
and
it
sounded
very
interesting
to
me
and
I
thought
of
ways.
I
could
help
and
then
I
also
looked
up
some
of
the
stats,
because
I'm
working
data
analytics
and
finance
and
I
found
some
of
the
stats.
L
Interesting
and
I
knew
the
stats
for
Chapel
Hill
schools,
because
I
grew
up
there
and
I
matriculated
through
all
of
them
and
then
I
known
for
Woods,
because
my
wife
student
taught
there
when
she
was
in
college
back
in
2000
shortly
after
it
opened
and
we
love
the
neighborhood
of
cotton
brine
in
Chapel.
Hill
he's
the
principal
at
Woods
and
I've
learned
a
lot
about
why
that
school
is
so
successful
and
also
I
learned
a
lot
of
why
Chapel
Hill
carborough
City
schools
are
so
successful.
People
having
matriculated
and
I've.
D
L
I
want
to
be
a
school
member
for
more
engagement
with
teachers
and
also
students,
and
to
be
advocates
for
students
and
I
think
finding
a
way
to
connect
with
students
and
find
a
way
to
teach
them
that
suits
them.
The
best
is
a
major
point
in
teaching
and
having
gone
to
the
hill
Learning
Center,
which
is
a
school
that
teaches
us
for
students
at
a
time
with
learning
disabilities.
L
The
way
they
need
to
be
taught
is
really
fruitful,
because
I
went
there
in
middle
school
and
I
was
a
very
poor
student
at
elementary
school
spent
three
years
there
in
middle
school
and
I
really
flourished
in
high
school,
then
ended
up
going
to
Carolina
and
had
I
not
learn
how
to
learn.
The
way
I
need
to
be
taught.
I,
probably
would
not
have
been
successful
in
high
school
and
everything
I've
learned
being
engaged
with
a
Learning
Center
over
the
past
two
decades.
I've
gained
a
lot
of
knowledge
than
also
my
wife,
being
a
teacher.
L
I've
gained
a
lot
of
Knowledge
from
that
perspective
as
well.
For
example,
she's
in
fourth
grade
and
I
went
into
her
classroom
at
woods,
and
she
has
four
different
types
of
seeds.
She
has
bean
bag
seats.
She
has
these
stools
that,
like
Weeble,
then
she
has
sensory
seats
which
are
like
gel
pads
and
normal
seats,
and
that's
for
kids
that
have
high
sensory
needs
and
if
you're
sitting
on
a
seat,
that's
high
sensory.
You
can
do
your
work
better,
because
you're
going
to
pay
attention
to
it,
because
you're
also
getting
sensory
in
your
body.
L
I'm
very
good,
with
looking
at
numbers,
I
haven't
worked
in
data
analytics
and
I
have
a
master
in
accounting
from
Carolina
and
I,
currently
have
a
kindergartner
and
my
wife,
being
a
teacher.
I
get
a
lot
of
feedback
from
her,
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work
and
why
parent
engagement
is
so
important,
and
why
figuring
out
how
that
student
that
may
seem
like
a
problem
student
look
deeper
into
it.
L
I
would
say
well,
I
know
the
growth
is
coming,
I
I've
read
about
that,
but
I
would
say
a
student
engagement
and
I
looked
up
the
stats
and
I
think
figuring
out,
for
example,
if
someone's
not
doing
well,
because
they
have
lack
of
resources
at
home.
So
maybe
there's
no
pair
engagement
or,
if
they're
not
doing
well,
because
they're
not
being
taught
in
the
manner
they
need
to
be
taught,
and
maybe
they
need
a
new,
a
better
IEP
or
they
need
more
involvement
or
they
need
to
be
pulled
out.
L
And
there
are
some
issues
like
my
wife
was
a
remediation
teacher
which
was
a
result
of
covet
and
Hillsborough
schools,
and
she
was
that
for
Math
and
they
pulled
the
student
out
during
math
to
do
math
remediation
she's,
like
this
just
seems
backwards.
So
just
things
like
that
I
hear
I'm
like
I,
feel
like
you
should
probably
address
that
in
a
certain
way,
because
if
you
pull
them
out
to
remediate
math
during
math,
while
you're
catching
them
up,
they're
just
falling
behind
and
I,
didn't
understand
how
that
was
how
that
came
to
be.
G
L
So,
as
mentioned
at
Hill,
Learning
Center
I've
been
on
their
Board
of
Trustees
for
two
years
and
I'm
on
it
currently
I've
been
in
their
finance
committee
for
four
years,
and
it's
because
I
have
involvement
in
finance
and
then
I
was
in
their
financial
philanthropy
committee.
Prior
to
that,
when
I
was
at
UNC
every
month
through
rotor
act
me
and
usually
between
8
to
12.
L
Other
people
in
redirect
went
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
in
Durham
and
tutored
plus
and
I
I,
always
tutor
to
math,
because
math
is
my
strong
suit
and
then
I
have
various
family
members
in
the
schools
in
Chatham,
County
and
also
in
Chapel
Hill.
So
I
can
get
that
feedback
from
my
sisters
and
brothers
who
have
kids
as
well.
A
A
L
Now,
off
the
top
of
my
head,
okay,
I
think
yeah,
just
I
think
all
children
are
capable
of
learning.
So
it's
a
matter
of
figuring
out
how
they
need
to
be
taught.
You
can't
use
a
boilerplate
much
as
fairly
obvious,
but
I
know.
A
lot
of
the
interests
are
going
into
that
having
been
held,
Learning
Center.
D
A
I
Okay,
that
sounds
great.
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
it's
nice
to
meet
everybody
here
and
thank
you
for
your
service
did
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
Melissa's
Service
as
well.
I
know
that
she
had
to
step
down,
but
I
appreciate
the
time
that
she
did
spend
on
the
board
so
did
want
to
share
that,
especially
after
her
departing
speech.
I
know
that
this
sometimes
can
be
a
very
thankful
show.
I
I
I
have
two
children,
one
who
graduated
in
2021
from
North
Northwood
High
School
during
the
major
year
of
the
pandemic,
where
they
were.
She
was
out
of
school
for
most
of
the
year
and
then
I
also
have
a
son
who's
currently
attending
Seaport
high
school.
It's
a
sophomore,
so
my
children
have
been
involved
in
Chatham
County
Schools.
They
started
at
Mary,
Harrison
migrated
over
to
Pollard
middle
school
and
then,
of
course,
like
my
son
right
now
is
at
seaworth
as
a
sophomore.
I
So
so
we've
been
here
for
a
while
I've
had
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
school
I've
had
a
lot
of
interactions
with
the
administration.
You
know
they've
all
been
very
positive.
I
can't
really
say
enough
about
the
the
school
districts
here.
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job,
because
I
know
you
guys
most
of
you
I,
think
three
of
you
have
been
here
for
the
last
12
years,
serving
on
the
board
the
whole
time
that
my
children
have
been
in
school,
so
I've
been
able
to
benefit
from
your
leadership.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that
that
I'm
I'm,
also
really
passionate
about
is
making
sure
that
every
student
and
every
child
has
a
chance,
and
you
know
from
a
personal
standpoint.
I
can
tell
you
that,
for
me,
I
was
a
bit
of
a
troubled
teenager
and
I
got
into
a
lot
of
trouble.
But
I
had
a
couple
of
like
really
good
high
school
student
teachers.
That
really
believed
in
me.
They
believed
in
my
ability
to
write.
I
They
believed
in
my
ability
to
communicate
and
they
actually
gave
me
a
future
and
and
I
I
want
to
try
to
give
that
back
to
the
community
as
well.
So
my
sister
is
a
school
teacher
in
Florida.
Unfortunately,
I
didn't
get
a
lot
of
prep
work
for
this
interview,
because
she's
been
pretty
devastated
by
the
hurricane
that
recently
came
through.
Her
school
has
been
shut
down
and
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
reopen
until
next
week.
I
I
Think
like
some
of
you,
that
when
you
build
the
community
around
the
schools,
I
think
it
makes
the
community
Bond
so
much
stronger
and
I
can
tell
you
the
dichotomy
between
Chapel
Hill
schools,
which
we
had
a
brief
experience
with
when
we
moved
down
here
in
2009
versus
the
schools
here,
the
schools
here.
The
first
thing,
I
noticed
when
I
moved
here,
is
their
centered
around
the
community.
I
My
children
and
I
went
to
high
school
football
games
and
the
first
thing
that
I
noticed
was
that
we
had,
you
know
Farmers
from
the
community.
We
had
Parents,
we
had
teachers,
we
had
you
know,
plumbers,
we
had
electricians,
we
had
everybody
in
the
community
that
came
out
to
watch
those
kids
play
football
and
I
know
things
have
changed
a
lot
since
the
pandemic
happened,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
love
about.
I
I
You
know
making
sure
that
our
students
are
able
to
go
directly
to
college
and
I
think
that
you
need
to
make
sure
that,
there's
that
we
provide
opportunities
and
Pathways
for
all
students-
and
you
guys
probably
saw
that
in
the
letter
that
I
that
I
submitted
to
you
there,
your
community
is
not
just
made
up
of
a
four-year
degree.
Professionals,
communities
are
made
up
of
plumbers
and
electricians,
and
most
of
these,
these
jobs
are
jobs
that
students
can
do
directly
out
of
high
high
school
and
I.
Believe
too,
with
the
new
infrastructure.
I
That's
coming
in
one
of
the
things
that
I
can
do
as
an
active
member
within
the
business
Community
is.
We
can
work
with
these
businesses
like
Piper
to
actually
start
investing
in
our
community
colleges
and
seeing
if
there
are
opportunities
for
them
to
provide
transportation
from
the
community
colleges
to
the
high
school.
B
A
I
I
I
also
believe
that
we
need
to
have
a
very
diverse
Workforce
within
the
school
district
and
the
reason
why
I
say
that
is
because
Chatham
county
is
made
up
of
all
different
types
of
people
and,
as
a
past
student
I
know
that
those
people
that
you
see
are
going
to
be
Your,
Role
Models.
You
know
for
the
first
several
years
of
your
life
before
you,
you
know,
go
out
into
the
world
and
you
Journey
out
onto
your
own.
I
You
know,
adventure
and
so
I'm,
very
passionate
about
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
would
like
to
be
part
of
the
school
board
is
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
voice
is
heard
and
that
we
give
equal
attention
to
the
janitors
that
work
in
our
school.
Everybody
who
works.
It
takes
a
great
group
to
you,
know,
to
be
part
of
a
community
and,
as
you
guys
can
see
from
my
resume
too,
I
really
believe
in
servitude,
leadership
and
not
a
lot
of
people
know
what
servitude
leadership
is.
I
But
it's
when
you
know
you
as
a
manager
and
the
people
that
you
manage
you
do
what
you
can
to
make
them
successful.
You
know
whether
it
means
that
you
take
on
a
lot
of
their
menial
tasks
or
you
help
them
or
you
know
you
pick
things
up
or
you
know
you
work
with
that
with
the
people
within
your
school
district,
you
know
to
make
them
better
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
the
students
too
I.
I
I
All
right,
so
obviously,
with
the
influx
of
jobs
that
we
have
here,
we
can
probably
anticipate
I,
would
say
between
10
to
20
new
new
students
that'll
be
entering
the
district
once
all
these
companies
are
up
and
running
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years.
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
new
builds
I
mean,
as
you
guys
can
see
on
my
resume.
I
I've
done
a
lot
of
construction
and
worked
on
projects
or
large
pharmaceutical
companies
where
we
had
to
expand
the
site,
and
so
I'm
I've
got
a
very
acute
awareness
of
the
challenges
that
come
with
that
and
what
people
don't
understand
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
infrastructure
challenges
and
I'm
sure
Mr,
Mr,
blice,
I,
think
he's
in
here.
Probably
you
probably
understand
that
as
well
right,
because
it's
not
just
the
fact
that
you've
got
to
build
a
building,
but
there's
also
the
services
that
are
within
the
building.
I
You
know
you've
got
your
cafeteria
Services
you've
got
your
bus
drivers.
You've
got
your
transportation,
so
there's
a
lot
of
logistical
issues
that
have
to
be
dealt
with
and
I've
dealt
with
a
lot
of
those
in.
In
my
current
role
in
my
previous
roles
within
my
with
my
employers
and
I,
think
that
I
could
definitely
help
with
that.
I
I
think
that
one
of
the
items
that
I
could
bring
is
from
an
operational
perspective,
I've
actually
done
a
lot
of
budget
oversight
and
I
can
look
at
opportunities
for
us
to
save,
because
if
we
can
save
on
some
of
these
contracts,
then
we
can
basically
take
that
money
and
reallocate
it
to
the
places
where
it's
needed.
The
most
I
mean.
Obviously,
we've
got.
You
know
challenges
in
Chatham
County.
I
I
It's
the
shortage
throughout
and
I
think
that
the
biggest
challenge
that
that
Chatham
County
schools
has
right
now
is
that
with
those
existing
challenges,
there's
also
going
to
be
a
lot
of
growth
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
new
students
that
move
into
town
and
I
think
what
we
have
to
do
is
in
Chatham
county
is.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
our
our
pay
is
is
competitive
right
with
Wake
County,
because
people
can
live
in
Chatham
County
and
they
can
go
be
teachers
in
Wake
County.
G
I
In
Chatham
County
I've
I've
volunteered,
for
you
know
a
lot
of
the
things
that
parents
volunteer
for
obviously
field
trips.
I
was
a
little
bit
busier
when
my
children
were
younger
and
I've
I've
been
afforded
a
little
bit
more
opportunity
to
do
a
little
bit
more
volunteer
work
within
the
community.
I've
done
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
at
the
Chatham
thrift
shop
to
help
out
with
the
PTA
and
raising
money.
I
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
concession
stands
because
I
have
two
children
that
were
very
athletic
and
so
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
my
involvement
has
been
is
back
basically
within
the
Athletics
of
the
community
and
I.
Think
Athletics
are
very
important
for
children
too
I
know
people
say
we
should
really
be
emphasizing
and
I
saw
that
in
the
last
school
board
meeting.
Why
aren't
we
spending
more
time?
I
You
know
rewarding
students
that
that
do,
academics
and
I
think
we
do
do
that,
but
I
also
think
that
that
Sports
actually
provides
a
very
healthy
outlet
for
children,
especially
when
you
have
very
active
children.
I
happen
to
have
a
very
active
one,
which
is
why
I've
talked
to
the
administration
quite
a
bit
for
my
son,
but
but
yeah
so
I
do
I
do
believe
that
that's
very
important.
H
A
I
Yes,
I
believe
that
I
will
I'm
a
super
Avid
Reader
I.
Do
a
lot
of
research
I
make
sure
that
I'm
very
educated
before
I
make
any
decisions.
I
understand
that
you
know
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
the
past
experience
of
an
educator
but
I'm.
A
very
quick
learner
and
I
tend
to
really
dive
into
subjects
that
I
may
not
be
quite
as
familiar
with
so
I
do
believe
that
I
can
fill
these
responsibilities
and
we've.
A
K
K
For
I
know
a
couple:
people
I
recognized
a
couple
people
in
the
room,
but
for
those
who
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
Dustin
Miller
and
I
got
to
tell
you
I'm
a
lot
less
nervous.
Having
spent
the
last
20
minutes
in
that
room
because
we
were
having
a
blast
and
every
candidate
in
this
room
is
worthy
of
the
position,
so
kind
of
shakes
the
nerves
off,
because
I'm
very
happy
with
the
candidate
pool
in
that
room
to
dive
into
my
application.
I'm
here
well.
K
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
make
a
connection
to
what
I'm
wearing
tonight.
My
grandmother
would
tell
me
that
if
I
didn't
know
what
the
dress
code
was
to
dress
like
I
was
going
to
church,
and
so
I
did
that
tonight
and
I'm
I'm
sort
of
doing
the
same
thing
with
why
I'm
here
I'm
humbly,
going
to
say
that
I
do
not
know
the
full
scale
of
the
role
or
the
position.
K
But
I
am
coming
here
with
my
best
foot
forward,
taking
a
look
at
your
core
values
and
the
one
Chatham
document
and
I
think
that
was
stuck
out
of
me
between
your
core
values
and
your
mission
statement
and
Chatham.
One
was
I
saw
the
word
all
several
times
mentioned
and,
and
so
I
think
that
that
was
intentional.
K
Just
yesterday
we
were
having
some
work
done
on
the
house
and
my
daughter
facilitated
where
to
put
the
windows
to
someone
who
is
there
working
with
us,
and
that
was
a
sort
of
an
eye-opening
moment
where
there
was
a
cultural
divide
that
was
crossed.
There
was
also
a
language
barrier
that
was
crossed
and
I
was
I
was
impressed
with
my
daughter,
facilitated
through
Chatham
Schools
I
am
a
product
of
public
education.
K
I've
got
to
love
hate
with
public
education,
because
I
was
that
kid
that
was
inspired
very
early
on
by
a
lot
of
my
teachers
and
a
lot
of
that
message
is
dream
and
Inspire
and
I
grew
up
in
Alamance
County
and
that
dream,
and
that
inspiration
has
took
me
out
of
Alamance.
County
and
I've
been
able
to
be
fortunate
enough
to
travel
and
have
a
lot
of
varied
experiences.
K
Because
if
we
don't
close
that
Loop,
then
we
are
launching
children
into
into
orbit
and
we
might
not
see
them
come
back
into
our
space
and
that
dividend
might
not
ever
be
realized
and
I.
Think
that's
important
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
complexity
there
with
affordable
housing
and
and
development,
and
things
were
set
in
motion
a
long
time
ago
by
various
leadership
and
we're
at
a
we're
at
a
moment.
Right
now
we
have
to
decide
for
Chatham.
Where
do
we
want
to
go?
K
I
want
to
reiterate
again
that
while
I've
looked
at
these
documents
and
glanced
over
them,
I
can
tell
that
a
lot
of
thought
has
been
put
into
y'all's
long-range
plan
and
the
goals
that
you've
set.
Your
mission
statement,
your
core
values
and
if
I
were
to
be
elected
I,
would
spend
a
a
very
significant
portion
of
my
time.
K
Listening
to
you
and
trying
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
I
don't
come
here
with
a
with
a
directive
or
a
tire
to
kick
and,
as
we've
all
had
to
do
at
postcovid,
all
of
us
have
had
to
engage
in
restorative
communication
with
family
members
and
friends,
and
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
that
we
are
post
coveted,
and
this
has
been
a
very
difficult
time
and
I.
Don't
take
it
lightly
that
at
almost
9
000
children
that
averages
out
to
about
2
000
children
per
board.
K
K
A
lot
of
things
are
coming
at
you
at
once,
and
the
birth
of
the
internet
is
coming
into
full
bloom.
The
feeling
of
lack
of
autonomy
and
control
as
a
parent
and
I
would
just
ask
that
this
board
consider
that
when
they
see
the
frustrations
of
the
parents
in
the
room,
it's
not
necessarily
directed
at
one
specific
thing.
K
It's
just
a
lot
of
things
coming
at
us
at
once,
and
it's
hard
to
articulate
and
everybody
who
sometimes
wants
a
a
wall
or
or
a
brick
to
smash
or
yell
at
and
so
I
just
asked
I
think
that
both
both
parties
both
sides,
the
the
parent
organizations,
the
school
board.
We
are
here
undoubtedly
because
we
share
the
same
values
of
caring
for
children
and
I.
Think
if
we
could,
we
could
figure
that
out.
I
think
that
we
would
make
a
lot
of
Headway.
So
that's
what
I
got.
K
Yeah,
so
to
tag
back
on,
I
think
that
I'm
also
a
product
of
Community,
College
I,
went
to
Alamance
Community
College
for
two
years,
transferred
in
I'm,
proud
to
say:
I've,
never
taken
an
SAT
in
my
entire
life
I've
utilized
the
crack
created
through
the
North
Carolina
education
system
and
I
came
out
the
other
side.
A
proud
graduate
of
UNC
Greensboro
and
I.
Think
that
again,
that
that
to
partner
with
the
community
colleges
in
in
ways
you're
already
doing,
but
with
private
sector
as
well.
K
K
K
That
sounds
cheesy,
but
I
am
a
in
my
in
my
roles
with
various
companies
that
I
work
with
both
out
of
state
and
in-state
I.
Consider
myself
to
be
a
problem
solver
when
it
comes
to
interpersonal
blockades,
holding
up
progress
most
of
the
time
when
a
deal
goes:
South,
Via,
Real,
Estate
development
or
a
product
sourcing
issue
or
a
product.
That's
not
Landing!
In
a
right
distribution
channel.
F
F
F
D
M
F
K
I
think
that
some
of
you
who
are
sitting
on
this
board,
you
know
me
in
various
capacities,
I,
think
that
this
County
is
a
blue
dot
on
a
red
map
and
I
think
that,
prior
to
covid,
I
think
that
parent
sentiment
for
political
discourse
was
really
sort
of
left
out
of
the
school
board
decision.
I
call
it
the
C-SPAN
effect
we
it
was.
It
was
locked
away
in
the
C-SPAN
Genie
and
after
covid,
when
parents
were
forced
to
become
teachers
overnight
and
quit
their
jobs
and
and
have
to
contend
with
policy.
K
It
I
think
put
a
magnifying
glass
on
things
and
and
it
it
some
some
things
you
have
to
find
some
things
not
justified,
and
so
I
think
that
I
think
what
the
parents
want
is.
Some
assurance
I've
talked
with
many
parents
on
both
sides
of
the
political
spectrum
that
they
want
assurances
that
the
school
board
leadership
are
acting
apolitically
and
I
would
say
that
the
challenge
to
parents
in
those
positions
when
they
find
themselves
asking
that
question.
They
also
should
be
acting
apolitically
as
well
when
they
represent
themselves.
G
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
applying
and
it's
this
exciting
that
person,
but
interesting
schools
and
willing
to
then
eat
their
service.
So
could
you
briefly
describe
your
involvement
with
public
schools
in
Chatham,
County
or
elsewhere,
and
what
work
you
have
already
done
that
has
prepared
to
work
position
in
the
school
board
so.
K
I'll
start
with
my
most
obvious
experience
was
for
a
brief
time.
I
was
a
lateral
entry
teacher
at
City
medicine
Academy
in
Durham,
and
there
I
was.
It
was
an
interesting
opportunity
because
I
got
to
it
wasn't
called
Equity
training,
then
it
was
called
Silent
rules
and
I
was
I
was
what
what
really
impacted
me
was
that
it
was
facilitated
internally.
It
was
facilitated
by
the
tech
librarian
who
she
had
had
she's
been
a
staple
in
the
school
for
many
many
years,
so
there
was
buy-in
because
she
was
speaking
from
experience.
K
She
was
leading,
she
was
sort
of
walking
walking
in
her
her
role,
so
to
speak
so,
and
that
was
formative.
I
sort
of
did
that,
because
my
wife,
she
was
a
teacher
and
she
taught
in
Carrboro
schools
and
and
I
I
sort
of
public
education
is
something
that
because
we
all
go
through
it,
we
think
we're
experts
in
it
and
I'd
have
some
interim
time
between
projects
and
I
thought.
K
You
know
I'm
going
to
lateral
entry
teach,
so
I
can
at
least
speak
to
that
and
that's
the
most
pertinent
experience
in
terms
of
philanthropic
I've
worked
a
lot
with
Jamie
DC
CEF
and
help
facilitate
some
charitable,
giving
and
Foundation
marketing
for
other
foundations
in
the
community
on
a
policy
level.
I
I,
probably
one
of
my
most
proudest
sort
of
attributes,
is
I
feel
like
I
know.
K
The
county
Dynamics
economically
I
understand
that
90
over
90
of
the
teachers
don't
teach
in
Chatham
I
understand
that
our
tax
base
sort
of
restricts
and
limits.
What
the
school
can
really
achieve.
I
understand
that
you
know
when
I
want
to
a
person
from
from
a
person,
says
that
every
school
should
be
armed
with
two
officers.
They're
writing
a
blank
check,
not
realizing
our
County
budget
and
not
understanding
our
County
Dynamics.
So
I
understand
the
the
700
square
mile
dilemma
that
is
Chatham
County
I
get
it.
A
D
A
M
M
I
grew
up
in
Madison
Indiana,
a
little
town
on
the
Indiana
Kentucky
border
I
attended
the
public
schools
there
in
seventh
grade
I
met
this
cute
guy,
who
was
in
a
popular
and
ended
up
marrying
him.
Some
years
later,
his
dad
was
the
principal
for
the
junior
high
school
and
the
assistant
superintendent
of
schools.
M
M
I
was
General
Counsel
for
the
UNC
Chapel
Hill
for
12
years
from
2003
to
2015.
those
were
wonderfully
challenging
years
and
a
lot
of
fun
most
days
and
my
role
as
a
university
attorney.
I
I
sat
at
the
table
shoulder
to
shoulder
every
day
with
student
affairs,
Representatives,
Human,
Resources
experts,
campus,
believe,
budget
officer
facilities,
office
or
public
relations,
Personnel
accreditation,
team
I
mean
we
were
together
at
the
cabinet,
and
we
talked
about
the
issues
that
were
important
to
the
university,
all
of
which
could
be
summed
up
in
a
big
picture
way.
M
As
you
know,
how
do
we
provide
our
students
with
the
best
education
possible
and
how
do
we
do
it
in
an
environment
that
supports
their
learning
and
their
personal
development?
You
know.
So
what
that
meant
mostly,
is
that
we
talked
about
policy.
What
should
our
policies
be?
How
should
they
be
implemented?
How
should
they
be
communicated,
which
sometimes
is
the
most
challenging
piece?
M
In
addition
to
that,
I
served
as
the
advisor
the
legal
advisor
to
the
Board
of
Trustees,
so
that
meant,
I
was
at
every
board.
Meeting
I,
presented
at
every
board
meeting
and
I
was
in
the
room
both
for
Open
Session
and
closed
session.
Where
I
had
the
opportunity
to
hear
about
the
questions,
they
asked
the
deliberations
that
they
undertook
and
how
they
reached
the
decisions
that
they
reached,
that
they
thought
were
in
the
best
interest
on
the
University
foreign.
M
I
am
interested
in
this
position
because
I
think
that
my
experience
and
my
expertise
would
allow
me
to
Be
an
Effective
board
member
I'm
interested
because
I
care
about
the
education
of
the
students
in
Chatham,
County
and
I'm
interested
because
I
think
this
position
really
matters
and
can
really
make
a
difference
and
I
would
like
to
be
part
of
that.
So
I.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
you
this
evening
and
I'm
happy
to
take
good
questions.
Okay,
I
think.
A
M
M
School
Safety
and
Security,
of
course,
is
a
huge
issue
when
I
was
at
UNC
Chapel
Hill
I
sat
on
the
emergency
warning
committee.
I
was
actually
the
chair
of
that
committee,
which
was
responsible
for
communicating
to
the
entire
Campus
Community
anytime.
There
was
a
threat
as
part
of
that
I
sat
in
a
lot
of
tabletop
Thrills,
active
shooter,
drills,
environmental
hazard,
drills.
M
You
know
and
and
came
to
appreciate,
just
how
complicated
those
issues
can
be
in
terms
of
the
anticipation
and
the
planning
and
the
training
and
the
coordination
of
all
kinds
of
agencies,
clearly
being
able
to
retain
and
hire
high
quality
and
diverse
faculty
and
staff.
Is
an
important
issue
always
focused
on
communication?
How
do
you
communicate
with
the
various
constituencies?
And
it's
a
two-way
thing:
you
know:
how
do
you
listen
to
them?
Incorporate
their
comments
respond
to
them.
M
M
F
D
M
Any
given
week,
one
thing
is
at
the
top
of
the
list
and
the
next
week,
or
maybe
the
next
day
or
maybe
the
next
hour.
Another
thing
comes
to
the
top
of
the
list,
depending
on
the
circumstances
so
number
one
on
my
list
would
be
making
sure
our
students
are
safe
and
secure
in
their
school
environment,
but
I
think
all
of
the
other
things
we've
talked
about
are
also
as
important
and
on
any
given
day.
Maybe
at
the
top
of
it.
G
Thank
you
for
applying
and
for
their
interests
in
serving
in
Chatham
County.
Would
you
briefly
describe
your
involvement
with
public
schools
in
Chatham,
County
or
elsewhere,
and
what
work
have
you
already
done?
That
has
prepared
you
for
a
position
on
the
school
board?
I
think
you've
already
answered
a
lot
of
this,
but
in
a
specific
context
of
public
schools,
K-12.
M
So
K-12
the
work
that
I've
done
most
recently
was
in
Louisville
Kentucky,
where
I
lived
until
2020
when
we
moved
back
here
and
I
was
a
tutor
in
a
program
that
focused
on
students
in
the
second
and
third
grades,
and
the
goal
was
to
make
sure
that
by
the
end
of
the
third
grade,
they
were
reading
at
grade
level.
So
these
were
students
that
were
selected
by
their
teachers
and
we
met
with
them
in
their
school
building
and
had
a
set
curriculum.
But
for.
A
M
It
was
just
tremendously
meaningful
work.
You
got
to
develop
relationships
with
these,
these
young
people
and
understand
a
little
bit
about
their
lives
and
understand
the
challenges
that
they
faced
and
one
of
the
little
girls
that
I
tutored
has
dealt
with
things
at
the
age
of
eight.
That
I
have
never
dealt
with
in
my
life,
and
yet
she
goes
to
school
every
day
and
is
a
good
student
and
is
a
curious
mind
and
is
able
to
focus
on
her
work
and
I.
Think
for
perseverance
and
her
courage.
M
M
I
also
think
that
it's
not
necessarily
an
essential
requirement
for
being
a
board
member
I've,
looked
at
the
bios
of
each
of
you
and
have
deep
experience
with
the
school
system
in
many
different
facets
and
I
know
that
it's
it's
possible
to
Be
an
Effective
board
member
as
part
of
a
team
without
bringing
that
particular
personal
experience
to
the
table.
You
know
so.
M
We've
talked
about
what
I,
what
I
have
to
offer
in
terms
of
experience,
education
I
would
say
that
what
I
think
you
really
want
in
a
board
member
is
somebody
who's
devoted
to
the
mission
who
is
committed
to
doing
the
work
to
understand
the
issues.
Get
the
homework
be
informed.
Who
can
ask
the
right
questions
who
can
absorb
the
information?
Can
work
collaboratively
with
their
other
board
members
and
develop
cohesive
relationships
both
within
the
board,
and
help
to
maintain
those
between
the
board
and
administration?
M
A
M
So
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
I
mean
the
the
flip
side.
Maybe
of
Ms
Wilson's
question
is
that
I'm
retired
now
so
my
obligations
at
the
moment
are
Community
obligations.
I
work
for
a
couple
of
food
banks,
I
volunteer
in
other
capacities,
but
I
have
lots
of
time.
I
am
a
hard
worker
and
I
mean
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
if
I
would
end
up
being
your
appointee
to
the
board.
A
M
A
N
So
number
one
thanks
for
having
me
tonight,
I
appreciate
it.
My
name
is
Tim
Winters
I
am
a
I
am
45
years
old
I'm,
a
17-year
resident
of
Chatham
County,
my
wife,
Patty
and
I
are
raising
two
kids
who
are
currently
enrolled
in
Chatham
Schools.
We
have
a
son
at
Margaret
Pollard
and
a
daughter
at
Chatham,
Grove
and
I
work
at
a
local
construction,
Manufacturing
Company
down
at
Sanford
and
they're.
Also
for
17
years,
we've
lived
in
in
the
man's
Chapel
area.
A
N
Yeah,
so
education
has
been
very
transformal
transformative
to
my
life
and
I.
I
grew
up
in
a
family
of
very
modest
means
and
was
able
to
to
leverage
my
education
to
provide
a
great
life
for
my
family
and
I
feel
like
there's
an
opportunity
in
this
County
to
do
to
do
the
same
for
a
lot
of
kids
who
are
in
similar
situations
and
and
help
them.
You
know,
build
great
lives
for
themselves
so
that
they
can
transform
their
lives
as
well.
N
So
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
disparity
depending
on
what
school
you're
looking
at
in
terms
of
performance.
A
lot
of
great
growth
numbers
out
there,
but
proficiency,
sometimes
depending
on
the
school
that
you're
looking
at,
can
lag
behind
other
schools
and
so
I'd
like
to
help
be
part
of
the
solution
to
help
those
kids
in
those
schools
build
a
great
life
for
themselves
and
a
great
future.
Thank
you.
N
Well,
I
think
one
perspective
that
I
would
bring
to
the
board.
That
would
be
good
would
be
that
of
a
parent
someone,
who's
who's,
got
kids
actively
in
the
school
district
and
and
has
a
lot
of
runway
in
front
of
them
still
for
many
years.
You
know
before
they
graduate
so
I
think
number
one.
That's
an
extremely
important
quality
I
think
for
whoever
you
choose
is
to
to
find
somebody.
Who's
who's
got
that
connection
to
the
school
district.
N
I
think
probably
the
most
important
issue
that
that
the
school
board
can
and
should
be,
focusing
on
is
probably
reading
proficiency
by
the
third
grade.
The
numbers
in
the
data
that
I
see
that
seem
to
indicate
that
you
know.
Reading
proficiency
at
third
grade
is
very
determinative
in
terms
of
what
that
student's
future
performance
will
be
and
I
think
anything
that
the
school
board
can
do
to
help
improve
that,
for
as
many
students
as
possible
is
going
to
only
pay
benefits
for
those
kids
in
the
future.
G
N
N
You
know
what
I
see
happening
with
that
organization
around
the
books
on
break
initiative
right
to
give
kids
the
opportunity
to
pick
out.
You
know
different
books,
you
know
maybe
up
to
five
or
six,
depending
on
the
grade
level,
to
take
those
home
for
the
summer
to
kind
of
help
stem
the
summer
reading
slide
that
some
of
the
kids
go
through
when
they're
out
of
school.
For
three
months,
so
you
know
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
10
years
of
experience
supporting
Chatham
Schools
right.
D
B
A
N
To
know
I
I,
don't
think
so.
I
just
number
one
I
appreciate
the
the
board's
willingness
to
to
interview
us
tonight.
I
think
the
other,
maybe
last
statement
I'd
make.
Is
you
know
in
terms
of
your
criteria?
What
I
would
suggest
is
find
a
parent
find
a
rational
actor
to
deal
with,
and
you
know
it
would
be
very.
It
would
be
wonderful
if
that
person
has
some
sort
of
tie
or
experienced
education
and
I
think
that
would
be.
A
A
D
M
G
I
feel
like
we're
very
lucky
that
we've
had
so
many
great
candidates
come
forward
that
have
different
skill
sets
and
I'm
impressed
by
their
enthusiasm
for
service
to
the
schools
and
to
community
impressed
by
a
number
of
their
skill.
Sets
and
I
mean
I.
Think
we're
really
fortunate
to
have
such
a
good
rule
of
applicants.
B
E
F
F
Of
all
eight
candidates,
she
is
the
only
one
that
can
y'all
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
she's,
the
only
one
that
connected
the
diversity
of
the
of
Chatham,
County,
Schools
and
the
uniqueness
of
being
a
bus
driver
or
a
custodian
to
a
teacher
to
this
to
that
and
connecting
all
the
pieces
that
were
that
we're
striving
for
to
have-
and
you
know,
if
you're
looking
for
a
bucket
list.
You
know
she
is
a
parent
she's,
been
here
for
12
years,
but.
E
And
I
and
I
agree
with
that.
I
mean
I
had
my
little
list
and
she
is
on
my
list
but
and
and
I
and
I
like
that
she
was,
you
know,
seemed
very
down
to
earth
and
she
did
make
all
of
those
connections
that
are
important
to
me.
She
did
make
those
connections
but
I'm
not
willing
to
like
just
go
right
into
numbing
somebody
until
we,
you
know,
had
a
full
discussion
about
it.
G
G
I
I
agree
with
what
you
said:
Mr
Hamm,
that
those
are
the
things
that
some
of
the
things
that
stood
out
about
her
as
a
candidate
I,
really
liked
that
she
was
thinking
about
not
just
college-bound
students,
but
students
that
might
want
to
go
immediately
into
on
the
workforce
and
have
skill
sets
that,
could
you
know,
launch
them
and
I
appreciate
it
too?
What
she
said
about
different
employees
in
the
school
system.
E
F
The
one
thing
and
one
Kenneth
made
the
comment
that
they
ain't
very
honest
and
I,
really
don't
understand
everything
that
the
board
does
well.
I
worked
and
Gary
and
I
worked
in
the
school
system,
our
whole
career
and
working
in
the
school
system
and
then
on
the
board
were
two
different
things.
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it
was
a
learning
experience
from
day
one
but
I
felt.
There
was
a
connection
of
understanding
that,
even
though
you
had
to
live
in
District
One
is
to
apply
that
you're,
representing
the
entire
County.
E
F
F
A
E
G
Now
and
I
I
share
some
of
your
viewpoints
about
Ms
Strom
as
well.
She
brings
expertise.
That
is
incredible
that
that
expertise
would
be
presented
in
front
of
us
as
a
potential
board.
Member
I
have
I,
have
three
that
I
have
honed
into,
but
it's
a
semi-fluid
thing
so
I'm
open
to
discussion
about
all
these.
G
The
types
of
things
we
consider
and
so
I
was
just
impressed
that
we
might
have
the
opportunity
to
have
someone
with
that
kind
of
skill
set
in
front
of
us,
and
it
almost
seems
it
would
be
almost
crazy
to
miss
out
on
that.
At
the
same
time,
I
realized
that
it's
been.
You
know
like
that
area
of
the
county
is
very
close
to
Chapel
Hill
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
G
H
E
D
G
F
I
felt
she
she
Rose
above
the
others,
and
and
not
that
in
my
viewpoint,
second,
third
or
fourth
wouldn't
wouldn't
fulfill
the
job.
I'm,
not
saying
that,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
that
I
felt
and
I
just
felt
that
there
was
yeah
I,
don't
know
this.
This
is
a
weird
process.
It
is.
It
is
very
weird
process.
It
is,
and
I
was
sitting
here
thinking.
F
D
F
Saying
I'm
not
saying
that's
a
requirement:
I'm
just
I'm
surprised
that
none
of
them
were
and
if
we
went
to
one
of
our
districts
it
might
be
different.
That
way,
I
mean
I,
understand
that,
but
that's
just
that.
That's
just
a
tidbit
and
an
insta,
an
interesting
fact
that
and
we've
had
candidates
here
for
since
for
17
years
and
13
months,
I
mean
that's
and
maybe
some
more
than
17
years.
That's
what
I
wrote
down,
but.
B
D
G
A
Was
going
to
speak
an
individual
person
anyway,
that's
one!
That's
what
I
was
asking
particularly
I
I,
really
liked
Julie
bridenstein,
two
kids
in
her
system.
Of
course,
Miss
Hitler
did
also
had
a
child
in
her
system,
one
that
was
a
graduate
I
like
the
idea
that
she
was
a
guardian
ad
lied
him,
the
well-being
of
children.
A
She
mentioned
two
or
three
things
in
particular,
meticulous
and
being
prepared
and
worked
hard
and
I.
Think
those
are
a
couple
things
that
I
think
a
good
board
member
does
she
mentioned
her
clients
and,
of
course,
with
the
guardian.
Adel
item
also
had
seen
the
education
deficiencies
when
they
fell
behind
ended
up.
You
know
not
only
that,
but
childhood
events
too,
that
caused
that
and
the
whole
child
as
far
as
not
only
in
the
classroom
just
needed
somebody
there
to
help
so
I
I
liked
her
a
lot.
He.
E
G
D
G
That
many
of
our
family's
face
and
the
kids
face,
and
teachers
too
for
and
so
that
Insight
of
course
I
you
know,
have
a
similar
thematic
background
with
her.
So
of
course,
I've
I'm,
aware
of
you,
know
that
that
shared
interest
but
but
she
brings
the
legal
perspective-
is
something
that
I
think
is
a
skill
set
that
of
course,
Adam
has
yeah,
but
but
I
mean
it
would
be
a
unique
skill
set
to
the
board.
So,
if
I
think
about
balancing
our
skill
sets.
E
E
F
E
G
G
M
G
In
the
United
States
want
to
lump
all
of
Latin
America
together
to
say
that
you
know,
but
the
Spanish
Caribbean
is
very
different
from
Mexico
and
Central.
America
is
very
different
from
South
America
and
sometimes
those
things
you
know
they're
all
lumped
together
in
the
you
know
the
Latino
community
and
I
realize
that's.
G
A
grand
sweeping
generalization
of
just
Mexico
itself
is
a
huge
country
and
very
diverse,
but
his
experience,
as
you
know,
as
a
you
know,
as
a
immigrant
here,
first
generation
kids
is
something
to
note,
as
well
as
his
enthusiasm
for
the
school
system
and
all
of
that.
So
he
was
on
my
list
as
well.
But
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
three
people
on
their
list
with
this.
E
E
H
E
F
A
I
know:
Ms
lavik
Melissa
brought
a
lot
to
our
board
business
sense.
She
was
able
to
say
things
that
were
that
got
right
to
the
point
redirect
and
I
see.
You
know
a
lot
of
that
in
Ms,
breidenstein
I
think
one
of
the
comments
she
made
at
the
end
of
her
question
time
was:
she
wants
to
listen
to
our
people
in
our
schools
and
that's
you
know:
that's
not
only
our
staff,
that's
our
students,
that's
our
parents!
That's
our
community
members,
I!
Think!