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Chattanooga City Council Agenda Session — 02-14-23
A
B
A
A
D
An
ordinance
amending
Chattanooga
city
code,
part
2,
chapter
11
to
add
new
definitions
for
absentee
and
Homestay
rentals,
create
an
appeals
process
by
an
administrative
hearing
officer
for
absentee
applicant
disputes
and
by
the
short-term
vacation
rental
board
for
Homestay
applicants,
creating
the
short-term
vacation
rental
board
and
establishing
density
and
distance
restrictions
for
short-term
rental
units
within
the
short-term
vacation
rental
District.
In
new
sections.
11-510-11-526.
A
B
B
C
E
A
B
It
is
it's
in
reference
to
the
ordinance
itself.
I'm
still
not
feeling
like
the
constituency
has
a
voice
in
here.
I'm
still
not
feeling
like
District
a
is
the
buffer.
The
buffer
is
another
concern
for
me,
and
also
the
fact
that
District
8
has
a
lot
of
them.
That's
illegal,
and
that
is
legal
and
the
footage
is
not
enough
for
number
one
and
the
fact
that
the
constituents
are
not
having
a
say
here.
I
just
don't
see
what
they
have
any
say
in
this
here.
B
E
E
Now.
All
we
can
do
is
is
sort
of
guarantee
them
a
hearing
that
they
would
be
heard,
but
they're
there
obviously
would
be
no
guarantee
on
the
outcome.
So
I
feel
like
I
feel,
like
the
community
does
have
a
voice
in
this,
at
least
in
the
single
family
dwellings,
not
so
much
in
the
multi-family
dwellings,
but
in
the
single
family
dwellings.
Where
we've
heard
most
of
the
complaints
come
from,
they
do
have
an
opportunity
to
have
their
voice
heard.
E
As
far
as
the
the
buffer,
you
know
I
guess
maybe
we
could
agree
to
disagree
on
that
I
mean
I.
You
know
we
looked
at
a
300
foot
buffer.
We
also
looked
at
a
500
foot
buffer
I.
Think
the
500
foot
buffer
seems
to
be
consistent
with
what
most
cities
that
implement
this
type
of
buffer
zone
go
with.
So
you
know
we
may
we
may
disagree
there
with
as
far
as
the
distance
and-
and
you
know
in
in
an
instance
where
you
don't
agree
with
it,
I
mean
then.
E
B
We
are
stuck
with
an
overlay
that
we
have
all
of
them,
and
then
it
was
brought
up
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
that
short-term
vacation
rentals
are
businesses
and
businesses
should
not
even
be
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood.
We
have
not
even
discussed
the
com,
the
commercial
corridors
where
that
short-term
vacation
rentals
could
be
placed
and
those
there
are
some
places
that
they
have
a
thousand
foot
buffer.
B
B
B
It
is
not
a
good
thing
for
district
8..
It
is
not
I,
don't
even
think
it's
a
good
thing
for
the
city
as
a
whole,
once
again
overlay
who
has
the
overlay
nine
seven
yeah?
Okay,
so
then
we
are
left
with
those
that
don't
have
to
deal
with
them
at
all,
but
even
with
the
overlay
who
is
going
to
take
the
brunt
of
the
short-term
vacation
rentals
that
is
going
to
come
in
with
a
500
foot
buffer
me,
you
may
take
some
seven
may
take
some,
but
they're
gonna
fall
here.
B
This
is
something
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
but
if
they
are
businesses
which
they
are,
the
commercial
corridors
should
be
explored
and
looked
into
if
I'll
use
historic
Orthodox,
because
that's
where
I
live.
If
a
short-term
vacation
really
wanted
to
come
in
on
3rd
Street,
McCauley
or
Laura
I
mean
a
host
club.
B
Fine,
no
problem,
but
to
continue
to
let
them
pile
up
in
the
middle
of
neighborhoods.
Businesses
is
what
they
are,
then
that's,
not
a
good
thing.
I'm,
just
not
willing
I
mean
I
might
have
to
take
it.
If
that's
the
way,
it
goes,
but
that's
not
something
that
I
think
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
The
scales
of
Justice
here
is
not
balanced
in
any
shape,
form
or
fashion.
We
dragging
the
ground
here
with
it.
A
F
F
It's
acceptable
all
over
the
place
and
we're
looking
at
it
as
we're
not
looking
and
I
think
I
said
it
last
week.
These
are
businesses,
they
should
be
taxed
as
businesses,
they
are
businesses
and
they
should
be
only
in
the
commercial
Corridor.
That's
right
that
that's
number
one
number,
two
and
and
I
think
my
district
could
go
along
with
that
number
two:
it's
taking
where
housing
stock
and
we
desperately
need
our
housing
stock.
F
E
Believe
it
does
here,
at
least
it's
the
defining
areas
of
the
city
the
short-term
vacation
rentals
can
be
had
within
it
does
not
allow
them
throughout
the
entire
city.
It
actually
does
have
I
guess
density
requirements
here
within
the
code.
That
I
believe
will
work
in
that
regard,
and
it
protects
those
folks
that
had
already
been
operating
Port
before
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
trying
to
make
sure
we
were
not
does.
F
D
F
At
this
point,
Mr
chair
because
of
the
taxation
issue,
which
is
another
issue
I'm
looking
at
this
as
a
way
that
went
shouldn't
go
forward,
it
would
be
acceptable
to
the
people
in
my
district
right
now.
We
don't
have
that
concern
I,
think
it
probably
will
go
city
wide
and
at
this
point,
I'm
not
ready
to
go
forward
and
vote
Yes
with
it.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilman.
A
G
H
G
The
administration,
just
to
give
you
all
a
quick
reminder
since
councilman
Burrs,
is
not
sure
of
how
it
all
came
together.
The
administration
followed
the
city
council
ad
hoc
committee
for
almost
six
months
and
did
a
great
deal
of
heavy
lifting
and
brought
an
ordinance,
which
you
all
will
remember,
largely
appeared
in
green
on
the
document
that
I
brought
the
council
later.
G
G
This
body
had
a
conversation
or
two,
and
it
was
clear
to
councilman
Henderson
that
that
was
not
gaining
traction
within
this
Council
and
so
councilman
Henderson
asked
Phil
to
bring
an
alternative
approach,
which
was
the
density
overlays,
the
the
buffers
a
buffer
and
a
percentage
I
felt
like
we
needed
some
of
the
clarity
that
the
administration's
version
brought,
and
so
we
put
them
all
together.
That's
the
history
of
this,
and
we've
been
doing
this
for
about
eight
months
now.
G
G
Well,
the
reality
is
that
almost
all
of
the
new
property
being
zoned
in
district
7
is
going
to
be
commercial
and
able
to
be
a
hotel
right,
ugc
we're
going
into
mixed
views,
land
zoning,
so
we
can't
just
broad
stroke
that
we
have
to
be
really
thoughtful
about
it.
So
I
don't
know
that
that
I
or
councilman
Henderson
are
at
a
place
where
this
is
like.
G
We
take
this
personally
I
I,
don't
this
is
work
that
I've
been
doing
on
behalf
of
the
council
and
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
who
then
will
carry
it
the
next
step?
If
we
don't
vote
on
this
and
we
don't
move
forward
because
the
reality
is,
this
moratorium
is
going
to
expire,
and
we
owe
the
people
of
Chattanooga
all
the
stakeholders,
whether
there
are
neighborhoods
or
whether
they
are
our
investors.
I
A
I
Just
first
thank
you:
councilman
Henderson
and
councilwoman
Hill
for
putting
in
so
much
work
into
this
I
appreciate
it
and
I
agree
with
you
all
in
that
we
just
need
to
move
forward
because
at
some
point
we're
gonna
have
to,
and
we
need
to
give
the
clarity
to
the
administration
to
go
ahead
and
hire
the
administrative
hearing
officer.
We
also
do
owe
it
to
our
constituents
with
the
person
as
the
representative
of
the
person
with
the
most
in
her
District.
I
What
I
find
with
my
constituents
is.
It
was
just
enforcement
really
it's
about
enforcement
and
that
buffer
and
getting
feedback
from
them
and
most
of
you
have
received
receive
feedback
from
many
people.
In
my
district,
it's
just
an
important
I
mean
enforcement
was
the
really
big
issue
and
I
think
we've
tackled
that
a
lot
in
here,
and
you
know
it
may
not
be
the
perfect
ordinance,
but
it
is
a
start.
I
Let's
look
at
it
in
a
year
six
months,
whatever
whoever
decides
to
pick
that
up
like
you're
saying
whoever
decides
to
pull
that
for
because
this
is
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
research,
a
lot
of
talking
a
lot
of
conversations
and
so
I
think
I
think
it's
been
done
well.
I
did
want
to
address
councilman
Burris
mentioned
tax
being
taxed
as
a
business,
councilman
Hill
I
believe
you
addressed
that
a
couple
months
ago.
I
I
That,
okay,
that's
what
I
thought
I
was
like.
I
know
you
addressed
it.
You
mentioned
that
and
I.
Don't
think.
We've
covered
it
as
much
in
this
in
our
conversations,
but
so
it
is
it
is,
it
is
a
dress.
We
just
haven't
been
doing
it
on
our
end
as
a
city
texting
them
as
a
business
essay,
because
they
are
businesses
and
taxing
them
as
a
business
as
we
should
okay,
but
we
we
have.
We
will
start
that
or
have
started
that.
B
J
You
I
do
think
that
councilman,
Henderson
and
councilman
Hill
both
did
a
great
job
but
and
I
hope.
This
will
be
the
last
time
that
we
have
to
revisit
this
because
for
six
years
we've
been
tackling
this
same
issue
year
after
year
after
year
after
year,
and
at
some
point-
and
we
keep
saying-
oh-
it's
not
a
perfect
document,
but
that's
just
what
well.
J
We
said
the
same
thing
last
year
we
said
the
same
thing
the
year
before
that
until
somebody
else
comes
up
with
another
bright
idea
that
gets
elected
on
Council
and
want
to
change
it.
But
I
do
thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you've
done
on
it.
I
appreciate
your
in-depthness
councilwoman.
Here
you
remind
me
of
of
our
chairman
because
he
does
the
same
exact
thing,
but
I
appreciate
that.
J
But
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
councilwoman
over
in
Noel,
like
her
feelings,
are
valid
for
for
her
community
and
when
you
think
about
our
areas,
they're
saturated
with
it.
Why?
Because
majority
of
the
people,
the
renters
and
investors,
are
coming
in
our
community
because
they're
so
distressed
and
impoverished,
it's
easy
for
them
to
just
come
by
blocks
at
a
time,
and
then,
if
we
do
have
you
know
our
own
somebody,
that's
just
trying
to
supplement
their
income.
J
We
make
the
process
extremely
hard
for
those
individuals,
so
just
make
some
income
and
I've
stated
since
the
beginning,
since
I've
been
on
Council
like
I,
don't
think
that
we
should
be
telling
homeowners
what
to
do
with
their
property.
It's
they
are
the
owners
if
you
want
to
rent
a
room
out
rent
it.
If
it's
in
line
with
what
the
code
say,
hey,
you
should
be
able
to
do
it.
J
We
shouldn't
be
coming
in
saying:
oh
well,
you
we
don't
want
you
to
do
this,
so
we
don't
want
you
to
do
that,
like
I,
think
we
should
look
at
it
in
a
different
way
as
to
who
it
is
investors,
if
you,
you
know
your
age
you're,
just
looking
for
for
a
supplemental
income
and
if
that
happened
already
great
chip,
you
bench
and
access-
and
we
talk
about
this
all
the
time
in
our
communities.
A
lot
of
digital
Equity
is
an
issue.
A
lot
of
people.
J
Don't
have
access
to
Internet
a
lot
of
people,
don't
have
transportation,
who
you
would
think
need
to
be
at
the
meetings
when
we're
having
these
ad
hoc
committed
me
is
in
the
middle
of
the
day.
A
lot
of
our
constituents
are
at
work.
They
can't
attend
the
meetings.
A
lot
of
seniors
don't
have
the
equipment
to
even
get
online
if
it
was
offered
to
be
at
line
online.
J
So
that's
that
it
sounds
good
to
say,
but
it's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
of
Chattanooga
that
they're
not
having
the
access
to
these
meetings
when
we
when
we
offer
them
during
that
time,
the
people
who
mail
it
probably
was
at
the
million
or
the
ones
who
can
get
it
it.
Ain't
like
it,
was
a
packed
room
where
we
had
overflow
that
we
had
to
go
to
a
stadium
and
say
wow.
This
issue.
Is
that
huge?
J
It's
really
sad
that
we
haven't
asked-
and
this
happens
quite
often-
and
it
goes
back
to
depending
on
who
make
the
asset,
whether
if
it's
granted
or
not,
but
she
kindly
asked
hey.
Can
we
just
wait
until
I
get
my
questions
answered
because
some
of
the
information
that
I
requested
we
got
it
at
the
last
minute?
Can
we
just
wait?
If
that's
we
could
say:
okay
well,
I'ma,
we
can
put
it
out
for
a
week,
then
we're
gonna
get
our
questions
answered
jota.
J
G
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
couple
things
and
we
have
had
multiple
stakeholder
meetings,
one
of
which
was
in
the
evening
specifically
for
neighborhoods.
It
was
Bessie,
Smith
Hall
was
extraordinarily
well
attended.
I
would
not
want
a
narrative
out
there
that
we
did
not
welcome
our
communities
into
this
conversation.
I
think,
if
anything,
our
investors
would
say
that
the
communities
are
in
fact
benefiting
significantly
from
this.
G
G
Do
we
have
any
commitment
that
a
week
from
now
you'll
there
will
be
a
change
or
I
mean
help
me
understand?
What's
going
to
be
different
next
week,
because
we're
I
don't
I,
don't
think
chip
nor
I
are
trying
to
be
ungracious,
but
it's
like
we've
had
this
many
weeks
where
we're
trying
to
get
feedback
I
mean
if
anything
y'all
had
a
checklists
of
consensus
right.
So
so
help
me
understand:
what's
going
to
be
different
next
week,
so
we'll
be
ready,
yes
or.
E
Said
you
know,
let
me
chime
in
that
was
the
reason.
I
was
asking
a
while
ago
what
questions
you
had
so
that
maybe
we
could
start
working
on
those
if
it
was
questioning
about
legislation
or
if
it's
a
question
about
illegal
ones,
I
think
that's
a
different,
that's
kind
of
a
different
scenario.
Really.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
focus
on
questions
about
the
ordinance
itself
and
then
the
questions
about
the
illegal
ones.
You
know
we
can
kind
of
take
care
of
some.
E
B
I
can
give
you
a
list,
but
the
gist
of
it
is
District.
8
is
still
going
to
have
to
deal
with
a
lot
more
of
short-term
vacation
rentals,
which
we
do
not
want.
The
constituents
have
made
it
plain
and
clear:
they
have
blew
my
email
up.
They
have
blew
my
phone
up.
They
don't
want
any
more,
they
are
done
with
it.
So
you
know
it's
a
democratic
way.
B
B
B
E
We
need
to
be,
you
know,
treat
each
other
fairly,
so
I've
got
so
I
want.
So
I
want
to
address
two
things,
one
so
I
I
guess
I'll
know,
since
this
was
the
latest,
but
so
back
when
this
legislation
originally
passed
for
short-term
vacation
rentals.
There
was
a
district,
eight
representative
at
that
time
that
supported
this
being
in
District
date.
E
E
E
If
you
know
he
as
far
as
I
know
left
it
just
as
it
was
didn't,
add
anything
didn't
take
anything
away.
I
added
some
because
district
one
I
don't
very
little
of
district.
One
was
in
the
overlay
but
I
added
to
it
at
that
time.
The
district
2
representative
added
some
to
District
Two.
So
so
there
was
representation,
District
8
had
representation
at
the
table
when
the
overlay
was
created.
E
I
will
say
that
much
so
it
was
it
wasn't
like
anybody
on
this
Council
said:
District
8
is
going
to
have
it
and
they're
going
to
like
it.
That
representative
had
an
opportunity
to
take
it
out.
They
could
have
took
all
of
District
8
out
if
they
wanted
to
at
the
time,
but
now
now
that
it's
in
Mr
attorney
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
we
can't
reduce
the
footprint
once
we've
established
it
and
once
we
have
these
businesses
established,
we
can't
remove
that
correct.
E
E
E
Yes,
I
believe
you
could
amend
your
District,
so
so
I
guess
councilwoman.
If
you
want
to
amend
the
overlay
and
that
can
be
brought
up
at
any
time,
and
we
do
that
from
time
to
time
we
do
amend
it.
We
amend
the
overlay
separate
from
the
legislation.
So
if
you
would
like
to
amend
the
overlay
for
your
District,
if
what
I'm
understanding
from
the
attorney,
you
can
do
that.
E
B
E
You
know
to
to
a
meeting
downtown
I
mean
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
it's
even
a
possibility,
since
the
board
will
be
meeting
the
short-term
vacation
rental
board
that
you
know,
would
it
be
possible
I'm,
throwing
out
this
idea
if
they
took
their
show
on
the
road,
and
if
you
had
objections
in
a
particular
neighborhood,
maybe
you
take
it
to
that.
You
take
it
to
a
community
center
in
that
neighborhood
I
certainly
want
to
be
sensitive
to
access.
E
It's
not
fair
to
say
people
have
a
voice
if
they
can't
get
there
for
their
voice
to
be
heard
and
I
agree
with
that
statement.
So
I
think
it's
maybe
up
to
us
to
think
of
some
creative
ideas.
Okay,
let's
figure
out
how
we
address
that
and-
and
maybe
it's
through
policy-
maybe
it's
through
since
this
board
is
going
to
hear
objections
to
a
permit.
You
know
we
usually
heard
that
the
the
hearings
during
the
council
meeting
they
won't
be.
E
They
won't
have
to
be
tied
to
that
I'm
thinking
they
might
be
able
to
take
it
to
a
community
center
to
hear
it
in
a
certain
location.
So
you
know
if
those
are
the
things
that
we
can
do
to
accommodate
and
make
sure
that
people
actually
have
a
voice
and
that
voice
is
heard.
I'm
I'm
all
for
trying
to
come
up
with
Solutions
and
I'm
willing
to
talk
talk
with
you
about
that
and
come
up
with
with
ideas,
because
I
do
want
to
be
sensitive
to
that.
Thank.
J
You
chip,
I
I,
really
appreciate
that,
because
after
six
o'clock,
if
I
didn't
have
transportation,
I
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
get
to
the
meeting,
but
I
appreciate
you
councilwoman
here
for
hosting
the
six
o'clock
men
at
the
Bessie,
but
there's
communities
like
Eastdale,
like
of
Highway
58
area,
where
we
don't
have
access
to
Transportation.
Maybe
we
could,
you
know,
like
you,
said,
take
the
show
on
the
road
and
go
to
those
areas
so
host
a
meeting
at
six
o'clock
in
Avondale
to
talk
about
it,
maybe
get
with
Miss
Lisa
with
Carter.
To
say:
hey!
J
A
In
2017,
when
we
started
talking
about
this,
we
had
the
option
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
Councilman
Henderson
we
had
the
option
to
opt
in.
We
had
the
option
to
opt
out
at
that
time.
District
8
chose
to
opt
in
at
that
time,
District
nine.
If
my
memory
serves
correctly,
chose
to
opt
out
and
then
not
too
long
after
chose
to
opt
in
if
I
councilman.
If
I
am
incorrect,
please
tell
me
but
I
believe
that's
what
my
memory
recalls
not
too
long
after
we
started
the
conversation.
A
We've
always
had
the
option
when
this
year
I
have
gone
and
intended
to
five
Community
meetings,
and
so
I've
been
kind
of
doing
my
research
and
homework
some
of
these
organization
or
HOAs.
If
you
will
and
neighborhood
associations
have
up
to
two
or
three
hundred
residents
in
them
and
I
asked
the
same
question
as
I
have
done
since
campaigning
in
2016.
This
is
a
repeat
of
what
I
have
said
before
and
asked
about
the
short-term
vacation
rental
in
their
neighborhoods.
A
Do
you
consider
these
a
business,
and
would
you
object
to
them
if
they
were
operating
in
under
a
commercial
Zone
such
as
C2
and
or
on
a
commercial
Corridor?
So
that's
interesting.
This
conversation
is
is
coming
up
to
my
left,
because
it's
the
exact
question
and
oddly
enough,
not
one
person
in
these
neighborhood
associations
objected
to
that
idea.
Matter
of
fact,
most
of
what
I
heard
was
well,
that's
where
they
belong
and
I
thought.
Okay,
very
interesting.
A
The
last
one
was
just
last
Thursday
at
the
Hamilton
YMCA
and
that's
178
homes
that
represented
and
and
I've
asked
each
HOA
to
pen
me
a
letter
with
their
opinion
so
that
it's
not
just
me
repeating
this
for
David
Floyd
to
to
repeat,
but
I'll
actually
be
able
to
back
it
up
with
some
documentation.
But
I've
been
doing
this
for
years
and
the
opinion
has
not
changed.
A
I
think
these
are
a
business
I
think
we
should
treat
them
as
a
business
and
when
we
held
our
work
session,
which,
by
the
way
was
overflowing
from
the
conference
room,
there
were
so
many
people
in
attendance.
We
moved
it
into
here
because
of
so
many
people
that
were
able
to
attend,
and
it
was
both
residential
residents
and
Industry
leaders.
A
I
asked
that
question
to
the
folks
out
there
who
were
willing
to
participate,
and
they
did
and
I
said.
Do
you
consider
yourself
this
business,
a
business
and
the
answer?
A
lot
of
hands
went
up.
We
talked
about
the
tax
rate
and
people
said
they
understood
that
as
well.
So
I
think
when
we're
looking
at
short-term
vacation
rental.
A
A
Well,
would
you
like
for
someone
to
sell
Widgets
or
whatever
it
was
he
used
a
different
term,
I'll,
say
widgets?
Would
you
allow
that
in
the
middle
of
our
neighborhood,
or
would
you
allow
hotel
to
operate
in
the
middle
of
our
neighborhood
and
I
said?
Well,
obviously,
we
would
not.
He
said:
okay,
there's
your
answer
and
I
said:
okay
there
it
is,
it
really
is
cut
and
dry.
So
and
some
of
the
conversation
I
want
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
track.
We
were
kind
of
tiptoeing
into
Homestay
which
we're
not
talking
about
right.
A
A
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
should
have
expected
anything.
Different
I
certainly
saw
something
years
ago,
which
is
why
and
one
person
it's
a
great
question.
I'll.
Let
me
let
me
take
a
side
road.
He.
He
asked
me
in
the
meeting
on
Thursday.
What's
keeping
us
from
falling
victim
to
short-term
vacation,
rentals
I
said
well
number
one
and
I
gave
councilman
Henderson
Kudos
on
this
because
he
was
very
active
in
making
sure
and
I
was
as
well
making
sure
HOAs
were
protected.
You
don't
operate
a
business,
that's
interesting!
A
We
don't
operate
a
business
if
you're,
Cubs
and
regs
don't
allow
it
so
I
think
that's
very
interesting
to
note
so
that
kind
of
ties
back
to
short-term
vacation
rentals,
our
businesses,
but
this
person
asked
me
what's
keeping
them
from
coming
into
our
neighborhoods
and
I.
Quite
frankly,
just
said:
well,
it's
a
very
fragile
wall
and
that
wall
is
called
Darren
because
five
votes
on
the
city
council
and
unless
you
have
an
HOA
that
has
Cubs
and
Rags
I
said
then
you're
going
to
be
inundated
with
them
and
he
said
well
interesting
words.
A
You
use
inundated
I
said
well,
you
should
use
that
word
inundated
because
the
research
shows
and
our
own
times
three
press
articles
show
there
are
tens
and
tens
and
tens
and
tens
and
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
of
investment
waiting
to
hit
for
short-term
vacation
rentals.
In
this
city
we
were
told
we
were
told
one
day
that
it
was
not
an
interest
and
the
next
day
the
paper
told
us
a
completely
different
story.
So
I
believe
that
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
investment
that
is
wanting
to
come
into
this
city-wide.
A
So
when
we
have
the
conversation
city-wide,
you
would
ask
me
and
Dr
Birds
I'm,
going
to
agree
with
you,
yeah
I,
would
say.
District
4
would
probably
welcome
these
open
arms
if
they
were
in
a
commercial
Zone
under
commercial
zoning
along
a
commercial
Corridor,
and
then
that
that
solves
that,
but
interior
in
our
neighborhoods,
the
fabric
of
our
neighborhoods,
are
are
so
unique
in
each
part
of
our
city
and
I've
heard
it
set
out
here
once
before
someone
from
the
podium.
Well,
it's
good
for
one
place
is
good
for
everybody.
A
I
tend
to
disagree
with
that.
I.
Don't
think
that's
necessarily
true,
because
every
house
is
different,
every
house
has
different
values
and
I.
Think
that's
what
makes
us
a
unique
Society
is
that
we,
we
should
always
accept
a
multitude
of
different
ideas
and
be
able
to
to
form
our
own
for
what's
good
for
us,
so
I
think
District
Four
is
definitely
not
interested
in
the
R1
District
4
is
not
interested
in
having
them
come
into
neighborhoods
and
the
traffic
and
everything
that
comes
with
it.
A
If
you
think
this
is
unique
to
Chattanooga
Tennessee,
oh
goodness,
look
at
Savannah
Georgia,
look
at
Chatham
County,
one
of
my
test
cases,
Tybee
Island,
almost
50
percent
of
their
real
estate
in
their
neighborhood's
gone
to
short-term
vacation,
rentals
they're
they're
their
entire.
What
used
to
be
Tybee
Island's
neighborhood
is
just
it's
disintegrated.
Thunderbolt
in
Chatham
County
as
well.
A
I
had
to
go
in
they've
had
this
same
painful
conversation
and
they
just
had
recently
enacted
their
own
density
cap
because
they
found
I
think
it
was
38
or
48
again
a
high
number
of
their
that
the
housing
was
being
taken
and,
like
I
said
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
a
couple
of
work
sessions
ago,
once
we
lose
this
stock.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
it's
gone.
It
is
gone.
It
ain't
coming
back
because
it's
too
profitable
you
operate.
This
is
a
business
and
it
is
profitable.
A
A
What's
going
on
in
each
other's
districts
and
I've
learned
so
much
from
from
being
patient
and
listening
to
to
what
you
all
have
to
say,
because
you
are
the
voice
of
your
people
and
I
know
that
I've
been
out
there
talking
with
my
residents
all
year
so
far,
adding
that
extra
component,
because
I
and
here's
the
thing
I've
asked
them.
Do
you
think
this
will
stay
in
the
overlay?
Do
you
think
this
will
become
city-wide
at
some
point?
Nobody
thinks
that
it.
A
It
will
stay
the
way
it
is
forever
and
I
think
that's
a
very
realistic
thought
and
so
I'm
posing
to
them
now.
You
know
what
does
it
look
like,
but
it
still
remains
that
inside
of
our
neighborhoods
we
would
we
would
like
businesses
not
to
come
in
and
that's
the
way
District
Four
is
is
positioned
on
this.
So
opening
this
up
for
conversation
in
a
year,
I'm
just
telling
you,
if
I'm
still
here
on
this
Earth
I'm,
going
to
be
saying
the
same
thing
thanks,
but
no
thanks.
A
A
G
I
believe
that,
to
be
true,
I
mean
we
see
far
out
in
the
county,
we're
getting
smaller
lot
sizes
we're
getting
homes
closer
together,
we're
seeing
in
our
Urban
centers
large-scale
buildings
going
up
we're
in
neighborhood
effectively
can
be
a
building
we're
looking
at
one.
We
one
came
across
the
Planning
Commission
last
month.
That
I
mean
it's
a
full
City
Block
y'all.
It
is
a
five-story
full
city
block.
G
So
if
this
council
is
going
to
think
about
whether
short-term
vacation
rentals
should
be
available
quote
in
our
neighborhoods,
what
does
a
neighborhood
15
years
from
now
look
like,
because
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
those
neighborhoods,
not
the
neighborhoods,
we've
already
built,
because
I've
got
entire
sections
of
District
2
that
were
built
in
the
50s
and
60s
that
are
cul-de-sac
neighborhoods.
That
20
years
from
now
could
be
a
very
different
place.
G
Right
I
mean
we're,
gonna
need
land
and
those
houses
are
going
to
change
owners.
It's
just
going
to
change
so
I,
wonder
Karen.
This
is
putting
you
on
the
spot,
Karen
renick,
about
zoning.
A
conversation
has
been
had
about
if
something
is
in
a
commercial
Zone,
the
potential
of
opening
that
up
to
short-term
vacation
rental.
Another
idea
that
has
been
brought
is
quote:
if
you
could
have
a
hotel
in
a
Zone,
you
should
be
able
to
have
a
short-term
rental
in
a
Zone,
some
people
say
without
any
caps.
G
H
H
G
H
H
G
G
G
This
is
District
Two
in
purple.
I
can't
personally
give
away
all
that
yellow
in
my
little
sea
of
purple,
25
of
that
to
short-term
vacation
rental,
which
is
why,
when
councilman
Henderson
brought
this
density
cap
I
thought
now.
That's
something
that
is
clearer
and
I
knew
that
at
the
500
foot
buffer
we'd
be
looking
at
less
than
five
percent
of
our
single
family
detach
being
available.
The
short
term.
G
E
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
get
to
some
kind
of
resolution
because
we're
this
is
on
the
agenda
tonight.
We
have
first
asked
for
a
deferral
for
a
week
to
get
questions,
answers
and
and
I'm
kind
of
still
looking
for
what
the
questions
are,
but
so
so
Mr
chair
you
brought
up
and
and
I
as
we
went
through
this
whole
process.
I
heard
you
say
over
and
over
again
you
know,
District
Four
doesn't
want
it.
District
Four
doesn't
want
it
and
then
I
heard
you
say
today.
E
Well
maybe
in
the
commercial
zones
they
want
it
so
I
guess
what
I'm
I
guess?
What
I'm
curious
to
know
is.
Maybe
you
and
councilwoman
Burrs
that
that
said
earlier,
whenever
the
administration
brought
their
proposal,
you
weren't
quite
ready
for
that.
Yet,
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
hit
a
lifting
of
a
moratorium,
it
really,
we
really
did
not
have
anything
in
place.
So
I
guess
I'm
asking.
If
we
went
back
to
the
original
proposal
that
was
made.
E
A
I
would
be
very
interested
in
having
that
conversation.
Yes,
because
I
the
way
I
have
framed
the
question
and
councilman
Smith
I'm
not
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
do
would
appreciate
your
your
two
cents
as
well.
You
don't
need
to
we're
in
open
discussion
so
but
yes,
councilman.
The
conversation
as
this
has
evolved
over
time
has
come
into
in
a
commercial
Court.
A
I've
always
been
interested
in
that
concept,
but
when
I'm
out
there
and
Springtime
is
my
HOA
meetings,
so
I'm
going
to
use
like
two
a
week
for
for
like
three
months
and
it's
great,
because
I
get
to
get
in
there
and
just
talk
and
and
and
take
all
the
arrows
and
have
this
conversation.
But
what's
interesting
is
what
I'm
listening
to
folks
and
they're
saying
to
me?
Well,
just
keep
it
out
of
my
neighborhood.
We
just
don't
want
a
hotel
in
our
neighborhood
when
it
was
on
Gun
Barrel
under
a
commercial
Zone.
E
To
be
a
little
bit
different
conversation
now
than
what
was
had
when
the
administration
brought
that
original
piece
of
legislation,
you
we're
not
ready
for
it
that,
and
so,
when
I
heard
we're
not
ready
for
it.
I'm
like
well,
okay,
the
mortar
is
going
to
live.
We
need
something
in
place
that
creates
a
board
that
creates
aho,
so
I
I.
A
E
G
C
E
E
K
K
So
when
the
first
legislation
came
up
it
had
it
home
stays
in
residential
I
was
not
in
favor
of
moving
forward
that
way
and
then
I
recommended
doing
them
by
Zone
and
that
got
shot
down
by
the
body
and
now
we're
right
back
to
talking
about
doing
them
by
his
own.
So
you
know
at
this
point:
I'm,
it
just
seems
like
yeah.
Muddy
in
the
waters
is
a
small
way
to
to
put
it
as
to
where
we
have
gotten,
but
that's
where
I
was
then
that's
where
I
am
today.
Yeah.
C
F
E
F
The
neighborhoods
absolutely
not,
and
the
legislation
that
we
have
now
that's
the
reason
I
can't
support
it
is
because
it
should
be
very
simple
legislation
that
says
that
it
makes
it
very
clear
that
we're
not
invading
our
housing
stock
and
one
way
or
the
other.
The
next
thing
we
have
on
the
decision
tree
is
the
administration
administrative
hearing
officer,
which
is
not
a
doubt
in
my
mind.
It
should
go
forward
right
now,
regardless,
because
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
and
start
showing
that
we
can
do
what
we
promise
to
do.
A
You
all
right,
I'm,
going
to
take
us
out
of
open
discussion,
I'm
going
to
clear
the
queue
and
we
are
going
to
move
forward.
I
do
need
at
least
15
minutes
in
the
conference
room
for
attorney
client,
medical
clerk,
we're
going
to
move
quickly
through
ordinances
on
first
reading,
we've
covered
a
b
anything
to
add
on
that
councilwoman,
URS
or
councilman.
Smith
think
we
that
one
is
covered
well
under
planning
items.
I
do
have
a
note
that
we
may
need
a
deferral
on
item
ck0017
that
can
be
addressed
at
six
o'clock.
I
do
believe.
A
A
A
We
can,
if
you
would
have
those
ready,
if
that's
something
that
can
be
added
if
you
have
discussed
that
with
the
city
attorney
and
RPA,
either
that
or
we'll
need
to
make
that
motion
from
the
floor,
I'd
like
to
see
it
cleaned
up,
maybe
in
an
alternate
version
or
added
to
that,
if
possible
before
six
o'clock.
Let
me
know
if
not
we'll
move
through
the
from
the
floor
motion
under
Public
Works
we're
going
to
do
a
couple
of
items
there.
A
In
seven
and
eight
we
have
four
purchases:
two
committee
reports,
zero
rfps
and
zero
emergency
purchases.
If
I
am
moving
fast,
I
will
look
up
periodically
at
the
light
moving
into
next
week.
We
have
our
planning
items
that
we
will
on
our
proposed
agenda
still
like
that
word,
and
then
we
will
move
into
Council
Office.
We
have
a
resolution
confirming
a
appointment
for
Mr
noblet
as
Chattanooga
City
attorney,
which
looks
like
all
nine
council
members
have
signed
on,
including
obviously
the
mayor
who
agreed
so
sorry
press.
A
No,
no,
nothing
for
you
to
report
there
and
we
also
have
a
new
rules
of
operation
that
were
discussed
in
our
meetings
in
strategic
planning
under
legal
and
mayor's
office.
If
you'll
take
a
look
at
that,
Community
advisory
committee
appointments
foreign,
okay-
we
do
not
have
any
committee
reports
this
afternoon.
A
I
You
for
that,
so
you
are
always
here
last
and
I'll
see
you
all
were
here
last
week
or
the
week
before
last
when
we
honored
the
stories
with
Kelly,
and
so
we
will
have
her
sign
unveiling
next
Wednesday
at
12
o'clock
at
Tennessee
Avenue
on
46th
Street
in
Saint
Elmo.
If
anybody
would
like
to
come,
I
want
to
thank
Ben
so
much
for
helping
with
that.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
A
Thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
awesome.
If
you
would
Council
take
a
look
at
your
future
considerations.
Bill
we
did
remove
the
duplicate
item,
I
believe
correct
there.
You
are
hiding
behind
Ben
there,
so
we
were
able
to
do
that.
Council
people
look
at
Future
considerations
and
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
again.
We
have
no
Department
reports
and
new
committees.
We
do
have
an
attorney-client
meeting
in
the
conference
room,
any
questions
or
comments
or
other
business
to
come
before
this
Council.
Before
we
adjourn
to
attorney
client
seeing
none.