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City Council Agenda Session 8-2-22
A
B
A
A
Very
good-
and
we
did
cover
this
in
committee
last
week,
chairman
hester-
is
that
correct
and
asked
substantial
questions.
I
don't
see
any
lights
on
this
item
so
moving
into
our
purchasing
questions.
We
have
three
purchases
tonight.
If
you'll
take
a
look
at
those,
you
did
receive
these
earlier
in
the
week
and
we
have
two
rfps
that
are
in
our
packet
as
well.
This
evening,
madam
vice
chair,.
D
Yes,
vice
chairwoman,
dialing
thanks.
This
was
something
that
was
originally
included
in
the
fiscal
year
22
budget.
This
was
something
that
mayor
kelly
heard
about
from
first
responders
during
the
campaign,
and
we
included
money
in
the
budget
to
do
a
pilot
for
mental
health
services
or
behavioral
health
behavioral
health
services
for
first
responders
in
particular.
D
So
currently
you
know,
firefighters
and
police
officers
are
able
to
get
the
same
services
that
we
offer
to
all
employees,
but,
as
we
all
know,
first
responders
have
different
needs
when
it
comes
to
mental
health,
and
so
what
this
is
for
is
for
us
to
go
and
find
a
service
provider
that
could
provide
specific
services
for
first
responders
that
meets
the
needs
of
first
responders,
and
this
would
essentially
be
a
pilot
until
and
see
how
it
goes
and
start
building
that
out.
A
D
A
F
G
F
So
a
couple
of
questions-
and
I
see
we've
got
representatives
from
the
lookouts
and
from
perimeter
properties
here
today.
I
think,
I
think,
to
help
me
understand
better
when
we
approve
the
tif
district,
we're
approving
that
for
30
years,
correct
that.
G
F
Okay,
so
when
we
define
the
the
project,
I
guess
yes
is
the
project
more
than
the
stadium,
because
I
guess
what
had
me
curious.
I
thought
I
understood
mr
goldberg
at
some
point
in
time
say
that
you
know
he
anticipated
getting
the
stadium
paid
off
earlier
than
30
years
because
of
the
amount
of
of
development.
That
would
happen,
but
then
he
also
mentioned
you
know,
money
that
was
additional
to
the
stadium
could
go
for
infrastructure.
G
F
D
D
It
is
the
the
most
conservative
way
to
do
this
for
the
early
years,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
smallest
debt
service
payment
possible.
You'll
recall
we're
capitalizing
interest
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
any
debt
payments
for
two
years.
While
we
build
the
stadium
for
the
first
few
years.
We
want
the
smallest
debt
service
possible,
and
this
is
based
on
models
that
they
use
they're
using
in
knoxville
currently
and
that
they've
used
in
other
places.
D
D
Then
that
is
the
point
when
I
think
you
know
the
city,
the
cfo,
whether
it's
me
or
someone
else,
would
come
to
council
and
say
we're
sufficient.
Now
we're
asking
that
the
that
this
tiff
be
amended
to
you
know
maybe
be
a
15
or
20-year
tif
versus
a
30-year
tif.
Then
100
would
start
coming
into
the
general
fund.
But
until
that
point
we
want
enough
increment
generated
to
pay
off
the
stadium.
D
Capital
reserve
pay
back
the
city
and
county
for
any
debt
service
that
we
might
have
to
cover
in
the
early
years
and
build
alton
park
connector.
Those
four
things
are
laid
out
in
the
economic
impact
plan.
Once
those
four
things
are
met,
even
if
the
tif
has
not
been
amended.
Additional
increment
is
still
accumulated,
held
by
the
idb
and
allocated
for
infrastructure
or
anything
else,
that's
needed
throughout
the
tif
district.
So
you
know
there
there
is
a
way
to
use
that
money
similar
to
how
we
would
use
it
in
general
fund
for
capital
projects.
D
It's
just
allocated
by
the
idb,
but
I
would
say
that
in
the
future,
once
we
get
enough
increment
to
refinance
the
bonds
and
pay
them
off
early,
the
city,
whoever
the
finance
administrator
is,
will
certainly
be
coming
to
city
council
to
ask
for
an
amendment
to
that
tif
so
that
we
can
start
capturing
100.
F
Okay
and
jermaine,
let
me
thank
you
brent
for
that
on
our
mouse.
Have
we
have
we
got
those
worked
out
to
where
we
have
some
actual
clawbacks
or
maybe
penalties
if
the
development
does
not
occur,
because
I
think
that's,
you
know
what
I
keep
hearing
from
constituents
is
and
reading
is
you
know
to
protect
the
taxpayers?
So
you
know
what
what
I'm
looking
for
is
you
know
to
create
a
plan
that
that
generates
this
revenue,
but
but
it
also
reduces
as
much
risk
as
we
possibly
can
to
the
taxpayers.
G
Right
so
the
mouse
and
what
and
we
obviously
have
one
of
the
property
owners
here
from
perimeter
properties.
G
The
donation
of
the
land
that
would
be
used
for
the
sports
authority
is
a
donation
that
is
going
to
happen,
no
matter
what
provided
that
the
tif
is
approved
and
that
a
sports
authority
is
created.
That
is
not
an
insignificant
piece
of
land
that
that
would
be
donated.
G
We
were
talking
about
somewhere
in
the
range
of
between
8
to
15,
acres
of
land
right
now,
core
development,
currently
values
and
appraises
the
land
that
they
have
at
about
a
million
dollars,
an
acre
and
so
you're
talking
about
a
significant
piece
of
land
that
will
become
the
property
of
the
sports
authority
once
the
sports
authority
is
created
and
if
the
tif
is
approved,
and
then
that
at
that
point,
that
land
will
never
go
back
to
the
property
owners
that
will
be
publicly
owned
land
in
perpetuity.
G
And
so
as
of
right.
Now
we
have
the
mouss
drafted
for
both
our
partners
with
hardball
capital
and
also
with
perimeter
properties,
which
will
also
be
accompanied
by
the
commitment
from
core
development
which
is
attached
to
the
mou
at
this
current
time
and
then
yeah.
I
lost
my
train
of
thought,
but
but
but
but
those
are
the
things
oh.
G
What
I
was
going
to
mention
is
is
that
when
it
comes
to
some
of
the
stuff
that
will
come
along
with
the
baseball,
a
lot
of
that
language
will
also
be
contained
in
the
lease
agreement
that
the
baseball
team
signs
with
the
sports
authority,
because
and
that
will
oversee
and
govern
much
of
the
sort
of
requirements
in
clawback,
language
for
the
baseball
team
and
then,
as
as
we
continue
to
work
through
this,
we
are
also
going
to
be
sort
of
leading
and
convening
the
south
chattanooga
neighborhood
association,
along
with
some
community
groups,
to
work
on
a
community
benefits
agreement
that
can
be
beneficial
for
the
community.
G
G
Do
have
a
legal
relationship
with
perimeter,
and
so,
as
we
you
know,
and
so
as
we
as
we
continue
to
work
through
this,
you
know
they
were
obviously
going
to
make
that
land
available
to
us.
That
is
not
an
insignificant
amount
of
land,
with
an
insignificant
value
and.
G
F
G
Yes,
and
we
actually
anticipate
that
there
will
be
other
investments
that
haven't
been
really
sort
of
talked
about
as
much
throughout
the
tif
district,
and
so
we
anticipate
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
significant
amount
of
investment.
That's
going
to
happen.
A
D
Just
I
want
to
add
just
a
couple
of
things
to
what
jermaine's
saying-
and
I
I
understand
the
the
question
and
the
purpose
of
wanting
to
protect
the
city
as
much
as
possible.
First
thing
I
would
say,
is
that
the
the
value
of
the
land
that's
being
donated,
which
becomes
public
land
in
perpetuity,
is
three
times
more
valuable
than
all
the
clawbacks
in
the
north
river
tiff.
So
I
mean.
D
I
try
to
look
at
things,
as
you
know,
compare
and
contrast
as
much
as
possible.
Also
the
other
thing
I'll
say
is:
let's
say
so:
we
have
the
land.
We
build
a
state,
we
issue
bonds,
we
build
a
stadium.
Baseball
will
be
played
there.
Regardless
of
what
happens
around
the
stadium.
D
We
will
get
a
million
dollar
lease
payment,
we'll
get.
We
budgeted,
600
000
sales
taxes,
which
is
extremely
conservative,
it'll,
be
closer
to
750
000,
we'll
get
parking
revenue,
which
is
the
most
conservative
thing.
We
budgeted
it's
almost
silly
how
low
we
budgeted
that
will
be
higher
than
the
200
000
that
we
we
budgeted
per
year.
We
will
have
there
are
projects
already
active
in
the
tif
area
that
will
generate
increment
right
away
for
the
for
the
tiff.
D
It's
not
the
development
right
around
the
stadium,
but
in
the
tiff
area
there
is
stuff,
that's
started,
but
hasn't
come
online.
Yet
that
will
generate
increment
worst
case
scenario.
D
If
we
have
zero
development
around
the
stadium,
we're
talking
about
around
800
000
each
for
the
city
and
county
to
cover
debt
service
and
and
which,
by
the
way,
is
like
0.4
percent
of
our
budget,
like
0.4
of
our
annual
budget,
but
the
other
thing
is:
if
we
have
zero
development
happening
around
the
stadium,
then
we
I'm
just
going
to
say
we
have
much
bigger
problems
in
the
entire
city.
If
we
have
zero
development
happening,
I
mean
that
to
me.
Is
that
means
catastrophic.
D
You
know
we
are
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
dig
out
of
the
worst
depression
that
we've
ever
seen
in
city
history.
So
well,
I
do
understand
the
question,
but
I
I
really
believe
that
the
value
you
know
we
are
getting
a
land
donation
that
is
significant,
that
the
if
the
development
doesn't
happen,
they
don't
get
that
back
and
it's
worth
15
million.
You
know
call
even
if
it's
worth
10
million
dollars,
that's
more
than
the
whole
tif
that
we
are
providing
increment
on
at
north
river.
D
So
and
those
are
the
same
size
tips
in
terms
of
geographic
areas.
So
that's
why
I
compare
them.
I
just
think
the
the
possibility
of
what
we
have
at
south
broad
is
just
so
much
greater
than
than
what
we
have
in
north
river.
I
know
they're
totally
different
purposes,
but
when
we
think
about
like
what
we're
providing
to
people
and
what
we're
we're,
including
as
a
clawback,
it
seems
like
we're
getting
a
valuable
clawback
built
into
this,
because
we're
getting
public
land
and
perpetuity.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
henderson,
any
other
questions
regarding
let's
just
go
back
a
little
bit
under
economic
development.
Pretty
much.
I
think
the
core
of
our
discussion
we
anticipated
today
was
going
to
be
items
b
through
h,
you'll,
take
a
look
at
those
council,
and
I
know
that
we've
had
full
educational
sessions-
and
this
is
probably
conversation
number
five,
six
yes,
but
these
items
have
finally
made
it
to
our
agenda
germain.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
ample
opportunity
for
any
council
member
to
ask
questions
while
they're
on
our
agenda.
A
G
That
was
obviously
donated
to
the
river
city
company
many
many
years
ago.
And
then
the
river
city
company
conveyed
that
land
over
to
the
creation
of
a
newly
created
city
of
chattanooga
sports
authority.
That
city
of
chattanooga
sports
authority
was
primarily
created
for
the
purpose
of
helping
to
sort
of
facilitate
the
construction
of
a
t
field
when
the
lookouts
at
that
point
in
time
were
looking
for
a
new
stadium
when
they
left
ingles
stadium.
G
And
so
that's
how
this
the
city
of
chattanooga
sports
authority
was
sort
of
came,
came
into
existence
fast
forward
to
today.
You
have
a
situation
where
both
the
city
and
the
county
are
contributing
to
a
tiff
for
a
public
stadium
and
because
of
the
county's
participation
in
the
tiff.
It
is
only
fair
to
have
a
new
sort
of
jointly
jointly
formed
sports
authority
that
has
both
representation
selected
by
the
county,
as
well
as
representation
selected
by
the
city
right
and
so
that's
why
you
have
to
have
the
new
joint
sports
authority.
G
G
Right
on
cue,
so
but
yes,
the
the
current
sports
authority
will
continue
to
be
needed
for
at
least
another
three
years,
and
the
reason
that
we
have
that
three
year
time
span
is
because,
let's
say
a
best
case
scenario.
G
We
get
all
of
our
approvals
through
to
approve
the
tif
district,
and
then
the
new
sports
authority
is
formed
and
then,
let's
just
say,
ambitiously,
construction
is
able
to
start
within
by
the
end
of
the
year,
which
is
ambitious.
It's
still
going
to
be
a
minimum
18
to
24
months
for
construction
to
be
completed
so
you're
you're,
the
earliest
that
the
the
team
could
be
looking
at
moving
into
a
new
stadium
would
be
for
the
2025
baseball
season.
G
So
you
you
got
to
have
a
place
for
them
to
play
for
the
next
three
years.
Essentially,
and
so
you
need
the
current
city
of
chattanooga
sports
authority
to
continue
to
manage
atnt
field
during
that
time
period.
G
J
Hey
jermaine
give
the
the
the
existing
sports
authority,
the
courtesy
of
letting
them
know
that
and
why
that
was
a
great
explanation.
Yes,.
G
We've
we've
explained
it.
I
also
in
attendance,
was
emily
mack
from
the
river
city
company
to
kind
of
understand
the
dynamic
and
the
the
relationship
between
and
the
part
that
the
rivers.
A
You
good
dr
burrs
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
question
jermaine.
I
am
seeing
no
other
lights
on
items
d
through
h,
so
if
not,
I
will
ask
council
to
continue
to
look
at
the
rest
of
your
august
9th
agenda
and
hit
your
light.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
any
particular
items
on
august
9th
we'll
take
this
opportunity
to
go
back
to
tonight's
agenda
ordinances
under
under
first
reading.
This
is
a
planning
case
we
had
heard
before
in
my
district.
A
There
is
one
amendment
that
we
will
I
will
ask
to
be
made,
and
that
is
from
a
six
foot
fence
to
a
seven
foot
fence
and
that
seems
to
have
quelled
and
addressed
the
concerns
as
I
did
meet
with
residents
on
a
wonderfully
hot
sunday
afternoon,
and
I
was
we
worked
that
out
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
amendment,
so
we
should,
I
think,
asked
for
that
to
be
made
this
evening.
So
no
other
questions
on
august,
9th
councilman
hester
see
your
light
in
there.
A
E
A
C
Yes
for
item
eight
a
can.
We
get
more
information
on
that
particular
request.
I
know
it's
a
great
thing,
but
could
we
just
get
a
little
bit
more
information
on
that
particular
requests
from
fire.
I
Yes,
I
am
going
to
defer
to
the
fire
department
on
this.
If
seth
wouldn't
mind
coming
up
and
chatting
about
it,.
H
No,
this
is
this
is
a
huge
step
in
the
right
direction.
We've
actually
with
with
your
approval,
and
your
support
of
the
last
few
years,
have
been
squirreling
money
away
to
start
a
planning
process,
and
we've
done
that
last
three
capital
years
in.
H
But
we're
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
of
the
planning
phase,
and
this
is
a
great
shot
in
the
arm
for
our
partners
from
our
partners
from
the
county.
We
support
all
the
local
fire
departments
for
all
the
great
work
they
do
in
our
community.
H
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
I'm
excited
about
it
too,
and
I
know
many
of
my
colleagues
have
done
fire
ops,
so
we
know
the
definite
need
for
this,
so
we
are
so
excited
for
you
guys
and
I
I
like
asking
about
the
fun
stuff.
So
this.
A
We're
very
excited
to
see
that
I
know
it's
been
discussed
a
lot
of
times,
training
saves
lives
and
I
think
that's
an
investment.
We
can
all
agree
on
housewomen
hill.
K
Thank
you.
I
actually
had
a
question
on
that
item
as
well,
but
it's
more
a
procedural
clarity
question.
So
we
have
this
essentially
on
our
agenda
for
the
ninth
and
now
it's
listed
on
future
considerations
for
the
16th.
I
I
think
this
is
a
bit
of
an
error,
because
there
was
a
there
was
some
confusion
about
when
it
landed
on
future
consideration.
I
defer
to
this
council
as
to
whether
or
not
you
prefer
it
on
the
16th
or
the
9th,
but
it
is
currently
on
the
two-week
agenda,
so
it
is
currently.
I
K
K
L
K
I
No,
if,
if
this
council
is
okay
with
proceeding
with
this
measure,
with
this
with
voting
on
this
on
the
ninth,
then
we
will
have
the
the
future
considerations.
Document
is
a
planning
document
and
it
it
does
try
to
give
council
members
a
three
week.
Look
ahead.
There
was
essentially
a
a
mix-up
and
and
when
it
was
supposed
to
go
to
you,
but
if
you
are
comfortable
voting
on
this
on
the
ninth,
then
I
think
we
can
take
this
off
of
obviously
future
considerations.
Okay,.
I
A
I
We
would
prefer
to
expand
the
caption
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
clarity
there,
so
I
can,
if,
with
your
permission
chairman,
we
would
just
go
ahead
and
adjust
it.
Please
do.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
K
K
Thank
you
all
right,
so
in
keeping
with
our
new
routine
for
how
we're
doing
planning
and
zoning
we
have
provided
everyone
with
a
list
of
the
planning
and
zoning
cases
that
came
before
the
planning
commission,
along
with
information
about
whether
or
not
there
was
opposition
and
karen
is
prepared
to
present
to
us
a
handful
of
cases
to
begin
with
that
that
did
have
opposition
at
planning.
Commission,
karen
there's
one
see
where's
our
case.
That
is
gonna,
be
one
six
nine
count
yeah
one
zero
one,
six!
Nine!
K
J
I've
met
with
the
neighborhood
and
everything's
cool,
so
we're
good.
I
well
jenny.
Excuse
me
come
on.
No,
I
did
have
one
question
and-
and
that
is
the
neighborhood's
fine,
but
I
noticed
that
you
all
said
deny
and
I
believe
it
was
because
of
an
old
plan.
K
K
Okay,
we're
looking
good,
but
you
can
certainly
let
me
know
as
we
move
into
the
meeting.
Also
we
have
a
handful
of
items
today
that
are
amendments
to
our
zoning
ordinances.
So
we'll
take
a
look
at
those
and
a
planning
resolution
and
we
also
are
going
to
get
a
sneak
peek
into
the
area
11
plan,
so
we'll
let
karen
take
it
away.
Okay,.
N
N
N
N
Sorry,
I
thought
we
were
doing
that
before
11.,
so
just
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up
that
on
our
planning
and
zoning
committee
each
month
for
the
rest
of
the
year
and
probably
for
some
time
going
forward,
we
will
absolutely
be
presenting
the
zoning
cases
each
month,
as
karen
does
an
amazing
job
and
and
other
our
other
staff,
brian
schultz
and
others
who
participate
in
developing
the
recommendations
and
working
with
the
planning
commission.
N
I'm
very
thankful
to
have
karen
representatives
representing
us
every
month,
but
we
did
kick
off
the
zoning
ordinance
update
this
month
with
our
consultant
camaros.
We
have
had
one
public
meeting.
N
We
will
have
other
public
meetings,
many
over
the
coming
months
with
stakeholders
and
and
have
some
in
the
evening,
but
I
did
want
to
announce
that
that
we've
officially
kicked
it
off
and
karen
will
be,
and
I
will
be
giving
updates
every
month
on
the
progress
we
also,
as
you
know,
have
two
rfps
that
are
on
being
advertised
for
for
planning
teams
that
are
going
to
help
us
consultants.
N
That'll
help
us
start
working
on
updating
the
city's
area
plans
and
then
we
even,
for
example,
have
a
some
work
that
brian
schultz
has
been
doing
on
looking
at
all
the
duplexes
in
the
city
and
all
the
issues
and
ways
to
resolve
some
of
those
questions.
So
I
want
to
just
tonight
is
going
to
be
kind
of
the
start
of
that
karen's
going
to
give
us
we'll
go
through
the
zoning
code
changes
and
then
eric
will
cover
area
11.
N
But
I
just
want
y'all
to
expect
every
month
we're
going
to
be
giving
you
some
additional
items
on,
because
it's
just
important
for
you
to
keep
up
to
speed
with
what
we're
doing.
I'm
also
in
the
next
week
going
to
send
you
kind
of
a
six
month.
Half
half
year
update
on
a
lot
of
other,
so
you'll
sort
of
have
a
big
picture
of
everything.
That's
happening
in
our
department,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
have
that
before
we
got
too
deep
into
the
other.
M
And
ask
our
I.t
partner
to
bring
up
the
other
presentation.
I
think
I've
confused
him.
We
have
eight
zoning
cases.
We
have
the
one
that
was
requested
for
withdrawal.
We
also
have
one
which
is
d
on
your
agenda
case
2022.0162
it's
for
a
townhouse
development
on
hicks
and
pike,
the
applicant's
requesting
a
month.
Deferral
so
just
want
to
bring
that
up
that
there's
another
one
that
had
requested
action,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
while
that's
being
pulled
up.
M
So
all
the
zoning
cases
come
with
some
recommendation
of
approval
from
planning,
commission
and
then
we'll
kind
of
batch
process,
the
ordinance
amendment
and
go
through
the
resolution.
I
am
going
to
cover
case
2022-0149.
M
If
this
is
the
rezoning
for
judd
road.
This
case
did
not
have
opposition
at
planning.
Commission.
We
have
a
slightly
different
schedule
for
this
and
we
also
received
some
additional
information
from
a
partner
after
planning
commission.
So
this
is
the
request.
Rezoned
60
acres
on
judd
road
from
m1
to
c3,
with
conditions
for
mixed
use
development,
and
we
should
have
one
in
there.
That's
got
the
gray.
That
starts
with
a
gray
slide.
M
Oh,
I'm
sorry
you're
already
there
no
you're
right,
I
apologize.
Thank
you.
So
this
case
is
dependent
on
the
c3
amendment,
which
is
item
6j
in
your
agenda.
It's
one
of
the
ordinance
amendments
that
we'll
touch
on.
After
the
cases
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
re-zone
to
c3,
not
the
c3
that
we
have
now,
but
the
c3
that
is
going
to
go
into
effect.
M
If
you
approve
the
c3
amendment,
so
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
applicant
is
getting
that
c3
we're
asking
to
stagger
the
cases,
so
we've
been
talking
about
the
amendments
that
are
on
the
agenda
for
several
months
now
we
did
have
the
applicant
that
had
been
heading
the
for
a
requesting
the
c3.
So
this
was
the
timing
that
we've
come
up
with
to
make
that
a
happen
and
have
the
c3
amendment
read.
So
this
would
be.
This
is
on
your
agenda.
M
For
next
week,
we
as
staff
and
working
with
the
city
attorney
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
right
step
and
we've
communicated
this
to
the
applicant.
We
are
requesting
that
council
defer
next
week
defer
this
for
one
week.
M
So
really
we
want
the
c3
amendment
going
through
and
this
will
be
following
by
one
week
behind
it,
and
so
I
would
just
request
that
we
keep
that
kind
of
one
week
behind
and
I'll
go
through
a
couple
other
points
on
this,
but
otherwise
are
there
any
questions
about
the
scheduling
and
I'll
cover
the
c3
amendment
to
be
clear
at
that
time,
and
so
another,
as
I
mentioned,
we
had
some
additional
information.
M
M
They
had
heard
about
this
case
or
saw
the
case
at
in
the
newspaper
and
ask
for
a
meeting
with
us
and
our
city
partners,
and
so
let
me
make
sure
I
get
to
the
right
slide
here
and
since
we
received
this
information
after
planning
commission,
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
conveyed
it
to
you
and
then
also
we
are.
M
We
as
staff
are
recommending
an
additional
condition
to
address
what
we've
heard,
and
so
I'm
going
to
read
what
kind
of
my
notes
show
that
we
got
out
of
that
norfolk
southern
meeting.
So
these
are
my
own
words.
I'm
trying
to
summarize
the
discussion.
I
heard
that
norfolk
southern
conveyed
that
there
are
approximately
six
train
trips
back
and
forth
across
judd
road
a
week.
Additionally,
activity
can
occur
at
all
hours.
M
This
activity
can
include
train
horns
all
through
the
day
and
night,
depending
on
service
schedules,
road,
blockages,
banging
and
clanging
of
rail
cars
and
squealing
of
train
brakes
in
addition
to
crossing
maintenance
on
judd
road.
In
addition,
they
reminded
staff
that
improvements
will
need
to
be
made
by
the
applicant
on
judd
road
at
the
current
crossing
and
staff's
understanding
that
the
needed
improvements
will
be
guided
by
tdot's
railroad
grade
crossing
standards.
M
So
this
is
kind
of
a
summary
of
all
that
discussion
and
so
rpa
is
recommending
an
additional
condition,
which
is
that
the
city
and
the
developer
will
explore
an
additional
access
point
to
amnicola
highway,
and
we
did
convey
this
information.
The
applicant
had
been
working
with
norfolk,
southern
or
communicating
with
them
for
the
past
year,
and
but
they
are
aware
that
we
are
recommending
this
additional
condition.
M
Yes,
it
is
a
large
60-acre
development
and
I
will
it
is
in
a
manufacturing
area,
they're
rezoning,
part
of
the
site,
the
area
along
the
river
is
slated
to
remain
m1.
M
There
is
no
c3
zone
property
near
the
site.
There's
a
small
c2
piece
south
of
there
and
the
nearest
residential
zone
property
is
about
a
little
over
a
mile
and
a
half
way
away.
The
applicant
provided
a
site
plan
which
is
kind
of
showing
where
uses
are
occurring.
M
The
red
use
is
the
commercial
residential.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
see
the
color.
Excuse
me,
the
green
use,
which
is
a
is
the
commercial
residential
b,
is
residential
only
and
that's
kind
of
to
the
interior
of
the
development
and
that's
ringed
by
these
uses
of
commercial
and
residential
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
difference
between
the
a
commercial
residential
uses
and
the
sea
commercial
residential
uses.
M
The
there
is
a
substantial
number
of
conditions
the
applicant
provided.
Those
have
been
combined
with
the
c3
standard
conditions.
We
did
not
have
opposition
president
planning,
commission
and
planning
commission
at
the
second
reading
on
this
found
that
the
request
isn't
compatible
with
the
area.
3
historic
river
to
ridge,
plan
development
form
and
adjacent
land
uses.
However,
based
on
recent
rezoning
trends,
as
some
of
those
industrial
uses
are
transitioning
to
residential.
M
They
found
it's
appropriate
at
this
location
for
this
zoning
and
they're
recommending
approval
with
conditions
and
the
conditions
are
multiple
pages,
isn't
the
ordinance,
and
so
it's
the
combination
again
of
those
that
are
the
standard,
c3
conditions,
those
provided
by
the
applicant
and
then
we
had
quite
a
few
conditions,
worked
out
through
the
process
and
meeting
with
the
applicant
and
the
planning
commission
hearing.
So
they
address
everything
from
uses
street
setbacks,
height
building
standards,
parking
access,
landscape
and
buffering
standards.
M
So
I
can
go
into
detail
on
those,
but
we
did
work
through
those
at
planning.
Commission
planning
commission
asked
us
at
the
july
hearing,
prior
to
the
july
hearing
to
sit
down
staff
in
the
applicant
sit
down
go
through
all
the
conditions
make
sure
there
was
alignment
and
those
were
presented
at
planning.
Commission.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
Miss
chair.
I
have
spoke
with
the
applicant
just
briefly
three
or
four
times,
but
what
I
would
like
to
do
and
we
need
if
we
can
set
up-
and
they
have
reached
out
to
me
several
times
on
this-
is
to
actually
go
to
the
site
itself.
M
M
And
sometime
in
the
next
two
weeks
prior
to
the
hearing.
M
O
M
Yes,
there's
quite
a
few
slides
here
due
to
all
the
conditions,
so
the
judd
road
property
for
the
rezoning
is
highlighted
in
the
yellow.
You
see
the
railroad
track
kind
of
hugging,
the
southern
property
line
and
at
the
orange
arrow
there,
that
is
where
there's
an
at-grade
crossing
with
judd
road
and
judd
road
comes
out
at
the
green
arrow
onto
amnicola.
M
Excuse
me,
the
green
star
onto
amnicola,
so
that's
kind
of
the
that
is
where
norfolk
southern
was
giving
us
generally
information
about
kind
of
how
they
operated
in
the
city,
but
more
specifically
about
that
that
location
and
activity
to
the
industrial
users
south
of
this
site,
so
that
spurs
serving
industrial
users.
South
of
this
of
the
jet
road
site
and.
M
There
is,
I
believe,
another
one
that
goes
into
the
property
just
to
the
north,
but
I
don't
remem.
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
that
development.
O
M
We
have
talked
about
several
I'll,
let
dan
speak
so.
N
If
you
look
on
the
map
there
actually
is
that
it
says
14th
avenue.
We
hope
that
was
public.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
public
right
of
way,
but
I
think
what,
in
speaking
with
the
developer,
we
just
want
to
investigate
a
number
of
ways.
It
would
have
to
be
with
the
adjoining
property
owners
and
with
public
works
and
on
tdot
to
just
see
if
there
is
any
other
way
to
get
because
the
the
spur
goes
south.
You
know
right
where
the
star
is
anywhere
north
of
there.
N
If
we
could
find
another
way
of
getting
it
getting
access
would
be
preferable.
This
is
a
great
site.
I
mean
it's
at
the
corner
of
amacolola
south
excuse
me
creek
and
the
river,
and
you
know
expected
to
have
many
hundred
units
and
it's
just
as
a
valuable
piece
of
property.
We
really
think
it
would
be
well
served
long-term
to
have
just
another
really
good
point
of
accident.
O
A
A
K
I
have
a
question
is
jermaine
still
here.
I
believe
he
stepped
out
okay.
So,
as
I
looked
at
this
project,
something
that
occurred
to
me
is
how
often
charles
wood
comes
and
talks
to
us
about
how
we
need
more
industrial
space
in
chattanooga
that
that
has
oh,
hey
jermaine.
Did
you
hear
me
say
your
name.
K
Oh
okay,
that
was
fast
so
jermaine
we're
looking
at
this
at
this
planning
case,
and
it
feels
like
I
mean.
Obviously,
it's
beautiful
riverfront
access,
but
it
is
an
industrial
site
in
an
industrial
location
and
something
that
occurred
to
me,
as
I
studied
this
case
was
hearing
charles
woods
voice
in
my
head
saying
we
need
more
industrial
locations
in
chattanooga
for
economic
development,
and
so
you
know
we
have
one
that
we're
talking
about
residential
issues
that
will
be
caused,
because
this
is
in
a
manufacturing
area.
K
So
do
you
know
anything
about
this
project?
If
not,
I
would
love
for
you
just
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
give
us
your
your
feelings
about
that.
For,
for
all
of
us
for
consideration.
G
I
only
know
a
high
level
about
what
sort
of
his
plan
here
in
terms
of
I
think
this
is
mixed,
use
development
plan
here;
yes,
but
if,
if
it
would
be
okay
with
the
council,
if
charles
and
I
could
take
a
look
at
this
and
and
get
us
your
and
we
can
get
you
our
thoughts,
I.
K
Would
appreciate
that?
Thank
you
very
much.
You
know
once
it's
once
it's
not
industrial
anymore.
It
won't
be
right.
M
K
M
Since
we
don't
need
to
cover
the
stanford
gap
road
case
and
the
other
case
that
we
had
opposition
on
has
been
requested
for
the
for
withdrawal.
I
will
skip
then
to
the
ordinance
amendments.
M
And
we
have
the
four
ordinance
amendments
and
they
are
all
related
to
the
same
items.
So
it's
going
to
give
you
kind
of
an
overview
and
then
touch
on
each
of
them
briefly,
and
then
we
can
go
into
more
detail
if
you'd
like,
as
you
know,
we
have
zoning
powers.
It's
granted
to
us
through
the
tennessee
code.
M
Tca
does
not
provide
powers
to
planning
commissions
to
grant
variances
or
deviations.
Deviations
are
another
word
for
variances
and
the
power
to
grant
variances
from
the
zoning
ordinance
is
granted
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
M
There
are
currently
in
our
code.
We
have
several
tools
and
zones
that
use
the
deviation
process
so
again,
regardless
of
what
we
call
them,
they're,
probably
deemed
variances
under
state
law.
So
the
amendments
are
intended
to
line
the
zoning
ordinance
with
state
law
some
of
these
chain.
Some
of
these
have
been
in
the
zoning
ordinance
for
over
a
decade
and
we're
making
the
changes
now,
so
we
don't
receive
further
applications
for
deviations
or
variances
we've
identified
that
we
have
something
that
conflicts
with
state
law
and
we're.
This
is
addressing
that
situation.
M
We
do
know.
These
are
probably
been
put
in
place
over
time
to
allow
some
flexibility,
so
the
zoning
code
update
will
be
used
to
identify
where
we
can
have
flexibility
within
the
bounds
of
state
law.
So
we've
just
been
getting
prepared
for
the
zoning
code
update
and
as
part
of
that
noticed
after
doing
a
deep
dive
that
we
probably
had
a
conflict
and
reached
out
to
the
city
attorney's
office
and
then
some
additional
state
partners.
So
we
do
have
a
batch.
M
M
Why
are
we
doing
this?
What's
the
impact?
Where
do
we
have
cases
that
are
in
the
process,
like
the
judd
road
case,
making
sure
we
underwear
communicating
and
staging
what
would
every
zoning
that's
appropriate?
Look
like
so
I'll
go
through
the
four
items.
Briefly,
unless
you'd
like
a
little
bit
more
detail,
6i
is
related
to
infill,
lock
compatibility.
M
M
M
We
amended
that
rtz,
maybe
two
years
ago
to
be
the
tool
to
have
more
appropriate
urban
infill
development.
So
and
obviously
we
see
a
lot
of
use
of
that
rtz
in
our
urban
area,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
them.
Unless
you'd
like
to
speak
about
more
details,
the
second
one
is
the
c3
central
business.
Excuse
me
central
business
zone.
M
Last
year
we
had
a
an
amendment
which
was
division
15a
for
c3
standards
for
properties
being
rezoned
after
that
point
in
time
last
year
that
was
heavily
built
on
the
deviations
process,
so
this
6j
will
remove
last
year's
amendment.
It
will
basically
remove
division.
15A,
we'll
still
have
c3.
That
c3
is
the
same.
C3
we've
had
for
a
long
time.
Most
of
the
downtown
was
zoned
c3
prior
to
form
based
code,
that
c3
zone
has
more
limited
standards
and
relies
heavily
on
use
of
conditions.
M
The
instead
of
deviations
conditions
which
are
allowed
by
use
by
council
would
be
the
way
to
to
address
development
in
that
zone.
M
The
second
one
address
excuse
me:
6k
addresses
the
urban
general
commercial
zone,
which
we
know
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
this
removes
the
amendment
here
removes
the
ability
of
planning
commission
to
provide
deviations
for
auto
oriented
uses,
which
we
didn't
see
too
many
of
we
did
see
quite
a
few
requests
for
deviations
from
building
height
and
mass.
M
We
did
kind
of
assessment.
Of
what
building
height
are
people
asking
the
ugc
zone
was
four
stories.
Most
of
our
requests
were
to
five
stories,
so
this
amendment
just
allows
five
stories
in
the
urban
general
commercial
zone.
That
was
what
most
people
were
asking
for
as
a
deviation,
and
it
seemed
appropriate
to
to
mend
the
zone
to
allow
that
by
right.
M
So
the
if
you
were
re-zoned
ugc
prior
to
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance,
amendment
you're
capped
at
a
12
000
square
foot,
building
footprint,
otherwise
the
that
building
footprint
requirement
is
removed.
M
So
this
is
one
we
had
quite
a
few
folks
asking
about
understanding
how
this
would
work
and
then,
like
all
of
these,
the
normal
board
of
zoning
appeals
process
would
be
triggered.
M
M
This
deletes
that
maximum
building
height,
deviation
and
variances
would
go
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
and
then,
lastly,
lot
size
lot,
frontage
and
setbacks.
This
removes
deviation
process
for
standards
they're
in
the
subdivision.
Excuse
me
they're
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
but
we
were
using
the
subdivision
process
to
address
these,
so
you
do
have
some
possibilities
for
variances
in
the
subdivision
process,
but
anything
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
Really.
We
cannot
do
variances
by
planning
commission
or
they
really
need
to
be
going
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
M
So
anyone
who
needs
a
height
variance
would,
in
this
case
again
go
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
So
we
can
provide
more
specifics
on
those.
I
think
that
is
kind
of
the
overview
and
anything
that
is
planning
commissions
giving
approval
for
would
default
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals,
which
is
allowed
under
state
law.
J
Okay,
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
more
okay.
M
The
suburban,
because
these
are
mostly
being
done
through
the
subdivision
process.
You
would
not
see
these
so
you're,
probably
you
just
wouldn't
be
exposed
to
these
being
done.
There
would
be
handled
through.
So
this
is.
M
It's
mostly
handled
in
subdividing
property
and,
if
you're
in
the
suburban
area,
there's
this
complicated
calculation,
where
you're
looking
at
the
blocks
or
the
properties
on
either
side
and
trying
to
determine
based
on
those
lot
sizes
what
your
lot
size
would
be-
and
this
was
put
in-
I
don't
remember
when
jack
benson
was
in
office,
but
this
was
put
in
for
areas
where
we
had
someone
would
be
going
in
and
rezoning
or
subdividing
property
was
much
smaller
than
the
r1
property
nearby.
M
Now,
when
you
read
the
zone,
if
the
amendment
goes
through,
when
you
read
the
zoning
ordinance,
the
lot
size
in
the
in
the
zone
will
be
the
lot
size.
You
will
not
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
subdivision
this.
So
in
english.
Yes,.
J
Can
they
subdivide
it
for
a
product
that
doesn't
anywhere
look
like
the
neighborhood.
M
So
we
most,
I
believe,
saw
these
used
out
in
east
brainerd,
the
where
you
have
a
very
large
lots,
very
deep
lots
and
those
were
the
triggers
and
I
can
pull
where
we've
been
using
these,
but
in
that
case
most
inner,
suburban
lots
like
brainerd.
I
don't
think
would
be
big
enough
to
subdivide
and
trigger
this,
but.
M
J
M
Well-
and
we
can,
I
can
pull
the
one.
So
this
basically
says
if
your
r1
zone
says
7
500
square
feet,
you
have
to
look
in
outside
the
urban
overlay
and
you
need
to
identify
the
lot
sizes
around
you
to
see.
If
you
can
go
down
to
7
500
square
feet,
you
might
not
be
able
to
meet
that
minimum.
You
might
have
to
based
on
the
calculation
and,
what's
around
you
do
a
larger
lot.
M
Thank
you,
okay
and
then
urban
infill
was
the
same
except
it's
kind
of
the
reverse,
so
we
have
larger
lots
and
we
wanted
more
smaller
urban
infill
lots
and
that
was
kind
of
the
flip
side
of
trying
to
get
smaller
lots
allowed
by
looking
at
lots
of
record
on
either
side
yeah,
but
just
to
be
helpful,
we'll
pull
where
we've
had
the
suburban
infill
and
urban
infill
apostles.
I'm
really.
N
N
That
would
allow
the
planning
commission
to
make
some
of
these
decisions
and
going
forward
with
the
new
zoning
ordinance
we're
going
to
try
to
put
as
much
flexibility
in
the
new
zoning
ordinance
going
forward
this
year
so
to
address
anything
like
this,
hopefully
there'll
be
another
way
to
do
it.
Okay,.
A
M
It
does
so,
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
we
did
this
was
because
you
can
do
35
feet
and
then
set
back
and
go
up,
but
we
might
have
a
large
concrete
parking
lot,
but
it's
a
parcel
because
someone
has
bought
that
to
develop
a
hotel,
for
instance,
but
it's
part
of
a
larger
commercial
complex.
So
that
was
saying:
let's
look
at
going
up
as
a
deviation,
so
now
there
would
be.
You
would
be
able
to
set
back
and
go
up
at
some
point.
You
might
be
limited
at
that
point.
M
A
M
M
The
in
it
would
be
based
on
your
your
configuration
and
meeting
your
setbacks.
So
this
is
some
all
these
are
going
to
be
pushed
to
the
consultant
to
be
addressed
in
the
zoning
code
update
because
we
know
that
that's
a
situation
that
we
tried
to
develop
a
tool
for,
and
it's
been
used
to
believe
once,
if
not
twice
in
the
east
brainerd
area.
So
we
do
know
that
there
is
a
need
for
that.
A
Okay,
I'm
still
a
little
fuzzy
on
it
and
since
I
introduced
that
legislation
testified
before
boza
to
to
see
it
through
I'm
a
little.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
seeing
this
unwound
because
I
thought
it
was
a
very
useful
tool
as
we
look
to
redevelop
and
we
talk
about
going
vertical
quite
often
and
and
we
have
a
lot
of
redevelopment
to
do
in
east
brainerd
on
large
concreted
parking
lots.
M
Right-
and
I
think
yes,
I
think,
and
we
one
of
the
when
we
developed
this
tool,
we
also
talked
about
the
possible
set,
the
setback
being
possibly
or
height
being
related
to
the
larger
zone.
So
I
have
all
of
hamilton
placed
in
that
zone.
Perhaps
it's
related
to
that,
so
we
can
get
the
height,
so
we
will
just
have
to
find
another
tool
for
that
situation.
A
Okay,
keep
me
I'm
not
going
to
keep
us
much
longer
on
this.
This
is
part
of
an
overarching
redevelopment
plan
for
large
areas
of
concrete
stormwater
management.
The
whole
gamut
is
involved
in
when
I
did
that,
and
it
made
sense-
and
I
watched
what
was
built
and
very
successful.
N
D
N
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Karen,
can
you
go
back
to
I
I'm?
I
think
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understood.
Maybe
what
dan
just
said
might
have
cleared
it
up.
This
basically
just
keeps
it
from
going
to
rpa,
because
I'm,
I
guess
I'm
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
suburban
infield
lot
frontage
and
setback
like
that.
Just
gives
me
the
heebie
jeebies,
because
once
it
leaves
planning
commission,
we
don't
see
that
in
the
subdivision.
M
That's
correct
and
it's
been
in
the
subdivision,
it
would
think
about.
Oh
probably
10
years.
Excuse
me.
It's
been
in
the
zoning
ordinance
as
an
option.
I
would
think
about
10
years,
so
I
can
do
a
little
bit
of
a
summary
of
what
that
is
and
how
it's
been
used
and
send
that
out.
But,
yes,
you're
right,
you've
not
seen
that
it's
been
on
the
books.
I
think
the
urban
info
lock
compatibility
options
just
been
used.
M
More
often,
we
might
have
heard
that
and
that's
why
we
did
the
rtz
amendment
the
suburban
infill,
lot,
frontage
and
setback
option.
Brian
schultz,
our
staff
who
oversees
the
development
services
said
that
a
lot
of
times
it
just
gets
forgotten
in
the
process.
It's
such
an
outlier.
F
Well,
I
mean
I've
had
occasions
in
my
district
that
people
have
emailed
me
and
said:
hey
you
know,
can
you
check
on
this
because
they
do
the
infield
and
it's
not
compatible
with
what's
up
and
down
the
road,
and
this
one
concerns
me
a
little
bit
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
completely
understand
what
we're
about
about
ready
to
do
here.
So.
M
Okay,
we'll
I'll
do
a
summary,
show
how
we
do
the
math
and
then
we
can
pull.
I
hope
we,
we
pull
these
numbers
for
something
I
can
see
if
we
can
pull
the
numbers
for
how
often
and
where
that
has
been
used
and
show
some
examples,
just
screenshots
of
how
those
lots
end
up
looking
right,
because
this
has
been
going
on
and
just
so
you
understand
the
frequency
and
where
it's
being
used
so
we'll
do
that.
That.
K
M
And
the
resolution
is
addressing
a
change
to
state
law.
We
have
been
doing
staff
approved
final
plots
for
about
two
years
and
get
to
my
notes.
M
In
2020
tca
was
amended
to
that
gave
planning
commission
the
right
to
delegate
final
plot
approval
to
staff,
so
staff
has
been
able
to
prove
final
plots
of
two
lots
or
less
since
that
time.
So
the
past
two
years
planning
commission
delegated
the
right
to
staff.
Rpa
staff
have
been
approving
final
plots
of
lot
of
two
lots
or
less
since
that
time
subdivisions
a
recent
change.
M
A
state
law
change
requires
approval
from
the
municipal
legislative
body
that
is
subject
to
this
jurisdiction
of
the
regional
planning
commission,
and
you
can
do
five
lots
so
planning
commission.
Two
years
ago,
planning
commission
cadella
the
gate
authority
for
two
lot,
plaits
now
state
law
change.
Is
the
council
can
delegate
authority
to
the
regional
planning
agency
staff
to
approve
less
than
five
lots,
and
this
is
the
practice
we've
been
doing
for
several
years.
We
think
it
is
efficient.
It
moves
the
subdivision
process
along
and
allows
us
to
address
plats
quickly.
M
We
do
quite
a
few
staff
approved
plats
and
we
are
asking
and
planning
commission
is
recommending
that
you
delegate
the
authority
to
regional
planning
agency,
we're
going
to
county
commission
next
week
with
the
same
request,
and
we
have
reached
out
to
all
the
smaller
jurisdictions
that
we
partner
with
to
have
them,
make
sure
they're
aware
of
this
and
processing
it
also.
M
So
we're
been
kind
of
holding
off.
So
we
are
ready
to
move
forward
if
more
delegated
this
authority.
M
Sure
so,
if
I
have
a
larger
lot
and
want
to
create,
subdivide
and
create
three
lots,
they
all
meet
the
zoning
requirements.
I
go
through
the
subdivision
planning
process.
M
This
would
allow
me
this
would
allow
staff
to
approve
three
lots
or
four
lots,
so
the
so
before
it
was
two,
so
I
could
subdivide
my
lot
into
another
lot.
This
would
just
expands
that
number
and
I
don't
know
what
the
driver
was
at
the
state
level.
M
J
M
Doesn't
so
major
subdivisions
go
to
planning
commission
in
the
state
of
tennessee
subdivision
authority
is
given
to
planning
commissions,
so
that
is
why
city
council
or
county
commission
or
walden
or
signal
they
don't
see
and
those
legislative
bodies
do
not
see
plats
plotting
that
plotting
authority
is
given,
and
I
think
that's
why
in
2020
planning
commission
could
delegate
authority
because
it
is
a
planning
commission
process.
M
So,
and
I
don't
know
we
have
this
discussion
occasionally,
but
yes,
that
authority
is
given
to
regional
planning
commissions.
So
you
all
do
not
see
plats.
J
M
M
L
It's
pretty
much
as
simple
as
what
the
state
giveth.
The
state
has
taken
away
right
now,
and
they
allowed
the
planning
commissions
to
have
more
authority
previously
they've
now
taken
it
back
here
and
they're,
saying
that
no
more
than
five
lots
unless
you've
got
some
sort
of
preliminary
plan.
That
goes
all
the
way
through
the
process
can
be
done
by
subdivision,
but
they
are
allowing
that
no
more
than
five
lots.
J
M
We
provide
the
because.
M
When
you
get
the
regional
planning
agency
packet,
the
planning
commission
packet,
the
subdivisions
are
listed
in
the
front.
Those
are
more
than
major
subdivisions
or
variances,
not
just
one
or
two
lots.
So
that
is
one,
but
we
do
not
post
a
sign
just
that
this.
We
do
not
post
a
sign
for
major
subdivisions.
M
There
are
no,
they
are
listed
in
your
packet.
That's
probably
the
way
you
would
become
aware
of
them.
As
a
council
person.
C
M
J
J
H
N
J
Think
it's
notice
that
that
concerns
me.
I
can
see
several
of
the
neighborhoods
going,
what
how
did
this
happen
and-
and
so
I
guess-
maybe
I
don't
care
who
makes
the
decision,
but
the
bottom
line
is
there's
not
a
requirement
for
notice
or
hearing
or
anything.
M
We
do
for
the
major
we
have
had
this
discussion
just
in
the
years
that
I've
been
here
and
the
has
come
up
at
planning.
Commission
too,
I
think
that
one
of
the
changes
we
made
several
years
ago
was
to
do
a
complete
description
of
the
subdivision
in
the
legal
which
I
know
has
many
downfalls,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that-
and
I
will
kind
of
paraphrase
my
understanding
or
memory
of
the
discussion
at
planning
commission-
was
that
if
we
post
a
sign,
it
does
notify
people,
but
the
plating
process
is
much
more.
M
The
engineering
technical
sign
off
it
has
to
meet
the
zoning
that
council
has
passed
and
then
all
these
standards
and
requirements
of
the
subdivision
regulations,
and
if
it
does
that,
then
it
is
a
technical
sign
off.
It
is
a
little
bit
different
and
maybe
we
could
do
a
quick
education
like
the
difference
between
zoning
and
subdivision,
so
the
thought
of
okay,
we
can
notify
people,
but
then,
when
they
come
to
planning
commission
that
the
review
is
there
is
different
from
zoning.
Well,
I
don't.
J
E
N
Subdivision
regulations
right
now
we
will
be
bringing
the
planning
commission
in
the
next
couple
months
and
we
can
look
at
what
they
do
in
other
places
in
tennessee,
memphis
and
knoxville,
and
but
I'm
pretty
sure,
I'd
be
surprised
if
any
of
them
had
a
whole
lot
of
assigned
notifications
for
subdivisions.
But
they
might
look
at
it
for
sure.
M
And
our
discussion
has
just
been
it's
yeah,
we
understand
and
we're
I
think,
you're
in
agreement.
It
is
hard
if
you
have
people
come
to
planning,
commission
and
lots
of
public
feedback,
but
their
review
is
so
much
more
limited
on
that
it.
We.
How
do
you
we
want
to
hear
people
come
and
let
them
know
we're
notifying
them,
but
then
planning
commission
might
not
be
able
to
respond.
J
K
M
M
Oh
gosh,
one
of
the
your
comments
and
I've
lost
my
train
of
thought
on
that,
but
we
will
bring
that
up
and
then
gosh.
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
remember
my
other
thought
I'll
mention
that
if
I
think
about
it
later,
okay
and
then
we
have
the
area
11.
P
M
Okay,
eric
and
this
eric
mccravers
is
going
to
present
and
we
kind
of
have
two
versions
depending
on
time.
He's
got
a
summary
version.
That's
about
five
to
eight
minutes.
If
you
all
want
more
detail,
he's
got
about
10
minutes
after
that,
but
he's
prepared
kind
of
for
the
five
to
eight
minute
overview,
and
then
we
have
a
print
out
of
the
whole
presentation.
Just
so
we'll
provide
that
just
so
you
don't
miss
anything.
Okay,.
K
M
And
I
have
one
technical
slide
at
the
end,
because
we
have
a
request
to
tweak
the
map
in
the
plan.
So
I'll
just
come
up
after
eric's
wrapped
up
and
mention
that.
P
All
right,
good
evening
or
afternoon
or
evening,
it's
five
o'clock
counselors.
My
name
is
eric
mctravers,
I'm
with
the
community
planning
design
team
under
karen
hunt.
It's
a
division
of
rpa
and
I'm
here
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
easter
east
brainerd
area
plan.
As
recommended
for
adoption
by
planning
commission
in
july,
the
planned
adoption
boat
will
be
on
august
23rd
agenda
staff
also
has
draft
plan
documents
available
for
you
for
your
review.
P
We
can
bring
that
to
council
office
if
you,
if
you'd
like
and
before
I
begin,
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
chairman
ledford
for
his
support
throughout
the
planning
process.
He's
really
amplified
the
voices
of
the
community
and
make
sure
that
the
issues
that
were
vocalized
are
being
addressed
by
the
plan.
So
we
appreciate
your
enthusiasm
for
planning
and
your
support
during
the
process.
P
Okay,
so
this
east
brainerd
as
delineated
by
the
planned
document,
it's
about
11
square
miles,
roughly
20
000
people
live
here,
so
it's
east
of
I-75
and
south
chief
creek
to
the
southwest
north
of
georgia
state
line
and
then
goes
out
eastward
to
the
furthest
extent
of
the
city
county
city
boundaries.
Just
lost
my
slides
on
there.
P
Okay,
all
right
so
we'll
come
back
on
all
right
technical
difficulties,
but
you
all
can
see
it
right.
Okay,
we're
good
all
right.
So,
as
I
said,
yeah
20,
000
people,
roughly
11
square
miles
east
of
this
area
was
the
area
12
plan,
which
was
adopted
two
three
years
ago.
That's
uttawa
and
episode.
If
you
all
are
familiar
with
that.
One
and
of
course
includes
hamilton,
place,
mall
and
gun
barrel
area.
A
lot
of
long-standing
neighborhoods
have
been
there
for
many
decades.
P
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide
community
engagement,
so
we
sent
out
a
direct
mailer
to
all
property
owners
and
many
residents.
We
have
an
email
list
of
over
700
people
over
the
course
of
the
plan
effort
we
had
nearly
3
000
individual
responses
to
the
various
public
input
processes.
Surveys
whatnot,
which
I
think
was
a
pretty
good
accomplishment,
given
that
most
of
that
was
happening
during
cobit,
so
it
was
almost
entirely
online
process,
but
we
managed
to
squeeze
through
it
despite
those
hardships.
P
I'll
also
add
that
our
website
has
a
pretty
full
breakdown
of
the
public
engagement
process
includes
a
lot
of
other
resources
too,
like
a
detailed
existing
conditions
report
and
just
the
whole
plan
process
kind
of
from
start
to
finish
just
detailing
those
different
phases.
If
you'd
like
to
go
into
that
detail,
so
I'm
going
to
quickly
cover
what
we
heard
and
the
plan's
recommendations
to
address
those
concerns.
P
These
are
your
top
issues
from
constituents
in
that
area.
Number
one
issue
far
and
away
is
congestion
and
road
maintenance
transportation,
but
we
also
heard
things
about
a
desire
for
more
walkability
on
on
and
around
gun
barrel.
Road
people
wanted
to
see
kind
of
limiting
more
of
that
strip,
commercial
style
development
on
east
brainerd
road
and
then,
of
course,
housing.
People
are
concerned
about
preserving
their
single-family
neighborhoods,
not
seeing
much
change
on
that
front,
but
we
also
heard
counter
to
that
or
or
complementary
to
that
people
are
concerned
about
housing
choice
right.
P
We
are
facing
a
housing
crisis
and
addressing
affordability
and
housing
supply
and
then,
lastly,
on
natural
systems,
open
space
flooding
was
definitely
a
concern
that
we
heard
about,
especially
on
davidson
road
and
kind
of
balancing,
floodplain
development
and
then
also
more
active
green
spaces.
You
know,
heritage
park
is
definitely
a
jewel.
A
gem
for
for
that
area,
but
access
to
and
and
availability
of
active
green
spaces
was
a
concern
out
there.
P
So
real
quick,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
centers
and
corridors
approach.
This
is
a
sort
of
planning
framework
that
you
that
we're
using
now
for
area
plans
and
going
forward
for
future
area
plans.
It
has
three
kind
of
main
components.
I
guess
so.
The
first
one
is
walkable
clustered
centers.
We
want
to
focus
retail
and
concentrate
it
really
in
those
places
and
and
focus
our
capital
improvements
for
biking
and
walking
things
like
that
in
those
areas.
P
The
next
one
is
transit,
supportive
corridors
that
are
existing
and
planned
in
the
future,
if
that's
a
desire
for
for
council
or
for
residents
to
expand
transit
services,
and
we
want
to
diversify
the
types
of
uses
along
those
corridors,
not
just
for
retail,
but
you
know,
offices
and
multi-family
that
can
accommodate
more
of
that
housing
supply
and
then,
lastly,
sort
of
the
supportive
medium
and
higher
density
housing
around
the
centers
and
the
corridors
both.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
shotgun
approach
that
addresses
a
lot
of
those
issues
that
were
vocalized.
P
This
is
the
place
types
map.
This
is
our
future
land
use
map
framework
that
we
use
not
just
to
recommend
future
uses,
but
also
the
desired
development
form.
So
you
see
far
and
away
the
most
common
color
on
that
map
is
yellow.
That's
our
suburban
residential
place
type.
It's
roughly
analogous
to
the
r1
zone,
there's
some
accommodations
for
other
types
of
zones
if
they
meet
certain
kinds
of
criteria,
but
almost
you
know,
80
percent
of
this
area,
we're
saying,
sounds
good.
Keep
it
the
same.
Congestion
is
a
problem
over
here.
P
We
don't
want
to
grow
these
areas
too
much
given,
given
the
way
that
the
area
has
already
been
built
out.
So,
however,
there
are
opportunities
for
targeted
areas
for
growth
such
as
along
those
corridors
and
at
those
identified
centers,
and
I
believe
that
wraps
up
my
expedited
one,
my
expedited
briefing.
Oh,
I
have
one
more
point
to
add.
Planning
commission
also
asks
for
information
about
growth
projections,
such
as
how
much
residential
growth
could
be
accommodated
by
the
plan.
P
Our
modeling
shows
that
the
these
land
use
recommendations
can
easily
accommodate
future
growth
projected
out
to
2050..
So
and
now
I'm
finished
so
and,
as
I
said,
you
know,
I've
got
more
detail
if
we'd
like
to
go
into
that
to
address
some
of
those
other
identified
issues,
but
I'll
stop
there.
If
there's
any
questions,
okay,.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
eric
to
your
entire
team.
I
spoke
before
the
planning
commission
last
month
in
support
of
this
plan.
This
has
been
a
very
intensive
plan.
It
involved
quite
a
lot
of
different
neighborhoods
and
I
remember
putting
those
teams
together
and
getting
the
information
out,
but
what
you
all
had
done
and
we
worked
through
many
outlets
if
in
case,
when
we're
moving
forward
such
as
next
door,
not
one
of
my
favorite
platforms,
but
it's
very
effective
in
getting.
A
Out,
if
you
need
to
get
like
survey,
I
can
hit
3
500
residents
like
instantly,
so
it
did
it
didn't
that's
why
you
saw
the
numbers
relatively
impressive,
with
with
the
with
the
input.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
to
your
team,
because
you
allowed
me
to
come
in
in
the
very
beginning,
and
we
sat
for
hours
at
that
map
up
on
in
the
drc,
and
I
really
feel
like
you,
listened
there's
a
lot
of
r1
componentry
and
there's
a
lot
of
r1
focus.
A
K
Well,
it
looks
like
eric
that
our
bottoms
can
only
tolerate
as
much
as
as
we
can.
So
I
think
that
we
don't
have
any
more
questions.
I
I
think
that
I
am
not
alone
when
I
say
I'm
ready
for
some
area
plans
in
district
2.,
and
I
see
some
nods.
I
think
we're
all
excited
about
the
planning
work.
That's
coming
dan.
Thank
you.
Karen.
We
appreciate
your
thoroughness.
It
looks
like
you
have
something
to
add.
M
I
do
if
this
is
the
less
fun
part
of
this.
The
map
that
you're
seeing
now
is
very
similar
to
the
map
in
the
plan.
It's
kind
of
a
smaller
eight
and
a
half
by
11,
and
we
as
staff
are
just
requesting
for
greater
readability
to
replace
the
planning
commission
recommended
document.
The
map
in
that
plan,
with
11
by
17
there'll,
be
no
content
change,
but
what
you
as
council
adopt
is
what
we
use.
M
As
the
you
know,
our
adopted
policy
and
having
a
larger
map
to
communicate
would
be
helpful
and
we
just
didn't
catch
that
at
planning
commission.
So
we
would
just
have
that
with
parcels
and
just
slightly
bigger,
just
okay,
as
a
technicality
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
substitute
one
map
for
the
other,
okay,
nicole.