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A
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
our
April
10th
agenda
session.
I
have
some
good
news,
I
believe
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we've
read
everything
already
into
the
record
on
here
or
have
we
well?
We
got
a
final
reading
about
a
and
B
I
know:
we've
read
those
already
the
first
readings
I
think
we
read
and
did
we
talked
about
a
already
somewhere
or
do
we
need
to
read
it.
B
A
C
A
D
D
This
the
item
we
discussed
earlier,
where
the
amount
was
changing,
that's
correctly
was-
is
that
correct,
okay,
but
I
asked
earlier
if
this
needed
to
be
done
by
motion
and
amending
what
was
currently
there.
Are
we
okay
changing
it
as
it
is
on
here,
or
should
it
or
remain
original
and
make
an
amendment
no.
D
A
C
An
ordinance
to
amend
Chattanooga
city
code,
part
2,
chapter
38,
zoning
ordinance
so
as
to
rezone
property
located
in
the
700
800
blocks,
a
Franklin
Street
and
two
unopened
streets.
More
particularly
described
hearing
from
are
in
residential
zone
to
our
TZ
residential
town
house.
You're,
a
lot
line
a
zone
all.
A
A
A
F
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman
council
members,
we
were
always
excited
to
come
to
you
and
update
you
on
some
things
that
public
works
are
doing.
We
get
to
do
that
a
lot
of
times
during
the
agenda
sessions
but
in
during
our
committee,
but
we'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
get
into
projects
or
successes
that
the
department
experiences
throughout
the
year.
F
For
you
all
what
we've
been
doing
and
kind
of
the
next
steps
to
to
the
project
and,
ultimately,
how
this
affects,
how
we
service
and
serve
the
public
in
the
permit
that
the
city
maintains
and
other
aspects
that
are
not
necessarily
related
to
the
permit
but
affect
how
residents
are
able
to
live
their
lives
in
Chattanooga.
So
I
want
to
introduce
bill,
Payne
city
engineer
and
his
team,
along
with
our
consultant
from
HDR.
F
G
You
good
afternoon
the
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
our
guests.
We
got
several
of
our
water
quality
staff
here,
both
our
management
and
our
project
management
staff,
as
well
as
someone
here
from
HDR,
so
we're
gonna
go
through
this
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know,
as
we
get
started,
we're
not
here
today
to
talk
about
numbers,
we're
not
here
to
talk
about
what
those
necessarily
what
those
rates
are
now
what
they're
gonna
be
that
sort
of
thing.
G
So
this
is
just
to
let
you
all
know
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
and
what
we're
doing
and
have
been
doing
over
the
last
year,
because
this
this
is
a
contract
that
that
started
roughly
a
year
ago.
So
this
is,
we
know
that
some
of
the
council
members
are
new
to
the
council.
Since
the
time
this
contract
was
was
voted
on
and
started,
and
so
because
of
that
we
felt
like
this
was
an
appropriate
time
to
let
you
all
know
what
work
has
been
done
and
what
the
next
steps
are
going
forward.
G
So
under
city
code,
the
stormwater
regulations
board
and
is
established
under
chapter
31.
They've
got
several
responsibilities
that
were
established
by
that
particular
code.
There
are
two
of
them
that
I've
highlighted
here,
for
you
one
is
that
the
Border's
has
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
make
recommendations
to
both
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
to
assure
that
the
rates
are
fair
and
adequate
in
order
to
fund
the
stormwater
program.
There
also
are
have
a
responsibility
to
review
and
provide
constructive
comments
to
our
staff
relative
to
developing
and
implementing
a
level
of
service.
G
G
Many
of
their
members
are
new
as
well
since
the
last
time
that
we
went
through
one
of
these
I'll
talk
about
the
history
in
just
a
second,
so
we've
also
briefed
them
on
some
of
the
education,
but
we've
not
yet
presented
anything
in
terms
of
rights
to
the
board.
Yet,
but
that's
that's
what
their
role
will
be?
Moving
forward.
G
G
The
later
later
on,
the
name
was
changed
to
a
water
quality
fee,
but
all
of
that
it's
all
has
its
basis.
In
some
state
codes
started
in
93,
beginning
in
2003.
We
knew
that
we
were.
We
were
not
in
compliance
with
all
the
pieces
that
we
needed
at
that
point
in
time,
and
so
in
order
to
help
us
move
forward
in
terms
of
the
things
that
we
needed
we
had
gone
through.
G
G
We
then
went
on
after
that
and
actually
went
through
a
level
of
service
cost
of
service
study
ten
years
ago.
Much
like
what
we're
talking
about
now,
so
this
just
lets.
You
know
that
and
as
part
of
that
process,
it
started
in
2006
ran
on
through
2007,
ultimately
resulted
in
in
recommendations
to
the
City
Council
and
our
current
fee
structure,
both
the
calculation
method
and
the
and
the
rates
were
adopted
in
in
2009
and
were
had
some
adjustments
in
2010
and
they
were
gradually
increased.
G
Those
non-residential
rates
had
a
period
in
which
they
were
ramped
up
over
a
five-year
period
between
2009
and
2013
as
well.
So
that
was
all
part
of
part
of
the
last
round
of
this.
So
it's
been
10
years
since
the
actual
level
of
service
cost
of
service
study
was
actually
conducted,
and
so
this
is
just
part
of
the
periodic
review
for
the
health
of
the
utility.
G
So
who
is
it
that
we're
working
with
HDR
is
the
prime
consultant
on
this
contract
and
justin
bolander
is
here
from
HDR
he's
their
project
manager?
They
are
subcontracted
with
both
ERC,
which
stands
for
environmental
rate
consultants
and
with
SCM
engineering
and
both
the
principals
in
those
companies,
john
d'amico
and
his
brother,
al
D'amico,
with
the
ERC
and
steve
mckinley
with
sem
they
have
been
involved
and
have
been
part
of
the
original
level
of
service
cost
of
service
study.
They
are
subcontracted
and
its
admitted
on
this
project
as
well.
G
So
a
couple
of
things,
I'll
mention
and
I
know
at
this
point.
Justin
is
going
to
come
up
and
go
over
some
information
relative
to
the
to
the
project
itself.
But
I'll
highlight
a
couple
of
things
that
but
I
know
that
he's
gonna
get
tuned.
They're
highlighted
there
on
the
screen.
Just
talking
about
some
of
the
experience
of
the
ERC
yeah
Justin.
H
Yeah
I'll
just
well.
Thank
you,
I'll
add
to
be
here.
Let's
see
everyone
just
want
to
mention.
You
know,
particularly
about
ERC
and
Steve
McKinley.
These
folks
are
financial
professionals
they're
the
ones
who
have
spent
their
careers
doing
this
type
of
work
all
across
the
country
and
they've
been
able
to
share
their
expertise
here
and
one
thing
you'll
you'll
hear
throughout
my
discussion
is
legally
defensible
rates
and
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
that
their
program,
one
of
the
programs
that
they
helped
set
up,
was
challenging
in
state
court
in
Ohio
and
upheld.
H
So
you
hear
that
legally
defensible
theme.
You
know
throughout
our
discussion
here
this
afternoon.
So
gonna
start
off
about
start
off
with
talking
about
the
revenue
sources
for
the
water
quality
program
and
then
we'll
talk
about
what
that
money
has
been
on
the
different
expenditures
so
really
on
the
revenue
side.
H
There's
two
sources:
there's
the
water
quality
fee
which
has
been
established
since
2009,
at
a
rate
of
one
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars
and
20
cents
per
equivalent
residential
unit,
so
basically
per
impervious
area,
and
then
the
the
land
disturbance
permit
fees
which
constitute
a
smaller
portion
which
date
back
25
years
to
1993
at
$30,
an
acre
disturbed
acre.
So
so,
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
expenditures
and
and
the
responsibilities
of
the
water
quality
program
and
what
all
those
revenue
sources
go
into.
H
So
generally,
when
we
talk
about
mandated
responsibilities,
we're
talking
about
the
federal
Clean,
Water
Act
and
we're
talking
about
the
MS
for
NPDES
permit,
so
the
storm
water
utility
permit
that
the
city
is
required
to
meet.
So
this
is
a
list
of
items
that
that
generally
comes
out
of
the
permit
and
some
additional
items
that
the
city
takes
care
of
as
part
of
their
regulatory
responsibilities.
H
So
you
know,
for
example,
construction
site
runoff,
that
that
pulls
in
the
land
development
program
and
and
what
all
they're
responsible
for
illicit
discharge,
detection,
there's
hundreds
of
those
investigations
or
I'm
sorry
over
a
hundred
of
those
per
year,
continually
that
has
to
be
investigated
and
and
determined
biological
sampling
you'll
see
the
map
here,
showing
these
these
different
sampling
locations
across
the
eight
watersheds.
So
there's
there's
various
programs
on
on
the
sampling
side
that
have
to
be
done
on
an
annual
basis
and
reported
the
t
deck.
H
So
that's
you
know
just
a
quick
summary
of
the
the
unfunded
mandates
that
are
provided
through
the
the
regulatory
requirements
for
the
program.
So
if
we
talk
about
other
activities
funded
by
the
program
now
some
of
these
have
overlap
with
the
regulatory
requirements,
but
some
of
them
are
based
on
you
know,
meeting
the
city,
the
city's
vision
and
their
mission
of
you
know
providing
service
to
their
citizens.
H
Obviously,
there's
there's
issues
with
rights-of-way
areas
that
get
flooded
in
roadways
and
things
like
that,
and
it
may
involve
field
work
or
modeling.
Of
course,
there's
there's
capital
projects
and
we
think
capital
projects.
We
always
think
you
know
construction,
millions
of
dollars
in
construction.
Well,
you
also
have
the
management
of
the
contract
and
the
contractors
and
the
inspection,
the
daily
inspections.
So
all
those
things
add
up
and
and
they're
part
of
the
responsibilities
on
the
operation
and
maintenance
side.
There
there's
an
infrastructure
system.
H
So
the
construction
crews
for
those
items
are
big
part
of
this
operation
and
maintenance
item,
as
well
as
the
maintaining
of
the
of
the
ditches
and
the
streams
which
require
clearing
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
overgrowth
in
those
areas
that
are
causing
flooding
and
those
those
various
things.
And
then
you
know
the
the
part
of
that
conveyance.
That's
buried
piping
is
approximately
650
miles
so
each
year
those
there's
a
portion
of
those
that's
inspected
and
then
there's
cleaning.
That
goes
along
with
that.
H
So
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
really
is
the
number
of
staff
you
can
see
them
in
the
in
the
various
different
categories
and
you
can
see
the
the
various
activities
that
are
associated
with
a
lot
of
things
that
I
just
talked
about,
but
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
you
know
as
we
went
through
our
data
gathering
process.
You
know
this
is
one
of
the
things.
H
Obviously,
that's
that's
considered
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
those
employees
come
into
the
to
the
overall
implications
of
the
program
in
a
moment.
So
we've
talked
a
lot
about
what
is
included
in
the
water
quality
fund.
Well,
let's,
let's
talk
about
two
items
that
aren't
included
the
wastewater
side
of
it.
The
consent
decree
program
is
really
a
separate,
a
separate
entity
altogether.
As
far
as
the
wastewater
infrastructure
maintenance
there's
some
small
over
that
overlap
there.
H
When
you
talk
about
combined
sewers,
there
are
some
combined
sewer
separation
projects
that
they
get
done
under
the
water
quality
fund
under
the
capital
program.
But
by
and
large
the
wastewater
infrastructure
is
a
separate
thing
as
well.
As
you
know,
private
property
issues,
if
we're
addressing
flooding
in
regards
to
three
one
one
response
for
example,
then
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
determine
you
know
where
that
responsibility
lies
and
and
their
their.
You
know
things
like
pipes
and
infrastructure
on
private
property
that
that
are
just
not
part
of
this
program.
H
They're,
not
part
of
the
city's
responsibility.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
those
two
things
out:
okay,
so
now
that
we've
talked
about
the
revenues
and
and
what
all
this
revenue
gets
spent
on
the
responsibilities,
we'll
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more,
basically
a
bird's
eye
view
of
the
rate
study
program
itself.
So
there's
a
timeline
associated
with
the
program
and
as
bill
mentioned,
it's
a
it's
a
ten
year.
Look
ahead!
H
So,
to
show
you
a
little
bit
about
the
rate
study
process
overall
here,
I
really
just
wanted
to
focus
on
the
the
red
highlight
there,
the
other
areas
I'm
going
to
get
into
and
in
the
next
slides
here
that
lead
up
to
number
six.
But
right
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we've
been
working
for
approximately
the
last
calendar
year
and
we've
got
a
draft
version
of
the
that
actually
sounds
better
when
I
go
closer.
H
A
draft
version
of
the
results
of
the
study-
and
you
know
we're
here
today-
to
give
you
more
of
a
bird's
eye
view
of
the
program
itself
and
of
the
study
and
what
we've
done
and
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
reviewing
the
results
with
the
storm
water
board
and
with
the
administration
and
and
then
finally,
with
again
with
you
all
win
when
the
time
comes.
H
So
let's
excuse
me
it's
kind
of
start
from
the
beginning
here
and
and
just
talk
about
how
we
developed
the
the
rape
model
and
all
of
the
information
about
the
study.
So
what
I
want
to
point
out
here
is
that
we're
we're
looking
and
striving
to
make
this
a
legally
defensible
rate
projection
and
a
legally
defensible
study
to
provide
to
the
city
and
to
do
that.
We
really
start
from
from
the
city's
mission
and
vision
for
the
public
works
department
and
for
the
city
in
general.
H
So
to
get
there,
we
started
out
with
a
data
gathering
phase
and
mainly
just
started
with
a
questionnaire
to
the
to
the
various
groups
in
the
program
and
in-person
interviews,
and
we
were
able
to
put
together
organizational
charts
that
define
each
employee
and
then
be
able
to
understand
the
salaries
and
the
benefits
of
each
of
those
employees.
We've
talked
about
the
regulatory
requirements
with
the
Clean
Water
Act
and
the
NPDES
permit.
H
We
also
have
total
maximum
daily
load
requirements
TMDLs
and
that
impacts
some
of
the
different
watersheds
in
the
area
and
then
once
we
have
those
two
things,
we
can
look
at
what
all
those
people
do.
What
are
those
water
quality
activities
that
they
do
and
how
are
those
activities
broken
down
into
efforts
for
water
quality
and
water,
quantity
or
flooding
and
drainage?
H
If
you
will
so
one
of
those
areas
is
addressing
citizen
request,
there's
we
were
provided
a
database
of
work
orders
over
the
last
several
years,
we're
able
to
analyze
those
and
understand
what
those
different
various
activities
cost
from
a
standpoint
of
you
know.
How
much
does
it
cost
to
go
and
fix
the
broken
pipe
or
to
repair
a
catch
basin
or
to
repair
a
certain
length
of
pipe
and
be
able
to
use
that
in
a
projection
going
forward
and
to
what
the
city
will
spend
in
the
future?
H
So
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more
obviously,
revenue
and
budgets.
We've
we've
talked
about
that
some.
You
know.
We
have
final
financial
statements
from
the
last
several
years
and
the
budget
for
this
fiscal
year
and
capital
improvement
projects.
We
leaned
on
the
staff
a
lot
here
to
give
us
a
projection
of
what
those
projects
would
be
for
the
next
five
and
ten
years.
H
Some
of
the
more
detailed
analyses
that
we
did
on
this
data
was
was
these
four
listed
on
the
bottom
here.
I've
already
talked
a
lot
about
the
work
order,
data
and
capital
improvements,
I
mentioned
TMDL,
so
recent
changes
with
with
the
way
development
is
handled
in
certain
watersheds
is
going
to
determine
how
the
city
is
addressing
these
total
maximum
daily
load
requirements
for
south
Chickamauga
Creek,
for
example.
H
So
once
we
were
able
to
gather
all
the
data
we
developed
this
this
business
plan
and
develop
the
goals,
statements
that
really
look
at
how
the
city
meets
all
the
goals
for
the
water
quality
program,
and
once
we
understood
that
we
were
able
to
also
understand
what
the
the
current
level
of
service
is.
So
that's
the
services
that
are
being
provided
now
and
we're
providing
the
water
quality
program
is
providing
services.
H
You
know
to
meet
the
vision
and
the
mission
and
the
goals
of
the
city
as
well
as
the
regulatory
requirements,
so
this
required
minimum
level
of
service
that
the
nomenclature
that
we've
used
here
that
defines
the
the
next
five
years
and
the
future
minimum
level
service
defines
that
period
after
that.
So
when
I
say
required,
minimum
level
of
service
we're
not
talking
about
doing
the
bare
minimum.
H
What
we're
talking
about
doing
is
meeting
the
goals
of
the
city
meeting
the
expectations
of
what
the
city's
goals
and
mission
are
and
meeting
the
regulatory
requirements
and
having
the
funding
to
do
that.
So
don't
get
too
hung
up
on
on
that
minimum
part.
What
we're
really
just
trying
to
say
is
that
we
didn't
provide
the
Cadillac
with
everything
you
could
possibly
ever
want
to
do
in
the
next
five
years.
H
Environmental
rate
consultants
has
an
interactive
rate
model
that
they've
developed
over
the
years
and
and
that's
really
the
basis
for
what
we've
used
here.
I
mentioned
about
the
final
financial
statements
and
and
the
budget
for
this
year,
which
he
used
to
produce
this.
You
know
ERU
base
rate
and
revenue
projection
for
the
next
ten
years.
H
I
think
I've
mentioned
legally
defensible
enough
at
this
point,
so
topics
considered
that
are
included
here,
so
it
the
scenario
is
a
pay-as-you-go
type
scenario,
so
we're
not
considering
taking
on
future
debt
to
to
accomplish
the
program
or
capital
projects
or
anything
like
that,
but
it
does
include
servicing
that
existing
debt
and
existing
bond
payments
and
carrying
that
through
there's
there's
some
programs
that
require
additional
staff
to
be
added
and
that's
considered.
Of
course,
we've
already
talked
about
capital
projects.
H
Some
of
the
things
that
go
along
with
that
our
construction
equipment
and
the
maintaining
of
that
equipment,
the
increased
in
construction
materials
over
a
time
period,
inflation,
those
uncollectible
x'
that
are
there,
always
worked
in
in
addition
to
revenue,
adjustments
and
credits
for
those
that
may
have
a
tax
reason
to
to
not
pay
the
fee
or
whether
there's
a
credit
for
various
properties
that
that
don't
apply.
So
those
are
just
a
snippet
of
you
know
of
the
background
going
into
the
study.
G
So
as
as
we
mentioned
on
the
slide
that
showed
the
process
flow,
there
is
obviously
there's
there's
been
quite
a
comprehensive
review
of
all
the
information.
That's
there
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
looking
forward
properly,
and
so
those
next
steps
are
to
take
this
draft
rate
study
that
that's
in
the
process
of
being
worked
through
it'll
next
get
wrapped
up
and
finalized
there'll,
be
a
presentation
on
to
the
stormwater
regulations
board
and
then,
after
that,
it
will
continue
through
and
come
forward
after
that
with
City
Council's.
G
So
so,
then
there
will
be
a
process,
obviously
of
completing
those
some
reviews
with
the
administration
as
well
throughout
that
process.
So
that's
that's
just
all
part
of
the
normal
course,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
all
were
we're
aware,
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
provide
you
some
information
on
the
contract.
So
thank
you.
I
Well,
thank
you.
Mr.
chair
I
may
have
two
one
for
Justin
one
for
Justin
Justin.
Can
you
walk
me
through
the
term
you
mentioned
legally
defensible
several
times
and
I'm
I
need
a
little
more
because
it
sounds
to
me
like
you're,
really
trying
to
shore
something
up
when
you
use
a
term
like
that.
Can
you
take
that
a
little
further.
H
Alarming
about
that,
if
al
D'amico
and
john
d'amico
were
here,
I'm
sure
they
would
chime
in
a
little
bit
more
than
me
and
they're
the
folks
that
have
been
doing
this
type
of
work
across
the
country
throughout
their
career
and,
of
course,
when
you
change
rates.
Obviously
there
are
people
that
that
may
not
be
happy
about
that
right.
I
G
Add
to
that
just
one
of
the
reasons
why
that's
that's
important
for
us
is
with
the
original
adoption
of
a
fee
in
1993.
Chattanooga
also
went
through
similar
challenges
in
that
regard,
and
so,
whenever
we
changed
in
2009,
we
actually
switched
from
a
prior
method
that
had
been
in
place
from
93
to
2009
to
the
current
equivalent
residential
unit,
and
so
that
is-
and
that
is
a
method
didn't
at
the
time
ours
was
adopted.
There
were
multiple
ways
of
calculating
it,
and
ours
was
not
one
of
the
most
legally
defensible.
G
I
F
That's
that's
probably
the
best
best
answer
we
should
we
should
give
you
is
kind
of
what
we
define
as
a
private
property
public
property
issue.
But
one
of
the
things
to
point
out
is
that
the
study
that
we've
done
will
give
the
runs
through
several
scenarios
and
it's
the
administrator.
You
know
it's
it's
our
job,
to
sort
of
evaluate
what
we
should
do
for
the
overall
public
good.
F
What
that
rate
would
involve
to
perform
that
level
of
service,
but
it
can
change
what
we
do
today
can
certainly
change,
and
it
has
evolved
over
time
as
it
just
takes
money.
So
we
know
that
things
cost
a
lot
of
money
to
build
these
underground
this
underground
infrastructure
and
to
improve
the
underground
infrastructure
takes
a
lot
of
support.
It
takes
a
lot
of
support
from
engineering
and
from
our
operations
side.
F
So,
while
what
we
do
today
wasn't
what
we
did
several
years
ago,
many
years
ago
on
private
properties
or
public
properties
just
the
same
as
its
changed,
it
can
change
again,
and
you
know
some
of
the
syria's
that
we've
talked
about
actually
make
some
significant
changes
to
that.
We
want
to
brief
you
on
that
later,
but
I'd
like
for
bill
to
kind
of
answer.
What
is
private
property
public
property?
What
are
those
problems
look
like
today
and
how
do
we
address
those
and.
I
The
reason
I'm
asking
bill
is
obviously
district
4
is
we
even
have
roads
called
shallow
Ford
running
through
it?
So
water
is
a
huge
issue
for
us
out
there
and
and
I
get
a
lot
of
constituent
reports,
of
course,
with
many
roads
like
Davidson,
Morra
and
so
I'm
interested
in
how
the
determination
is
made.
When
someone
contacts
and
says
hey
I
have
a
very
serious
problem:
I
need
the
city
to
come
out
and
look
at
it
because
that's
usually
the
first
sentence
right.
G
So
so
most
most
calls
are
going
to
come
in
through
through
3-1-1
and
they'll,
get
routed
to
our
to
our
drainage
investigation
staff.
That's
in
our
water
quality
engineering,
they'll
they'll,
then
at
that
point,
reach
out
and
contact
a
person.
I've
always
been
been
clear
with
with
staff
that
that
people
will
describe
things
over
the
phone
they'll
send
an
email,
their
way
of
describing
it
will
use
different
words,
different
terminology
and
and
I've
learned
over
the
years.
G
Every
case
is
different,
so
we
do
go
out
to
look
at
all
of
them
in
order
to
figure
out
what's
going
on.
Sometimes
they
are
repeat
calls.
You
know
that
we
may
have.
We
may
have
been
out
and
looked
at
before,
but
once
we
go
out
and
look
at
those,
we
have
a
drainage
policy,
which
is
something
that
has
been
developed.
G
It's
been
actually
looked
at
and
adopted
a
couple
of
different
times
by
City
Council,
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
different
iterations
along
the
way
once
in
the
late
nineties
and
once
in
the
mid-2000s,
but
those
those
are
there
they're
the
guiding
documents
and,
at
that
point,
from
a
flooding
perspective
or
a
drainage
perspective.
We're
going
to
look
at
it
and
say
is
this:
is
this
a
situation
that
starts
out
on
private
property
and
is
it
water
running
from
one
property
owner
to
another?
Is
this
is?
G
Is
there
water
coming
from
a
right-of-way
or
going
onto
a
right-of-way
that
is
involved
in
this?
Where
is
the
infrastructure?
Are
there
easements
that
may
have
been
given
to
the
city,
or
are
they
just
private
easements
that
run
through
private
property
so
from
the
city's
perspective
overall,
just
a.
G
Mistake
law
that
says:
you're
responsible,
you're,
responsible,
you're
responsible.
You
know
as
far
as
something
that
clearly
defines
that
there's
also
not
anything
in
our
city
code
that
clearly
defines
that
Tennessee
follows:
what's
called
common
law
of
drainage
and
it
basically
says
water
is
going
to
land
and
it's
going
to
start
from
the
top
of
the
hill
and
run
downstream,
and
every
property
owner
is
responsible
to
accept
that
flow
and
convey
it
to
the
next
person
downstream.
So
the
city
is,
is
a
in
that
sense.
G
I
Is
also
you
were
almost
touched
on
it,
real,
quick
once
you're
out
there,
you
make
a
determination
of
the
situation.
What
can
the
city
do?
Do
we
have
a
service,
a
resource,
for
example?
Hey?
This
is
on
your
property.
This
is
determined
a
private
property
issue.
We
don't
just
turn
around
and
say
well
have
a
nice
day
there.
H
I
G
G
You
know
this
is
where
the
problem
is
coming
from,
and
these
are
some
ways
that
you
could
solve
it,
but
sometimes
you
know,
then
the
issues
are
you
know
my
neighbor
graded,
their
you
know
graded
their
yard
and
they
directed
all
their
damn
spouts
right
at
my
fence,
and
now
my
fence
is
washing
away.
They
want
us
to
step
in
and
do
something
about
that.
You
know
those
are
some
things
where
we
can.
You
know
a
lot
of
times
we
come
out
and
look
at.
We
go
yet
you're
right.
G
I
J
G
Not
necessarily
this
is,
this
is
just
any
sort
of
a
you
know,
any
sort
of
a
rate
review
like
that.
It's
it's,
the
study
really
is
the
basis
for
the
fee,
and
so
this
is
a
matter
of
making
sure
that
that
what
we
do
and
what
we
look
at,
that
there's
nothing
arbitrary
and
that
the
amount
of
dollars
that
are
needed
for
the
program.
J
G
G
G
Those
rate
services
and
then
we'll
move
forward
to
the
stormwater
regulations
board.
They
they
generally
have
a
you
know
they
can
meet
once
a
month.
You
know
so
obviously
we're
looking
to
try
to
move
those
things
forward
over
the
next
few
weeks
to
try
to
get
that
moving
forward.
You
know,
hopefully
the
board
can
hear
about
that
and
then
after
the
board
hears
it,
then
it
would
come
forward
for.
J
E
Thank
You,
council
members,
I
think
bill
and
I
have
spoken
about
this,
and
we've
actually
forwarded
a
letter
to
his
office
to
make
sure
that
the
recommendations
are
coming
there
and
I
guess.
In
addition
to
that,
to
make
sure
that
such
here
at
least
is
attendance
at
the
meetings
whenever
something
is
on
the
agenda.
Okay,.
J
J
K
K
J
L
M
G
N
L
So
today
we're
gonna
hear
a
little
more
from
baby.
You,
you
heard
me,
give
some
information
about
them
a
couple
weeks
ago,
but
we
have
the
final
year
to
evaluation
from
the
external
evaluators,
so
we're
gonna
share
with
you
some
in-depth
information.
Some
research
max
Taylor
is
with
UTS
College
of
Social
Work
office
of
research
and
public
service,
better
known
as
UT
Schwartz
and
he's
gonna
give
an
update
and
time
for
questions.
So
I
hope
you
enjoy
it
as
much
as
I
do
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
max.
O
Thank
you.
Okay,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
all
right.
Oh
my
max
Taylor
I
have
a
Master
of
Public
Health
from
University
of
Tennessee
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
our
director
Marianne
coming
Cunningham
and
our
statistician,
dr.
Olga,
Ebert
and,
of
course,
babe
University
and
I'm,
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
our
findings
from
the
first
two
years
of
the
program.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
having
me.
The
period
covered
by
this
presentation
is
from
August
of
2015
to
October
of
2017,
and
we
prepared
the
report
this
January.
O
O
O
This
assessment
data
includes
active
cases,
closed
cases
and
program
graduates,
as
of
that
October
31st
date,
just
as
a
side
note
from
the
beginning
of
the
program
to
the
present
day.
Baby.
U
has
served
a
total
of
two
hundred
and
forty
five
families,
four
hundred
and
fifty
eight
adults
and
five
hundred
and
seventy
seven
children.
O
This
slide
shows
the
racial
composition
of
baby.
U
clients!
As
of
that
date,
eighty
seven
african-american
56
percent
families
followed
by
latina
and
Latino
families
at
28
percent,
Caucasian
at
10%
and
then
multiracial
and
middle
Easterner
Asian.
The
next
slide
shows
the
number
of
adults
per
family.
There
were
60
families
with
one
adult
which
is
thirty:
nine
percent
61
percent
of
baby.
U
households
have
two
or
more
adults
and
household,
and
you
can
see
the
breakdown
there,
68
households
with
two
adults
18
with
three
adults:
four
and
five
multi-generational
families.
O
O
O
O
Here
we
have
a
graph
showing
baby
births
at
healthy
weight,
which
is
defined
by
the
World
Health
Organization
as
equal
to
or
greater
than
five
pounds.
Eight
ounces.
Eight
babies
were
born
less
than
that
amount,
but
that
included
some
twins,
which
automatically
are
expected
to
weigh
less
than
single
births
even
at
full
term.
Fifty
nine
of
those
were
at
or
above
healthy
weight.
There's
information
here
on
the
side
panels
about
the
number
of
births
and
the
number
projected
in
November
and
then
there's
updated
information
that
we
are
currently
gathering
about
the
status
of
families.
O
Since
then,
that's
currently
being
worked
on
by
doctor
Ebert
right
now,
who
keeps
texting
me
here.
We
have
a
comparison
of
baby,
you,
families,
healthy
birth
outcomes
compared
to
the
state
as
a
whole,
Hamilton
County
and
then
in
green.
The
target
zip
codes
of
the
program-
three
seven,
four,
oh
four,
three,
seven,
four,
oh
seven
and
three,
seven,
four
one,
oh
and
this
represents
that
100%
of
baby
you
mother's,
receive
prenatal
care
prior
to
delivery,
which
is
a
very,
very
good
finding.
O
The
next
slide
here
is
showing
a
similar
comparison
between
the
state,
the
county,
the
area
and
then
baby
you
clients
in
terms
of
low
birth
weight
and
infant
mortality,
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
comparison
is
very
favorable
for
baby.
You,
families
I'd
like
to
particularly
call
your
attention
to
the
infant
mortality
that
0%,
that
is
all
babies
that
are
born
and
born
healthy.
So
that's
a
wonderful
finding,
low
birth
weight
is
associated
with
increased
risk
of
developmental
and
health
problems
later
in
life.
That
12%
represents
the
only
eight
people
mentioned
before.
O
For
the
next
graph
here,
we're
going
to
be
showing
the
increase
in
the
percentage
of
children
on
track
using
the
ages
and
stages
questionnaire
tool
from
enrollment,
which
is
represented
by
the
grey
dots
to
the
most
recent
assessment.
As
of
the
writing
of
the
survey,
which
is
represented
by
the
green
dots,
the
ages
and
stages
questionnaire
pinpoints
developmental
progress
of
children
between
the
ages
of
two
months
and
sixty
six
months
in
five
key
areas
which
you
can
see
above.
O
The
most
significant
increase
that
I'd
like
to
call
your
attention
to
is
in
the
domain
of
problem
solving,
which
is
the
domain
most
closely
related
to
future
educational
success,
and
this
is
the
increase
that
achieved
statistical
significance
for
babyyou
clients,
children.
So
this
is
a
very,
very
significant
in
all
senses
of
the
word
outcome.
O
O
The
one
note
about
this
instrument
is
that
these
are
these
are
areas
which
are
identified
by
the
baby
university
specialist
in
partnership
with
the
parent
as
areas
of
concern
for
them.
So
for
certain
areas
like
adult
education,
if
a
parent
is
at
the
level
of
education
that
they
want
to
be
out
for
their
career,
then
they
may
not
identify
that
as
as
an
area
of
concern
for
them.
So
for
all
of
the
rest
of
these,
though,
these
are
representing
statistically
significant
increases
as
a
result
of
membership
in
the
program
which
is
which
is
wonderful.
O
The
next
slide
shows
some
of
the
other
domains
of
the
self-sufficiency
matrix
tool.
It
can
be
seen
in
this
slide
that
community
involvement
represents
the
largest
increase
and
in
this
slide
again
all
but
two
of
the
domains
demonstrate
statistically
significant
increases.
The
only
two
that
don't
are
the
two
that
were
highest
to
begin
with,
which
is
healthcare
coverage,
which
naturally,
that's
for
many
Tennesseans
benefit
from
10
care
and
substance
abuse,
which
for
which
was
already
in
an
extremely
positive
place
for
these
families,
where
it
was
not
an
issue
impinging
on
their
lives.
O
O
Parents
are
asked
to
respond
to
a
series
of
survey,
a
series
of
questions
in
terms
of
writing
them
as
being
zero,
not
at
all
like
me,
or
what
I
believe
to
a
four
very
much
like
me,
or
what
I
believe
and
four
being
the
maximum
possible
score
for
any
item.
These
assess
the
presence,
strength
and
growth
of
parents,
beliefs
and
behaviors
that
are
indicative
of
these
protective
factors,
guarding
against
child
abuse
and
neglect,
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
this
slide
is
showing
the
increase
in
the
number
of
fours.
O
So
the
number
of
parents
responding
that
the
maximum
possible
agreement
with
each
statement
and
for
almost
all
of
these
social
connections,
concrete
support
and
parental
resilience.
The
increase
achieves
statistical
significance.
The
social
and
emotional
competence
of
children
approaches
it.
So
these
are
very
good
findings
and
here
is
another
graph
demonstrating
in
a
more
visual
way.
The
movement
as
people
move
from
low
to
moderate
scores
to
high
scores
to
maximum
scores.
You
can
see
the
number
of
low
and
moderate
scores
and
the
number
of
high
scores
decreases.
O
O
O
Childproofing
includes
making
sure
children
are
protected
from
common
household
dangers,
and
outdoor
play
includes
making
sure
that
any
outdoor
play
areas
are
located
safely
away
from
dangerous
areas
and
free
from
hazards
like
standing,
water
or
machinery.
Structural
safety
includes
making
sure
that
the
home
is
structurally
sound
and
free
from
lead
paint.
O
All
increases
in
these
domains
were
significant
and
all
of
them
all
of
them
were
movement
in
the
correct
direction.
So
this
is
another
very
gratifying
finding
for
us,
and
here
we
see
the
increase
in
the
total
health
and
safety
score
from
the
first
assessment
in
gray
to
the
most
recent
assessment
in
green
and
then.
Finally,
this
slide
is
my
personal
favorite.
Each
of
those
dots
represents
a
baby.
You
client,
which
we
surveyed
via
mail
or
interviewed
the
the
green
people,
are
people
who
agreed
in
the
strongest
possible
terms
with
the
nine
statements.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
those
numbers.
One
of
the
very
first
things
that
I
did
when
I
was
elected
was
to
visit
Donna
and
her
staff
at
signal.
Centers
and
paid
special
attention
to
what
baby
University
was
doing
and
I
was
very,
very
impressed
with
the
vision
at
that
time,
and
it's
good
to
see
the
numbers
that
are
coming
in
with
this.
So
I
appreciate
that
presentation.
So
my
next
big
question
for
the
entire
program
is
really
simple:
where
do
we
go
now.
M
We
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
and
we've
had
actually,
since
this
survey
started
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
found
incredible
success
at
Howard,
High
School
is
with
our
teen
parents,
and
so
we
had
a
private
donor
who
donated
sixty
six
thousand
dollars
for
us
to
start
the
program
at
Brainerd,
and
we
have
done
that.
We
started
in
January
and
we
now
have
eleven
teens
who
are
either
pregnant
or
the
the
qualification
for
the
program.
M
So
we
have
a
to
generational
approach
and
everything
we
do,
and
so
that's
the
next
step
for
us
if
we
could
hit
every
high
school
that
has
pregnant
teens
I,
think
that
would
be
a
great
next
step,
because
that
you
saw
the
rates
52%
graduated
from
high
school,
and
we
have
so
far
a
hundred
percent
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
that
again,
the
brainer
we
met
with
all
the
staff
of
the
counselors
that
Brainerd
and
the
counseling
staff.
They
have
four
counselors
there.
They
said
all
of
them
said
to
us.
M
Basically,
when
a
girl
gets
pregnant,
we
don't
see
her
again.
They
couldn't
identify
one
that
graduated
and
they
have
been
so
supportive.
The
schools
have
to
allow
us
to
come
in
during
the
school
day,
give
us
a
little
time
every
other
week,
and
then
we
also
go
to
the
girls
homes
and
meet
with
a
mother
and
the
father.
M
We
got
to
do
something:
that's
our
future.
We
don't
want
to
lose
even
a
one
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
better
seven
percent
in
all
of
Hamilton
County
in
Tennessee,
so
we're
getting
calls
now
about
replicating
this.
In
other
places,
we've
presented
it
a
couple
of
national
forums,
and
we
think
that
this
is
a
model.
The
next
charge
for
UT
Schwartz's,
to
compare
us
to
some
of
the
other
national
models
that
are
much
more
expensive.
It
costs
about
six
thousand
dollars
to
serve
a
family
and.
J
M
Programs,
it
costs
twenty
or
thirty,
and
we
do
in
home
visitation
it's
just
not
a
good
state.
We
do
we
do
everything
if
they
need
diapers,
we
work
to
let
help
the
family
establish
their
goals,
we
don't
do
it
for
them
and
then
work
to
move
them
towards
advocating
for
themselves
and
that's
a
unique
task.
So
thank
you
for
that
question.
Do
you
all
have
any
ideas
about
where
else
we
should
go
well.
I
I
M
You
it's
been
a
delight.
We
we
just
don't
say
no,
that's
and
Councilman
Coonrod
came
and
spoke
at
one
of
our
things.
Several
we
all
have
been
to
other
events
that
we've
had
and
anything
we
can
do
to
inspire
and
help
it
encourage
families
to
succeed.
It's
great
and
y'all
were
one
of
the
first
encouragers
when
we
started
this
program.
Everybody
on
this
council
just
said
yeah.
If
you
can
do
this,
we'll
help
you
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mister.
N
M
M
N
C
K
M
Through
our
signal,
centers
number
and
it's
the
main
number
and
we
will
direct
her
to
a
person
who
will
do
an
intake
and
we'll
take
everybody.
So
as
long
as
you're
in
our
in
our
areas,
we
also
take
anyone
who's
homeless,
no
matter
the
zip
code.
The
other
thing
that
we
quickly
realized
is
that
many
of
our
clients
are
mobile.
They
may
not
stay
in
our
zip
codes.
M
We
don't
drop
them
when
they
leave
so,
but
yes,
we
will
come
out
and
we'll
do
a
home
visit
if
they'll,
if
they're
comfortable
with
a
home
visit,
we'll
go
to
the
home,
if
not
we'll
meet
them
somewhere,
where
they
are
comfortable
and
then
talk
about
the
requirements
of
the
program,
because
we
ask
people
to
step
up.
Let
us
come
to
your
home.
Let
us
go
into
your
home
with
this
assessment
tool
and,
let's
figure
out,
what's
safe
for
your
kid
together
and
so
we're
pretty
intrusive.
M
You
know
we
want
to
know
when
you're
your
ob/gyn
visits
are
and
if
you
managed
not
to
get
your
transportation
schedule
with
10
care,
we
will
go,
get
you
and
take
you
to
that
appointment
and
watch
the
kids
while
you're
in
there.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
prenatal
care
is
done
in
a
very
good
way,
because
it's
hard,
if
you
don't
have
transportation,
you
don't
have
other
childcare.
M
Add
all
of
my
case
managers,
but
to
have
a
Social
Work
degree
and
those
to
have
either
early
childhood
or
a
related
degree.
So
the
director
of
the
program
has
a
master's
in
she's,
a
Masters
in
Social
Work,
which
is
what
she's
a
lot
of
experience
in
counseling
there's
one
other
one
who
has
significant
experience
in
counseling
as
well.
M
N
N
In
baby
you
they
stop
immediately
what
they're
doing
to
go,
take
care
of
the
needs
of
the
participants,
and
that's
what
about
us
when
you
have
that
mentor,
that's
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
you're
successful-
and
you
know
they
take
heed
today
and
then
the
fact
that
you're,
including
the
whole
family,
is
it's
not
just
me
being
a
teen
mom
in
the
program.
It's
the
whole
family
and
I've,
seen
how
it's
working
and
just
continuing,
hopefully
that
it'll
be
citywide,
not
just
limited.
M
And
I
would
say
this
too.
One
of
the
things
you
asked
about
was
mental
health
and
that's
a
great
question,
because
it's
such
an
issue-
we've
worked
very
extensively
with
lots
of
partner.
Everything
from
I
mean
the
ladies
of
charity
give
us
money
for
diapers
every
month
they
let
anybody
who
gets
a
job
go
shop
for
free
at
their
thrift
shop.
We
have
an
amazing
number
of
partners
that
work
together
to
make
this
happen.
Creative
Discovery,
Museum
last
month.
Let
us
bring
everybody
over
there.
M
We
brought
almost
200
counting
adults
and
children
for
free
and
last
year
they
gave
everyone
who
was
participating
a
year's
membership
for
free.
So
we
had
this,
isn't
just
signal
centers
or
baby
university.
It's
everybody
and
I
think
everybody
wants
the
same
thing
for
our
families.
We
want
them
to
succeed
and
we
want
to
provide
them
the
resources
they
need
to
be
successful.
So
we're
very
grateful
for
all
that
y'all
have
done
and
look
forward
to
continue.
Thank
you.
N
M
Do
we
have
started
a
fatherhood
initiative
and
that
has
been
a
we're
learning?
Okay,
I
would
say:
we've
started
a
fatherhood
initiative
and
we
have
We
certainly
have
worked
with
fathers
who
are
in
the
families.
But
what
we
found
is
there's
lots
of
dads
at
the
schools
who
who
the
mother
of
their
child
is
not
at
the
school
and
we
are
working
with
them
as
well.
We
have
Haren,
we
hired
a
fatherhood
consultant
a
Brendon
last
year
and
sent
him
to
some
incredible
national,
nationally
known
training,
and
he
is
implementing
that
curriculum
with
the
father.