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From YouTube: Chattanooga City Council Meeting - 4/4/23
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Chattanooga City Council Meeting - 4/4/23
A
A
Okay,
all
right
Council.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
I'm
actually
just
gonna.
Be
brief.
This
is
a
fairly
straightforward
ordinance,
even
though
it
seems
a
little
complicated,
but
this
is
the
C
Pacer
ordinance,
which
is
a
enabled
by
enabling
legislation
passed
by
the
Tennessee
State
Legislature.
It
allows
us
to
finance-
well,
not
us,
actually
external
lenders
to
be
able
to
finance
energy
and
water
water
efficiency
projects,
as
well
as
renewable
energy
and
resiliency
projects.
A
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
it
works
and
how
folks
can
access
or
really
institutions
and
organizations
can
access
this
capital.
So
C
Pacer
is
authorized
by
title
68
chapter
205
in
the
Tennessee
code
annotated,
and
it
provides
property-based
financing
for
energy
and
Watergate
water
efficiency
projects.
It
acts
very
much
like
an
assessment.
This
is
a
a
financing
measure
that
allows
a
Voluntary
Assessment
lien
to
be
placed
on
the
property
and
the
funds
are
repaid
every
year
with
a
or
rather
they're
paid
over
over
a
long
period
of
time.
A
So
the
city
allows
the
the
assessor
basically
or
they
allow
a
Voluntary
Assessment
to
be
placed
on
the
land.
We
do
that.
Yes,
although
we
are
able
to
delegate
that
responsibility
to
the
lender.
So
in
essence,
our
primary
responsibility
is
to
just
certify
that
this
is
eligible,
an
eligible
project
by
Statute.
So.
A
Any
risk
so
the
only
there's
very
limited
risk
to
the
city,
and
this
is
something
that
Phil
has
been
very
helpfully
pointing
out.
The
city
takes
on
no
liability
except
for
cases
of
gross
negligence.
So
if
we
had
our
office
were
to,
you
know
very
be
able
to
be
demonstrably
negligent
in
reviewing
that
eligibility.
Then
it's
possible
that
the
city
could
be
held
liable,
but
that's
never
happened
in
the
history
of
sea
pace
and
we
would
back
at
it.
A
Our
office
would
would
make
sure
that
these
projects
are
eligible,
okay,
but
otherwise,
no,
the
city's,
not
responsible
for
collecting
those
dollars
under
the
program
that
we've
designed.
We
are
not
responsible
for
any
losses
to
the
lender,
and
this
simply
allows
us
to
place
that
voluntary
assessment
lien
on
the
property
and
then
the
lender
and
the
and
the
organization
receiving
the
money
work
that
out
amongst
themselves.
But
the
payment
occurs
every
year.
B
A
C
A
I
would
anticipate
no
more
of
one
to
three
of
these
actually
even
coming
before
the
city
for
approval
every
year.
The
these
are,
you
know
not
going
to
be,
you
know
Mom
and
Pop
organizations
most
likely
applying
for
them.
There
are
other
financing
mechanisms,
but
if
you
are,
if
you
do
see
an
opportunity
to
invest
in
deep
Energy
Efficiency
upgrades,
this
is
a
good
option.
For
that
again,
there
have
been
I
think
in
the
total
of
Tennessee,
since
the
enabling
legislation
had
passed
across
the
four
cities.
A
A
C
A
Right
and
again
how
it
works
is
the
project
is
identified.
They
include
retrofits
and
new
construction.
Our
costs
and
improvements
are
certified
by
our
director
of
sustainability
as
being
eligible,
the
property
owner
and
the
capital
provider
reach
mutual
terms
for
financing.
That
includes
everything
that
you
would
normally
have
in
a
loan.
C
A
Have
to
come
the
the
property
owner
and
the
capital
provider
both
have
to
provide
sign
off
for
this
to
happen.
Okay,
thank
you
and
again.
I
want
to
just
kind
of
run
through
the
three
areas
where
see
Pace,
your
financing
has
been
enabled
at
the
local
level
is
Memphis
Nashville
and
Robertson
County
and
White
House
Tennessee,
and
each
of
them
have
each
approved
one
project.
Enabling
legislation
is
currently
in
progress
and
an
additional
four
jurisdiction,
including
Chattanooga.
D
D
C
A
And
this
kind
of
addresses
your
primary
Point,
most
properties
other
than
single
family
residential,
can
use
Sea
Pacers.
So
that
means
offices,
multi-family
housing,
industrial
retail,
hotels,
agriculture,
schools,
actually,
I,
don't
think
government
entities
would
be
able
to
use
it,
but
hospitals
is
a
good
example.
A
And
again,
the
the
benefits
to
the
property
owner
is
it's
100
financing
for
the
improvements.
Typically,
the
Energy
savings
exceed
the
payments
which
immediately
provides
improved
net
operating
income
and
a
good
example
of
this.
Is
you
improve
the
Energy
Efficiency
of
your
building
to
such
a
degree
that
you
would
ultimately
have
had
you
not
done
that
been
paying
more?
A
In
probably
electric
costs
or
what
have
you,
and
it
also
increases
property
values
which
is
a
benefit
to
our
local
government,
which
will
ultimately
increase
the
tax
base,
which
is
why
the
lien
stays
on
the
property
itself
and
does
not
transfer
the
owner?
Doesn't
the
owner
sells
the
property,
the
lien
stays
on
the
property
and,
of
course,
that
would
be
any
Title
Company
would
be
able
to
disclose
that
at
the
point
of
sale.
So.
A
Among
other
things,
so
if
you
were
to
want
to
finance
additional
resiliency
for
your
building
to
councilwoman
Hills
Hospital
example-
and
you
wanted
to
add
solar
panels
to
the
roof,
you
can
Finance
out
there
you're
going
to
save
energy.
That's
right!
You
could
do
that
or
you
could
do
something
like
as
you're
building
a
new
building.
You
could
choose
the
highest
energy
rated
materials
and
make
your
building
incredibly
energy
efficient.
A
Again,
none
of
our
local
financial
resources
are
at
risk.
We
generally
have
no
liability
for
non-payment
by
the
property
owner
and
we're
only
liable
in
cases
of
gross
negligence.
This
helps
us
achieve
our
sustainability
goals
without
public
spending.
Not
a
single
public
dollar
goes
into
these
this
program
and
it's
also
an
economic
development
tool
by
incentivizing,
retrofits
and
new
construction.
We
helped
create
those
green
new
jobs
that
we've
been
talking
about.
A
Again,
the
the
seat
Pacer,
enabling
legislation
outline
several
categories
for
eligible
improvements,
including
energy
and
water,
water
efficiency,
renewable
energy
and
resiliency
measures,
including
protection
against
flooding,
wind
energy
storage.
Again,
these
are
things
that
which
we
have
regular
tornado
warnings
and
watches.
You
know
improving
your
buildings.
Ability
to
withstand
those
kinds
of
extreme
weather
events
is
also
a
part
of
this.
A
Finally,
the
qualified
properties
that
would
be
eligible
for
these
kinds
of
financing
tools
are
commercial
properties,
agricultural,
industrial,
multi-family,
rental,
housing
above
five
units.
Oh,
and
we
can,
with
government
agencies
use,
we
can
include
buildings
in
land
owned
by
government
agencies,
particularly
those
that
we've
leased
out
as
well
as
retrofit
new
construction.
A
The
underwriting
requirements
which
I
I
might
lose
some
of
you
here,
but
that's
okay,
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
I
included
this
information,
it's
a
little
boring,
but
the
financing
does
include
hard
and
soft
costs,
including
excluding
land
acquisition.
So
you
couldn't
purchase
land
with
this,
and
the
financing
cannot
be
more
than
25
of
the
failed
market.
A
A
It's
a
certifying,
the
actual
costs
are
eligible
for
the
sea,
Pacer
lending,
so
it
is,
for
example,
you
tell
us
what
you're
going
to
do
with
the
funds
and
Eric
Schmidt
on
our
team
would
review
to
make
sure
those
are
actually
eligible
within
this
case.
Okay,
I
got
it
and
then
the
program
Administration
is.
We
would
manage
the
program
guidebook,
which
is
required
for
all
local
governments
to
have
we've.
We
also
we
collect
a
administration
fee
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars.
A
E
A
And
we
have
the
option
to
either
directly
Bill
collect
or
enforce
the.
This
is
the
enabling
legislation
do
this
ourselves,
but
in
in
our
case,
Chattanooga
will
delegate
that
responsibility
to
the
capital
provider,
because
it
is
their
responsibility
and
they
are
entirely
at
risk
for
collecting
that
funds
and
I
do
think.
It's
really
important
that
it
State
legislation
explicitly
prohibits
local
government
from
using
any
public
funds
to
repay,
see
Pacer
loans
or
to
use
its
financial
resources
on
behalf
of
the
program.
So.
C
A
A
C
A
C
C
So
if
I
owned
a
commercial
property
and
needed
to
do
upgrades
and
was
looking
for
the
option
and
I
wanted
to
invest
deeper
yep
into
more
energy,
efficient,
Roofing
or
HVAC
systems,
whatever
it
is,
then
I
for
a
person
a
person
could
be,
could
use
this
as
a
financing
option
to
councilwoman
Hills
Point.
That's.
A
A
Yes,
we
would,
and
then
we
would
likely.
You
know
we
would
say
hey.
This
is
an
appropriate
set
of
costs
and
scope
for
the
project,
and
then
we
would
refer
the
organization
or
the
property
owner
to
an
appropriate
lender,
most
likely
the
property
owners
that
would
be
looking
into
this
would
have
research
the
lenders
first,
because
we
are
not
going
to
be
doing
the
lending.
There
would
be
a
external
bank
that
will
be
doing
the
lending
we
simply
just
say.
Yes,
this
is
an
allowable
cost
and.
B
A
D
Chair,
it
just
occurs
to
me
that
you
know
a
tool
like
this
also,
it
helps
with
us
our
goals,
our
vision
for
our
our
city
in
the
future,
because
some
of
these
Technologies
are
just
new
or
harder
to
get
like
to
your
point
about
creating
an
ecosystem
of
if
there's
a
new
type
of
insulation,
for
example,
and
you've
got
to
bring
some
people
in
that
then
learn
how
to
install
that
that
adds
to
our
skill
set
in
Chattanooga
over
time.
When
maybe
we
we
need
some,
we
need
some
Vanguard
investors
in
this
space.
A
The
administration
will
be
given
that
their
this
legislation
does
require
a
public
hearing
which
we
have
noticed
and
scheduled
for
next
Tuesday.
We
have
we
have
this
on
your
agenda
for
tonight,
but
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
requesting
on
behalf
the
administration
and
deferral
until
next
week.
So
that
way
we
were
able
to
hear
the
public
hearing
and
then
proceed
with
a
vote,
a
good
idea.
Great.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank.
C
D
D
So
we've
got
some
data
that
we
can
look
at
and
then
make
some
decisions
after
that
as
to
to
whether
we
need
to
enhance
our
ordinance
or
not.
My
thought
would
be
that
if
you
all
were
comfortable
with
this
document,
that
I
mean
it
could
be
what
goes
directly
to
UTC,
and
that
is
the
extent
of
that
all
right.
Thank
you
for.
C
D
Did
not
want
to
do
that
without
having
to
brought
this
to
the
council,
sure
and-
and
it
could
be,
you
know
it
could
be-
that
we
move
forward
with
the
language
and
the
current
adjusted
ordinance,
and
then
we
bring
this
back
around
when
we
have
more
time,
because
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
research
with
the
police
department
and
things
on
mind
already
and
have
just
hit
dead
ends
everywhere.
I've
gone.
C
B
I
think
I
agree
with
the
second
suggestion,
and-
and
let
me
tell
you
why
I
think
that
the
the
car
noise,
the
the
rocket
jockeys
and
the
car
is
something
that's
may
need
other
looking
at
it's
more
of
a.
They
don't
make
noise
unless
they
speed,
but
there's
also
something
that
Jenny
brought
up
about
the
Mufflers
the
loud
kid
Mufflers
don't
even
know
if
we
want
to
get
into
that.
B
The
thing
is,
and
the
only
thing
different
in
the
ordinance
from
the
original
ordinance
was
that
we
were
extending
it
to
residential
areas,
and
so
the
only
issue
that
I've
ever
been
concerned
about
is
people
are
really
getting
bothered
by
neighbor
noise.
You
know
it's
that's
much
more
sophisticated
and
I'm
thinking
that
probably
the
best
thing
to
do
here
is
to
go
ahead
and
pass
what
Phil
came
forward
and
spend
more
time
I'm
doing
best
practices
on
this,
because.
B
Chattanooga
is
changing
and
it's
changing
all
kinds
of
ways
and
the
kinds
of
complaints
from
people
living
closer
together
are
different.
Now
and
the
police
agree
that
the
the
the
the
ways
they
measure
noise
don't
really
work
now
all
right.
The
other
thing
is
which
came
again
from
the
police,
which
I
think
it
really
makes
good
sense.
B
B
We
don't
need
to
wait
four
weeks
just
go
ahead
forward
with
it
and
then
take
some
time
to
look
at
this
other
thing
and
the
only
question
or
concern
I
would
have
about
that.
Is
with
budget
coming
up
and
I've
already
I've
already
told
Jenny
this
we've
already
talked
was
I.
Think
there's
money
in
the
budget
to
do
it
and
start
it
now
and
I.
Just
don't
know
what
the.
D
B
D
F
D
C
B
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
we'll
need
Nicole
is
budget
as
a
whole,
because
each
one
of
us
has
six
thousand
dollars
to
spend.
We
haven't
spent
it.
So
if
I'm
going
to
make
requests
to
kind
of
move
things
around
in
the
budget
which
we
can
do,
it's
all
interdepartmental,
then
all
of
those
kind
of
tie
together.
Okay,.
C
So
the
question
I
think
at
hand
is
or
does
council
have
any
objection
to
having
councilman
Hill
move
forward
with
reaching
out
to
Dr
Acuff
and
starting
the
process
and
assigning
the
restrictions
or
guide
rails.
If
you
will
on
the
scope
of
work
that
we'd
like
to
see
and
ongoing
I
keep
a
work
in
progress
to
the
noise
ordinance.
G
Feel
you're
able
to
give
us
any
of
this
information
or
pull
up
any
research.
That
Jenny
is
asking
maybe
for
UTC
to
research,
because
if
we
can
get
you
to
do
it
because
I
know
you
all
pulling
stuff
and
what
I've
really
seen
is
in
the
research
that
Acuff
does
with
UTC.
He
really
come
back
and
tell
us
the
same
thing
that
we've
been
wanting
to
do
or
I
guess
he
just
reconfirming
or
affirming
what
we
already
say.
So
is
he
the
only
Professor
that
we
can
contract
with
to
say,
do
studying
it?
G
G
So
it
can
be
anybody
not
specifically
just
Chris
Aiko
all
right,
because
I
like
to
you
know,
recommend
Dr,
Marcus
Mauldin,
maybe
to
look
at
some
of
our
stuff
that
we're
submitting
if
it's
decide
on
whatever
studies
that
we
present
to
get
a
different
perspective,
a
different
set
of
eyes.
I
know
that
we
probably
used
to
just
using
Chris
Acuff,
but
I.
Think
I
would
like
for
us
to
start
using
some
different
professors
and
some
of
the
research.
G
If
we
can't
get
anything
concrete
back
from
our
attorney
office,
then
okay
yeah,
it
makes
sense,
but
we've
been
kind
of
talking
about
this
noise,
ordinance
and
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
for
our.
This
is
my
second
term
on
Council,
so
we
we've
been
kind
of
talking
about
it
back
and
forth,
changing
some
things
implementing
some
new
things
and
for
me,
when
we
all
have
said
that
you
know
our
Chattanooga
is
changing.
G
Communities
are
changing,
neighborhoods
are
looking
different,
but
it's
it's
a
little
pettiness
in
it
too,
because
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
people
don't
even
want
you
to
talk
outside
your
house
a
little
bit
and
it's
kind
of
frustrating
even
watch
and
see
because
for
some
neighborhoods
they
want
the
Mufflers
to
come
through.
They
want
to
see
the
motorcycle
motorcycles
come
through
and
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
in
our
neighborhoods,
particularly
five,
seven
eight
and
nine
we've
been
living
with
noise.
E
D
D
Yes,
we
can
do
that,
but
I
wonder
is
that
the
best
use
of
his
time
when
we
have
a
research
contract
and
if
not,
do
we
need
to
within
our
budget
start
looking
at
a
person
that
works
on
policy
research
for
our
city
council,
because
this
is
something
that
we
we
need
help
with
to
come
up
with
ideas?
Beyond.
Yes,
it's
legal!
No,
it's
not,
but
these
are
things
that
it's
really
helpful:
to
be
able
to
have
a
body
of
research
done
by
by
someone
other
than
just
the
people
on
this
Council.
H
Brought
it
to
this
meeting,
because
I
hadn't
seen
it
before
today,
if
you
want
us
to
provide
information
that
other
cities
in
Tennessee
have
adopted
here,
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
resources
that
we
can
rely
upon
from
the
municipal
attorneys
across
the
state.
We
also
have
the
ability
to
contact
mtas
to
be
able
to
get
information
from
the
municipal
technical
advisory
service
here
in
the
state.
D
What
I'd
like
to
have
is
not
just
that,
but
I
want
to
have
that.
Okay,
so
they
passed
that
what
happened,
then
you
know
we've
we
have
a
noise
ordinance
and
within
that
noise
ordinance
it
says
excessive
operation
of
vehicles
like
hypothetically
or
in
writing.
This
problem
that
exists
in
in
our
city
shouldn't
exist
because
it's
in
our
ordinance
that
it's
not
allowed
right,
but
obviously
it
hasn't
something's,
not
quite
right.
So
it's
more
than
just
a
list
of
things
but
of
an
analysis
and
study
of
what
worked
and
what
didn't
work
within.
H
B
G
Where
I
reached
out
to
Hannah
all
the
time
and
she
provide
research
information
and
more
in-depth
to
your
questions,
if
you
just
send
it
to
her
I
just
didn't
want
to
be
put
on
the
Shelf,
because
we
don't
have
it
in
our
budget
to
do
and
I
do.
Second,
what
should
be
saying
is
that
we
got
we
picking
things
about
what
we
want
to
study
and
a
lot
of
times
more
than
several
times.
C
C
B
H
B
H
C
We
will
move
on
with
that
other
business.
We
have
something
to
do
with
several
presentations
next
week.
We
will
talk
about
that
later.
Council
election
of
officers
is
slated
for
next
week.
That
time
of
the
year
has
come
upon
us.
We
do
not
have
any
pending
legislative
matters
at
this
time
to
report,
we
do
have
a
department
report.
C
C
H
G
One
question:
yes:
ma'am,
not
everybody
have
been
seeing
the
news
of
what's
been
happening
in
Nashville
with
the
recent
shooting
but
I'm
concerned.
Now
about
our
y
of
D
sites.
We've
had
and
specifically
in
my
district,
there
has
been
you
know,
shootings
guns
and
so
on
and
so
forth
that
have
been
reported.
It's
you
all
can
look
at
it
yourself,
but
what
do
we
have
in
place?
G
That's
protecting
our
community
centers
like
are
there
science,
things
that
say
no
guns
on
property
or
their
you
know,
are
our
staff
trained
in
case
somebody
do
come
in
and
have
a
gun
now
I'm,
not
saying
that
you
know
I'm
against
anybody.
No,
you
know
no
guns,
I,
don't
want
you
to
be
supportive
of
your
second
amendment
rights,
but
what
I'm
saying
is:
how
can
we
safely
protect
our
websites,
the
people
that.
E
G
C
D
A
Comes
on
the
hill
I
think
it's
a
great
point.
So
our
the
same
Executive
Security,
Police
Department,
that
has
you've
seen
here
on
Tuesdays,
has
just
recently
concluded
an
active
shooter
training
with
all
Community
developments.
Now,
oh
great,
so
we
are
taking
this
experience
seriously.
They're
going
to
be
conducting
a
security
assessments
of
all
of
our
community
centers
and
again
we're
you
know
reviewing
the
governor's
proposal
that
just
came
off
his
budget
as
well
to
see
if
there
are
additional
resources,
we've
had
it
as
well,
but
yeah
we
we
are.
I
Paying
close
attention
to
obviously
the
environment
and
also
making
sure
our
staff
have
the
training
may
need.
Unfortunately,
in
this
day
and
age,
it's
necessary
yeah,
nobody
from
CPD,
including
our
strategic
player,
just
to
show
up,
but
with
the
community
centers
salway's
a
spiking
crime
when
there's
a
break
and
and
the
school
year
and
proactively.
What
we
do
is
we
make
sure
the
police
department
knows
to
be
at
the
community
center
like
the
end
of
the
year
or
doing
the
spring
break
of
fall
break
so
I.
C
G
G
G
H
G
Other
door
can
you
get
out
of
that's
safe
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
cameras
are
working,
and
you
know
it's
just
so
much
that
I
think
can
we
can
use
or
do
to
put
in
place
like
I.
Just
don't
want
any
of
our
Lives
to
be
lost
because
we
fail
to
put
in
precautions
or
to
do
anything.
Yes,
sir
I
would
like
to
you
know
see
if
we
can
take
some
time.
C
C
That
will
be
up
to
a
new
chair
person
after
today,
so
after
next
Tuesday,
so
I
would
like
to
Echo,
though
my
my
support
for
that
in
councilman,
funeral
and
and
looking
at
that
sooner
than
later
right
much
sooner
than
later,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
know
it's
a
concern
for
all
of
us,
any
other
comments
or
questions
and
strategic
planning.