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Description
Chesterfield County hosted this in-person and virtual community meeting to review the FY23 proposed budget with the Board of Supervisors and county budget administrators. Matoaca District Supervisor Kevin Carroll was joined by County Administrator Dr. Joe Casey, Director of Budget and Management Gerard Durkin and Matoaca District School Board Representative Ryan Harter for this presentation.
A
Good
evening,
I'm
dave
good
constituent
services
administrator
for
chesterfield.
In
a
moment,
I'm
going
to
introduce
our
guest
or
excuse
me
our
host
for
this
evening,
but
before
I
do
I'd
like
to
go
over
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
related
to
the
format
of
the
meeting.
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
fifth
and
final
budget
town
hall
being
hosted
by
each
of
our
border
supervisor.
A
Members
tonight's
meeting
is
being
of
course
held
here
in
the
public
meeting
room
with
in-person
guests,
but
also
being
held
virtually
via
facebook
live,
so
we
also
have
an
audience
viewing
from
home.
The
meeting
is
also
being
streamed
on
the
county's
youtube
channel,
as
well
as
through
chesterfield
television,
which
is
available
on
comcast
98
and
verizon
28.
A
in
the
back
of
the
room.
There's
a
signum
sign
in
sheet.
If
anybody
can
is
here
in
person,
if
they
would,
please
leave
us
your
name
and
some
contact
information,
we'll
be
glad
to
add
you
to
our
list
to
continue
sending
you
information
about
meetings
like
this
and
many
other
things,
but
again
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
if
you're
in
the
audience
tonight
and
you'd.
A
Like
to
come
up
and
make
a
comment
or
ask
a
question,
I
would
ask
that
you
come
up
to
the
same
mic
that
I'm
at
right
now,
so
that
everybody
who
is
here
and
all
of
those
at
home
can
hear
you
and
see
you
clearly
if
you're
tuning
in
via
facebook
live,
you
can
simply
go
to
the
comments,
feed
and
add
your
comment
or
question
with
that.
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
host,
who
is
none
other
than
the
honorable
kevin
carroll,
the
matuka
district
supervisor?
Thank
you.
B
B
I
certainly
appreciate
your
taking
an
interest
in
the
county
and
in
the
budget
process
and
giving
your
input
as
we
move
forward
tonight
with
me
up
here,
you'll
see
doc
to
my
left,
dr
joe
casey,
our
county
administrator,
and
to
my
right,
mr
gerard
duncan
durkin,
our
director
of
budget,
is
that
right,
dinner
all
right
and
management
and
then
also
ryan
harder,
who
is
the
motoka
representative
in
chesterfield
county
for
the
for
the
school
board.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
B
Tonight's
meeting
is
but
one
way
to
engage
with
the
chest
field.
On
the
proposed
budget,
I
and
my
fellow
board
members
are
scheduled
to
hold
a
hearing
on
march
23rd
tomorrow
night
prior
to
adopting
the
balanced
budget,
which
should
be
sometime
in
either
early
april
or
late
april,
depending
on
you
know
my
opinion
and
what
the
state
does
with
their
budget.
B
I
believe
that
this
proposed
budget
reflects
our
efforts
to
remain
focused
on
long-term
goals,
while
also
placing
an
emphasis
on
on
a
tax
relief
across
the
board.
You
know
last
year
when
we,
when
we
talked
about
taxes,
one
of
the
requests
that
I
had
moving
forward
into
this
year
is
that
we
would
do
an
across-the-board
look
at
how
we
actually
tax
the
people
in
chesterfield
county,
and
so
we've
we've
really
done
that
this
year.
B
B
Obviously,
last
year,
the
housing
market
for
lack
of
a
better
term
had
a
very
robust
an
up
up
year
to
the
tune,
quite
frankly
that
we
added
six
billion
dollars
to
the
land
book
value
in
chesterfield,
county
and
houses
were
actually
selling
site.
Unseen
people
were
putting
bids
in
on
houses
without
even
seeing
them
and
they
were
bidding
wars,
and
this
certainly
drove
up
the
assessed
value
of
the
residents
and
in
commercial
property
in
chesterfield
county,
and
we
kept
an
eye
on
that.
B
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
carroll
and
good
evening.
Everybody
the
fiscal
year,
2023
budget,
that
is
before
the
board
of
supervisors
coalesces,
are
in
the
four
key
areas
that
you
see
on
the
side
before
you,
our
historic
investment
in
our
school
system,
employee
recruitment
and
retention,
the
540
million
dollar
bond
referendum
that
mr
cowell
has
referenced,
and
also
the
broad
tax
relief
program,
the
largest
that
we've
had
in
the
county's
history.
C
I
will
talk
about
the
real
estate
and
personal
property
in
a
second,
but
I
do
want
to
draw
attention
to
the
final
bullets
on
the
list.
There,
the
personal
property
tax
exemption
for
vehicles.
We
have
increased
from
a
thousand
to
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
The
first
amendment
to
that
program
since
1998.
C
C
So
the
chart
before
you
is
a
kind
of
short
history
of
our
real
estate
rate.
As
mr
cow
reference,
we've
had
a
robust
real
estate
market
in
the
county
over
the
last
year,
but
that's
not
a
unique
phenomenon.
Just
to
us.
It
has
been
happening
nationwide
recognizing
the
impact
of
those
assessments
of
the
board
earlier
this
year
set
the
maximum
tax
rate
at
93
cents,
and
the
proposed
budget
that
is
now
before
them
was
able
to
take
another
penny
off
to
92
cents.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
do
when
we
build
a
budget
every
year
is
feed
all
of
our
revenues
through
a
five-year
plan
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
adjustments
are
sustainable
through
that
five-year
rate
period,
and
you
can
see
also
that
the
reduction
that's
proposed
is
in
line
with
what
we
did
back
in
the
2007
a
era.
The
main
difference
being
this
time
is
that
you
know
we're
not
seeing
a
bubble
on
the
horizon.
National
forecasters
are
seeing
or
are
forecasting.
C
C
So
the
december
action,
as
I
said,
increased
that
threshold
from
a
thousand
dollars
to
1500
for
personal
property
tax
relief,
14
300
vehicles
no
longer
pay
that
tax
as
a
result
of
that
action,
but
also
recognizing
that
personal
property
values
have
been
increasing
and
we
did
explore
ways
of
providing
relief
for
this
june's
personal
property
tax
bills,
and
what
you
can
see
in
the
chart
before
is
a
history
of
personal
property
tax
relief.
I
was
a
program
instituted
by
the
state.
C
We
have
received
the
same
amount
to
relieve
personal
property
bills
since
the
inception
of
this
program
about
41
million
dollars
a
year
as
the
population
in
the
county
has
grown
and
more
vehicles
are
in
there.
The
percentage
that's
been
able
to
be
relieved
off
of
people's
personal
property.
Tax
bills
has
lowered
over
time,
as
you
can
see
on
that
chart.
C
C
C
C
So
the
fiscal
year
2023
budget
is
expected
to
increase
by
about
98
million
dollars
or
just
a
little
over
12
recognizing
that
that
is
a
larger
than
increase
than
normal.
I'm
going
to
take
a
few
minutes
to
kind
of
break
down.
What's
driving
that
increase
and
first
you
can
see
on
the
left
of
the
chart,
the
largest
bucket
is
our
investment
in
the
workforce.
C
Additionally,
our
proactive
approach
with
the
public
safety
pay
plan
and
pay
structure.
The
markets
actually
moved
again
with
our
regional
competitors,
especially
in
regard
to
starting
salaries.
The
budget
that
now
therefore
proposes
an
additional
12
and
a
half
million
dollars
across
the
public
safety
agencies
to
ensure
that
our
pay
remains
competitive
in
the
region.
C
Secondly,
we've
made
some
great
strides
with
our
capital
improvement
program
over
the
last
few
years,
especially
in
the
arena
of
major
maintenance
as
service
demands
grow
and
our
facilities
age,
and
we
are
increasing
our
investments
in
major
maintenance,
as
well
as
a
variety
of
projects
around
the
county
and
we'll
go
into
the
referendum
a
little
bit
later.
But
this
capital
improvement
program
also
does
include
one-time
expenditures.
C
You
can
see
there
for
about
13.4
million
dollars,
which
does
include
an
upgrade
to
our
financial
system,
as
well
as
shared
with
shared
warehouse
facilities
with
schools,
speaking
of
skills,
and
this
budget
proposes
and
increases
a
set
of
18
million
dollar
transfer,
which
have
helped
them
achieve
many
of
their
goals
and
as
a
part
of
our
fiscal
year,
2021
year-end
results.
The
county
did
make
a
one-time
infusion
of
27
million
dollars
into
the
school's
supplemental
retirement
program,
which
freed
up
about
12
million
a
year
in
recurring,
operating
dolls
so
effectively.
C
C
So
employee
compensation,
the
23
budget
that
is
before
the
board,
really
approaches
a
kind
of
a
252
phase
for
general
government
employees.
General
government
employees
received
two
percent
back
in
february
and
some
employees
will
go
to
and
you
can
have
12
to
16
dollar
minimum
pay
structure
or
a
5
flat
adjustment
this
starting
in
july
and
then
with
an
additional
increase
of
about
2
in
next
february.
C
We
will
continue
with
the
step
increases
to
avoid
compression
creeping
back
into
our
public
safety
agencies,
as
well
as
awaiting
the
final
results
of
the
public
safety
study,
which
will
ensure
that
our
starting
salaries
align
with
our
new
regional
minimums,
and
then
we
couldn't
achieve
everything
that
we
wanted
to
achieve
in
fiscal
year,
23's
budget.
So
we
are
looking
at
doing
a
phase
two
of
that
as
part
of
our
fiscal
2024
budget
development.
C
So,
as
I
said,
we
have
about
7.6
million
dollars
in
general
fund
enhancements
and
you
can
see
they're
kind
of
covering
five
areas
of
the
organization,
our
continued
commitment
to
public
safety.
One
of
examples
that
we
have
in
there
is
an
expansion
of
the
police
service
aid
program
are
currently
19
positions.
This
five-year
plan
proposes
adding
an
additional
three
per
year,
strengthen
our
infrastructure
and
facilities.
C
As
I
said,
we
have
many
more
facilities
coming
online
over
the
next
few
years,
so
we
do
have
increased
staffing
levels
in
our
building
and
grounds
covering
kind
of
custodial,
hvac
maintenance
and
full-time
trade
positions
in
quality
of
life
and
last
year,
as
part
of
our
fiscal
year
2022
budget,
we
did
increase
park,
staffing
in
the
parks
and
recreation
athletic
field
crew.
This
budget
continues
that
with
an
additional
three
positions
in
fiscal
23
and
24,
and
also
continues
the
part-time
to
full-time
conversion
ratio
in
our
library
system.
C
Emphasis
on
customer
service,
some
examples
that
we
have
there
will
be
the
introduction
of
a
taxpayer
portal
where
businesses
and
residencies
can
go
and
look
at
the
bills
online
and
submit
returns
as
well.
Some
additional
positions
in
communications
in
media
to
enhance
our
outreach
and
engage
more
proactively
with
the
community
in
that
kind
of
two-way
dialogue,
as
well
as
some
staffing
enhancements
to
our
treasurer's
office
and
then
finally,
some
investments
in
support
services.
One
of
the
things
I'll
point
out
here
is
investment
in
our
employee
medical
center.
C
C
There
was
about
just
under
a
quarter
of
a
billion
dollars
in
unfunded
capital,
requests
that
weren't
able
to
fund
over
the
course
of
the
five-year
plan,
including
you
can
see.
There
are
some
vehicles
for
police,
additional
park
sites,
fire
stations
and
facility
buildings
for
the
sheriff,
and,
as
always,
we
publish
in
our
document
the
list
of
unfunded
transportation
projects
around
the
county.
C
So
developing
the
fiscal
2023
budget,
even
with
the
last
couple
of
years,
is
actually
many
unknowns.
We
faced
while
developing
this
budget,
we've
had
some
significant
labor
market
fluctuations
and
we've
had
inflationary
pressures,
as
I'm
sure
you're
all
aware,
and
then,
of
course,
the
geopolitical
unrest
which,
if
it
continues
on,
is
forecasted
to
have
a
deleterious
impact
on
the
inflationary
scene
over
the
next
year,
or
so.
That
being
said,
the
budget
that
is
before
the
board
has
been
developed.
C
With
some
flexibility
in
mind,
we
do
have
some
sizable
increase
in
paygo
or
another
way
of
putting
a
cash
contribution
to
our
cip.
That
does
include
funding
for
a
new
district
enhancement
program
and
seed
money
to
kind
of
jump
start
on
the
referendum
projects
in
terms
of
design
and
acquisition
and
engineering.
C
I
said
earlier,
we
do
have
that
merit
adjustment
in
the
budget
for
february
of
two
percent,
and
then
we
fund
our
long-term
liability
contributions.
Each
year
we
have
in
the
budget
above
what
the
minimums
are
just
to
ensure
that
we
retain
a
high
level
of
funded
status,
and
then
we
also
have
a
conservative
approach
to
state
and
personal
property
tax
collections.
As
mr
carl
referenced,
you
know
the
still
law
of
uncertainty
at
the
state
level.
C
C
C
You
can
see
that
when
the
recession
hit
that
spending
declined,
it
has
started
to
creep
up
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
it's
still
not
at
that
average
level
and
if
you
go
back
further
we're
effectively
operating
in
1992
levels.
It
really
is
a
testament
to
the
and
commitment
to
maximizing
taxpayer
dollars,
while
continuing
to
maintain
the
higher
levels
of
service
that
our
citizens
demand
and
expect.
C
Then
it's
going
to
similar
chart
here
for
schools.
It
can
fall
as
a
similar
trend
to
the
county
and
that
when
the
recession
hit
that
spending
went
down,
it
started
to
go
up,
as
you
can
see
kind
of
faster
clip
than
the
county
in
the
last
few
years.
But
it's
still
not
back
to
that
post
recession
average.
I
would
like
to
point
out.
C
This
is
actually
based
on
a
local
contribution
to
the
school
system,
but
at
this
time
of
year-
and
we
always
talk
about
the
transfer
to
schools
and
what
it's
increasing
by,
but
you
know
budgeting,
they
can
have
a
year-round
exercise
and
we
do
provide
support
for
our
school
system
in
many
ways.
As
I
said,
we
have
that
18
million
dollar
increase
in
this
proposed
budget
with
the
cash
infusion
to
our
srp
supplemental
retirement
program.
That
is
an
effective
increase
of
28
million
dollars.
C
There
are
some
actions
that
we've
taken,
especially
in
operating
capital
and
one-time
funds,
and
when
we
had
to
reduce
our
budget
in
fiscal
year
21
because
of
covered,
we
were
actually
able
to
still
increase
the
transfer
to
schools
by
10
million
dollars,
despite
reducing
the
overall
county
budget
by
51
million
dollars.
Last
year
we
had
an
18
million
dollar
transfer
increase
to
the
school
system
on
the
capital
side.
You
know
the
county
aggressively
took
the
opportunity
to
refinance
outstanding
debt
with
the
low
interest
rate
environment.
C
We
were
able
to
do
some
stuff
for
schools,
because
of
that
you
can
see
the
58
million
dollars
for
major
maintenance
that
we're
able
to
do
in
fall
of
2020,
the
largest
infusion
that
we've
made
into
schools
major
maintenance.
Last
month
we
had
closed
on
the
virginia
public
school
authority.
Bonds
actually
allowed
us
to
accelerate
two
middle
school
acceleration
projects.
C
I
said
earlier.
We
do
have
12
million
dollars
and
eight
million
dollars
in
our
capital
improvement
program
for
our
financial
system,
as
well
as
a
joint
warehouse.
Those
are
both
projects
that
the
schools
will
take
part
in
that
the
county
is
solely
funding
at
100
and
with
the
recent
land
purchases
that
we
have
made
at
spring,
rock
green
and
upper
magnolia
potential
future
sites
for
school
facilities.
We
have
paid
for
that
over
a
year
in
surpluses
with
no
ask
of
the
school
system,
then.
Finally,
you
can
see
the
bottom
three
points
down
there.
C
C
We
are
proposing
to
build
four
new
police
stations
around
the
county,
which
actually
have
the
added
benefit
of
getting
us
out
of
some
operating
leases,
which
will
enable
us
to
reinvest
those
funds
and
operations
for
the
county
and
then
for
parks,
and
we
will
continue
with
our
enhancements
to
ever
city
that
has
generated
a
lot
of
sports
tourism
revenue
and
had
a
positive
impact
in
the
region
in
the
last
few
years.
There
are
some
boat
launches
at
fallen,
creek
in
james
river
and
also
a
development
of
a
softball
complex
at
horner
park
as
well.
C
Those
are
the
same
rates
for
fiscal
year
22,
so
even
with
our
numbers
being
a
year
ahead
a
year
ahead
on
that
chart,
we
are
still
the
lowest
in
the
region,
and
with
that
this
is
the
final
public
meeting
for
this
budget
season.
Tomorrow
we
will
have
the
public
hearing
on
the
budget
and
cip
with
adoption,
hopefully
by
april
6th.
B
C
Sure-
and
the
first
question
we
received
is
what
can
be
done
to
reduce
the
debt
service
costs
from
approximately
a
thousand
dollars
per
student?
Can
repayment
of
debt
be
accelerated?
You
know
it's
part
of
you
know.
The
county
is
one
of
the
few
localities
in
the
nation
that
has
the
kind
of
gold
standard
of
bond
ratings
that
kind
of
triple
triple
a
rating.
D
Mr
durkin,
if
you
could
just
clarify
too
the
one
thousand
per
student
it
versus
the
one
thousand
per
maybe
citizen,
that
they
were
referencing,
so
I
think
you
know
we
just
have
to
do
our
denominator.
They
were
using
was
for
students,
but
we
typically
refer
our
debt
service
policies
on
per
capita.
Yes,.
C
The
part
of
the
allocation
that
we
had
received
as
part
of
the
american
rescue
plan
act
does
include
four
million
dollars
to
devote
to
accelerating
affordable
housing
projects
around
the
county.
In
addition
to
this
kind
of
one-time
use
of
federal
funds,
the
department
of
community
enhancement
and
does
devote
its
efforts
to
affordable
housing
through
the
community
development
block,
grant
and
housing
opportunities
made
equal
programs
year-round.
B
B
E
Good
evening
ryan,
joe
kevin
gerard,
I
should
tell
you
that
I
was
leaving
the
meeting
yesterday
and
a
group
of
the
pta
parents
were
saying
what
a
great
accent
you
had
and
they
said
that
they'd
be
willing
to
listen
to
you
say
anything,
so
you
have
a
you,
have
a
significant
fan
base
just
just
be
warned:
I'm
ben
pearson,
nelson,
I'm
president
of
the
chesterfield
county
council,
parent
teacher
associations,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
that
association.
We
have
more
than
8
000
members
in
chesterfield
county.
E
We
have
close
to
200
officers
who
serve
our
community.
The
mission
of
the
pta
is
to
make
every
child's
potential
a
reality
by
engaging
and
empowering
families
and
communities
to
advocate
for
all
children.
Almost
all
of
our
members
work
full
time
and
are
raising
kids,
so
it's
difficult
for
them
to
get
to
public
meetings.
E
So,
on
your
behalf,
we've
collected
petition
signatures
and
public
comments
to
help
inform
your
decision
about
increasing
school
funding.
Currently
I
have
127
signatures
and
comments
from
your
constituents
in
matoka
and
I
will
email
those
to
you.
After
this
meeting
on
february
16th,
our
pta
officers
voted
to
support
the
superintendent's
needs-based
budget.
E
To
be
clear,
we
did
not
vote
to
approve
this
budget
because
it
meets
the
goals
of
our
association.
Rather,
we
voted
to
support
this
budget
because
it's
the
least
we
can
do
to
support
the
education
of
our
children.
A
needs-based
budget
is
meant
to
help
our
schools
survive,
but
not
to
help
our
students
thrive.
E
E
Even
if
the
superintendent's
needs
based
budget
is
fully
approved,
our
kids
will
remain
in
last
place.
Many
of
our
members
and
officers
are
frustrated
and
burned
out.
From
the
last
two
years,
our
teachers
report
increased
disciplinary
problems,
lower
math
and
reading
scores
and
greater
mentor
mental
health
needs.
While
our
needs
have
increased
over
our
needs
have
increased.
The
resources
we
have
next
year
will
be
reduced.
E
Our
greatest
concern
is
the
dramatic
increase
in
our
loss
of
teachers.
We
currently
have
around
200
openings
for
teachers
in
chesterfield
county,
we'll
need
to
hire
an
additional
700
teachers
this
summer
to
cover
our
classes.
For
next
year
we
are
directly
competing
with
henrico
and
other
regional
school
districts
for
a
small
pool
of
teachers.
E
E
The
good
news
is,
we
know
how
to
solve
this
problem,
the
increase
in
wages
for
both
bus
drivers
and
substitute
teachers,
which
you
helped
with
demonstrated
that
people
respond
to
the
positive
reinforcement
of
being
paid.
Well,
we
ask
that
teachers
be
paid
like
the
professionals
they
are
so
that
we
can
stop
the
brain
drain
from
our
schools.
E
Local
tax
revenues
are
an
all-time
high,
so
we
can
finally
make
this
investment.
We
can
pay
our
teachers
what
they
deserve
and
we
can
get
our
kids
out
of
last
place
for
funding
and
the
other
good
piece.
The
other
piece
of
good
news
is
that
the
citizens
of
chesterfield
support
significantly
increasing
education
spending.
E
If
you
recall
the
last
time,
we
did
a
petition
drive,
we
collected
over
8
000
signatures
from
chesterfield
residents.
That
said,
they
wanted
our
schools
fully
funded.
This
year
we
have
collected
close
to
a
thousand
signatures
from
chesterfield
residents,
asking
the
board
of
supervisors
to
fully
fund
our
schools
kevin.
We're
asking
that
you
advocate
for
us
advocate
for
our
parents,
our
teachers
and
our
children
advocate
for
our
community.
B
F
Else
good
evening,
gentlemen,
ladies,
my
name
is
fred
demay,
I'm
from
the
matauka
district.
I've
attended
a
few
of
the
meetings,
so
I'm
now
pretty
well
informed.
I
just
like
to
take
a
quick
second
here,
though,
to
thank
ms
haines
for
giving
me
some
information
yesterday
at
the
midlothian
meeting
and
clarify
a
couple
of
my
questions
and
I'd
also
like
to
commend
miss
haley
for
her
discussion
yesterday
on
the
eight
and
a
half
million
difference
and
the
issues
that
the
county
is
looking
at
to
try
and
build
a
sustainable
budget.
F
Mr
durkin,
you
mentioned
it's
40-year
high
plus,
so
we're
under
a
lot
of
stress
everybody's
under
a
lot
of
stress,
and
I
believe
that
what
you're
doing
and
going
about
this
is
is
the
right
way
to
go.
We
need
to
see
some
tax
relief
out
here
and,
interestingly
enough,
I
had
written
an
email
to
the
five
school
board
members.
This
was
prior
to
seeing
dr
casey's
proposal
for
another
one
cent
cut,
which
I
strongly
recommend
and
urge
you
to
to
do
asking
school
board
members
to
consider
a
two
cent
reduction.
F
F
F
We
faced
compression
where
I
work
trying
to
hire
new
hires
that
come
in
within
a
few
dollars.
People
have
been
working
20
years,
it's
a
bad
situation,
but
I
believe
the
county
and
school
system
has
gone
about
trying
to
address
that
fairly
well.
But
the
second
issue
that
I
heard
from
people
was:
they
were
very
concerned
about
the
policies
of
the
school
board
and
the
school
system
we
saw
some
pretty
pretty
big
problems
occur
things
with
covid
and
beyond
that
we
had
the
masking
issues.
F
But
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
just
give
an
example
of
several
years
ago.
There
was
a
big
issue.
Some
special
interests
wanted
to
change
the
bus
routes,
change
the
number
of
buses
and
it
was
back
and
forthing
with
this,
and
eventually
they
decided
to
do
it.
I
believe
that
was
a
was
a
poor
decision.
F
People
talked
about
things
like
circadian
rhythms
and
stuff.
Oh,
you
know
yeah,
that's
all
well
and
good,
but
children
were
getting
up.
You
know,
since
the
crack
of
dawn
for
thousands
of
years,
so
I
don't
know
that
that
was
enough
to
re-do
that
whole
system,
which
added
considerable
cost
it
added
school
bus
drivers
and
it
added
a
lot
of
consternation
to
a
lot
of
people
in
the
county,
because
it
was
upsetting
child
care
and
this
and
that
now
does
the
school
system
have
you
know
an
obligation
for
child
care?
No,
no.
F
F
I
think
it
was
diane
smith
was
chairman
of
the
school
board
and
I
had
lobbied
her
at
one
of
these
public
meetings
to
consider
dropping
her
seven
year
requirement
for
building
new
schools,
setting
it
back
to
maybe
nine
or
ten,
and
at
that
time,
saving
the
the
county
from
having
to
raise
the
tax
rate
she
did
so.
I
think
that
there's
a
precedent
of
good
management
in
the
school
system.
F
I
just
believe
that,
right
now,
with
the
situation
that
we're
in
with
the
finances
here
and
and
the
the
moving
inflation,
the
high
cost
of
fuel,
that
what
you're
doing
on
the
county
side
is
a
very
prudent
and,
as
ms
haley
said,
sustainable
approach,
the
ballot
to
to
putting
forth
a
balanced
budget.
So
I
would
strongly
urge
you
to
go
with
the
county's
budget
as
it
is
now,
including
the
one
sent,
because
this
affects
all
the
taxpayers
and
we
certainly
do
need
a
break.
Now.
F
I
mean
nobody
can
deny
what's
happening
in
the
economy
and
I
certainly
want
to
commend
dr
casey
and
and
his
staff
for
combing
through
this
budget
and
finding
a
number
of
areas
where
they
could
economize
and
they
could
reduce
the
rates.
They've
done
a
good
job.
Mr
carroll,
I
would
strongly
ask
you
to
pass
the
budget
as
they
have
thank.
B
D
D
You
know
if
there's
an
essentiality
to
a
project
and
there
and
again
a
school
needed
with
there's
overcrowding,
a
police
precinct
where
we
need
to
strategically
locate
one
the
rules
of
virginia
right
now
is
you
can
access
state
funding,
perhaps
at
a
higher
interest
rate?
That's
why
we
do
bond
referendums
also
is
to
access
the
lowest
triple
triple
a
bond
rated
rate.
D
You
have
to
basically
wait
three
years
for
the
financing,
so
all
things
considered,
we
would
have
to
go
into
a
very
strategic
mode
to
re-prioritize
the
entire
referendum
list
and
see
what
we
would
come
out
of
the
box
with
in
three
years
for
refinancing
and
what
cash
we
could
put
forth
initially
to
get
certain
things
started
that
were
completely
essential.
Having
said
that,
again,
I'm
a
county
administrator,
you
know
I
defer
to
border
supervisors
of
the
will
of
the
people
and
what
they
want
or
don't
want.
D
B
You,
sir,
the
demand
indicators
report
shows
cosby
high
school
will
be
150
percent
over
capacity
by
2026
as
a
new
high
school
in
the
referendum,
and
is
the
timeline
for
that
high
school
established.
So
I
think
that
if
you've
been
following
the
news,
you
will
see
that
we
have
this
zoning
case
upper
magnolia
east
in
the
upper
mag
east
case.
B
I
will
say
initially
the
concept
was
to
put
three
schools
in
a
school
campus
and
a
library,
and
that
would
have
been
an
elementary
school,
a
middle
school
and
a
high
school
and
a
new
public
library.
We
desperately
need
in
that
area
because
of
overcrowding
at
the
middle
schools,
a
reliever
for
tomahawk,
and
so
the
county's
moved
forward,
and
I
think
it
was
earlier
in
the
program
we
showed
that
we've
issued
bonds
to
136
million
dollars.
B
And
so,
when
you
looked
at
the
numbers,
the
decision
was
made
that
we
need
to
move
the
high
school
somewhere
else,
that
the
capacity
would
be
okay
for
the
roads
for
the
middle
school,
elementary
school
and
public
library,
and
so
we
have
land
and
the
west
side
of
the
upper
mag
west
piece
that
we
will
be
able
to
find
a
spot
if
necessary,
to
put
a
new
high
school.
But
there's
some
other
measures
that
are
the
county
is
taking
place
right
now,
actually
to
kind
of
relieve
some
of
those
issues.
B
Finally,
which
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
we've
actually
tried
to
find
other
locations
to
do
this,
but
that
will
allow
for
the
school
system
to
look
at
repurposing
of
all
of
ctc
hull,
not
necessarily
putting
it
as
a
high
school.
But
there
are
other
programs-
and
I
think
ryan
can
speak
to
that
in
a
minute
if
you
like
that,
would
help
relieve
some
of
the
capacity
at
some
of
the
other
schools.
B
G
But
we
still
do
know
that
you
know
our
projected
enrollment
is
still
going
to
continue
to
increase
in
the
in
the
western
corridor.
So
a
high
school
is
on.
As
mr
carroll
said,
we
looked
at
a
number
of
different
locations,
we're
still
working
through
that.
Where
would
be
a
good
place
originally
putting
all
three
schools
on
the
same
site
would
have
been
ideal,
but
it
just
doesn't
look
like
it's
going
to
work
out
that
way,
but
a
high
school
out
there
in
the
western
part
of
of
batoka
is
definitely
on
our
radar.
G
We
also
have
for
high
school
students.
We
have
ccps
online.
That's
been
a
program
for
over
10
years
in
the
county,
where
it's
almost
self-paced
modules,
with
some
teacher
support
where
students,
if
they
want
to
work
ahead
or
you
know
to
do
some
more
advanced
work-
are
able
to
do
that.
But
we
were
never
able
to
get
that
down
to
our
middle
school
or
even
to
our
elementary.
G
But
we
know
that
even
with
creating
this
new
school
we're
still
seeing
some
of
our
schools
that
are
stressed
like
cosby,
on
tomahawk,
creek
and
bailey
bridge
and
manchester.
So
but
yes,
by
freeing
up
the
top
part
of
ctc
whole,
we'll
definitely
be
able
to
accommodate
roughly
about
a
thousand
kids
that
want
to
participate
in
that
technical
program.
B
Now,
to
get
back
to
the
rest
of
the
question,
which
is,
is
the
high
school
a
proposed
high
school
in
the
west
part
of
the
bond
referendum?
Yes,
it
is
don't
know
what
that
timeline
would
be
right
now,
but
it's
part
of
the
bond
referendum,
and
so
if
in
the
fall,
if
the
voters
choose
to
vote
yes
for
the
bond
referendum,
then
the
high
school
for
the
western
part
will
be
in
there.
In
the
meantime,
we'll
be
working
with
the
schools
to
plan
that
the
good
thing
is
that
we
already
have
models
in
place.
B
G
There's
been
two:
yes,
there's
been
a
proposal,
we
have
awarded
a
contract
for
the
architecture
and
design
of
the
middle
schools,
which
are
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
building
up
more
we're.
Looking
at
three
stories
opposed
to
the
traditional
where
we
used
to
have
two
stories
gives
us
less
of
a
footprint
on
the
building
and
we're
able
actually
to
increase
capacity
of
those
schools.
A
G
G
So
some
of
the
days
you
know
just
depends
on
how
it
falls.
They
could
be
there
two
days
a
week
or
they
could
be
there
three
days
a
week.
That's
why,
when
we
were
talking
about
the
top
floor
of
the
career
technical
center,
we
figured
it
would
roughly
be
about
450
to
500
kids
per
day
that
would
be
able
to
fit
into
programs
there
when
you're
looking
at
how
they
would
swap
between
day,
even
odd
days.
That's
how
we'd
be
able
to
accommodate
roughly
about
a
thousand
students
to
be
able
to
participate
in
that
program.
B
H
H
H
H
H
We
want
families
that
come
into
chesterfield
for
the
schools,
because
we
don't
have
much
of
a
commercial
sector.
We
don't
have
much
of
a
business
sector,
we
are
residential,
so
we
need
those
people
to
continue
to
come
in
and
we
need
those
tax
dollars
as
far
as
tax
dollars
go.
Yes,
there
is
inflation.
However,
I
truly
believe
that
we
are
actually
doing
quite
well
as
a
county
right
now
and
not,
and
now
is
not
the
time
to
make
tax
changes
but
to
support
the
community
in
every
way
we
possibly
can.
B
I
will
say,
for
those
who
are
watching
in
for
the
teachers
that
are
watching
and
and
people
at
home,
that
you
know
we
last
year
hired
a
company
to
come
in
and
do
a
pay
study
for
public
safety
and
they
came
in.
They
did
the
study,
and
last
year
we
implemented
phase
one
of
our
public
safety
plan,
and
we
also
did
a
study
for
teachers
and
we
implemented
phase
one
for
teachers,
and
my
understanding
is
the
third
leg
of
that
study.
B
I
do
think
that
there
should
be
parity
within
the
county
government
so
that
if
we
have
someone
who
works
in
the
school
system,
who's
in
we'll
say
an
administrative
assistant
position
and
we
have
someone
who's
administrator
position
of
the
same
job,
description
and
the
county
side.
Then
they
should
be
fairly
compensated
on
both
sides.
B
B
B
B
B
I
would
tell
you
that
last
year,
when
phase
one
was
discussed
for
for
the
public
safety
side,
we
couldn't
fund
the
whole
thing.
Couldn't
do
it
had
to
do
it
in
phases
and
it
may
be
a
situation.
You
know
and
that's
why
we
couldn't
fund
all
the
teachers
last
year
either,
but
we
did
in
phases-
and
we
may
have
to
do
this
other
third
leg
in
phases
as
well,
and
that's
certainly
something
that
we're
going
to
look
at
comprehensively
as
a
board.
B
But
keep
in
mind
chester
county
is
the
fourth
most
populous
county
in
the
commonwealth
of
virginia.
The
recent
census
put
us
at
over
365,
000
and
plus,
and
I
think
the
census
is
wrong.
I
think
we're
closer
to
370.
I've
seen
the
growth
in
western
health
street.
In
the
last
10
years,
hull
street
growth
has
over
14
500
people
have
have
moved
in
the
western
part
of
mateoka
over
16
000
total
in
mateoka,
and
that
doesn't
include
some
of
the
the
apartment
complexes
and
condominiums
that
have
come
out
of
the
ground.
B
Livingston
apartments
was
being
stick
built
when,
when
the
census
was
done,
there's
300
units
and
it's
it's
fully
rented
now,
if
you've
ever
driven
north
on
288,
and
you
look
to
your
left
at
commonwealth
center
parkway,
you
see
a
bunch
of
new
condos
going
up
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
housing.
That's
in
the
pipeline
in
the
western
part
of
hull
street,
as
well
as
probably
in
other.
Certainly
we
know
in
other
parts
of
the
county,
and
so
that's
already
been
been
approved
in
the
timeline.
B
So
we
are
aware
of
all
this
and
we
are
trying
to
that's.
Why
we're
trying
to
move
forward
with
the
bond
referendum
to
be
able
to
get
the
money,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
spoke
to
it
or
not,
but
are
we're
pretty
aggressive
on
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
bond
referendum
and
how
we're
going
to
pay
it
off
and
how
quick
we're
going
to
do
this?
Don't
you
talk
to
that
real,
quick.
C
Sure
so,
typically,
when
we've
done
bond
referendum
proposals
in
the
past,
we've
looked
at,
it
kind
of
you
know:
seven
to
nine
year
time
frame
to
come
back
to
the
kind
of
debt
question
we
had
earlier.
We
looked
with
our
financial
advisors,
our
debt
repayment
schedules
over
the
next
few
years
and
we
were
actually
able
to
speed
up
the
proposed
referendum
a
seven
to
nine
year
time
frame
to
a
five
year
time
frame
all
within
this
budget
five
year
plan.
C
That's
before
the
board
now,
and
we
were
able
to
stress
to
test
that
through
our
five
year
plan-
and
it
was
only
achievable
so
we're
able
to
condense
that
schedule
over
the
five-year
time
frame.
Additionally,
just
really
quickly,
it's
actually
the
first
time
since
2004
we've
had
it
on
the
general
government
side.
So
that
has
been
the
first
time
in
well
over
18
plus
years.
D
And
if
I
could
add
to
that,
mr
durkin,
one
of
our
strategies
in
chesterfield
county,
which
is
admired
by
many,
including
bondholders
and
and
the
bond
rating
agencies,
is
we
do
level
principal
payments.
It's
a
far
more
aggressive.
Those
have
a
mortgage
as
a
home.
As
you
recall,
you
know
those
early
payments
it
seems
like
most
of
it
is
going
to
interest
littles
go
into
principle.
We
reverse
that
our
hardest
payments
are
our
first
payments
of
the
debt
service
cycle.
D
B
See
another
questions
come
in
in
the
portal.
It
says
that
20
million
in
tax
reductions
from
the
various
types
of
relief,
considering
that
the
average
homeowner
will
only
realize
that
33
tax
decrease
from
the
real
estate
tax
and
the
maximum
of
85
per
vehicle
is
giving
up
this
funding
in
the
best
interest
of
the
county.
B
B
B
We've
also
seen
an
increase
in
the
last
10
years
or
so
of
people
in
the
lower
income
brackets
in
chesterfield
county.
And
so
when
I
look
at
this,
when
I
look
at
the
the
reason
I
thought
it
was
really
important
to
do.
The
car
tax
relief
is
because
that
affects
everybody
if
you're,
what
the
callers
or
the
person
who's
submitted
is
right.
B
If
you
only
cut
the
real
estate
tax
rate
that
only
affects
people
owned
houses,
but
people
rent
how
rent
apartments
and
rent
houses,
the
car
tax
cut,
actually
affects
them,
and
so
and
and
all
of
the
other
across
the
board,
increases
and
and
keep
in
mind.
Even
with
this
and
again
we're
talking
about
being
the
fourth
largest
most
populous
county
in
the
commonwealth,
fifth
largest
jurisdiction
we
still
and
how
much
the
budget
98.
98
million
dollars.
B
F
D
D
I
think
it's
three
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand,
so
it's
actually
over
a
hundred
and
hundred
dollars,
and-
and
I
I
don't
wanna-
do
the
math
on
the
eighty
five
dollars,
but
there's
a
variety
of
ways
in
which
savings
can
be
in
two
cars:
three
car
households,
high
valued
cars,
low
value,
cars
below
1500
that
are
not
getting
a
tax
bill
and
the
vehicle
inspection
or
registration
fee
going
in
half.
So
the
85
dollars
may
be
right
for
that
particular
homeowner.
F
A
Just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
their
time
throughout
this
series
of
meetings
of,
as
mr
carroll
mentioned
earlier,
this
was
the
fifth
of
five
such
meetings
that
we've
conducted
also
just
want
to
remind
everyone.
If
you
have
a
question
that
you
didn't
submit
tonight
or
you
think
of
something
later,
please
visit
blueprint.chesterfield.gov.
A
You
can
submit
a
question
through
that
comments,
feed
through
that
website
or
simply
email
blueprint
chesterfield.gov.
But
again
we
appreciate
everybody's
participation,
including
everybody
who
tuned
in
from
home,
and
also
those
who've
been
here
in
person
over
the
last
five
meetings,
as
well
as
staff
and
local
leaders
for
helping
us
make
this
happen.
B
Dave
I
got
one
last
comment
too.
I
think
that
you
know-
and
this
is
I
think,
someone
brought
this
up-
that
you
know
usually
at
the
end
of
the
year
there
may
be
surpluses
and
if
there's
surplus
in
the
budget,
we've
been
pretty
consistent
with
this
board
that
when
the
school
comes
forward,
with
a
request
on
to
utilize
that
funding
we've
been
very
supportive
of
what
they've
needed,
and
so
we
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
B
But
then
again
you
know
if,
if
something's
moved
forward-
and
we
can
work
with
the
schools
to
to
utilize
those
surplus
funds
in
the
best
way
possible,
we're
certainly
going
to
do
that.
Try
to
honor
the
requests
as
they
come
forward.
So
I
again
I
thank
the
online
question
for
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
and
that
will
conclude
the
meeting
tonight,
look
forward
to
seeing
everybody
tomorrow
night
at
the
board
of
supervisors
meeting.